Comments on: Gates of hell/Gates of heaven http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/27/gates-of-hellgates-of-heaven/ Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:16:01 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Franko http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/27/gates-of-hellgates-of-heaven/#comment-4283 Franko Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:38:34 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=253#comment-4283 Instead of Heaven or Hell, more refined and reasonable is the Buddhist Path. Virus to Germ, to Ameoba, to Mosquito, to Tapeworm . .. .. Doing its best, the Tapeworm gets reincarnated, up the ladder of life. Google the Tapeworm, by Catherine Austin Fitts Instead of Heaven or Hell, more refined and reasonable is the Buddhist Path.

Virus to Germ, to Ameoba, to Mosquito, to Tapeworm . .. ..
Doing its best, the Tapeworm gets reincarnated, up the ladder of life.

Google the Tapeworm, by Catherine Austin Fitts

]]> By: Franko http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/27/gates-of-hellgates-of-heaven/#comment-4151 Franko Tue, 08 Jul 2008 05:30:00 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=253#comment-4151 Very skillful as an executive. Other executives, with less fair play ended in jail. He managed to stop the government breaking it up. On the edge, monopoly, in a tapeworm economy, for maximum profit. Very skillful as an executive. Other executives, with less fair play ended in jail. He managed to stop the government breaking it up. On the edge, monopoly, in a tapeworm economy, for maximum profit.

]]> By: Ashley H http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/27/gates-of-hellgates-of-heaven/#comment-4143 Ashley H Tue, 08 Jul 2008 01:45:33 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=253#comment-4143 The fact that this whole thing has sparked a religious debate is hilarious to me. I mean, Bill Gates? C'mon! Anyway, I have no choice but to give my two cents. Brian S., I'm confused as to why you want to talk people out of their faith. I mean, it's not like it matters. If we're all going to end up in the same place, what's wrong with believing in something bigger than yourself? For the most part, it makes individuals better. Wars created by religion were not really made by religion, but politics veiled as religion. That's the case most of the time, at least from my observation. Since none of the religious people on here look like political leaders, I think we're safe. I mean, I could have an entire thing about this, but it's just going to create more vile dialogue, so I won't go there. My point of view is that it takes a whole lot more faith to believe that this whole INCREDIBLY complicated world is an accident than that it was created. I mean, if you see a watch sitting by a tree, what do you assume? That someone made it and left it there, or that all the pieces randomly came together over time? Anyway, I believe that the Christian God made all of this, and those of you who say I have no basis for that can read former the athiests Lee Stobel and C.S. Lewis' books. It is ignorant in itself to say that all Christians and religious folks are ignorant. (Luke was a DOCTOR, and the Apostle Paul was a very learned Pharisee who could read and speak three languages). It is also ignorant to say that just because rape and incest are MENTIONED in the Bible means that it was condoned. That said, bravo Bill Gates. Now back to the subject people. Please?!?!? We have our own little religious war going on here. Can we give peace a chance? What am I saying? I'm contributing! The fact that this whole thing has sparked a religious debate is hilarious to me. I mean, Bill Gates? C'mon! Anyway, I have no choice but to give my two cents. Brian S., I'm confused as to why you want to talk people out of their faith. I mean, it's not like it matters. If we're all going to end up in the same place, what's wrong with believing in something bigger than yourself? For the most part, it makes individuals better. Wars created by religion were not really made by religion, but politics veiled as religion. That's the case most of the time, at least from my observation. Since none of the religious people on here look like political leaders, I think we're safe. I mean, I could have an entire thing about this, but it's just going to create more vile dialogue, so I won't go there.

My point of view is that it takes a whole lot more faith to believe that this whole INCREDIBLY complicated world is an accident than that it was created. I mean, if you see a watch sitting by a tree, what do you assume? That someone made it and left it there, or that all the pieces randomly came together over time?

Anyway, I believe that the Christian God made all of this, and those of you who say I have no basis for that can read former the athiests Lee Stobel and C.S. Lewis' books. It is ignorant in itself to say that all Christians and religious folks are ignorant. (Luke was a DOCTOR, and the Apostle Paul was a very learned Pharisee who could read and speak three languages). It is also ignorant to say that just because rape and incest are MENTIONED in the Bible means that it was condoned.

That said, bravo Bill Gates. Now back to the subject people. Please?!?!? We have our own little religious war going on here. Can we give peace a chance? What am I saying? I'm contributing!

]]> By: Franko http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/27/gates-of-hellgates-of-heaven/#comment-4121 Franko Mon, 07 Jul 2008 06:54:21 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=253#comment-4121 From Steve Gibson: security, honesty, and truth specialist Episode #151 | 03 Jul 2008 | 107 min. Phracking Phorm "the trouble I get into with him is he says something which he wants to be true because it's important to Microsoft's interests that it be true, but it's not. And most people, you know, aren't sure if it's true or not. But I am. And so I call him on it." He got well paid for selling his soul ! From Steve Gibson: security, honesty, and truth specialist
Episode #151 | 03 Jul 2008 | 107 min. Phracking Phorm

"the trouble I get into with him is he says something which he wants to be true because it's important to Microsoft's interests that it be true, but it's not. And most people, you know, aren't sure if it's true or not. But I am. And so I call him on it."

He got well paid for selling his soul !

]]> By: Franko http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/27/gates-of-hellgates-of-heaven/#comment-4087 Franko Sat, 05 Jul 2008 01:49:12 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=253#comment-4087 "Dust to Dust" ? Niccolò Machiavelli did not make peace, Left options open. Lowest rank angel, bossed by Mother Theresa, Or Chief Buffer Overflow, and Identity Theft Specialist ? But Belzebub has the secret contract, that cannot be bought out or revoked ! "Dust to Dust" ? Niccolò Machiavelli did not make peace, Left options open.
Lowest rank angel, bossed by Mother Theresa,
Or Chief Buffer Overflow, and Identity Theft Specialist ?

But Belzebub has the secret contract, that cannot be bought out or revoked !

]]> By: S Callahan http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/27/gates-of-hellgates-of-heaven/#comment-4080 S Callahan Fri, 04 Jul 2008 16:12:26 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=253#comment-4080 Matt, I appreciate your view. First, I don't claim great intellect, though i do hold two degrees from well recognized institutions. My point was initally to stress the need for Mr. Gates in all his influence and reationships with others to reach deeper into the needs of others. He has the obvious resources.... and in a sense one can only surmise he is looking to make a difference in this world. It was not my intent to have a discussion of ideology but i responsed in defense of it (in retrospect perhaps your right in saying there are other aveneues). Jus the same, I still stand firm in my view that Mr. Gates needs to go deeper because he is missing out so much for his personal joy, and for the benifit of others. Matt, I appreciate your view. First, I don't claim great intellect, though i do hold two degrees from well recognized institutions.
My point was initally to stress the need for Mr. Gates in all his influence and reationships with others to reach deeper into the needs of others. He has the obvious resources.... and in a sense one can only surmise he is looking to make a difference in this world. It was not my intent to have a discussion of ideology but i responsed in defense of it (in retrospect perhaps your right in saying there are other aveneues). Jus the same, I still stand firm in my view that Mr. Gates needs to go deeper because he is missing out so much for his personal joy, and for the benifit of others.

]]> By: Matt L. http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/27/gates-of-hellgates-of-heaven/#comment-4069 Matt L. Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:35:05 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=253#comment-4069 Point two: Mr. Brian S., regardless of the existence or non-existence of God, I think you illustrate a fundamental issue in your diatribe against religion. Ideologically driven people render large problems into overly simplistic and inaccurate generalizations which are then used as justifications for opinions and behaviors that yield poor results. Admit it or no, you, like Mr. Callahan, are clearly ideologically driven. You've taken a very limited amount of data, a great deal of opinion, and some fallacious logic, and used it to construct a religion-is-the-root-of-much(all?)-that-is-evil personal ideology. Now, you, along with Mr. Callahan, have hijacked what could be a rather interesting and rational discussion about an influential man and his relationship to the world at large. Congratulations on your mastery of tendentious readings and non-sequitor pontifications. Now, go to beliefnet.com where you don't have to hijack threads and drag them kicking and screaming to your talking points. And while you're at it, consider 2 things. First, just because educated people are less likely to believe doesn't mean that education or intellect is causally related to unbelief. If your atheism is logically sound, you shouldn't have to fallaciously make appeals to authority or the crowd. Second, you do yourself and your ideology little good when you construct elegant statements such as, "documents written by illiterate, ignorant persons." Writing by illiterates? God or no-God, something help us if this passes for intellectual discourse in our brave new world. Please, back to Mr. Gates? Point two: Mr. Brian S., regardless of the existence or non-existence of God, I think you illustrate a fundamental issue in your diatribe against religion. Ideologically driven people render large problems into overly simplistic and inaccurate generalizations which are then used as justifications for opinions and behaviors that yield poor results. Admit it or no, you, like Mr. Callahan, are clearly ideologically driven. You've taken a very limited amount of data, a great deal of opinion, and some fallacious logic, and used it to construct a religion-is-the-root-of-much(all?)-that-is-evil personal ideology. Now, you, along with Mr. Callahan, have hijacked what could be a rather interesting and rational discussion about an influential man and his relationship to the world at large. Congratulations on your mastery of tendentious readings and non-sequitor pontifications. Now, go to beliefnet.com where you don't have to hijack threads and drag them kicking and screaming to your talking points. And while you're at it, consider 2 things. First, just because educated people are less likely to believe doesn't mean that education or intellect is causally related to unbelief. If your atheism is logically sound, you shouldn't have to fallaciously make appeals to authority or the crowd. Second, you do yourself and your ideology little good when you construct elegant statements such as, "documents written by illiterate, ignorant persons." Writing by illiterates? God or no-God, something help us if this passes for intellectual discourse in our brave new world. Please, back to Mr. Gates?

]]> By: Matt L. http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/27/gates-of-hellgates-of-heaven/#comment-4068 Matt L. Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:34:03 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=253#comment-4068 Point one: Good for Mr. Gates for trying to do good. Bad for overpopulating countries with no infrastructure. Try infrastructure placement first, along with discouraging patronizing aid. Public works projects do far more for increasing population health than medical interventions and they tend to generate a desire for smaller family sizes as viable cities form. Families tend to gravitate towards smaller sizes when they don't need subsistence labor. Convincing people that family planning behaviors are worthwhile is a lot easier when they don't need hordes of hobbits to manage the farm. That's one of the reasons why the Chinese one child policy flies better in cities than in rural areas that are still barely above subsistence. Granted, sewers, roads, and aqueducts are less "sexy" than curing disease, but they've got more staying power. There's no harm in trying to do good as long as you avoid doing stupid. Or, as a wise man once said, for every complicated problem, there is a simple, elegant solution... that is absolutely wrong. Point one: Good for Mr. Gates for trying to do good. Bad for overpopulating countries with no infrastructure. Try infrastructure placement first, along with discouraging patronizing aid. Public works projects do far more for increasing population health than medical interventions and they tend to generate a desire for smaller family sizes as viable cities form. Families tend to gravitate towards smaller sizes when they don't need subsistence labor. Convincing people that family planning behaviors are worthwhile is a lot easier when they don't need hordes of hobbits to manage the farm. That's one of the reasons why the Chinese one child policy flies better in cities than in rural areas that are still barely above subsistence. Granted, sewers, roads, and aqueducts are less "sexy" than curing disease, but they've got more staying power. There's no harm in trying to do good as long as you avoid doing stupid. Or, as a wise man once said, for every complicated problem, there is a simple, elegant solution... that is absolutely wrong.

]]> By: Franko http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/27/gates-of-hellgates-of-heaven/#comment-4030 Franko Wed, 02 Jul 2008 07:05:27 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=253#comment-4030 "Tillikum and two female whales held the trainer underwater until she drowned" - "Tillikum apparently killed a man who had snuck into a marine park to swim with the animal after the park had closed" Sometimes the thrill gets killed. "Tillikum and two female whales held the trainer underwater until she drowned" – "Tillikum apparently killed a man who had snuck into a marine park to swim with the animal after the park had closed"

Sometimes the thrill gets killed.

]]> By: Franko http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/27/gates-of-hellgates-of-heaven/#comment-4027 Franko Wed, 02 Jul 2008 05:12:30 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=253#comment-4027 God has deligated authority St Petrovich; "Sorry, you are not in the database." Try Lucifer. Lucifer; "Honor to meet the cause of the buffer overflows. We compromised Heaven's Windows database, that is why you are so welcome here." Practicing safe AIDS in Africa is insufficient. Perhaps, selling all his MicroBugs stock, and backing the Linux One Laptop per Child (OLPC) ? He could clain, not sainthood, but Robin Hood status. Time in purgatory, assigned the task of fixing the buffer overflows, to recover his identity ? God has deligated authority

St Petrovich; "Sorry, you are not in the database." Try Lucifer.

Lucifer; "Honor to meet the cause of the buffer overflows. We compromised Heaven's Windows database, that is why you are so welcome here."

Practicing safe AIDS in Africa is insufficient. Perhaps, selling all his MicroBugs stock, and backing the Linux One Laptop per Child (OLPC) ? He could clain, not sainthood, but Robin Hood status. Time in purgatory, assigned the task of fixing the buffer overflows, to recover his identity ?

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