Comments on: My search for Steve Fossett http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/02/my-search-for-steve-fossett/ Mon, 21 Dec 2009 22:33:09 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: STEWART http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/02/my-search-for-steve-fossett/#comment-10348 STEWART Wed, 29 Oct 2008 18:29:29 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=1306#comment-10348 i think M R WIGGINS must have been in contact with another american "ELVIS" and just got cross lines i think M R WIGGINS must have been in contact with another american "ELVIS" and just got cross lines

]]> By: MissH http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/02/my-search-for-steve-fossett/#comment-10180 MissH Sun, 26 Oct 2008 21:02:00 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=1306#comment-10180 How can anyone check the coords when you don't display them and how can they contact you for the coords, when you don't give a contact adress? How can anyone check the coords when you don't display them and how can they contact you for the coords, when you don't give a contact adress?

]]> By: STEWART http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/02/my-search-for-steve-fossett/#comment-9839 STEWART Fri, 17 Oct 2008 17:05:13 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=1306#comment-9839 CAT GOT YOUR TOUNGE????? CAT GOT YOUR TOUNGE?????

]]> By: STEWART http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/02/my-search-for-steve-fossett/#comment-9758 STEWART Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:48:01 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=1306#comment-9758 also why did you NOT print off the pics??? then send them or at the very least have something to show someone!!!!!!!!! also why did you NOT print off the pics??? then send them or at the very least have something to show someone!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: STEWART http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/02/my-search-for-steve-fossett/#comment-9757 STEWART Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:46:11 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=1306#comment-9757 ok i will bite so how did he contact you?????? ok i will bite so how did he contact you??????

]]> By: Michael R Wiggins http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/02/my-search-for-steve-fossett/#comment-9748 Michael R Wiggins Wed, 15 Oct 2008 04:22:58 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=1306#comment-9748 For starters I know the results aren't in yet on the dna at the crash site. But I have tried repeatedly to tell anyone the coordinates where I found what I think is a person! Last year I downloaded the amazon/turk imagery for use on google earth to start my own little search. I do not claim to be psychic but I located a person near the flying m ranch standing by 6 rocks forming a half circle along with some blue coveralls laying on a rock they were forming an H this was two days after he disappeared in two day old imagery! And also nearby I found some scrape marks on a hill it looks like something tried to touch down. Like I said before I don't claim to be psychic but I had only located all of these (I have coordinates for all) while I was in contact with whom I believed was Steve! He told me some pretty interesting things all related to his disappearance. For starters he said he flew near the ranch to try and signal for help which didn't work. The Aileron was jammed but the rudder worked he said he couldn't bring the plane down and it would only go left! He said he attempted to try and bring it down on a slight hill it touched down and bounced up and started to fly back up so he bailed out. He was injured in the attempt and he said he watched as his only means of return took off and banked to the south. The one thing that threw me off was he threw a big fit about his wallet and said everything he had was on that plane including his coat. I didn't realize any of this was important until they located the wreckage however I tried repeatedly to contact anybody in hopes they would look into the coordinates I had sent them although I should have given them the details I knew I didn't think it mattered. It didn't help though perhaps it was too unbelievable for me to claim I found him! I told him to remain there though but the next day he left the area and told me he was almost attacked by what he said was a wild dog. I asked if he meant coyotes but he insisted he knew the difference and that they looked more like dogs. He eventually returned to the area after I told him I probably wouldn't be able to relocate him in later imagery. During then next contact he said he left again because he was attacked by one of the dog's he said he was walking south. I asked why south and not east like I told him and he said they were steering him in that direction and it wasn't just one it was several. I tried to reassure him that help was on the way and he said he hoped it would get there soon because he didn't know if he could make it another day. He said his hand was all tore up from the attack and he lost the stick he used to fend himself from the animal that attacked. He said he was cold and losing blood badly he told me he found a spot kind of like a crevice with a large rock that his back was against. The next day I couldn't contact him it wasn't until two days later that he finally answered back and told me he was no longer alive. And just recently I re-downloaded the dg-3 images to see if I could find his body and I located something but will not tell just anyone those coordinates! This has had me stressed waiting on the dna results and has even affected my health making it worse. I would hope at least that somebody working at the ranch will contact me for the coordinates of my latest search! I won't list the details of the image or the coordinates but I will say it looks very very promising! Will somebody please listen??? This is beginning to affect me personally!!! What will it hurt to check one location about 2 miles from the ranch? I realize anybody can be wrong about anything and I am willing to accept defeat if that is the case. Please this is no joke or laughing matter!! I am dead serious and it is killing me to know this without telling somebody!! For starters I know the results aren't in yet on the dna at the crash site. But I have tried repeatedly to tell anyone the coordinates where I found what I think is a person! Last year I downloaded the amazon/turk imagery for use on google earth to start my own little search. I do not claim to be psychic but I located a person near the flying m ranch standing by 6 rocks forming a half circle along with some blue coveralls laying on a rock they were forming an H this was two days after he disappeared in two day old imagery! And also nearby I found some scrape marks on a hill it looks like something tried to touch down. Like I said before I don't claim to be psychic but I had only located all of these (I have coordinates for all) while I was in contact with whom I believed was Steve! He told me some pretty interesting things all related to his disappearance. For starters he said he flew near the ranch to try and signal for help which didn't work. The Aileron was jammed but the rudder worked he said he couldn't bring the plane down and it would only go left! He said he attempted to try and bring it down on a slight hill it touched down and bounced up and started to fly back up so he bailed out. He was injured in the attempt and he said he watched as his only means of return took off and banked to the south. The one thing that threw me off was he threw a big fit about his wallet and said everything he had was on that plane including his coat. I didn't realize any of this was important until they located the wreckage however I tried repeatedly to contact anybody in hopes they would look into the coordinates I had sent them although I should have given them the details I knew I didn't think it mattered. It didn't help though perhaps it was too unbelievable for me to claim I found him! I told him to remain there though but the next day he left the area and told me he was almost attacked by what he said was a wild dog. I asked if he meant coyotes but he insisted he knew the difference and that they looked more like dogs. He eventually returned to the area after I told him I probably wouldn't be able to relocate him in later imagery. During then next contact he said he left again because he was attacked by one of the dog's he said he was walking south. I asked why south and not east like I told him and he said they were steering him in that direction and it wasn't just one it was several. I tried to reassure him that help was on the way and he said he hoped it would get there soon because he didn't know if he could make it another day. He said his hand was all tore up from the attack and he lost the stick he used to fend himself from the animal that attacked. He said he was cold and losing blood badly he told me he found a spot kind of like a crevice with a large rock that his back was against. The next day I couldn't contact him it wasn't until two days later that he finally answered back and told me he was no longer alive. And just recently I re-downloaded the dg-3 images to see if I could find his body and I located something but will not tell just anyone those coordinates! This has had me stressed waiting on the dna results and has even affected my health making it worse. I would hope at least that somebody working at the ranch will contact me for the coordinates of my latest search! I won't list the details of the image or the coordinates but I will say it looks very very promising! Will somebody please listen??? This is beginning to affect me personally!!! What will it hurt to check one location about 2 miles from the ranch? I realize anybody can be wrong about anything and I am willing to accept defeat if that is the case. Please this is no joke or laughing matter!! I am dead serious and it is killing me to know this without telling somebody!!

]]> By: STEWART http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/02/my-search-for-steve-fossett/#comment-9693 STEWART Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:03:13 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=1306#comment-9693 has any one heard about the results of the dna tests???? i am a brit who flew over that area a couple of years ago and it was scary now i fly just between Georgia and florida and man those swamps are not nice either way the animals get you has any one heard about the results of the dna tests???? i am a brit who flew over that area a couple of years ago and it was scary now i fly just between Georgia and florida and man those swamps are not nice either way the animals get you

]]> By: mike http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/02/my-search-for-steve-fossett/#comment-9617 mike Thu, 09 Oct 2008 22:34:23 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=1306#comment-9617 The picture of the prop blade is telling, especially in light of the following from the NTSB's report: "The airplane was involved in a landing incident on May 27, 2007. During this event, the airplane departed the runway during landing roll and impacted a barbed wire fence. An engine sudden stoppage examination was performed and a new constant speed propeller was installed on the airplane." Recent prop strike + lack of tortional damage to the prop blade suggests that the engine wasn't making power at impact. At this point, it won't be a surprise if they find a broken or siezed crankshaft inside that engine. I wonder if the other prop blade was found. Engine failure also fits with the crash trajectory. It looks like he was trying to land--relatively flat trajectory, paint scars (striations) showing a nose-up, wings-level attitude, the long debris path. IF it turns out that this was a forced landing gone horribly wrong, his reputation as a competent pilot should be fully restored. There are few places to put down in those mountains where the odds of survival are better than a crap shoot. The picture of the prop blade is telling, especially in light of the following from the NTSB's report: "The airplane was involved in a landing incident on May 27, 2007. During this event, the airplane departed the runway during landing roll and impacted a barbed wire fence. An engine sudden stoppage examination was performed and a new constant speed propeller was installed on the airplane."

Recent prop strike + lack of tortional damage to the prop blade suggests that the engine wasn't making power at impact. At this point, it won't be a surprise if they find a broken or siezed crankshaft inside that engine. I wonder if the other prop blade was found.

Engine failure also fits with the crash trajectory. It looks like he was trying to land–relatively flat trajectory, paint scars (striations) showing a nose-up, wings-level attitude, the long debris path. IF it turns out that this was a forced landing gone horribly wrong, his reputation as a competent pilot should be fully restored. There are few places to put down in those mountains where the odds of survival are better than a crap shoot.

]]> By: d windsock http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/02/my-search-for-steve-fossett/#comment-9593 d windsock Thu, 09 Oct 2008 08:11:32 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=1306#comment-9593 From an article in Esquire magazine, "Just before Fossett took off, Hilton’s staff pilot, a guy named Mike Gilles, carefully went over the preflight and landing procedures with him. As Gilles explained later, Steve Fossett was “not a stick-and-rudder man” and “could get in over his head” in this type of aircraft." This is very telling, there are also certain skills in flying low and slow in mountaineous locations that not every pilot posseses, even accomplished pilots, especially in unfamiliar a/c and terrain. Also there is possibly a witness who has stated they were in Yosemite the day of the accident and saw a light a/c flying too low and with engine problems sounding like the engine was missing. Witnesses in aviation have often proven unreliable, but perhaps this one is accurate. Also, the Fossett family was very involved with Yosemite and the Sierra Club to the extent that Steve Fossett's dad would lead groups for the Sierra Club's outings and excursions. Steve had countless trips to Yosemite and would have had favorite places there, perhaps that is why he was flying low in those particular canyons and mountain ranges, he might have been revisiting, from the air, special spots in the Park. That is exactly what I would be doing if I were he, since my parents considered Yosemite as sacred ground, and there are certain areas I would make a point of flying over, as low as saftey would allow. Whether it was spatial disorientation, not knowing how to fly in the mountains, not looking for a downhill way out in the canyons, downdraft rotors, whether he was flying behind the plane-in abilities, had a medical problem, or whether he had an mx issue or engine out, we don't know, it was probably cumilative, as miles and erin here have aptly pointed out. There are pics of one of the props that survived the impact intact. It is not completely bent up at the tip, just slightly curved, which is telling too. From an article in Esquire magazine, "Just before Fossett took off, Hilton’s staff pilot, a guy named Mike Gilles, carefully went over the preflight and landing procedures with him. As Gilles explained later, Steve Fossett was “not a stick-and-rudder man” and “could get in over his head” in this type of aircraft."

This is very telling, there are also certain skills in flying low and slow in mountaineous locations that not every pilot posseses, even accomplished pilots, especially in unfamiliar a/c and terrain.

Also there is possibly a witness who has stated they were in Yosemite the day of the accident and saw a light a/c flying too low and with engine problems sounding like the engine was missing. Witnesses in aviation have often proven unreliable, but perhaps this one is accurate.

Also, the Fossett family was very involved with Yosemite and the Sierra Club to the extent that Steve Fossett's dad would lead groups for the Sierra Club's outings and excursions. Steve had countless trips to Yosemite and would have had favorite places there, perhaps that is why he was flying low in those particular canyons and mountain ranges, he might have been revisiting, from the air, special spots in the Park.

That is exactly what I would be doing if I were he, since my parents considered Yosemite as sacred ground, and there are certain areas I would make a point of flying over, as low as saftey would allow.

Whether it was spatial disorientation, not knowing how to fly in the mountains, not looking for a downhill way out in the canyons, downdraft rotors, whether he was flying behind the plane-in abilities, had a medical problem, or whether he had an mx issue or engine out, we don't know, it was probably cumilative, as miles and erin here have aptly pointed out.

There are pics of one of the props that survived the impact intact. It is not completely bent up at the tip, just slightly curved, which is telling too.

]]> By: mike http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/02/my-search-for-steve-fossett/#comment-9530 mike Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:09:39 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=1306#comment-9530 As long as everyone is speculating, don't forget to include structural or mechanical faliure along with heart attacks, rotors and aliens. Rumor is that this particular plane was a piece of junk, treated carelessly as a toy , ridden hard and put away wet--in stark contrast to the high end jets that guests rode to the Flying M. We'll never know, unless the engine wasn't making power at impact or a wing or the tail feathers are found miles away from the main crash site. The latter seems unlikely if the angle of impact was horizontal, as the sheriff says it appeared to be. In any case, the logs will be impeccable. Rest In Peace. As long as everyone is speculating, don't forget to include structural or mechanical faliure along with heart attacks, rotors and aliens. Rumor is that this particular plane was a piece of junk, treated carelessly as a toy , ridden hard and put away wet–in stark contrast to the high end jets that guests rode to the Flying M. We'll never know, unless the engine wasn't making power at impact or a wing or the tail feathers are found miles away from the main crash site. The latter seems unlikely if the angle of impact was horizontal, as the sheriff says it appeared to be. In any case, the logs will be impeccable. Rest In Peace.

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