Comments on: Save the Devils, Save the World http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/08/save-the-devils-save-the-world/ Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:16:01 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Corwin7 http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/08/save-the-devils-save-the-world/#comment-279 Corwin7 Wed, 13 Feb 2008 22:31:16 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-279 Ana... I read your comment with much interest. So are you suggesting that we abandon building houses and generating electricity so that those of our species that die of exposure can comply with "mother natures" process of natural selection? If so then most likely the rest of her "children" could stop dying in droves from the unimaginable way that we, as a species, impact her "perfect" laboratory for natural selection. I must admit that I have no idea where you are or what you do for a living but I read the total lack of compassion in your comments as vaguely familliar in composition to the justification offered up in my country by greedy industrialists who fume and rail about someone with the audacity to suggest that they not make a profit in one way or other (either thru preservation of wilderness tracts or reduction of pollutants ejected into the atmosphere or water) to preserve some semblance of natures pristine (semi-pristine?) beauty. I hope you bear in mind that by your own presumptive analysis the human being would have been selected for extinction quite some time ago. Ana...
I read your comment with much interest. So are you suggesting that we abandon building houses and generating electricity so that those of our species that die of exposure can comply with "mother natures" process of natural selection? If so then most likely the rest of her "children" could stop dying in droves from the unimaginable way that we, as a species, impact her "perfect" laboratory for natural selection. I must admit that I have no idea where you are or what you do for a living but I read the total lack of compassion in your comments as vaguely familliar in composition to the justification offered up in my country by greedy industrialists who fume and rail about someone with the audacity to suggest that they not make a profit in one way or other (either thru preservation of wilderness tracts or reduction of pollutants ejected into the atmosphere or water) to preserve some semblance of natures pristine (semi-pristine?) beauty. I hope you bear in mind that by your own presumptive analysis the human being would have been selected for extinction quite some time ago.

]]> By: Ana Vlas http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/08/save-the-devils-save-the-world/#comment-261 Ana Vlas Wed, 13 Feb 2008 20:59:17 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-261 Trying to save these animals is "unnatural" in the sense that this could be a case of humans preventing "Natural Selection" from wiping out a species that could not naturally adapt enough to survive. Are we people who are rational and see the world in a "scientific" way, or have we turned our back on science and people like Darwin, in that we are trying to maintain a static and unchanging world - one that matches or "idealized" view of the world? When we try to keep an "unfit for the conditions" species like the Tasmanian Devil from becoming extinct simply because it is "part of our identity", and when we try to preserve "natural" environments by trying to control "invasive" species, we are not recognizing the fact that environments change and the species that survive the changes, or thrive best under the changed conditions, while not necessarily the "best" or "cuddliest", are the species that the mythical "Mother Nature" has determined would survive. But then after all that... these things are just "sooooo cuuute!" Trying to save these animals is "unnatural" in the sense that this could be a case of humans preventing "Natural Selection" from wiping out a species that could not naturally adapt enough to survive. Are we people who are rational and see the world in a "scientific" way, or have we turned our back on science and people like Darwin, in that we are trying to maintain a static and unchanging world – one that matches or "idealized" view of the world?

When we try to keep an "unfit for the conditions" species like the Tasmanian Devil from becoming extinct simply because it is "part of our identity", and when we try to preserve "natural" environments by trying to control "invasive" species, we are not recognizing the fact that environments change and the species that survive the changes, or thrive best under the changed conditions, while not necessarily the "best" or "cuddliest", are the species that the mythical "Mother Nature" has determined would survive.

But then after all that... these things are just "sooooo cuuute!"

]]> By: Daniel P. http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/08/save-the-devils-save-the-world/#comment-191 Daniel P. Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:26:31 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-191 I agree with James. Quarantine to save the unaffected. Saving animals is good for the planet, good for humans and I believe is a moral imperative. I agree with James. Quarantine to save the unaffected. Saving animals is good for the planet, good for humans and I believe is a moral imperative.

]]> By: James flaherty http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/08/save-the-devils-save-the-world/#comment-190 James flaherty Mon, 11 Feb 2008 03:50:09 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-190 As large a POPULATION OF UNAFFECTED ANIMALS as can be gathered should immediately be set in a quarantined area. If the rest of the unprotected animals die off ,then the tumor's genetic material when disappear with the last wild animal dies. This is kind of a heavy handed way to protect this species, but it sounds like it might be time for drastic measures, so the Tasmanian Devil doesn't become extinct. As large a POPULATION OF UNAFFECTED ANIMALS as can be gathered should immediately be set in a quarantined area. If the rest of the unprotected animals die off ,then the tumor's genetic material when disappear with the last wild animal dies. This is kind of a heavy handed way to protect this species, but it sounds like it might be time for drastic measures, so the Tasmanian Devil doesn't become extinct.

]]> By: Coaster http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/08/save-the-devils-save-the-world/#comment-189 Coaster Mon, 11 Feb 2008 03:37:21 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-189 I hope they keep us posted on the research and hopefully, means to stop the progress of this before it's too late. I hope they keep us posted on the research and hopefully, means to stop the progress of this before it's too late.

]]> By: Richard http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/08/save-the-devils-save-the-world/#comment-188 Richard Sun, 10 Feb 2008 22:25:33 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-188 Thanks for the link Shawn - sounds like you had fun. :) Here's the link to the charity itself that helps the devils: http://www.tassiedevil.com.au/ I urge people to contribute to projects like this - it's really important for the future of our planet. Do you want to be part of the generation that goes down in history as making half of Earth's species of life extinct? Thought not. Richard http://blogearth.wordpress.com/ Thanks for the link Shawn – sounds like you had fun. :) Here's the link to the charity itself that helps the devils:

http://www.tassiedevil.com.au/

I urge people to contribute to projects like this – it's really important for the future of our planet. Do you want to be part of the generation that goes down in history as making half of Earth's species of life extinct? Thought not.

Richard
http://blogearth.wordpress.com/

]]> By: deejay http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/08/save-the-devils-save-the-world/#comment-186 deejay Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:29:17 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-186 Just to clarify a geographic note in the article - Tasmania is not "south of Australia" but rather "south of mainland Australia." It's an Australian island state. Just to clarify a geographic note in the article – Tasmania is not "south of Australia" but rather "south of mainland Australia." It's an Australian island state.

]]> By: shawn http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/08/save-the-devils-save-the-world/#comment-182 shawn Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:37:06 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-182 Oops. Here's the link to the various foundations helping the Tassie Devil. http://www.markwebberchallenge.com/charities/ Cheers. Oops.

Here's the link to the various foundations helping the Tassie Devil.

http://www.markwebberchallenge.com/charities/

Cheers.

]]> By: shawn http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/08/save-the-devils-save-the-world/#comment-181 shawn Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:28:48 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-181 There is a lot to be done if they're going to save these little guys. I was very privileged recently to compete in a 6 day (650km) adventure race in Tasmania which was raising money to help the Tassie devil, as well as for the Leukemia foundation. The race is an annual event created by Mark Webber (the Formula One driver), with an incredible bunch of volunteers and staff. If you want to check out the race and see the work their doing, this is the site. http://www.markwebberchallenge.com/ If you want to donate to the cause, go to this page to see the different foundations who are working to help the Tassie Devil. By the way, my team was lucky enough to see a baby Tassie devil on the trail while we were mountain biking. A real gift! There is a lot to be done if they're going to save these little guys.

I was very privileged recently to compete in a 6 day (650km) adventure race in Tasmania which was raising money to help the Tassie devil, as well as for the Leukemia foundation.

The race is an annual event created by Mark Webber (the Formula One driver), with an incredible bunch of volunteers and staff.

If you want to check out the race and see the work their doing, this is the site.

http://www.markwebberchallenge.com/

If you want to donate to the cause, go to this page to see the different foundations who are working to help the Tassie Devil.

By the way, my team was lucky enough to see a baby Tassie devil on the trail while we were mountain biking. A real gift!

]]> By: Richard http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/08/save-the-devils-save-the-world/#comment-177 Richard Sat, 09 Feb 2008 17:57:45 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=12#comment-177 That's really sad. Action needs to be taken right now to stop these creatures becoming extinct. I had no idea that tumors could be spread like that - I'll be very interested when more research is done on this. Richard http://blogearth.wordpress.com/ That's really sad. Action needs to be taken right now to stop these creatures becoming extinct.

I had no idea that tumors could be spread like that – I'll be very interested when more research is done on this.

Richard
http://blogearth.wordpress.com/

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