Comments on: Book tracks four decades of energy errors http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/13/book-tracks-four-decades-of-energy-errors/ Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:16:01 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Gholamreza Bagheri Darbandi http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/13/book-tracks-four-decades-of-energy-errors/#comment-32796 Gholamreza Bagheri Darbandi Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:21:13 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=1251#comment-32796 Dear Sir Sub: saving energy electrical CNG compressors Air conditioning split unit our proposal about 100000 qty./year(1-5 HP, horse power) . Please send us your best proposal air conditioning compressors hermetic or semi hermetic which driven by internal combustion engine by city natural gases .Please note that driven by electrical energy is not our proposal. You’re faithfully Carrier city co. G.Bagrei.Darbandi Dear Sir
Sub: saving energy electrical CNG compressors Air conditioning split unit our proposal about 100000 qty./year(1-5 HP, horse power)

. Please send us your best proposal air conditioning compressors hermetic or semi hermetic which driven by internal combustion engine by city natural gases .Please note that driven by electrical energy is not our proposal.

You’re faithfully
Carrier city co.
G.Bagrei.Darbandi

]]> By: minkwikdink http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/13/book-tracks-four-decades-of-energy-errors/#comment-10553 minkwikdink Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:56:25 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=1251#comment-10553 I want to emphasize again that I offer a copy of my book to you totally free of charge, with no strrings attached and no spamming. Just send me an email and I will send you a softcopy of "WIND POWER...IT BLOWS!" Free Book email Winklerorama@gmail.com I want to emphasize again that I offer a copy of my book to you totally free of charge, with no strrings attached and no spamming. Just send me an email and I will send you a softcopy of
"WIND POWER...IT BLOWS!" Free Book email Winklerorama@gmail.com

]]> By: Robert Carlton http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/13/book-tracks-four-decades-of-energy-errors/#comment-10353 Robert Carlton Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:28:56 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=1251#comment-10353 Instead of drilling for more oil which is about to run out, we should drill for the fires that are already burning. Why use funding to lock us into a oil based economy nearly depleted of its resources? Instead, we should realize that geothermal energy is the end product, there is nothing better for the world than this type of energy source. We need to make this change to a Geothermal based economy before oil runs out. Oil will still be needed for some industries and products such as, plastics, lubrication, and asphalt, etc… Geothermal energy benefits include, zero greenhouse gases, zero nuclear contamination, zero nuclear waste, zero spills into the oceans, does not depend on sunny days or windy days, and creates jobs that build the hydrogen infrastructure we will need for the future of energy independence. In fact the only down side I can see with geothermal energy is the remote locations that need to be addressed. It is understandable that remote locations have their challenges,but have their benefits too. But once accessed we are not limited to how many geothermal power plants we install in that location. Some geothermal power plants will be used for supplying electricity to towns and/or cities and others can and should be used to produce hydrogen (which makes remote locations ideal), allot of hydrogen, enough to use for hydrogen burning power plants, transportation, and enough to stockpile and sell as a commodity. We need to do this now, not after the oil runs out. Some other alternatives are fine, like wind, solar, and natural gas are great for a bridge to the future, but they are not the end-product. Natural gas is plentiful but is finite, wind needs windy conditions, solar needs sunny days, but a geothermal power plant just needs to be built. My questions are; Should we? Could we? Will we? Thank you for listening, we need to agree JEV12B Instead of drilling for more oil which is about to run out, we should drill for the fires that are already burning. Why use funding to lock us into a oil based economy nearly depleted of its resources? Instead, we should realize that geothermal energy is the end product, there is nothing better for the world than this type of energy source. We need to make this change to a Geothermal based economy before oil runs out. Oil will still be needed for some industries and products such as, plastics, lubrication, and asphalt, etc…

Geothermal energy benefits include, zero greenhouse gases, zero nuclear contamination, zero nuclear waste, zero spills into the oceans, does not depend on sunny days or windy days, and creates jobs that build the hydrogen infrastructure we will need for the future of energy independence. In fact the only down side I can see with geothermal energy is the remote locations that need to be addressed. It is understandable that remote locations have their challenges,but have their benefits too. But once accessed we are not limited to how many geothermal power plants we install in that location. Some geothermal power plants will be used for supplying electricity to towns and/or cities and others can and should be used to produce hydrogen (which makes remote locations ideal), allot of hydrogen, enough to use for hydrogen burning power plants, transportation, and enough to stockpile and sell as a commodity. We need to do this now, not after the oil runs out. Some other alternatives are fine, like wind, solar, and natural gas are great for a bridge to the future, but they are not the end-product. Natural gas is plentiful but is finite, wind needs windy conditions, solar needs sunny days, but a geothermal power plant just needs to be built.

My questions are; Should we?
Could we?
Will we?

Thank you for listening,
we need to agree JEV12B

]]> By: mike winkler http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/13/book-tracks-four-decades-of-energy-errors/#comment-10021 mike winkler Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:03:11 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=1251#comment-10021 Please look at what idiotic policies prevent any real movement away from fossil fuels. We cannot sustain any progress if all is for naught as son as light brent crude hits $69. Don't blame it on oil companies-blame it on your representatives. They are riding on fool's errand pusuing wind energy and garbage thinking like it. If we spent half as much money investing in new technology as we spend on wind energy subsidies, we might have a chance with cellular ethanol. NG from coal, and capturing passive power BY redesigning our grid and the electric motor, we could shrink CO by unbelievable levels. Forget beating the IC engine, the EPA is already making its' exhaust cleaner than the intake. We are buying lottery tickets when we should be saving, IE, our policies downright suck. http://www.lulu.com/content/1431821 (email me if you want a free copy) winklerorama@gmail.com Please look at what idiotic policies prevent any real movement away from fossil fuels. We cannot sustain any progress if all is for naught as son as light brent crude hits $69. Don't blame it on oil companies-blame it on your representatives. They are riding on fool's errand pusuing wind energy and garbage thinking like it.
If we spent half as much money investing in new technology as we spend on wind energy subsidies, we might have a chance with cellular ethanol. NG from coal, and capturing passive power BY redesigning our grid and the electric motor, we could shrink CO by unbelievable levels. Forget beating the IC engine, the EPA is already making its' exhaust cleaner than the intake.
We are buying lottery tickets when we should be saving, IE, our policies downright suck.
http://www.lulu.com/content/1431821 (email me if you want a free copy)
winklerorama@gmail.com

]]> By: Franko http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/13/book-tracks-four-decades-of-energy-errors/#comment-9895 Franko Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:57:45 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=1251#comment-9895 People vote for cash in their pocket, Pie in the mouth, not holographically projected pie in the sky.. Burn coal now, feed he plants, that feed US People vote for cash in their pocket,
Pie in the mouth, not holographically projected pie in the sky..
Burn coal now, feed he plants, that feed US

]]> By: Aaron http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/13/book-tracks-four-decades-of-energy-errors/#comment-9865 Aaron Sun, 19 Oct 2008 03:05:25 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=1251#comment-9865 Please stop telling me that drilling for more oil in America will solve our problems, much less even make a dent. We consume 25% of the world’s crude oil and we only have 4% of the world’s oil reserve. Maybe someone can help me with the math, but how does maximizing the drilling of 4% help us reach 25%. Now I’m sure that some of you are thinking that our 25% consumption is out of the total oil being drilled and processed throughout the world, not the actual total oil reserve, thus a comparison between the 4% reserve and the 25% consumed is a farce, but actually it is not. If we dry up our 4%, we really will be completely dependent on foreign oil. So enough with the offshore drilling and use or loose the land etc. etc. By the way, we can expect to see a drop in the 25% of consumption, not because we will use less in the coming years, but because the standard of living is constantly increasing worldwide. Thus more countries will be competing as buyers with the US for energy. This is bad, because it will raise cost and produce more polution. So what is the answer? Thomas L. Friedman, a three-time Pulitzer Prize—winner and lets face it a freakin genius, has brought up a very interesting prediction that I happen to agree with. As more and more countries increase their energy consumption, we will find ourselves globally ready for the next economic boom. Energy Technology. If America is not the pioneer and leader in Energy Technology, we will find ourselves no longer “number 1”. We used to be the leader in Car technology and production, as an example, along with the recently experienced IT boom. Energy Technology is going to save this country and we need to get on it right now, and the candidate who has shown the most initiative is Obama. McCain talks mainly about clean coal, nuclear, and offshore drilling, but he has not talked about alternative energy research. Obama has. I’m not saying that energy research wont continue under McCain, but we all know that it wont get properly funded. Part of Obama’s plan to aid education includes those seeking PhDs and Master degrees, you know the dorks we made fun of, but all hope that they’ll save the world instead of making a revenge list. In the past 8 years, research grants have been butchered and research in this country has come to a crawl in comparison to the 90’s. Do you know how much money the average post Dr. makes in this country? Everyone assumes that they go straight to the private sector and make millions, well sorry folks, but that aint true. First they have to work an average of 50 hour work weeks for around $25,000 to $40,000 a year for a few years so that they can get published by leading journals in their respective fields a few times. Oh yeah, did I mention that most of these post docs have school debt to pay off? Lets see, 4 years times undergraduate tuition, plus 2-3 years graduate tuition of Masters, and/or plus 4-6 years graduate tuition for PhD. Lets just say somewhere between 25 and 100k, depending on where they went to school. My point? Education and research is the key to staying on top, and if we want to continue to be “number 1”, well,… you know who to vote for… Please stop telling me that drilling for more oil in America will solve our problems, much less even make a dent. We consume 25% of the world’s crude oil and we only have 4% of the world’s oil reserve. Maybe someone can help me with the math, but how does maximizing the drilling of 4% help us reach 25%. Now I’m sure that some of you are thinking that our 25% consumption is out of the total oil being drilled and processed throughout the world, not the actual total oil reserve, thus a comparison between the 4% reserve and the 25% consumed is a farce, but actually it is not. If we dry up our 4%, we really will be completely dependent on foreign oil. So enough with the offshore drilling and use or loose the land etc. etc. By the way, we can expect to see a drop in the 25% of consumption, not because we will use less in the coming years, but because the standard of living is constantly increasing worldwide. Thus more countries will be competing as buyers with the US for energy. This is bad, because it will raise cost and produce more polution.

So what is the answer?

Thomas L. Friedman, a three-time Pulitzer Prize—winner and lets face it a freakin genius, has brought up a very interesting prediction that I happen to agree with. As more and more countries increase their energy consumption, we will find ourselves globally ready for the next economic boom. Energy Technology. If America is not the pioneer and leader in Energy Technology, we will find ourselves no longer “number 1”. We used to be the leader in Car technology and production, as an example, along with the recently experienced IT boom.

Energy Technology is going to save this country and we need to get on it right now, and the candidate who has shown the most initiative is Obama. McCain talks mainly about clean coal, nuclear, and offshore drilling, but he has not talked about alternative energy research. Obama has. I’m not saying that energy research wont continue under McCain, but we all know that it wont get properly funded. Part of Obama’s plan to aid education includes those seeking PhDs and Master degrees, you know the dorks we made fun of, but all hope that they’ll save the world instead of making a revenge list. In the past 8 years, research grants have been butchered and research in this country has come to a crawl in comparison to the 90’s. Do you know how much money the average post Dr. makes in this country? Everyone assumes that they go straight to the private sector and make millions, well sorry folks, but that aint true. First they have to work an average of 50 hour work weeks for around $25,000 to $40,000 a year for a few years so that they can get published by leading journals in their respective fields a few times. Oh yeah, did I mention that most of these post docs have school debt to pay off? Lets see, 4 years times undergraduate tuition, plus 2-3 years graduate tuition of Masters, and/or plus 4-6 years graduate tuition for PhD. Lets just say somewhere between 25 and 100k, depending on where they went to school.

My point? Education and research is the key to staying on top, and if we want to continue to be “number 1”, well,… you know who to vote for…

]]> By: Franko http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/13/book-tracks-four-decades-of-energy-errors/#comment-9831 Franko Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:27:01 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=1251#comment-9831 Luboš Motl: "Cuba adds 1% to world's oil reserves" http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7675234.stm Just make Cuba democratic, like it ot not, part of Unions are US ? Or would the EcoCommies, (US version), stop the drilling, in a new US state ? And deny the quest for democracy, for the sake of a demogogery ? Then again, Kill 1/2 human , Cuba population, just a drop in the barrel ! Luboš Motl: "Cuba adds 1% to world's oil reserves"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7675234.stm

Just make Cuba democratic, like it ot not, part of Unions are US ?
Or would the EcoCommies, (US version), stop the drilling, in a new US state ?
And deny the quest for democracy, for the sake of a demogogery ?
Then again, Kill 1/2 human , Cuba population, just a drop in the barrel !

]]> By: Franko http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/13/book-tracks-four-decades-of-energy-errors/#comment-9827 Franko Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:01:33 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=1251#comment-9827 "was a very scary but NEAR glimpse into our NEAR future!!" "was" is the key word to focus on. "future" glimpsed, can be avoided. FEMA looks after those who look after themselves. Plan like a squirrel hiding a nut. Not like a Daisy blowing in the wind. "was a very scary but NEAR glimpse into our NEAR future!!"
"was" is the key word to focus on. "future" glimpsed, can be avoided.
FEMA looks after those who look after themselves.
Plan like a squirrel hiding a nut. Not like a Daisy blowing in the wind.

]]> By: Cheryl http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/13/book-tracks-four-decades-of-energy-errors/#comment-9823 Cheryl Fri, 17 Oct 2008 00:40:26 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=1251#comment-9823 Supply and demand. Have any other 'stupid consumers' (what we're treated like) noticed that prices spike near ahem, holidays, spring break, summer vacation...we are told it's an increase in crude oil prices due to.....picture your garbage can and everything it it-that how many excuses we are given....yet the same people drive to the same place everyday-and cannot AFFORD to go anywhere else. The sooner we get off the oil, the sooner some of these other countries will have to deal with our POLITICAL agenda on a level field. Everytime you make a purchase you VOTE with your wallet. something that won't sell will go down in price, then into oblivion. I saw huge lines during the Hurricanes, (Days & days on end) for ANY fuel, including Propane. It looked like a 3rd world country-and that's NOT that far away, it was a very scary but REAL glimpse into our NEAR future!! Supply and demand. Have any other 'stupid consumers' (what we're treated like) noticed that prices spike near ahem, holidays, spring break, summer vacation...we are told it's an increase in crude oil prices due to.....picture your garbage can and everything it it-that how many excuses we are given....yet the same people drive to the same place everyday-and cannot AFFORD to go anywhere else. The sooner we get off the oil, the sooner some of these other countries will have to deal with our POLITICAL agenda on a level field. Everytime you make a purchase you VOTE with your wallet. something that won't sell will go down in price, then into oblivion. I saw huge lines during the Hurricanes, (Days & days on end) for ANY fuel, including Propane. It looked like a 3rd world country-and that's NOT that far away, it was a very scary but REAL glimpse into our NEAR future!!

]]> By: Franko http://scitech.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/13/book-tracks-four-decades-of-energy-errors/#comment-9791 Franko Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:43:37 +0000 http://cnnscitech.wordpress.com/?p=1251#comment-9791 "Untill then I’ll just largely tune you out even though everyone knows we can’t keep this up…." Twice wrong Ignoring the howling of rabid dogs, loudly planning 50% popupation extermination We certainly have kept expanding, devising new survival adaptations Wrong again, the two are not in conflict (effective, EcoBrainwashing) "when you put the health of the earth in the long term against the survival of my children now, I’ll pick my children everytime without any regret or second thougts." "Untill then I’ll just largely tune you out
even though everyone knows we can’t keep this up…."

Twice wrong
Ignoring the howling of rabid dogs, loudly planning 50% popupation extermination
We certainly have kept expanding, devising new survival adaptations

Wrong again, the two are not in conflict (effective, EcoBrainwashing)
"when you put the health of the earth in the long term against the survival of my children now, I’ll pick my children everytime without any regret or second thougts."

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