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May 6, 2008

World's oldest tree points to global warming impact

Posted: 09:40 AM ET

The world’s oldest living tree has been found in Sweden, along with remnants of several other generations of it. A ripe 9,550 years old, this special spruce tree in Fulu Mountain, Dalarna, has profound implications for climate change.

The tree is single-stemmed and stands 5 meters - about 16.4 feet – tall. Researchers at Umeå University found decaying wood remnants in the soil that date back 375, 5,660, 9,000 and 9550 years, representing generations of the same genetic individual.

For thousands of years, the spruce appeared in a shrub formation called krummholz. But with warming in the last century, the tree changed its growth and became the single-stem spruce seen in this photo.

“The fact that we can see this spruce as a tree today is a consequence of recent climate warming since about 1915,” said Leif Kullman, Professor of Physical Geography at Umeå University.

Kullman and colleagues study how tree lines, or the edges of tree habitats, respond to climate change. They have shown that trees of different species have advanced into the alpine tundra by more than 650 feet during the past century, Kullman said, suggesting that there is less tundra area than there has been for 7,000 years.

“As we see it, that is the most interesting aspect of this and similar trees,” he said. “That this may also be the oldest tree in the world is more of a curiosity from a scientific point of view.”

The tree has been named Old Tjikko after Kullman’s late dog.

–Elizabeth Landau, Associate Producer, CNN.com

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Larian LeQuella   May 21st, 2008 7:11 am ET

Care to answer these questions as well?

God good to all, or just a few?

PSA 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.

JER 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.
War or Peace?

EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.
Who is the father of Joseph?

MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.
Who was at the Empty Tomb? Is it:

MAT 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

MAR 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.

JOH 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
Is Jesus equal to or lesser than?

JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one.

JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
Which first–beasts or man?

GEN 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
GEN 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

GEN 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.


Larian LeQuella   May 21st, 2008 7:12 am ET

A few more (yeah, it's making me split posts too, we must be too long winded):

The number of beasts in the ark

GEN 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.

GEN 7:8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, GEN 7:9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.
How many stalls and horsemen?

KI1 4:26 And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.

CH2 9:25 And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.
Is it folly to be wise or not?

PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

ECC 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

1 Cor.1:19: "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and wil bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."
Human vs. ghostly impregnation

ACT 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

MAT 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
The sins of the father

ISA 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

DEU 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.
The bat is not a bird

LEV 11:13 And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
LEV 11:14 And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
LEV 11:15 Every raven after his kind;
LEV 11:16 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
LEV 11:17 And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,
LEV 11:18 And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,
LEV 11:19 And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.

DEU 14:11 Of all clean birds ye shall eat.
DEU 14:12 But these are they of which ye shall not eat: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
DEU 14:13 And the glede, and the kite, and the vulture after his kind,
DEU 14:14 And every raven after his kind,
DEU 14:15 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
DEU 14:16 The little owl, and the great owl, and the swan,
DEU 14:17 And the pelican, and the gier eagle, and the cormorant,
DEU 14:18 And the stork, and the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.
Rabbits do not chew their cud

LEV 11:6 And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

"Gerah," the term which appears in the MT means (chewed) cud, and also perhaps grain, or berry (also a 20th of a sheckel, but I think that we can agree that that is irrelevant here). It does *not* mean dung, and there is a perfectly adequate Hebrew word for that, which could have been used. Furthermore, the phrase translated "chew the cud" in the KJV is more exactly "bring up the cud." Rabbits do not bring up anything; they let it go all the way through, then eat it again. The description given in Leviticus is inaccurate, and that's that. Rabbits do eat their own dung; they do not bring anything up and chew on it.
Insects do NOT have four feet

LEV 11:21 Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;
LEV 11:22 Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind.
LEV 11:23 But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you.
Snails do not melt

PSA 58:8 As a snail which melteth, let every one of them pass away: like the untimely birth of a woman, that they may not see the sun.
Fowl from waters or ground?

GEN 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
GEN 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
Odd genetic engineering

GEN 30:39 And the flocks conceived before the rods, and brought forth cattle ringstraked, speckled, and spotted.


Larian LeQuella   May 21st, 2008 7:17 am ET

I am being forced to split my posts too. 😉 And take a lot of time between them. I'll try to finish after I hit the gym.

The number of beasts in the ark

GEN 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.

GEN 7:8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, GEN 7:9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.
How many stalls and horsemen?

KI1 4:26 And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.

CH2 9:25 And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.
Is it folly to be wise or not?

PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

ECC 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

1 Cor.1:19: "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and wil bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."
Human vs. ghostly impregnation

ACT 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

MAT 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
The sins of the father

ISA 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

DEU 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.
The bat is not a bird

LEV 11:13 And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
LEV 11:14 And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
LEV 11:15 Every raven after his kind;
LEV 11:16 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
LEV 11:17 And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,
LEV 11:18 And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,
LEV 11:19 And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.

DEU 14:11 Of all clean birds ye shall eat.
DEU 14:12 But these are they of which ye shall not eat: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
DEU 14:13 And the glede, and the kite, and the vulture after his kind,
DEU 14:14 And every raven after his kind,
DEU 14:15 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
DEU 14:16 The little owl, and the great owl, and the swan,
DEU 14:17 And the pelican, and the gier eagle, and the cormorant,
DEU 14:18 And the stork, and the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.


Larian LeQuella   May 21st, 2008 7:21 am ET

Well, it's making me split posts too. 😉 I'll continue the list when I get back from the gym. It's at least a few more posts worth.


Jadat   May 21st, 2008 9:03 am ET

Well, I have quite a bit of catching up to do at work today since I spent so much time on here. Most of the scripture you mention are common misunderstandings between the ancient semetic literary style and modern English. All your references are easily explainable and verifiable. I am NOT brushing you off and I promise that I will reply to these today. Every one.

Micro-evolution and macro-evolution are not even close to the same beast. Micro-evolution is the capabiliy of genetic variations within the same species. As you say, in a laboratory you can change a litter of white rabbits into a litter of black rabbits within a given amount of generations. They are still rabbits.

Even in this case there was no information ADDED to DNA. The white rabbit already had the genetic capability to produce black rabbits but over the course several generations the dominant trait became recesive and vice versa.

Mutations that would require something EVOLVING into something all together different would require ADDING information to the DNA strand. Even mutations that have been observed consists of loosing information. Take sickle cell disease. This is caused by a mutation in the DNA that makes the blood cells sickle shaped. There is information lost in the DNA that keeps the RNA from constructing red blood cells correctly. The benefit of this is that African Americans with this disease are nearly immune to milaria. Because of the mutated blood cells the parasites have a difficult attacking and attaching to the blood. While there is this benefit this is still NOT a positive mutation NOR is it ADDING to the genetic code. Like I said, information was lost.

These people STILL have anemia. Lets pretend that there is a world wide epidemic of malaria. Those with sickle cell would survive and a MUCH HIGHER rate than those without. However, when the epidimic is over, those with malaria would still be at a genetic disability. As anyone with the disease and see if they are glad they have it.

Resistant strains of bacteria are the same way. They loose information that makes last years vacinations stop recognizing them. That's simplistic but like I said, I'm short on time today.

Micro-evolution is far different. Most of my family has chocolate brown hair or dirty blonde. My great grandfather had carrot orange hair. I still may have the capability to have orange headed kids but the probability is VERY remote. If that information is not used eventually my descendants will loose the genetic capibility to have red-headed children (unless the information is re-introduced through a spouse.) Now if I could reproduce like a rabbit, maybe 100 kids later my wife might pop a red-head out. Someone with similar genetic capabilities also has 100 kids and one is also a red head. In a laboratory situation we seperate these children, raise them and they have kids. If we continue in this way we could "force" MICRO-evolution into changing a population of brunettes into red-heads. They are still human.

Dogs, for instance... There are American Eskimos, miniature american eskimos and toy american eskimos. This was forced genetic breeding. They are still dogs. And they still had a common ancestor who was also a dog.

You mention fossil remains that "fill" a gap. Again these require looking at the information through your own paradigm (or dogma, if you prefer that word). I.e. Looking at the picture that starts with a chimp and gradualy gets taller, turns into ape-man, then eventually modern human. First this is degrading and the source of untold atrocity and bigotry. The entire title of Darwins book is "The Origin of Species through natuaral selection or the preservation of FAVORED RACES in the struggle for life" Both this mentality of a gradually evolving man and Darwins book assume that the "unfavored" races that appear more "ape-like" are less human than those that are more Aryan in appearence. If you've read the book you won't deny that.

But secondly, on this evolutionary chart there is two "kinds". The ape "kind" and the Human. Everything on there can be explained through genetic variation of pre-existing information in the DNA strand. Those that are human on that chart were drawn with assumptions that they were less intelligent. (By the way, the neanderthal had a LARGER brain compacity than we do). They took there paradigm and painted what they interpretted to be true. Large brow-ridge does not equal, hairy, dumb and primal. The aboriginese share these skeletal traits and are equally intelligent as you or I.

My point is that there is nothing in the fossil record that can not be attributed to variations with-in a kind or species. We have tiny people (Guiness record for full grown adult is 2 feet.) We have huge people. (There's a guy in Ukrain TODAY that is 8' 6") They are both humans. If someone tried to fit them in a chart millennia from now with one on one end and one on the other they would be WRONG.

The fossil record shows variation within a species. It does not show ANY transitional forms.

Oh, boy.... DANG IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So much for being brief. The Ark is a masterpiece and incredibly and perfectly designed for the task at hand. In fact it points to a master plan and engineering far beyond the period in which it was built. I LOVE THESE QUESTIONS!!!! It might take me a while, but this was actually what began my long road to salvation so I enjoy debating these things.

Unless you want me to begin with the explaination of scripture I will pick up next time with the Ark. Let me know if you want it the other way around.

I have an indepth essay due tomorrow night in class that I need to work on. I will try to type something tonight but it may be tomorrow. PLEASE don't think I'm brushing you off. I need to make a paycheck to feed the family.🙂


Larian LeQuella   May 21st, 2008 9:25 am ET

The number of beasts in the ark

GEN 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.

GEN 7:8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, GEN 7:9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.
How many stalls and horsemen?

KI1 4:26 And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.

CH2 9:25 And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.
Is it folly to be wise or not?

PRO 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

ECC 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

1 Cor.1:19: "For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and wil bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent."
Human vs. ghostly impregnation

ACT 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

MAT 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
The sins of the father

ISA 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

DEU 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.
The bat is not a bird

LEV 11:13 And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
LEV 11:14 And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
LEV 11:15 Every raven after his kind;
LEV 11:16 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
LEV 11:17 And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,
LEV 11:18 And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,
LEV 11:19 And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.

DEU 14:11 Of all clean birds ye shall eat.
DEU 14:12 But these are they of which ye shall not eat: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
DEU 14:13 And the glede, and the kite, and the vulture after his kind,
DEU 14:14 And every raven after his kind,
DEU 14:15 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
DEU 14:16 The little owl, and the great owl, and the swan,
DEU 14:17 And the pelican, and the gier eagle, and the cormorant,
DEU 14:18 And the stork, and the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.
Rabbits do not chew their cud

LEV 11:6 And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

"Gerah," the term which appears in the MT means (chewed) cud, and also perhaps grain, or berry (also a 20th of a sheckel, but I think that we can agree that that is irrelevant here). It does *not* mean dung, and there is a perfectly adequate Hebrew word for that, which could have been used. Furthermore, the phrase translated "chew the cud" in the KJV is more exactly "bring up the cud." Rabbits do not bring up anything; they let it go all the way through, then eat it again. The description given in Leviticus is inaccurate, and that's that. Rabbits do eat their own dung; they do not bring anything up and chew on it.
Insects do NOT have four feet

LEV 11:21 Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;
LEV 11:22 Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind.
LEV 11:23 But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you.
Snails do not melt

PSA 58:8 As a snail which melteth, let every one of them pass away: like the untimely birth of a woman, that they may not see the sun.


Martin   May 21st, 2008 10:17 am ET

The earth is 3000 yrs old? WOW!! Since when?
I am all about faith....I am all about historical texts....but come on...

given that rationale...the previous ice age never happened, Mount St. Helens has only erupted once, The Old Testament is a lie (since the generational information spells out several thousadn years of "begats and whatnot)

and Ah'm gonna have to say that the world is'a still'a flat'a

get REal. Lose the fear of living in the real world. God will still love you.


Da Captian   May 21st, 2008 10:52 am ET

This is a really interesting blog guys... want to thank you both for it.

I'm in no certain camp as I have questions on everything... however I felt the need to say that a "Forced Experiment" in a lab would be creating somehing out of design... like a toy dog... it doesn't happen naturally... but is by design... be it man not a higher being in this case... but makes a bad argument in my opinion for evolution...

Just saying... and I am really enjoying this... there are some pretty sharp people on this blog... which is nice to see. If you cruise the political blogs... it's hard to believe there are any intelligent people left... ha ha...


Jadat   May 21st, 2008 12:32 pm ET

3,000 years is definitely too young. Like you said. Even adding up the years in the geneologies comes up with quite a bit more than 3,000.

It was that statement that pulled me into this discussion.😛


Jadat   May 21st, 2008 12:49 pm ET

Oops! Didn't see you added more, Larian. I'm not ignoring you, I promise. Thanks, Da Captain. I'm enjoying this too!

Larian, I don't see any problems so far that I can't explain. Some are easy, others can be taken different ways, a few are explainable but still require "faith".🙂

It's hard to expect to find answers to every historical and scientific question that we may have. In the end, the Bible is not an exhaustive work of science and history. It is a road map on Godly living. In between that purpose, God does gives us enough answers to science and history where we can find faith in Him if we so choose. He does not tell us everything. (i.e. God tells us that Adam and Eve had many sons and daughters after Cain and Abel, but only tells us the name of Seth. The other kids are unimportant when it comes to having a personal relationship with God so he doesn't fill in the details there.)

That's not a cop-out. There ARE explainations for all your points. I'm just pointing out something that we both already know. Believing either of our viewpoints requires a certain amount of faith.

I'm going to stop here. I'm sure you figured out that once I get going I have a hard time shutting up! LOL.


Jadat   May 21st, 2008 2:07 pm ET

Uh-oh, We're off the main page and I REALLY had a hard time finding this article again.

If you're still out there let me know and I will reply to your questions! (well, tonight or tomorrow.)

Otherwise, I guess there's no point if I'll just be talking to myself...😦


Jadat   May 21st, 2008 2:56 pm ET

Good grief, Larian! Did you copy and past the entire contents of a website or what! There's a lot of duplicaiton there.

Every Scripture has a reason, an explanation, and a context. But for every Scripture you've pasted it would take me a paragraph or so to explain.

Like I said everything is explainable. If you truly want me to explain something I need a workable list. What you have given me would take a while to complete. I am more than willing to answer whatever you wish but would I would like the opportunity to answer everything in my own words and would rather not copy and paste. (I have a full time job, am a full time student, am a full time husband, and father of four, and have a few responsibilities at church that require my time, off-and-on, throughout the week.) Unfortunately I don't have the time to right my own book. (Actually I am working on one. LOL. I'll probably be old and grey before it's done.)

If you truly want an exhaustive work of everything that could be taken out of context, mis-understood, and/or thought of as a contradiction let me suggest a few books.

1. Difficulties And Alleged Errors And Contradictions In The Bible by R.A. Torrey (this book is 100 years old now ( 1st pub 1907) but it is very good at describing and understanding ancient mesopotamian/semetic literature and also some of the most common accusations and misunderstandings against scripture.)

2. Are There Contradictions in the Bible? by Ralph Muncaster
He actually has a few books that are pretty good and thorough.

3. Evidence that Demands a Verdict by Josh McDowell. This has quite a few of the alleged contradictions but also explains some of the more difficult passages that aren't really contradictory but are hard to understand. This is a HUGE book and very thorough.

I guarantee that all the scriptures you pasted will be dealt with in these books.

In the mean time if you have some that you want me, personnaly, to answer then feel free to give me a workable list.🙂


Jadat   May 21st, 2008 4:47 pm ET

Holy smokes! You did copy and paste a whole website! LOL.

Cheater cheater pumpkin eater.😛

What was the definition of Dogma again?

I'm sorry. I really don't care and I'm not offended. I'm sure you share the same opinions as Mr. Meritt so it really doesn't matter. If you're still around which of his statements would you like me to comment on?


Jim   June 25th, 2008 2:54 pm ET

Elizabeth, suggest you check with Elizabeth Landau, paleoclimatologist at the American Geophysical Union in Washington, D.C., regarding papers she has co-authored on evidence of global warming.

Should be interesting keeping that story clear.


Vegeta   October 12th, 2008 7:02 pm ET

ITS OVER 9000!!!!!


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