Speaking as a member of psychotic loners union, I must protest. Aren’t “end of the world” announcements supposed to be our job?

Ray in Texas

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.
T. S. Eliot, The Hollow Men
British (US-born) critic, dramatist & poet (1888 - 1965)

I am not a physicist myself, though I consider myself well-informed as a lay-physicist. I teach in the public high school of my hometown and try to incorporate certain principles and ideas of Newtonian and the New Physics into my English and Social Studies curricula whenever appropriate to bridge the disciplines so they students will make larger connections. I am not sure how to respond to those Chicken-Littles out there with little or no understanding of particle physics. When Galileo argued that the universe was not perfect, people shut him down because otherwise the heavens would crumble. When Einstein argued that energy and matter were the same thing, the Victorian world could not get its head around it. When the New Physics crowd went beyond Einstein, even Einstein could not get his head around it. Then there were baseless fears that the testing of the first atomic bomb would lead to a chain reaction of surrounding atoms being destroyed leading to the annihilation of the planet at least! Well, as much as some people might hope that 1+1 does not equal 2, the fact is that 1+1 = 2. If the black holes that will conceivably be produced will have a life of only fractions of a second and a dimension absurdly small, then nothing of any great moment is going to happen like it would in a movie. Sorry. I am anxious to say Hi to Higgs!

Being killed by a Black Hole would be so very cool. Not like the old boring method.

9/11 was an inside job.

People should watch less TV.

There is no risk. Particle collisions this powerful and more have happened countless times already on earth, the moon and other planets from cosmic rays, and nothing like this has happened.

people do not worry nothing will happen the worst that could happen is that more questions and more theories will come that is all plain and simple

What if it opens a portal to hell?

If you are so sure, then answer this 54321Question!

Life on Earth as we know it is about 5 billion years old, while actual civilization is only about 4 thousand years old as in The Incas, The ancient Egyptians, the civilization in Mesopotamia and others. But real civilization is only about 3 hundred years old including Leonardo Da Vinci, Mozart and The Industrial Revolution. Now let us look at the last “2-Ten� years and compare that to the past 300 hundred years. The things that we have and invented in the past twenty years make everything before that look primitive. This includes computers, The Hubble telescope, DNA, cloning and many others.

Do you notice a pattern? Do you notice the laser exponential progress of technology?
Here is a summary:

5 Billion : Age of Life on Earth
4 Thousand : Civilization
3 Hundred : Real Civilization
2 Ten :Technology Explosion

Do you now notice the sequence? We can not deny facts. It took 5 billion years to get to civilization, but then it only took 4 thousand years to jump to real civilization. Later it only took 300 hundred years to leap into the explosion of technology which occurred in the last “2-Ten� years.

It is obvious that the next line is “1-One�.

If the previous “2-Ten� years were an explosion of technology that dwarfed the technology of the past 300 hundred years, then what is the technology that is going to be in the “NOW� that is going to make cloning, the Hubble telescope and the current computer power not just look mediocre but “PRIMITIVE�.

Is it The Large Hardon Collider?

If so, then what is the next line in the above logic?

Sam Bandak
Santa Clara, CA.
54321Answer@comcast.net

Thanks Sam. And it’s the Large Hadron Collider. I’m surprised that other word got through Spellcheck.

If this thing follows the naysayer’s idea, then the mega-black holes in space would have already eaten the entire known universe. Yet, the possibility of an extremely tiny, momentary appearance of something that looks like or acts like a black hole will suddenly expand “greater than thee” and swallow everything up?

Logic 101 wasn’t an elective when I went to college.

what if they accidentaly the whole thing?

Many of the people who are panicking about the experiment are the same people who would sign a petition to ban hydrogen dioxide (because it can and has caused death).

These people working on this experiment are experts and well educated in their field… not someone who’s assembling it out of Legos.

^ What if it gives us some actual answers? Cool stuff!

I am not particularly worried, however we are dealing with forces we do not yet fully understand (which is why we do the experiments) so I’m not convinced any of the “experts” know exactly what is going to happen. If they could say exactly what the outcome would be, they wouldn’t have spend billions on the experiment. I think it is healthy to be a little worried.

Well, if they fire it up, we’ll know for certain.

Will it happen…….probably not. Can it happen……….absolutely. OK, the statistical chance of this are EXTREMELY slim but since we don’t know everything there is about black holes AND we know it’s one of the (if not the) most powerful force in the universe then we can’t say to 100% probability that it won’t happen. These things are tiny but it’s mysterious nature and insane gravitational pull COULD swallow the universe into itself. We as humans DO NOT know the true power of these things. That being said, I think that this experiment will reap many benefits with just the sheer fact of knowing more about the universe, therefore I’m all for it. I think this paranoia is completely unfounded and ridiculous.

@ Mike

We would probably have a real life version of Hellgate London or Doom. Although Doom was on Mars if I remeber right.

Just equip your BFG9000 and go…

Honestly though, I don’t see anything happening. Just like most issues, there are those that take it way to far. I am sure we will see much more of this as 12-21-12 comes closer too. This one will be worse than Y2K.

I’m kind of hoping it opens up a wormhole to a parallel universe. A universe in which the people protesting this experiment don’t exist and I am very very rich and surrounded by half naked women.

To Mike: If it does indeed open up a portal to Hell, I’ve played Doom. I’ll be ready.

No matter what spin you put on it. When an experiment puts the whole world and everyone in it in danger I think we need to rethink a bit. A handful of mad scientists don’t have the right to take this big a risk with so much at stake. They should be stopped and if they must try USE A COMPUTER!

A portal to Hell? Really, Mike? If that happened, then that would settle one debate: whether or not God exists. After all, if the Judeo-Christian Hell was proven, then there likely is a Heaven and therefore God. I really doubt that will happen though.

The Chicken-Littles of the world don’t want any innovation to happen ever again. Innovation involves risk. There are far too many sissies out there that don’t want to take a chance of there being any change in their world whatsoever. Tough. The world deems you of no concern and rightly so.

Our society as a whole is bored. Just let things be. I dont care how good of a chance it is we survive, stop searching for things. Stop trying to be God!

We don’t fear the known we fear the unknown. When dynamite was invented it’s creator didn’t know it’s inherint instability leading to tragedy. When German scientists experimented with radiation in WWII they didn’t understand it’s lethal effects to the human body, leading to tragedy. In both cases the risk was containted to the immediate area. In this case, the risk is to the planet. In some ways it’s a metaphor for death itself. The great unknown that will eventually engulf us all.

I am totally against this “project” or “game” as they call it. God does tell us in His Living Word that man shall destroy himself. And it is so. We have been doing from the start in a very slow, methodical, hard way. However, the closer we get to the final day, the more rapid it shall be. The bible teaches us this, as well. So may prayer is that WHATEVER happens, that my loved ones, enemies, neighbors and myself are prepared to me our MAKER.
I know that I am not worthy, but Dear God, please take me in Thy bosom when you come. Glory to God! Amen!

to allof those idiots that think that you guys r so stupid and pathetic

The man who throws the switch should in all good conscience give a loud maniacal evil laugh when he does it. The end of the world should be preceded with a hearty “BWA HA HA HAAAA”. It is the only right thing to do. A thin mustache and goatee would be a plus as well.

Tonight’s fire up is really just a “make sure it’s running” test. As far as I’ve heard it told, there’s nothing that is even capable of blowing us up going on tonight.

Come October 21st, though, things will get a little more exciting.

Read the Bible! Christ has yet to come and when he does, he sets up his kingdom on this Earth and reigns for a thousand years. Nothing is about to happen to this planet for quite a long time.

I am horrified at the amount of money spent on this project which has NO practical applications. There is a whole lot of suffering in this world that could be alleviated with 8 billion dollars…instead we’ve built a machine to smash protons together just to see what happens…it just makes no sense to me.

BUT WHAT IF YOU’RE WRONG ?!?! WE’RE ALL GOING TO D-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-E ! ! ! !

If the world ends, do I have to go to work that day?

does anyone know if cnn or any other large media company will broadcoast cerns LHC. i know eurovision is i just hope i will be able to see it.

Typical scientists, so obsessed with being able to do something that they fail to stop and think if they should.

What holds a “black hole” together is gravity. Gravity is manifested by an amount of mass. In comparison to short range nuclear forces, gravity is an extremely weak and negligible force. Any atomic nucleus larger than Iron has a greater and greater tendency to break, or “disintegrate”, up to very heavy nuclei like Uranium, which with a little push, will disintegrate with enough energy that we make bombs out of it. It takes a tremendous amount of gravity and hence mass to overcome the short range nuclear forces and make large bunches of subatomic particles even hold together, let alone make a black hole. The new, and all other colliders, only work with very tiny subatomic particles like protons and neutrons, whose gravity is so tiny that even if a theoretical miniature “black hole” were created, it would immediately disintegrate. This happens because there are particular short range nuclear forces which tend to break large atomic nuclei apart. Due to the lack of enough gravity to hold the particle together to overcome the short range nuclear forces, a black hole, at atomic dimensions, would just fall apart. For the layman, a black hole just cannot be created by a subatomic particle, or any microscopic particle, collider experiment.

im a 17 year old girl and im 5 months pregnant. im getting really ticked off about all this fuss as ive stopped eating because im so scared that the world is going to end !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

don’t worry, Sarah Palin says its in God’s hands.

Let’s try to sensible and understand this. The Higgs Bosun particle although as yet unobserved, I believe is thought to be the reason atoms, and therefore everything, has mass. If the experiment at Cerns does produce these particles, it only proves their existence. Demonstration of their existence then suggests that everything that has mass, the Earth, that tree, and you and I, also contain Higgs Bosun particles. Now, over the years I have taken on more mass, but I don’t think it’s due to the uncountable number of “Tiny Black Holes” that exist in my body, should their existence be proven. I have to admit though, it may be an acceptable excuse for my doctor who insists I eat too much and exercise to little. If a cascade of Higgs Bosun particles does occur in Cerns, even if they do persist, they will have a long line to stand in as the other Higgs Bosun particles here on Earth compete to suck up the entire Universe. And don’t get me started about the comparison of a collapsed star and a sub-atomic particle, both of which are now being called black holes. ? I wonder if this argument is meant as bait. Sensational, catastrophic results of a science experiment would be raw meat for the media and great publicity for the Large Hadron Collider starting up.

Why take the chance?

They must feel it very uncertain if they put it underground. Why chance it if there is nothing to gain.

(If only to answer how).

God is how!……………………………..Why chance destruction of our world?

My “take” on all this is that lunatics should not have access to the US court system. I’m no expert in particle physics (or botany), but considering that the Sun isn’t massive enough to create a black hole, it’s simply not going to happen on the surface of Earth either.

Not a problem the world is slowly being destroyed by its population. This will take some of the wait out of it.

People are ridiculous. These same worries happened when the RHIC started up in NY, and nothing happened. And even so, on the 10th they are just going to shoot a beam to make sure that all is well with it. They are not going to start smashing protons together until the end of the year when the machine is up to its max temp.

Well, here we go - the Flat Earther’s once AGAIN attempt to scare the Rounders!

Any event horizons (black holes) produced (and there will be) will be of dimensions approximating attometers in size (that is, one BILLIONTH the size of an atom, and one MILLIONTH the size of a proton).

Inter-event horizon distance (that is, the spacing between adjacent singularies) will be in the tenths of millimeters - or one MILLION BILLION times LARGER than the physical sizes of the singularities themselves.

Gravity is a 1/r squared function: thus at these distances each black hole exibits a gravitational attraction upon its nearest neighbors roughly equivalent to MY gravitational influence on the Crab Nebula.

Even though I am heavy, the Crab ISN”T responding to my influence all that rapidly……and these distances are such the holes will never “know” of each other’s existence.

Couple THAT with the fact these will only exist for femtoseconds….even if their gravitational attraction were an r to the 500th dependence (i.e. not inverse) the holes wouldn’t move one trillionth of an attometer closer to one another in their lifetimes.

Nice science fiction, the whole black-hole thing, but like most holes this fiction is full of……holes.

It is disappointing that you trot out these worries under the guise of exploring what people think.

In any event if you were at all informed about the LHC you would know that Wednesday’s experiment will only accelerate particles in one direction- later on the scientists will try the other direction. Any collisions of the particle beams will not take place for over a month.

Yikes, Carol, you caught me red-handed on “exploring what people think.” I won’t let it happen again, it’s the first step on the slippery slope toward a full-fledged democracy …….

Seriously, thanks for reading this carefully; I didn’t make it clear in the original post that this is only the first in a series of tests leading to the Real Thing next month. I’ve amended the blog. But since you’ve read my post carefully, can you please tell me where I’ve endorsed the “worries” that have been trotted out? It’s a blog, for goodness sakes, where opinions are welcome: Mine, yours, and the ones you or I don’t agree with. Oh, and thanks for letting me know what you think. PD

It’s not 2012 yet, the world can’t end now.

On a serious note though: I don’t have a degree in this field, but I was under the assumption that the theory of black holes forming, growing, and consuming more as it grew was dismissed some time ago. Isn’t their gravitational “boundary” limited to the size that the star once was? So the whole “crash, form, and poof” theory is much more realistic.

I’m not concerned about this at all… I’m actually really interested to hear what results because of these tests.

We are making a very big mistake. This time we scientists have gone too far.

As I said on another post:

Lets put up a billboard on the moon with a message warning any passing aliens, that if they don’t see a pretty blue planet over there (arrow pointing), they should probably not build one of these things, as it was a very bad idea….

Just kidding. Hope they find what they are looking for, and that the thing will actually power up (that in itself is worthy of applause).

These people have no right to take Mother Earth and plant such a huge (GOD KNOWS WHAT) into our planet and then think it may not do anything to our earth. Who do they think they are messing with everyone’s life? What is the long term effect? they don’t know, they only speculate. They don’t have this right and should be stop ASAP!! I can’t even imagine that our US Gov has condone this insanity, You people don’t have the right as earth does not just belong to you science fools!! Armagendon is coming fast enough, you are expediting what is coming. BACK OFF!!!!!!

If the wind kicks up on Wednesday, I’m seriously gonna freak out. If it does create a black hole, everyones invited to stay with me in my bombshelter.(first come first serve)

Nothing ventured, nothing gained. If it does swallow us up we won’t have to worry about the gas prices anymore

Ha! the ‘real’ danger is the tremendous magnetic vortex that will be created by this instrument. 30k tones and the power of the magnets throw it around! No one considers the impact that such a vortex could have on the Earths natural magnetic field! It could trigger a pole reversal! It could cause a shift in the magnetic dynamo alignment! These would be slower forms of global death, but devistating none the less.

Gloom! DOOM! and T.E.O.L.A.W.K.I. !!

Once again the worlds most ignorant nation tries to stop progress! Good for you America, just stay under your rock!

The fact that mini black holes are constantly forming and disappearing in our atmosphere and we haven’t got sucked up yet… so no, our world will not get sucked in tomorrow. Besides, in theory, if we do all get sucked up we are then One again & would be like Heaven anyways, so it wouldn’t be a bad thing anyway But by saying this 8 billion dollar experiment has no practical use??? If these theories are more certified and proven, then practical use for this experiment is even beyond our comprehension in the many ways we can “upgrade” technology. Not to mention the simple practical uses to getting closer to the practical “meaning of life” and a chance to make the global community aware of the more conscious atmosphere and chance to enhance the global well-being. This is more than practical. If you know the possibilities of this experiment, then you know what the theory implies…that we are all One and are all connected

This educational tool explains everything about how scientists with sharp eyes and quick reflexes can keep particle collisions under control. Observe:

http://www.kongregate.com/games/cgortz/fuz-ion

8 Billion dollars for a science experiment?

Great way to spend $$

12-21-12 has nothing to do with “End of the world” scenarios…

It follows the rest of the pattern on that Myan Long Count Calender, in that, in coincides with revolutionary events. Only in this case, the Mayans stopped keeping track and so their calender ended. People take that ending as assuming that it means the world is going to end.

At the most however, the world will not end, but it could see the rise of a massive revolution on or near that date, a revolution so profound that it could potentionally trigger the next World War; and bring an end to modern day Politics.

Such a Revolution is already taking shape in the United States right now as people are finding themselves more and more disillusioned with the constant idiocy of corrupt Politicians, bad Congressional track records (the Congress has a lower approval rating then the President by the way!) and constant lies, lies, and more lies…

Depending on who becomes the next President, in 2009, such a Revolution in 2012/2013 could go either way… Either it is a President who will do a bad job and people will say enough is enough and come the 2012 Elections, things start changing… Or it is a President who does a good job, and their next term (2012 Elections) marks the beginning of a new “golden era”…

Either way, by that time, many economists predict that the Middle East, China and India will become the dominant ecomonic super powers in the world and that the United States will be bowing to them, instead of the other way around.

2012 will see a massive shift in global wealth and economic control over the globe… and that, has the potential for triggering another major War, one the likes of which this world has yet never seen.

Nothing happens on 12-21-12.

That is just the date that is supposed to coincide with a period in which these things start happening, or become obviously apparent.

But first…

Its all going to start with that Large Hadron Converter!

When they turn that thing on, its massive magnetic field is going to magnetically realign the chemical balances of our brains and turn us all into super geniuses! But before that happens, its magnetic field is going to align with the magnetic field of the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider, at Brookhaven National Labs! Its gonna make this huge magnetic field that’ll create a time warp displacement anomaly that’ll suck that entire part of Europe through a tiny, microscopic rift in time, and drop it all back onto the Earth; 500 million years in the past, and it’ll become a new island that gives birth to the modern day legends of Atlantis!

Yay right…

I honestly don’t think anything is going to happen at all when they turn on that LHC; not one damn thing other then…

At the end of the day, they’ll be left with more questions, then answers…

After reading this post I posit the following question…

Why has there been no research into the greatest challenge facing humanity today? When and why did it become cool to display an IQ the same as the outside temperature in Wisconsin in January?

When a star collapses into a black hole, the star’s gravitational pull on surrounding objects does not increase. Similarly, if the earth were to collapse into a black hole, the moon woud stay just where it is, 240,00 miles from earth–because the gravity of the new black hole would be no larger than that of the earth.

So if a couple of protons do create a black hole in the LHC, that will hardly increase the gravity of the protons themselves. Thus, the gravitational threat to earth and human life has not increased.

Hello Everyone!

Where did they get all of this money to fund this project?
Did some of it come out of taxpayer’s money?
If so, I think people should have been allowed
to vote on whether or not they wanted this project
to take place. Moreover, I do not think the average
citzen has been given enough detailed information on
this project or its possible dangers.
There is no guarantee ensuring us that the magnetic
chamber will not spontaneously explode and
cause havoc on the planet and possibly throwing
it off of its axis. These so-called scientific geniuses
do not seem to know how to come up with a cure for
diseases or to stop hunger on the planet.
They live in dreamland.

Barak Obama has declared that he will personally step inside the Large Hadron Collidor and destroy all the Black Holes with his bare hands!

Just like he does when he Lays Hands on the sick and infirm during his rallies and Heals them!

The Hadron Collider is impressive, and I’m glad to say that the BEST in the WORLD are working on the project, there’s no need to fear the LHC.
I firmly believe that this paranoia is due to the media making groundless claims to gain attention, and it was probably told to do so by the government to back up their lawsuits in court over the LHC.

No Jason. You are partly right….the guy in charge should do a manic laugh but have an underling turn it on after he says “Igor, throw the switch” with a dramatic wave of his hand.

Actually, in all seriousness, we need people to cast doubt and ask questions just to keep people in check. History has shown that, from time to time, the unexpected and unforeseen happens. Even the monarchs of old had their jesters to sit beside them to whisper in their ears “remember thou art mortal” if they got too full of themselves. I dont believe anything bad will happen but I cannot say I wont be sitting with closed eyes at the time of turn on, lol.

They’re looking for the answer? I have the answer. It’s 42. Now, what was the question?

im not very worried as a christian.

i am a high school student and i think that common sense tells us that there have been many times that the world was supposedly gonna end and it obviously hasnt happened…..so i am just gonna go to bed as usual knowing that tomorrow is just a normal day

The last big thing that was similar to this was the splitting of atoms which led to modern nuclear weapons or weapons of mass destruction. It always starts as some noble cause but where does it end? Today we are constantly worried about these weapons falling in the wrong hands namely terrorists and countries that promote terrorism. We spend billions of dollars to protect us, yet the news is not a question of if, but when! What will this experiment produce? Will they produce a weapon that will make WMD’s obsolete?Unfortunately, we don’t know the evil it creates until it is too late. Is this the price that man must pay to “be like God” and know all??Or put another way, Those who don’t learn from history are condemned to repeat it! It kind of reminds me of the movie Jurassic Park which also started with good intentions, instead of a dinosaur eating us it is a black hole!

I’ll bet you $1,000,000 that world doesn’t end!

Hey you NERDS!!!…. I have my own super collider. It’s called a “toilet”. Throw a little matter into it and watch it swirl. WHEEEEE!!!…

What is evolution?

Evolution is technically defined as: “a gradual process in which something changes into a different and usually more complex or better form.” As it is most famously used, “evolution” is the process by which an organism becomes more sophisticated over time and in response to its environment. The Theory of Evolution is currently the most popular concept of how life reached its current state. Evolution as a biological mechanism is driven by natural selection. This theory is favored by many scientists to explain phenomena in nature, so much so that it is generally assumed as factual in most studies.

If we fail then we fail, but not to try would be a fate worst then death itself.

I say “Drive on ……Drive on”

Fire it up

K

It’s not important it gobbles up the earth, or even the universe. What’s important, is that it gets Obama.

And I’m with you, Brad.

smilodon —-6 x 7 I read it , too!

Just to let everyone know… The amount of energy that these tiny black holes that may or may not occur will be equivalent to about the energy produced by a fly flapping its wings. So if for any reason you know someone who has been adversely effected by flys and there flapping wings advise them to stay inside, for everyone else we should be ok. And on a side note stop being so afraid of things that you don’t understand, its very 1800s Thanks

Alot of you people who are against this experiment have not been taught the true benefits of what this experiment implies…First, we all know, and it’s been proven that the smallest particles make up the next particle and so on to make a whole. Your body for instance is made up of billions of atomic particles so you see the whole. Science has also proven that the smallest particles make the biggest bang, like the atomic bomb. Therefore, this 8 billion dollar experiment is on its path to find the cure for cancer, for hunger, for humanity. There is a reason so many of the world’s job scientist and colleges are spending billions for this, to find a closer cure to EVERTHING. If we fiqure out what mass is made of, what “cancer” is made of, we then bring us closer to finding the cure. 8 billion dollars going towards starving people or to people with cancer not will cure them. As with everything, you start with the source and work your way up, and that’s what these scientist are trying to do. This experiment will give us the starting point to cure diseases & enhance technology. And as with any technology, its depends whose hands it is in to use it for good or bad. This experiment reaps so many positive results for the global communities well being that it is unforseen by you non-believers. Have faith in something. It seems alot of you are God-fearing and have no Faith if your own God that this “supposed” evil will end the world as we know it, do you think your God will allow that to happen? Have faith…

This is the problem with news these days. “Let’s ask a bunch of people who don’t know what they’re talking about what they think and report it as news.” We pay people in white coats to know or to come up with these answers, so why not defer to them? They’re the experts.

As for what I think, there’s too much possibility of discovery to worry about extreme, borderline sci-fi theories about what could happen. And if it does destroy the human race, so what? We’re already embarking on a path of self-destruction (global warming) with little indication that we care what happens. Oh wait, that’s for future generations to deal with, and this could happen to ME.

As for Mr. Bandak’s conundrum, that’s too silly to even bother with. Next you’ll be going on about end of the world theories regarding the year 2012.

Perhaps with so much speculation as to this or that happening, the organizations running this show have done a pretty poor job of including we unwashed masses in on what the heck they hope to achieve. But any involvement by the US and it’s primary allies will be of course to look for back doors to new and better weapons technologies. Never be so naive as to think that the hand that supplies the money isn’t going to waiting around in the wings to collect…

Sounds like someone’s been reading James P. Hogan’s SF novel “Thrice Upon a Time” in which a fusion powerplant creates tiny black holes that eat the Earth - stopped only by our intrepid heroes and their time communication device!

Of course, the science at the time Hogan wrote the book suggested such things were possible, but Black Hole knowledge has evolved a great deal since the late 70s!

End of the world? I think not.

My take: I don’t think it will fully work tonight as alot of the elements to be used have been laying around for use for the last ten years(some longer), the expectation is it may not fully work. IF it does work this time, it would take at least four or five years before you would see physical effect on the planet, such as black holes (and not tiny ones).

From a faith issue: I too believe the Lord is setting his foot on this earth onto Mount Zion. Those in the faith know the signs are there for his coming as we are now in the 70th out of 70 prophices made. As chlldren of God we don’t need to fear man. So deep breathe, God is all powerful and if he doesn’t want this to happen it won’t.

From a Science persepctive: I think it is selfish to think there are not consequences to this in the hope of trying to jump deminsions or seek the God partical. You are not just going into the element of Science but into the sacred element of things. I am not against venturing into the unknown but it should be done with caution. The atom bomb still has consequences with people who have suffered cancers; and it’s still not clear just how widespread the effect really is, or was, with the known winds that spread across US and more .It is reported dust went far including north into New York State at that time (see historical facts) .
I know my God created this earth in seven days (God’s time) and not the millons as supposed and perhaps this experiment will give you a glimpse of that. If it does, I expect the Scientist to come forward and acknowledge God’s existence as truth (real).

Ok the world…well only God will know when the world is gonna end and to the people who dont believe in God well i dont know and these scientist are never gonna know exactly when the world is gonna end i mean c’mon have some since people. Seriously even my family agrees the only person that knows when the world is gonna end is God…THINK…if these scientist are wrong then im just gonna say i told you so. Well i rest my case…

I just read that Barak Obama has stated just now, that he shall personally stop the World from Ending!

He will walk into the LHC Control Room, throw his hands into the air and proclaim his omnipotence over mankind! Everyone in the control room will be caught up in the shock and awe over this proclamation, they’ll all get out of their seats and bow to him, and then they will cancel all their experiments with the LHC because Barak Obama’s newly proclaimed omnipotence will be seen as the perfect answer to all their questions!

But then, after he leaves the LHC…

…and a new Question will then form and be asked… for they all shall sit there, and suddenly ask themselves…

“WTF?”

Then they’ll turn on the LHC anyway, and…

Nothing happens!

Interestingly enough, he admits below that the collider will in fact create black holes. As far as I know, we can only infer the existence of black holes be the behavior of objects near them. I seriously doubt there will be a calamity, but who’s to say it’s impossible? The ‘God Particle’ might not appreciate being found.

Sleep sound tonight; I’ll wake you if we all vaporize into deep space…

Where do some of you people think we would be without years and years and years of spending on “science experiments”? It is like people think that everything is okay right now.

No need for advancement. No need to broaden your horizons. Let’s forget that the computer you are typing on is the result of experiments going back HUNDREDS of years, that at the time no one could have predicted would lead to a way to have instantaneous information

Just because you don’t understand something doesn’t mean that it is wrong or bad. The lack of science understanding, and even basic reading comprehension about science in this country is truly appalling. And then the news media plays on that ignorance to stir up fake controversy and worry about things that there is no legitimate, reasonable reason to be worried about.

Holy Cra*,

The number of you bible thumpers that actually believe this will destroy the world is utterly astonishing. Tell you what, let;s ban all forms of science and go back to living in caves.

Well done to the entire LHC team, let’s hope they get some answers!

Oh…and how do we know that the smaller partical colliders haven’t already done damage? The bees are disappearing at alarming rates and no one knows why. And maybe this is one of those freaky quantum thingies that will react differently to observation. Wave particle distribution in quantum mechanics works that way, right. Don’t any of you guys read Fantastic Four?

The newest recent theory is that the “Big Bang” started with just one atom and created the entire universe. It would be funny if mankind’s only purpose in this life was to evolve to the point of technology that we could “re-create” the Big Bang, wipe out everything and start a new universe all over again. Interesting.

So much misinformation here! First of all the real experiment is not tomorrow…but in a month or so. Then if by any chance we get swallowed by mini blackholes…i will be kind of glad…we humans are so stupid )

If you believe in God then you have nothing to fear.

I typed a huge response but it said the server was not working..hmmm

Nothing will happen that God does not allow, including consequences.

Haven’t we been in a black hole during the last 8 years of Bush? What can be worse than that?

OBAMA WILL SAVE US.

In all seriousness, I’m just scured because I don’t understand.
It’s human nature, our natural instincts to react to a possibility that our survival will be interrupted. We’re still only animals on a sense.

Just don’t call us idiots for being against it. Those who don’t understand are just scared of the unknown possibilities.

Yea we wanna know if this is gonna be broadcasted anywhere.

@ Jason: I agree 100% lol

Raymonth, leave B.Obama out of this….he is just a man trying to make the world a little brighter..he is not God, he knows he is not God………you’re awfully obssessed with him…shame….do you feel the same way about S. Plain?

WERE ALL GOING TO DIE
black holes are ballin
dipset holllllaaaaaaa

As one born and raised Catholic, it embarasses me to see so many people using faith as a shield to hide behind or a rock to throw, rather than as a light to illuminate. As a scientist, it saddens me further that mankind refuses to use its greatest gift - intellect - to solve the problems of this world. I hope the LHC accomplishes precisely what it has set out to do - provide insight to the mysteries of the universe.

I have been around the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider for 8 years now and as far as i can see i have not been sucked into a black hole (I think).

Thanks Tom — if you see a Black Hole pulling into the parking lot at Brookhaven, drop us an email and I’ll publish your farewell blog PD

I think it’s very sad that the country with the longest recent history of scientific achievement — the United States — now leads the world in chicken-littles who want this project to end now.

We are no longer the world’s leader in sciences. We have seced to Japan, China, France, England, Germany, Canada, India, Russia… The attitudes we display now will come back to haunt us, when we stop making progress, and owe the existence of every consumer good we buy to inventions made somewhere else.

The reason they bury colliders isn’t to supress black holes. It’s to shield the colliders, and their extremely expensive and sensitive sensors from outside influence (gamma rays, etc.). If a black hole got large enough to where it started consuming everything, it wouldn’t matter if it was 100 feet or 100 miles under the earth’s surface.

Personally, I think it’d be a pretty cool way to off ourselves. We’d never feel a thing. Just, poof, and you’d be part of the soup. You’d never know what hit you.

By the way, Sam Bandak: ten thousand; hundred thousand; million; ten million; hundred million. Is that 4.1, 4.2, .4.3, 4.4 and 4.5?

Just asking.

I am a theoretical particle physicist in the U.S. My research is directly related to the LHC, and I assure you the LHC poses no threat to our planet. I have been rather disappointed by the media for the attention this story has been receiving. The continued insistence on the possibility of an LHC apocalypse, given the carefully scrutinized analyses by particle physicists who fully understand these issues, is simply bad science which should be filtered by other scientists before reaching the public through the press.

The LHC is a technological masterpiece of a machine, which collides protons into other protons at speeds close to the speed of light. The LHC is designed to answer some fundamental questions about how the universe works, questions which today are truly puzzling to particle physicists like why the electron has mass. The Higgs boson has been discussed quite a bit recently, as it provides one answer to that question. But the Higgs boson raises an embarassing problem, namely that the theory of the Higgs boson requires nature to have tuned a parameter to a part in 10^-32 or so in order for the theory to make sense. That’s where the trouble starts.

Since we don’t really believe that nature is so precarious, theoretical physicists have spent some time dreaming up alternatives to the Standard Model of particle physics. If certain kinds of additional particles exist (which would be discovered at the LHC), then the tuning of the Standard Model could disappear. One version of this story is known as supersymmetry, and there are alternatives in a similar spirit. Or, if there are extra dimensions of space, the tuning could also disappear. Ah, but then there might also be microscopic black holes produced at the LHC, an unlikely scenario which would be incredibly exciting if confirmed.

Most LHC end-of-the-world scenarios are focused on these microscopic black holes. The proponents of these scenarios argue that, since we have not created an LHC before, we don’t really know what will happen. The general theoretical framework of how particle physics and gravity work together, which we would learn much more about if micro-black holes are produced, implies that micro-black holes would almost immediately disappear in a micro-explosion of elementary particles that will light up computer screens at the LHC and the imagination of scientists everywhere. But there would be no apocalyptic fireworks.

It is true that we don’t know for sure that our theoretical framework is correct. So they hand us alternative pseudo-scientific “theories” in which the micro-black holes would not decay but would eventually eat up the Earth. So we respond by a scientific study of events similar to those produced in the LHC, but in the Earth’s atmosphere or in dense stars which we argue would be happening all the time, yet there has been no evidence of any nightmare scenario. So they say those situations are not precisely what would happen in the LHC. And they are correct. We have not built an LHC before, and there is not one sitting out in space. There are collisions between fast-moving particles that would be creating micro-black holes all the time, but not in a controlled environment like the LHC. So we cannot be absolutely 100% sure that nothing crazy will happen since we have never done this before.

But, the universe would have to have been designed extremely carefully to bend physical law so that precisely the collisions of particles in the LHC would lead to death by a hungry black hole, but not similar collisions occuring all the time in the atmosphere or in stars. It would be as if, while experimenting on the design for a new microwave oven, a situation is produced in which a portal to a new dimension is opened through which an endless stream of Teletubbies enters our universe. (And what could be more frightening than that?) We cannot really prove that this nightmarish scenario will not happen because we have not created this precise style of microwave oven before. But, the laws of physics would have to bend in just such a way that the construction of precisely that design of microwave oven would lead to death by Teletubby invasion. Trust me, we are safe from Teletubbies. And from the LHC.

I get the feeling that those of you who think yourselves so enlightened and progressive snicker at this story and yet are the same people who bemoan the ending of earth because we evil humans are causing a climate change.

Sure, there is probability of anything at any time. Could this create a mini-black hole? Sure. (Picture Dr. Evil saying that!! LOL) Could an asteroid hit the earth obliterating life as we know it? Odds are better that it will. Could humans grow a brain and think for themselves? Not likely.
The experiment could change the way we think about matter and why it has mass. The risks are so minuscule it’s not even worth talking about and there is only theory about what would happen if something were to go wrong. And if it does, well you won’t really care anymore, will you?

Oh, and I’ll have my double-barrel shotgun and chainsaw just in case a Cyberdemon walks through. HEHEHEH!!! (Doom reference for those of you who haven’t had the pleasure of playing the greatest video game ever created.)

There are some who say if the universe were to end, something more complex and inexplicable would immediately take its place… there are, of course, others who say this has already happened.

I hold a degree in physics, and I’ve worked on that ATLAS project at the LHC. If this thing creates a black hole it will be nothing new for this planet. Although this is the first time humans have wielded this kind of energy the universe certainly has been producing collisions this powerful for a while in the form of cosmic rays; cosmic rays can get up to 10^20 eV pretty easily, while the protons in the LHC are going to cruise in around 10^12 eV. If it was possible that something with the amount of energy of the collisions at the LHC could create a micro black hole cosmic ray particle decay would have destroyed this planet, and all matter in the universe, very shortly after the big bang. The assertion that the LHC could destroy much of anything with what it produces is patently absurd.

just pray and have hope that this experiment will no cause major damages or any minors.

Im all for science, ive loved it all my life, a full 15 years of life, in my view, taking a risk this big is not somthing a person or people should do, its not up to a few people to gamble the life of the rest of the people on the world, think of the risk. We have information to gain if it goes as planed…if something goes wrong, we have millions of lives to lose, it just dont add up. People need to learn to let things be, and stop messing with the unknown when the stakes are this high.

The same kind of nonsense accompanied the first tests of the atomic bomb. Some scientists said the test would “burn away the Earth’s atmosphere”. Hey, it didn’t happen, and look what we were left with, the atomic and then the hydrogen bomb.

I am as in favor of the advancement of scientific knowledge as the next person, but I don’t think the risk here is worth the reward. A black hole is a black hole. It doesn’t matter if it is atom sized, country sized, or world sized. It will, by it’s very theoretical nature, suck in surrounding matter and grow exponentially.

Why can’t we wait a few more months for improvements to the Hubble Space Telescope to possibly reveal the “God particle”? Or, how about waiting until we have the technology to build a collider in space (distant) or on some other world?

Anyway, its probably too late to stop or postpone it. Good luck to everyone and I hope I am sound asleep when it happens.

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Even if the potential of ending the world is 1/10 billion, I don’t think this project should proceed. As a scientist with a PhD in Cancer Genetics, I know that things can sometimes go wrong. I also understand that risks are necessary to have real scientific progress. But, why would anyone want to experiment in something that could cause the end of the world? I am currently a medical student and I see patients consent to procedures that have much higher potential risks than building this collider. While they may risk their lives for a procedure that could help their health, I doubt they would risk the fate of the world for the potential to replicate the big bang.

>> Even if the potential of ending the world is 1/10 billion,
>> I don’t think this project should proceed. As a scientist
with a PhD in Cancer Genetics, I know that things can
>> sometimes go wrong.
>

DESPINA…

If you’ve got a PhD then do the math and figure out for yourself how small the amounts of energy that will be released are.

I can’t help but think of the Rocky Horror Picture Show when Tim Curry goes thru that long dialoge explaining his machine and how it will result in “the spark of life”. Pretty cool stuff if it works

Chances are we will all be fine. But what troubles me about all this is that, once again, science seems to be forging forward on its own accord without feeling the need to fully explore or explain the possible conesequences of the experiments. To me, if there were even a one in a billion chance of destroying the planet, I’d make damned sure that the probability would be reduced to absolute zero before proceeding.

I find the same level of arrogance present in the genetic modification community. The scientists involved find it’s okay to tinker with the fundamental blueprints of life. Splice it, dice it, copyright it and market it, with little or no consideration to what might be created or destroyed, on purpose or by accident. It’s frightning, although understandable in this case, since we all know the longterm goal of the genetics companies it to make huge profits.

But it’s just puzzling when it comes to the LCH. It’s been stated the experiments are being done for the “benefit of scientific knowledge” and not for immediate profit. So why exactly are we charging forward so recklessly in this case? Surely man’s appetite for knowledge is not as hungry as his appetite for profits, is it?

I consider myself somewhat of an expert on black holes because of my knowledge gained about them by watching numerous science fiction movies. The most important thing I have learned is that black holes are ALWAYS BAD!!! We should avoid creating them at all costs. Even if it means giving up our quest for more knowledge of the universe. Why take a chance? Most science fiction is based on facts and should not be ignored.

Despina,
the risk is so small that it is not worth taking into account. You take a larger risk going to work each day than this project poses to the whole world combined.

As far as the practical application and the amount of money spent on the project, that is a more valid argument, but still flawed. Even if 8 billion dollars were to be given to other arguably more worthy causes we would still not be able to answer a fundamental question that scientists have been trying to answer for decades. We may not know of a practical use for this theoretical particle now, but we may be able to find one as we learn more about its properties.

http://btv.bg/news/news_details.pcgi?cont_id=118013

As an 11 year old in school, I believe this is highly dangerous no matter what the outcome.

Despina…Do you know what this experiment will show in the study of cancer? Do you really? It will change the way doctors in the field of cancer even perceive cancer. It will point people like you, doctors, etc in the correct directional to further your research. As you are a doctor in the field on cancer, you know that cancer is very small is size and has the potential to create death. As I think you would know, you would know that this experiment will help your field of study tremendously. Did you do any research on what this experiment says if they catch this glimpse at what they are looking for? Coming from a PHD from someone as smart as yourself, I would think you would recognize this. Are you going to live by fear and have no faith & go against the “mss/energy” that makes up cancer? Or are you going to realize that when we get a better idea of what makes up the mass/energy of cancer that this experiment will be a great thing afterall? I say don’t live in fear. I believe that if anyone lives in fear there will always be fear. We are meant to take chances with faith, without faith you will gain nothing. C’mon despina, you know this experiment will not end earth…besides whats the point when we just sit back and do nothing? Like not furthering our research drastically and eventually before we know it cancer will always be there. Take a chance and have some faith and common sense

Why in the world does this need to be done? The time, energy, and especially the cost should have been used to help with the problems our world faces now…………not just to check out a theory! We should be researching alternative fuel sources, a cure for cancer, etc instead of something like this. Not to mention that even the physicists and scientists working on this project admit that they are not sure what will happen until they start it up. Suppose it does cause some disturbance to our earth? It is not worth the risk, NO MATTER HOW SMALL IT MAY BE. Regardless of planning, sometimes things can go wrong… Sometimes we just need to leave well enough alone!

For those of you calling opposers chickens, bible thumpers, etc.
Just because we oppose something and believe it is wrong, does not mean that we are terrified or mindless robots who follow the Bible. Maybe we care about the earth and the people on it and don’t want to take any chances just to try and prove someone’s idea.

Besides, I don’t believe in the Big Bang theory anyway.
You can’t tell me that things collide and then just accidently form a wonderful planet like earth. It took a Creator to make something so intricate and I firmly believe that. What we need to be doing is working on solving some of the problems that affect us now and quit tampering with things that we don’t need to be tampering with.

I dont understand yall idiots yall aint nothing but a bunch of none believers. What do yall gain from this tell me yall havent said anything about it on the news. Yall are so stupid spending 6 billion dollars on this why dont yall do something like find a cure for aids or cancer?? If yall do this the rath of god will come down and get yall and you know it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A black hole that swallows up the solar system? How about a more perfect vacuum that swallows up the universe?
Nine years ago Pubic Radio ran an article, saying space is an imperfect vacuum. Some mathmetician calculated that if two particles collided at a high enough speed, they could create a more perfect vacuum, which would expand at a rate faster than the speed of light, consuming everything in its path.
At least we wont know what hit us.

Larakens.

…I don’t think you see the benefits of this experiment. It’s not just to prove a theory. It is to point us in the right direction to cure some of earth’s problems. The experiment is not to find the answer to God, it is to further the understanding to point the world into a correct path, and that path is to know the basics of what EVERYTHING is made of. When we know this, possibilites for global warming, cancer, disease, hunger, can all be decreased or cured. You can’t just put $9 billion into cancer research, autism research, global warming research, etc. That;s the way research has always been done…and is cancer, hunger, global warming or any other major disease been decreased. We need to devote our attention to what makes up the mass of everything, and we have a good starting point to point us in the right direction. This experiment has the possibilities beyond what we can imagine. I believe in God and that God creates everything the same as you. I believe God is everything and is everything. This human life we are in currently does have these basic laws like particles collide and create big bangs, etc. The smallest things create the biggest bang, and thats what this experiment is trying to fiqure out, why and what is it made of. When we get a better idea of this, we can then get a good direction to try to find cures for cancer, disease, global warming, etc. I believe God gave us two great gifts, everything that exists and Faith. So lets have some faith and believe in this experiment for a better cause. Great is going to come out of this, not the end of the world.

The world will only end by fire. Its in the bible

I cant believe people have been planning an experiment to replicate the big bang theory of the world’s largest particle accelerator. The 13-mile long circular tunnel runs through Switzerland, and a bit of France. Just can’t believe they have planned this for so long. The object of the game (the $8 billion game, by the way) is to smash protons into each other, replicating the conditions an instant after the Big Bang. Which will take place tomorrow. Why didn’t we know about this sooner, more publicly. Well God created the Earth/Universe/everything & thats all you need to know. Why do we have to know about some search for the Higgs boson, a particle that was left after the big bang theory. Don’t make sense at all. Why aren’t these people/governments/world leaders spending these moneys on our Earth the people of the Earth, we don’t live in space we live on Earth, isn’t that more important. Spending $8,000,000, on this project is just unbelievable. The poor people of the world need our help more. I just don’t understand, why we have to know these things. I want more done from our world leaders to help people who need help, not cause’s that we don’t really have to know or will ever help us in the long run. More needs to be done to help the Earth & the people of the Earth. That is a greater truth…Don’t you agree??????. Aaron.

we are in the safe zone?……. and STOP CONDUCTING YOUR Sophisticated INVENTIONS, LEAVE US LIVE IN PEACE. I am 12 years old. A son of a physicist.

I would like to propose a search for something like a particle that may or may not exist and get $8 billion dollars! How much of the $8 billion dollars is the U.S. (i.e. my tax money)contributing? Are we not in the middle of a war with billions of dollars of deficit…where’s the logic!? Of course, I guess if the world ends, that’s the least of our problems. And for all those scientists who have argued against God all this time, they’ll finally get all the answers to their “theories”. Better be hopin’ you’re right!!

Aaron I strongly disagree. Read above what I had written previously, again, the point of this experiment is not to try and replicate the big bang. I suggest you do alot of research to see what this experiment is actually doing. This experiment will show that if you start with the smallest things in life, you can cure the larger things in life. Like gas shortage, cancer, poor people, disease, people with disabilities. You have to start small to get big results, and that’s what this experiment is doing. Just like anything else in life, you have to start with the smallest basics to understand the larger picture. Everyone will see the results of this experiment in 10, 20, 60, 100 years to come. Do your research and you’ll see what this experiment actually implies and what it’s doing.

what the hell, it sounds at least a bit less slow and painful than nuclear fallout! Point being: maybe we’ll be fortunate enough to be killed quickly by the LHC as opposed to the slow death given to us by the Bush administration, Russia, China (in coming years), etc.

go ahead CERN! Fire it up and save us all!!!

If the world ends and you believe in a God, you will be welcome in to his arms, right? For those who don’t believe in the big man up stairs, you die and nothing happens. I don’t see why everyone is so scared. But if i was a 17 year old prego, the last think i would worry about is the stuff people right in witch they know nothing about and eat something(VICKY).

My favorite part of all of these comments is the same reason this discussion is so pointless. NO ONE READS!!! Almost no one has read enough about this situation so they say “oh the world is going to end�. Then someone who knows what they are talking about writes about how there is no danger and for some reason the next comment is that the world is going to end. Why don’t all of the people who think the world is going to end just make up whatever they want to happen and go spend time with your family because you obviously have no reason to be online not enlightening yourself anyway.

For anyone who would like to write a comment in the future… please read a few of the comments before you write so you can actually try to learn something and maybe in turn add something relevant to the discussion.

Thanks

Damn—and I was worried about second hand smoke.

For those of you who haven’t yet heard, the Large Hardon Collider, better known as LHC, is a massive $8B (that’s right B=Billion) project almost in completion along the Switzerland/France border deep within the Earth. The purpose of this grand machine is to re-create the very beginning of time itself. -By smashing together two atoms at unfathomable speeds. Scientist hope this will create the Higgs Boson effect, or better known as the “God particle”. They believe that once they locate this elusive particle it will solve all of the mysteries of the Universe. (sneaker sneaker…) Also the project is believed to be capable of producing black holes. (Which in case you never knew, they eat everything…. including light in the blink of an eye.) So with that in consideration, scientist are going ahead with the project, even though it has the potential to perhaps eat the Universe… (gobble).

OK. So with that out of the way, here’s the Truth:

1st off: If you are concerned about the black holes that very well may be created during the function of this machine, eating you alive… :Read your Holy Bible:
-In the end times (Which I DO believe we are coming to) most people will actually come to a much slower death than a black hole could provide (so rest easy). So I don’t believe that part is a major concern. However, it very well could create environmental situations like those spoken of in Bible Prophecy.

But what is most concerning to me is this:

Over 2,000 scientist from all over the globe are participating in this fiasco. A project to test theories that could NEVER be proven. $8 Billion has been spent to attempt to prove to (?) someone (?) that we are “nothing” (geez…). Strange how an endless supply of money is being thrust at finding this God particle, when it’s so obvious that He is everywhere. The problem isn’t that they can’t find Him.. the problem is that they can’t simplify Him to suit their justifications for sin. If they would just open their eyes, they could see God in the clearness of every breath-consuming moment. But who knew there was $8 Billion just floating around out there anyway? I always assumed that if an organization “for the betterment of society” came into that kind of excessive funding that they might, o.. I dunno…. -feed the hungry, clothe the needy, house the homeless.. etc. -With so much devastation, who would’ve thought the world’s “smartest” would opt to poor salt in the wounds by announcing “o yea, by the way, we are all meaningless!”. How sad this day truly is.

What a crazy waste of money….

No one here on Earth, can re-create the beginning of time. And the more we attempt to exclude God from His very own creation, the more plagues, natural disasters, and flagrant dismiss for life we will see.

How astounding it is that also when we turn to our newscasts, and watch the horror of thrill-kill murders, the natural disasters like never before, the violence, and the chaos, that we have the audacity to ask ourselves “what’s really going on with the world?”

Isn’t it obvious?

-If you teach a child that they are nothing, do you expect that child to grow up believing they have any worth?
-If you tell a man he has no one to answer to, do you expect him to obey the laws?
-If you tell a woman her womb can become a discreet tomb because that baby is meaningless, do you expect her to cherish and care for her remaining offspring?

What do you expect? -You can simply NOT teach a person they have no conscious but expect them to act consciously!

We did not occur here by mere chance. -No matter what a man with a plaque on his wall tells you. He is just a man with the same bodily functions as you!

Our public schools are teaching our children theories that the following year must be replaced with new theories. While our morals and worldly standards are being replaced with sci-fi imaginations of youth.
What’s this have to do with the LHC project you ask?
-My answer is this: The LHC project is the largest, most expensive, physical manifestation of all that is wrong in the human error. It is a $8 Billion dollar monster created to attempt the feat of poving God’s non-existence. More textbooks will be rewritten, more LHC’s erected, more spirit-absorbing theories will be suggested. But when all is said in done : Those of you who deny Him, will have to answer to Him, just like us who believe.

Because God wouldn’t fit into our boxes, we denied Him altogether.

We have left the Father’s path to follow our own.

Lost sheep indeed.

For the record: I find it frightenly upsetting how little the majority of the posters on this site care about their precious lives. It is an upsetting confirmation that so many people are prepared to humorously “bring on” death. This is the only chance at life we get people!

well right now im thinking and reading some of your comments and im thinking in our time in there were supposed to be alot of things happening but most of them never happened and most of them are about the world ending and im really nervous about the black hole stuff and some ppls comments say that the media has made such a big deal and turned it into the message im not sure that is true but i am christian so lets jus pray and hope everythings good…. and if the world does come to an end i say we all convert into christians =]