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August 21, 2008

Scientists: U.S. not prepared for severe weather, climate change

Posted: 09:30 AM ET

Heavyweights in the scientific community are not waiting until the November election.

Tornadoes are forming at a record setting pace this year. This twister touched down near Hebron, Nebraska in 2004. Photo by Bob Henson, UCAR

They are warning the next residents of the White House and Congress that the U.S. needs to just about double its budget on weather and climate change research, research they say impacts everything from health and safety to transportation and national security.

Scientists cannot fully understand or deal with the impacts of climate change without the proper political leadership, and without funding for scientific observation and computing. That was the message from the University Corporation for Atmospheric Research, the American Meteorological Society, and the Weather Coalition in a teleconference with reporters today.

In a document aimed at the next crop of political leaders, the scientists said "Science is key to understanding these impacts, but weather and climate research and operations budgets have been flat or declining for years due to the budget wars in Washington."

John Snow, co-chair of the Weather Coalition and dean of the College of Atmospheric and Geographic Sciences at the University of Oklahoma, said there may have been a lot of good intentions in Washington in recent years, "But the reality is they've been unable to deliver."

"The science budget has barely been keeping up with inflation, and in some cases has suffered actual cuts," said Snow.

The National Science Foundation got a 2% increase, not keeping up with inflation, and the weather and climate research got 0%, effectively a strong cut," he said.

The scientists are making five recommendations they say will improve the country's resilience to severe weather and climate change:

Observations: Fully fund the earth observing system from satellite and ground-based instruments.
Computing: Greatly increase computer power available for weather and climate research and predictions.
Research and Modeling: Support a research program in earth sciences to advance understanding of weather and climate and their impact on society.
Societal Relevance: Support education, training and communication efforts for the maximum benefit of society.
Leadership and Management: Implement effective leadership to ensure that these investments are done in the best interest of the nation.

The price tag? The group says lawmakers will need to add about $9 billion to the current $10 billion that is budgeted over the next five years.

Whether it is hurricanes, tornadoes, fires, floods, snow, or drought, 75% of natural disasters around the world are triggered by weather and climate. That translates to billions of dollars in weather related losses every year in the United States.

"What we have put forward in the transition document is what we think is needed to prepare the nation for climate change, to be able to continue to improve our knowledge," said Jack Fellows, vice president of the University Corporation for Atmospheric Research.

"Frankly, we think this is one of the most pressing problems facing humankind, but it just happens to be on a longer scale than a lot of problems our country faces," said Fellows.

The other five organizations that wrote the document are the American Geophysical Union, the Consortium of Universities for the Advancement of Hydrologic Science, the National Association of State Universities and Land-Grant Colleges, the Consortium for Ocean Leadership, and the Alliance for Earth Observations.

Marsha Walton, CNN Science and Technology Producer

Filed under: climate change • environment • Weather


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David   August 21st, 2008 10:12 am ET

Households worried about the high cost of keeping warm this winter will draw little comfort from the Farmers' Almanac, which predicts below-average temperatures for most of the U.S.

"Numb's the word," says the 192-year-old publication, which claims an accuracy rate of 80 to 85 percent for its forecasts that are prepared two years in advance.

The almanac's 2009 edition, which goes on sale Tuesday, says at least two-thirds of the country can expect colder than average temperatures, with only the Far West and Southeast in line for near-normal readings.

"This is going to be catastrophic for millions of people," said almanac editor Peter Geiger, noting that the frigid forecast combined with high prices for heating fuel is sure to compound problems households will face in keeping warm.

The almanac predicts above-normal snowfall for the Great Lakes and Midwest, especially during January and February, and above-normal precipitation for the Southwest in December and for the Southeast in January and February. The Northeast and Mid-Atlantic regions should be getting an unusually wet or snowy February, the almanac said.

http://news.mainetoday.com/updates/031815.html


Franko   August 21st, 2008 10:49 am ET

Coming Ice Age, to plan for, or die by.
CO2 not keeping US warm,
Arctic Vulcanoes, only local ice melt.
Mother Gaia helps those, who help themselves.


don   August 21st, 2008 11:19 am ET

No amount of money, thrown at the notion that man can control the earth's climate, will have any affect upon the fact that the earth cools, warms and cools again in a cyclic, predictable fashion. We're into the first stages of cooling – which began in the late 90's, and will last for another 15 years – before we start warming up again. Our tax money would be best spent to support the growth of America, not break it down.


Ronnie VA   August 21st, 2008 11:31 am ET

Hmmm, looks like a bunch of scientists and colleges looking for more grant money.

What a suprise.

In the past 100 years the global temp is up less than 2 degrees F.

Big deal.

Only God knows what it will be in the next 100, not a bunch of scientists with their hands out.


David   August 21st, 2008 11:38 am ET

Climate change is all about fear mongering and money, that's it!


CL OT   August 21st, 2008 11:50 am ET

Now they need more money to create lies! They are wasting our money with this fake research. If you do just a little internet research on man made global warming you will find that everything you are hearing about co2 is BS.

Not my Tax Dollars!


Mark   August 21st, 2008 11:51 am ET

Same old song and dance – we're doomed, doomed, DOOMED if we don't start throwing enormous amounts of money at the problem.

My tolerance for Al Gore and his brethren is starting to wear a little thin – –


Franko   August 21st, 2008 11:57 am ET

There is more here than just the GuiltPromotion. Apply, "man know thyself" to Climate. From understanding, come possibilities of future survival.


Kent Seamars   August 21st, 2008 12:14 pm ET

Research funding is at a sufficient level. $10B for research is just plain dumb. We know what is happening and we know the solutions. Spend the money on the solutions, not more research.


Eric   August 21st, 2008 12:37 pm ET

I'm in my late 30s and I can tell by the sun burns I get in one or two hours while using spf 60 sunscreen are much more severe than when I used to play at the pool all day with no sun screen as a kid. We are acting like a virus and the Earth will eventually reject us if we keep it up.


Kevyn   August 21st, 2008 1:09 pm ET

We're all in trouble because of people like commenter David who says "Climate change is all about fear mongering and money, that’s it!" They don't believe in global warming, despite obvious evidence to support the fact that Earth is warming because we've been pumping loads of CO2 into the atmosphere for the last 150 years. Wake up and do something, people!


James H   August 21st, 2008 1:51 pm ET

What kind of racketeering protection scheme is this? Give us more money for our "modeling" or perish at the hands of mother nature. What benefit do we really get from more models? More money will not help models create better predictions. That's not what models are useful for. Let's take away the rest of their funding instead, since it appears that it is not useful. There are many better ways to use this money for real benefit today.


Vick   August 21st, 2008 1:52 pm ET

Who wins from the global warming (climate change) hoax?

I do not believe the science supports any prediction of future catastrophe. Since no one is paying me, I am motivated by my opinion of the science. So who wins by exaggerating the effects of warming?

* Climatologists who scare people into supporting more government research funding into their chosen field. Billions have been poured into research in the last 20 years in the US alone. Scientists get to be interviewed on TV and fly around the world to speak at conferences. It is easier for them to get published.

* Politicians win because people clamor for government to solve the problem and government gets more powerful.

* Business wins with the carbon trading plan. This appears to be the reason business leaders have embraced global warming, they finally see the future profits waiting for them. Al Gore's company stands to make plenty of money in carbon trading profits if his plan is implemented.

Thanks to Ron C


Larryp   August 21st, 2008 2:02 pm ET

Eric, it's called getting OLD – your skin becomes more sensitive. Course they want more money – gotta get bigger bonuses for doing the jobs they are already paid to do. Heck, I want more money too, my lawn grows faster so I have to cut it more often and it costs more to put gas in it. Gimme a break! I have to learn how to live on what I earn, they can too!


Larryp   August 21st, 2008 2:12 pm ET

Of the 5 recommendations, only 2 require money from the organizations listed – observation and computing. The others, especially leadership, whew, does it cost extra money to be an effective leader? Boy, have I been leading a sheltered life - Revelance – so now we have to bribe students to study earth science? Reseach – last I checked, that was part of the earth science studies in college. Again – gimme a break


Doug   August 21st, 2008 2:20 pm ET

2008 is the coldest year in the last five years and the global temperature hasn't gone up since 1998.

The ocean's temperature has actually cooled slightly over the last ten years.

But keep up the scare tactics, Big Media- no wonder journalists are considered less reputable than lawyers now!


John   August 21st, 2008 2:22 pm ET

Climate change also predicts more extreme weather. The global warming referrs to average global temperature. Which means in local areas the temperature may be colder than average to compensate for warmer than average somewhere else. In LA, I have observed a shifting of seasons. When I was a kid we always had "June Gloom" but the last couple years that became "July Gloom." This year we didn't get a string of cloudy days until August. -Then again.
How can you trust those BIG LIBERAL guys at NASA? After all, they faked the moon landings! 🙂


Mike   August 21st, 2008 3:00 pm ET

The idea that spending this money is going to make society more resilient to climate change is laughable. Understanding the climate is just the first baby step to making society more resilient. We knew years befor Katrina and Rita that the Gulf Coast was at risk and nothing significant was done – the fact is we can't do much about it. John Snow, shame on your "they've been unable to deliver," it is you and your cronies that haven't been able to deliver despite tremendous funding, both domestic and international, for climate research over the past 20 years. All you have is models that can't predict today's climate, let alone future climate, equivocal to meaningless temperature data, and a public confused by irrational, scare-mongering drivel.


John Stahura   August 21st, 2008 3:04 pm ET

Just a request....I would like to purchase and show a DVD of "Scorched Earth" narrated by Miles O'Brien. This 45 minute presentation is succinct and excellent. Will it be rebroadcast anytime soon? Thanks. John


Mike   August 21st, 2008 3:10 pm ET

Other than the earth observation satellites which I think is a very good idea to help people get out of the way of storms, the rest is a complete waste of money. We have real problems to solve the biggest of which is access to energy. No, I am not talking about drilling for oil, I am talking about harnessing everything we can think of including oil, coal, nuclear, wind, solar, and doing so while considering environmental impact. Access to energy is the problem of the 21st century, every other problem is trivial in comparison. Put that $9 billion into research into some program that has a tangible, practical goal in mind, don't flush it down the drain on computer models. The modelers have had their chance, it's time for the engineers now.


Nancy   August 21st, 2008 3:17 pm ET

You just don't get it do you. Thirty years ago the media tried pulling this same stunt but it was global cooling at the time. Global warming may be happening but it is part of a natural cycle. If you don't believe me just wait a few years. I'm tired of the panic and the hype. the earth has been through a lot worse than what were seeing and somehow survived without us. I have a funny feeling that it will be around a long time and perhaps even enjoy another bout of global cooling.
😉


Franko   August 21st, 2008 3:23 pm ET

Luboš Motl: "I would answer that it is a big scale organized crime."
6.2 Billion, per year, into Climate. Add Carbon taxes, and other hurdles.
The Ice Age, we will live it. Happy Ice Bears are US.

"


Shine   August 21st, 2008 3:42 pm ET

This article contains so many false assertions and half-truths that it is mind boggling that even a muddle headed politician SHOULD be able to see through it. But, then again ...


don   August 21st, 2008 4:01 pm ET

After suffering these blistering summer temperatures in the high 70s and low 80s in Minnesota, I'm looking forward to our new ice age.


Franko   August 21st, 2008 4:24 pm ET

Per legendary Freeman Dyson, makes no sense to talk of average global surface temperature. Very few, stations, land use changes, aggressively adjusted. Tropospheric cooling, measured by satellites, and Ocean level changes, give an insight to the averaged .


james andrews   August 21st, 2008 4:40 pm ET

Send me more money and I will keep this myth going to get more. Just like any other group feeding at the public trough


John   August 21st, 2008 5:30 pm ET

You people are amazing. Totally ignorant. It's as if 9 Billion Dollars is alot of money. NOAA predicted Katrina and Rita. They begged the Fed to do something about it. Scientists have been screaming about climate change for 30 years. You say the scientists are wasting your money! The Bush administration is editing the reports. There has been an active DISINFORMATION campagn on the part of big business. NASA has reported pieces of ice falling off the Antarctic shelf the size of states! There was an algae bloom in China 3 weeks ago. The Gulf of Mexico coral reefs are dying! The ocean temperature is rising. "Doug" who says the average global temperature has been cooling since 1998 is just wrong! It's NOT. You are just wrong.


Franko   August 21st, 2008 5:47 pm ET

Simple prbability result from Niche Modeling

"When you calculate the global surface temperatures from July to July 1979-2008, the earth has warmed the grand amount of 0.295 degrees C."
"The effect of 30 years of global warming has been no greater than the change commonly seen in a single year."

"Harsh winters force Mongolian horsemen to abandon nomadic life"
Cooldest, in Mongolia, since the Age of Vikings ? CO2 caused ?


Mike   August 21st, 2008 7:26 pm ET

No, John. The earth's temperature has indeed been stable since 1998 and has perhaps been declining a bit. There is no doubt that CO2 levels have increased since the industrial revolution, what else would you expect? But there is no, repeat, no correlation to temperature. Yes, we have been consuming fossil fuels at a torrid pace, but climate change should not be the issue that drives policy. That doesn't mean we don't have problems, but there are bigger and more immediate ones out there: access to energy from any and all sources, access to clean freshwater, loss of biodiversity, loss of habitat, declining fisheries to name a few. None of these has anything to do with climate change, they have to do with overpopulation and overconsumption.


Gerry   August 21st, 2008 7:42 pm ET

While I fully support global warming it seems we just can't make it happen fast enough.
Just imagine the days of yore when once again the far flung north has many nice summer days for us.


Al Palmer   August 21st, 2008 10:25 pm ET

These "scientists?" want more tax dollars to prop up their failing theory. The religious zealotry that is now global warming has exceeded the threat of Islamofascism.


Franko   August 22nd, 2008 12:35 am ET

Waiting, for the North West Passage to be navigable, for hundreds of years.
Melt the Ice, stoke the fire in the undersea Vulcanoes ? Viking magic trick ?
Real engineers, the Vikings had, or just scientists, starving for more modeling ?

People are too fat and many, science to solve the problem:
Doctor Doom (Dr. Eric R. Pianka): "We're no better than bacteria!"
Wants to kill 90% by Ebola. Romans decimated only 10% ?
But what if Dr Eric Doom Pianka's funding is cut by 90% ?

Stumbling from Doom to Doom, Crysis to Crysis, so far, Survivors are US.
Mad Climatologists, Doom Doctors, GuiltRafters, just want more tax dollars.


William   August 22nd, 2008 1:24 am ET

How exactly are these guys any different from caribbean witch doctors?

Give us more money or bad things WILL happen. Guaranteed.

Did anyone catch that "global warming" has now metamorphosed into "climate change"? Global temps as measured by satellite show no increase in the last ten years, but CO2 has risen steadily. With that correlation gone the only thing left is severe weather. Only problem is that the big name hurricanes are not happening.

Ever occur to anyone that "extreme" weather could include extremely good weather, that is still weather outside norms? I guess that would not scare anyone into doubling research funding.

The reason the gov't spends so much money on weather prediction is because the US Air Force needs the weather 36 hours in advance for bombing missions. Whatever happens in 100 years is of little interest.


David   August 22nd, 2008 9:13 am ET

Kevyn,
Where is your proof (Al Gore?), there is a half million dollar reward if you can prove global warming caused by humans. They could make a bunch of money for themselves, just bring the proof!!
The earth has naturally warmed and cooled through history, check it out. Has far as doing something I live very green, very low energy use and have for 30 years. My home is very energy efficient so aren't my cars which I don't drive much. I company is very green using low energy use machine we recycle everything the local town will take. We even are designing a new instrument for a top battery researcher to create new better batteries. But I still believe the human caused Global Warming is a huge lie!!!
Kevyn how much CO2 is put into the air by volcano's, rotting plants, and other natural events and how fast does the earth correct itself after they stop erupting? Plants grow quite well in higher CO2 amounts and use less water, think of that, more food! Educate yourself a little more and you find no doom and gloom other then your own mind.


Jeanne   August 22nd, 2008 9:21 am ET

I believe that climate change is real and that it–actually not the economy–is the single most pressing issue that the next president will need to address. Yes, the economy is terrible and people are losing houses, etc. But if we pass tipping points on climate change so that the planet cannot recover, really your or my personal finances won't matter, will it? Jobs can be created by research in alternative energy. This is one topic that I'd gladly donate tax dollar towards. Climate change and environmental degradation involves more than if this winter is supposed to be colder than last year; what about "dead" spots in oceans (including the Gulf of Mexico where the Mississippi enters, the Chesapeake, and other costal regions of the US), and species loss? With the ostrich attitudes of many of the writers in this stream, it seems that the fates of your children and grandchildren have been sealed. Stupid America not to be a leader in solving this crisis!


Ken in Dallas   August 22nd, 2008 10:55 am ET

I know most of you people are old, and change is scary, so it's understandable that you hat the idea. That being said, to deny the facts of this matter is an act of naked cowardice.

Even if it's explained to you in words of one syllable, most of you are simply too frightened of change to even consider the possibility, much less accept change as fact when it comes. Change is upon us. It is a fact, whether we like it or not. We have done things in the world unprecedented in human history, and we know the things we do have consequences, so we should expect that doing the unprecedented has unprecedented consequences, rather than assume that, for the first time in human existence, our actions have no consequences at all.

The idea that the same science that now foretells disaster is what transformed our lives with technology should give us pause. We now use more power than humanity has ever wielded before as a direct consequence of scientific study. To dismiss the conclusions of science because they make us feel afraid is cowardly and shameful.

If you want not to worry that change has come into the world because you're afraid of all your plans coming to naught, well, maybe that's your speed. Don't worry, you won't pay the price of your folly, the younger generation will.

Would you like to guess what I might say about parents who would throw their offspring under the bus? Maybe not.


mark   August 22nd, 2008 10:58 am ET

You guys are really great – all of you! These forums are where public opinion is formed. You've convinced me that throwing money at scientists will never save us from global warming. Its like throwing money at schools to make our kids smarter...totally ineffectual! Stifling the hot air from Al Gore – that might be the place to start.


David   August 22nd, 2008 11:03 am ET

Ken.. we shouldn't be afraid of a warmer earth.. a warmer earth produces more.. some of the best times in the history of earth were warm periods.. i honestly hope we are headed towards warmer times.. i am now afraid of a colder period.. the sun has failed to start cycle 24 so far, remember that hot item in the sky that gives us light?
Pacific Decadal Oscillation "PDO" just turned to a negative phase, which in turns cooler temps, and god help us if the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation "AMO" would turn negative in this same period. We might even find out.. in a few decades.. man.. thank god for global warming, we sure would have froze without it!


Franko   August 22nd, 2008 11:09 am ET

Michael Crichton: "Environmental organizations are formenting false fears in order to promote agendas and raise money."

Bad drives out the good. Money wasted, Progress denied. Ferenc Miskolczi was forced to resign, by NASA, after he developed a
more accurate climate theory. Timothy Ball, the Canadian climate expert, received death threaths. The list is long.

More money for the Climate Priesthood, to molest the climate ?


Rednecks United Ignorant Neanderthals (RUIN)   August 22nd, 2008 11:27 am ET

"In the past 100 years the global temp is up less than 2 degrees F.

Big deal.

Only God knows what it will be in the next 100, not a bunch of scientists with their hands out."

that is why god tells humans to go eff themselves....you are not worthy of his/her attention, after destroying mother earth, and being ignorant redneck waste of flesh morons......next you will blame iraq or iran or liberals or environmentalists or say it is all in everybody's heads....in virginia the great dismal swamp is ON FIRE...RIGHT NOW!!!!!
get your head out of your own A R S E


Janet   August 22nd, 2008 11:37 am ET

"Sniff, Sniff, Sniff!" I smell some intellects who are trying to fool us into giving up our hard earned money, so they can continue their "twilight-zone" research! GET A REAL JOB and learn the ethics of working for a living! You have absolutely NO COMMON SENSE whatsoever! Life is a cycle--what goes around, will eventually come around, again and again and again.


Wisdom   August 22nd, 2008 11:38 am ET

Ken in Dallas:

My old cowardice self has lived through a lot.

1950s We are all going to die of nuclear holocaust
1960s The world population will run out of food by 1990
1970s Global cooling will destroy the earth... (fixed that one eh)
1980s AIDS will destroy mankind
1990s The Ozone layer has a hole... we will all have cancer in 20 years

All of the above were states by "scientists"... and they all wanted money. The earth changes... people talk about it but live awhile and you will see... the 20s and 30s had twice the hurricans we have now... this scare stuff is nothing new.


Rock   August 22nd, 2008 12:02 pm ET

Dear Ken,

Yes, science has provided us with much, but we're not talking about practical application of science. We're talking about theoretical scientists that have probably never left the university. They just want someone to continue funding their playland. Anytime a scientist says that the debate is closed, you need to worry. Theories are NEVER closed to debate. That's why they're called theories.

P.S. I know it's hot in Dallas. Try El Paso. It's hot, but it's a dry heat.


S Callahan   August 22nd, 2008 12:20 pm ET

The weather conditions to me are signs of what God's word has spoken for generations to all who would hear...all that we have including sun, rain, wind, warm, cold, etc. are used through God to move man. God fortold that we would see an increase of 'these things' (hurricans, drought,earthquakes, etc) when our judgement is near. People can argue that this has been going on for years, and they would be correct, but I think, based on God's word, that what we will be seeing i the future will be much greater than what man has ever experienced. In the last few years we have wittnessed this by the words of local authorties expressing they have never seen conditions as they are. For the scientists, I say give them their grants because the more they seek the more they learn that all this is in God's control for That Great Day.


Franko   August 22nd, 2008 1:12 pm ET

Why hard to blow up, stumble past the tippy temperature point ?

Get away from equilibrium, apply heat, temperature up linearly with energy.
Mother Gaia, has another rule, Convection and Radiation, not linear.
Violent corrections, hurricanes, tornadoes, temperature to the fourth power.

Secret laws, hidden by the climate science priesthood.


NoSoop4U   August 22nd, 2008 1:23 pm ET

It is undeniable that our lifestyles have become unsustainable. For all you idiots, that means it cannot continue forever like this. Petroleum will eventually become too expensive to use as an energy source, kind of like how we don't wire our homes with gold even though it is a superior conductor.

It amazes me how hateful people can be towards a movement that not only promotes making this planet a better place for our children, but how we can save money doing things in a better, wiser way. I love how some think God will save them after they destroy the Earth. After all it only takes a hail Mary or two to get out of that one. The age old debate of God vs Science. To believe or to THINK! The truly ignorant keep making excuses for themselves in order to continue being wasteful slobs.


Andy   August 22nd, 2008 2:21 pm ET

Amazing that so many people don't believe that what 6 billion humans are doing on the planet's surface has an affect. Even more amazing that people claim "scientists" are looking for a handout. These same scientists study glaciers, frogs, ocean currents and carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, none of which pay scientists for studying them. So where do the scientists get the crazy idea to study such things, if everyone is always only ever motivated by money?

Sure, the earth has cyclical heating and cooling periods, but the sun does not, and it is getting increasingly more powerful. And during any of those historic cycles, there were not 6 billion polluting, consuming, deforesting humans running around the planet. But go ahead, call it all a lie, and when Manhattan goes underwater in 20 years, I'll come back here and say, "see?"


Anna   August 22nd, 2008 3:08 pm ET

It is apparent that we need "funding" just to educate the general public on the seriousness of this topic.


Anthony   August 22nd, 2008 4:28 pm ET

The moment you toss out the facts of science, in interject God's saving grace to solve the problem - you've lost all credibility. Global warming exists, as shown by scientists. Its convenient to me how a majority don't believe in the globe's warming, but rely on scientific research to find the cure for your disease.
My father doesn't believe in global warming, and feels that Al Gore is a clown, touting that its a cycle. Even if global warming is a bunch of BS, and humans have NO impact, and this is just a cycle - why risk it, and what's so bad about conserving what we have? God its like talking to a bunch of pre-schoolers........"It's not my fault!" Sorry in this case it is, and God won't save you because the first freaking book of the Bible talks about being the protectors of his gift to us - i.e. the planet. Ironic how that's overlooked. LOGIC, hopefully science will find a way to inject it into your diet.


Wisdom   August 22nd, 2008 4:59 pm ET

noSoop4u
Andy
Anna

Here are some other scientists view.... 31,000 have signed to date....

We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind.

There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.

Check it out.... http://www.oism.org/pproject/


Wisdom   August 22nd, 2008 5:00 pm ET

http://www.oism.org/pproject/

31,000 scientists don't agree...


S Callahan   August 22nd, 2008 5:14 pm ET

Thanks Soap, but I do think quite a bit ,,even graduated from one of the finest liberal arts colleges around but that is irrelevant to your arrogant attacks. I accept that 'we' have been irresponsilbe on this planet ; do support avenues to a better our enviroment and energy use. Perhaps you haven't seen my previous comments. I don't do Hali Mary's , Nor do I think God will save man right now because 'man' has been truly selfish and belligeent towards him. I only speak of the true Authority (God's word) and as the next few years go on I promise I won't say I told you so but will hope by then you will reconsider your approach towards others. Had man lived in the standards of moderation as God directed we wouldn't have to have this discussion right now.


Franko   August 22nd, 2008 10:57 pm ET

I pray the Hail Gaia, Protect me from the Greenies, Commies in new colors.
I do not want to be Ebola Virused, to make Earth a sustainable Paradise.

Stalin, Hitler, PolPot, killed a lot, Greenies also want a perfect perfection.
Ebola dissolved humanity, sustainable slime, by the Greenie Gardeners.

Humans have evolved from hunter gatheres. Ran out of prey, farmed, domesticated, mechanized. Cannot all go back to Amazon uncontacted tribes.

One way, no stopping or turning back, put the Greenies in white straight jackets. Next star system, here we come, per Gaia invitation.


Raymond   August 23rd, 2008 12:09 am ET

Ms Walton should have done a better job in editing and publishing this information in a proper manner.

This turned out to be a different kind of discussion going in the different direction of funding research rather than worrying about our inability to accurately predict weather well in advance.

I believe the original super computers were created to help in predicting the weather, among other things as nuclear computations and other stuff.

How many of you ever lived and traveled all over the world (World means not just US, Canada and Mexico, there are several hundred countries all over the world, the real world) ?

I have seen dramatic changes in North West where it used to rain continuously 8 months in a year and Washington state had to declare drought once.

There are farmers all over the world whose lives depend upon the weather conditions and the health of agriculture defines the health of their countries.


Anna   August 23rd, 2008 9:23 am ET

This is a serious issue and we need to address NOW! There is a lot of energy expressing around this topic with lack of clarity. This is about funding not only for the research, but the cause and effects that we currently face.


Franko   August 23rd, 2008 9:59 am ET

Read: "Gore's guru, Dr. Roger Revelle, disagreed with alarmism"
ManBearPig credibility questioned, false prophet, poisioning young minds.

"21st-century-knowledge-monopolies-and-research-cartels"
New religion, Your tax dollars to molest truth, science prostituted ?

Smart to earn money, Dumb to understand science, but give us
dollars to deceive you, for your own good. Often the agenda ?
Salvation, buy DoGood Geenie Credits, dancing to sustainable Paradise


Tim   August 24th, 2008 9:11 pm ET

""""need to add about $9 billion to the current $10 billion""""""

Save OUR money ! The weather will change, no matter how much you spend of OUR tax money ! When it rains you get wet ! When it snows your going to get cold ! Tonights weather DARK, continuous DARK until early morning when the weather changes to LIGHT !

There, I saved us billions of tax dollars.....send .10% to me and I'll be happy !


Franko   August 25th, 2008 11:17 pm ET

"essentially, climate models have no predictive value, peer reviewed science"

David R.B. Stockwell
"climate models simulate drought area worse than the mean"

Make money by betting against ?
Predicted Ice Age, Warmed. Predicted runaway warm to Paradise. Cooling.

Money in your pocket, is the best bet ?


fred   August 26th, 2008 8:24 pm ET

We cannot afford this – we have to find some other brown people to bomb and that costs a lot of money.


Franko   August 28th, 2008 2:31 am ET

Insight of Ken in Dallas needs to be extended upon:

Young have fresh concepts, Not to be Al Gored, faked into submission.
Show Kindergarden and up, all kinds of real pictures and real data.
Ask, without suggeston, what do you see in the future.
"Kids Say the Darndest Things" , Art Linkletter style.

CNN, invite Kindergarten Bloggers, the missing insight feature.


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Gkhan   September 7th, 2012 11:48 am ET

bahut sahi...Neeta ji ekdam sahi baat kahi... aur ekdam sahi mudda uthaya... aakjaal is net ke chakkar mei to pata nahi sabhi ko kya ho gaya hai...n specially females ka to aise logon se yunhi pala padta rahta hai...


Roderick Bohne   April 29th, 2013 10:19 am ET

Climate change is a significant and lasting change in the statistical distribution of weather patterns over periods ranging from decades to millions of years. It may be a change in average weather conditions, or in the distribution of weather around the average conditions (i.e., more or fewer extreme weather events). Climate change is caused by factors that include oceanic processes (such as oceanic circulation), biotic processes, variations in solar radiation received by Earth, plate tectonics and volcanic eruptions, and human-induced alterations of the natural world.`

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