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June 22, 2009

HP announces printer-computer hybrid

Posted: 01:32 PM ET

HP announced what it calls a "new category" of home printers today.

The Photosmart Premium with TouchSmart Web basically is a fancy-named home printer with a 4.3-inch LCD touch-screen panel attached to the front of it. The printer can connect to the Internet, which HP says has never been done.

It seems like HP is trying to ride the iPhone social phenomenon, both with the design of its new machine and with the fact that the company has partnered with others to develop printer "apps" that help you print coupons or customized news reports. Among HP's first print app partners are USA Today, Google, Web Sudoku and Fandango.

HP says the printer will retail for about $399 and hit stores this fall.

But guess what? Smartphones, netbooks and latptops - even the Kindle e-reader - connect to the Internet, too. Why not make printing off of your phone easier?

This begs another question: Aren't we moving past the printed age? Obama is making health care paper-free. Environmentalists decry paper waste and printer ink pollution. You can scan coupons from a smartphone, airline boarding passes are going electronic and news is rapidly migrating onto the Internet. Why print?

Or, if you do want to print something, why not just print from your computer?

In an interview, HP senior vice president Stephen Nigro acknowledged that printing will eventually go away. In the near term, however, home printing is expected to grow, he said.

"We look at it as an evolution, but we don’t see printing going away for some time," added Nigro, who said the Web-enabled printer is targeted at tech-savvy consumers.

He touted the new printer as a "big deal," saying it brings "the printing experience into the Internet and Web-connected age."

What do you think: Is this really a big deal or just corporate hype? For 400 bucks, would you buy one?

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Mary   June 22nd, 2009 1:55 pm ET

I am a very techy person , I have two laptops, a pc, a mini, an ipod touch and a window mobile device. I would absolutely NOT buy this product. Instead of making the printer get on the internet, I would be interested in a device that made printing from several devices in the home easier and cheaper, without having to purchase an expensive networked printer.


Arun   June 22nd, 2009 2:15 pm ET

I, personally, would not purchase this product. In this age of smart phones and net books, many prefer to carry digital images and videos with them all the time. It is so much easier now a days to share your pictures and videos with friends and families. Even if you have to print out a family portrait or the beautiful snap from your vacation, you can always get it done cheap and fast.


USB   June 22nd, 2009 2:20 pm ET

I for one can't find any reason to buy this...All of us who need a printer will have a computer for sure, so what's the deal in having the printer connected to the internet? On the other hand, give me a Laptop or PC that can also print & I might be willing to spend the extra bucks......


Peter   June 22nd, 2009 2:33 pm ET

I have thousands of pics stored on my PC . .and print them all via snapfish. Do not need this product or any picture printer for that matter


Mike   June 22nd, 2009 2:37 pm ET

As a retail electronics supervisor, I can safely say there's very little market for this. It's similar to the HP TouchSmart computers. It's a gimmick and nothing more and the 1500 dollar price tag for that is completely unjustified. Same deal with this. No one's going to spend 400 bucks on a printer unless they're in some kind of business environment and even then they don't need all this extra junk, they want it to print a lot for little cost, copy, scan and fax and that's it. The proof of concept is nice but the price tag is ridiculous.


Mike   June 22nd, 2009 2:48 pm ET

I think this is a great idea! We all know that all of our devices have different and proprietary operating systems. using the web ties them together without have to beg every company to open there doors. I applaud HP in finding a work around. Now for the price: maybe 200.. but not 400!


Bart   June 22nd, 2009 2:52 pm ET

Mary, you can print from many devices without expensive equipment. My printer is attached to my desktop. I then go into windows and share the printer. Now through my wireless router (used with my dsl connection) I can print from my laptop to that printer (which is not a network printer, just a cheap USB printer). The only caveat is that the desktop has to be turned on in order to print.


ITGuy   June 22nd, 2009 3:08 pm ET

Personally, I think this is just corporate hype. If you want to print something, who wants to stare at a tiny screen with most likely an inadequate interface to efficiently navigate to a desired printable item? Granted, if you know what you are looking for to print, then I guess this would be a time saver, but who really knows EXACTLY what they want to print every time they head to a printer? I just think its an expensive toy that only people who want it as a novelty will purchase.

@Mary

This shouldn't come off as rude or anything, but have you tried sharing your current printer(s)?

I would assume that with all of the gadgets you have between PC's, laptops, and other networkable items, that you have some sort of network set up that allows all these to talk to one another. So, much like sharing files/folders across your network, you can also share other devices, such as printers. The only downside is that whichever computer the printer is connected to must remain on in order to print. But that is my solution to being able to print from two laptops and a PC, as well as give anyone else who uses my home network the ability to use my printer without a hassle. Maybe you've already tried this... just a suggestion...


Nookleerman   June 22nd, 2009 3:11 pm ET

I would love to give this to my grandmother. She loathes technology and the internet, but there is so much on there that could improve her quality of life. I know if there was an easy way to get to coupons and airline tickets she would use it. Bravo, HP.

As an aside, you might want to fix the error in your first paragraph, last sentence:

"The printer can connect to the Internet, which HP says never been done."

Needs a "has" in there somewhere.


DORE   June 22nd, 2009 3:16 pm ET

If you live in a studio apt, and dont yet have a printer – and all you do is check email – why not.

=)


Anthony   June 22nd, 2009 3:36 pm ET

So HP is making the Polaroid camera of computers. It doesn't take a genius to realize this is going to crash and burn. HP seems more focused on the novelty of the technology than on on making it useful.


Austin   June 22nd, 2009 3:54 pm ET

I agree, Mary. If you're more inclined to use a desktop platform, you already have a printer. If you're using a laptop, you already understand how to make printing possible. This just seems to be a clunky, misguided, and overall, unneccesary machine.


David K   June 22nd, 2009 3:58 pm ET

The most inexpensive and best home printing solution from multiple devices is to buy an older HP Laserjet 4000, 4050 or 4100, with a Jetdirect card, which allows Ethernet between your router and the printer. You can find them for $75 -$150 in fine condition, with as much as 80% life left before a new drum is needed (200,000 copies). Refitting a 4000 series printer without a Jetdirect card takes about $20 and 5 minutes. These printers are the ubiqutious off white square shaped models, found in almost every office. Even though they be as much as 12 years old, that have the reliability that Maytag should be envious of. They print 17 ppm, a cartridge is rated for 10,000 copies, and only costs $40 reloaded or about $135 new. Compare that to inkjet cartridges, which are good for 200 pages if you are lucky. HP 4000's standby mode power consumption is low at about 36 watts. Duplexers are available for those wanting to save trees.


Bryan C.   June 22nd, 2009 4:10 pm ET

I think I can hear Steve Jobs laughing at Hewlett Packard. What a waste of what could of been stock holders dividends.


Sheep   June 22nd, 2009 4:20 pm ET

Mary: Try creating a workgroup with all your computers. Then you can printer to any printer hooked up to a computer that is on that workgroup. Works with any printer and you don't need to buy an expensive network printer.


Jeff   June 22nd, 2009 4:25 pm ET

Mary, you realize you can simply create a home network, place the printer (any printer) on the network and print to it from any computer? It is simple and free.


Dylan Kelcher   June 22nd, 2009 4:34 pm ET

It's corporate hype, and useless. Just like the iPhone.


Clay   June 22nd, 2009 5:14 pm ET

pointless except for those who must have every new gadget possible.


Mike   June 22nd, 2009 5:21 pm ET

This is just corporate hype trying to cash in on the tech wave. Instead of making something nobody needs. Defiantely would not buy one ever.


John   June 22nd, 2009 5:23 pm ET

I'm a very techy person too. I think for $400 this would be a waste of money for me. I already have a computer that I can use to digitally manipulate, send, or use to save my digital photos. I can, for about 50 cents each, make my own prints at a local photo place.


Charles   June 22nd, 2009 5:57 pm ET

Not seeing the point here. What possible difference could it make if you download directly to the printer from the internet or use the computer to download and print from there? I disagree that this is a "big deal." In fact, it's a largely meaningless juxtaposition of technologies.

Nigro's reference to evolution is spot on... as long as we remember that the majority of mutations die off rather than becoming the prototype for a new species. This technological combination is about as useful as being born with fingers growing from your elbow.


drew   June 22nd, 2009 6:12 pm ET

My printer is by no means high-tech and it sure didn't cost me a lot of money. I just made sure it had an ethernet connection and I threw it next to my router and connected the two. I can print from anything that's on my local network. Hell, I could run down the street with my ipod and print my latest bank statement. This device is worthless. Who in their right mind would buy this?

$5 will buy you a decent sized thumb drive these days. If something is really important enough to print it, why not just save it to that and hook it up to your computer that's connected to your $25 printer.

$400, lol.


Juan   June 22nd, 2009 6:24 pm ET

Looks pretty and everything but for $400 I would seriously just pass the last time I had to print something was 2 years ago before our college had Citrix fully functional and mostly bug free.


Josh   June 22nd, 2009 6:34 pm ET

Have you considered just attaching it your PC and choosing to share the printer out?


Shane   June 22nd, 2009 6:44 pm ET

As an IT Professional with every networked gadget known to man I agree with Mary... Why do we need a printer that connects to the internet to print from a computer that also connects to the internet? Isn't that just creating a middle man... I would never use such a printer. I second the fact that we need to make printing from our multimedia devices easier. I want to be able to walk into my house and print from my Blackberry wirelessly without having to setup a wireless maze of connectivity and infratructure.


Andrew   June 22nd, 2009 7:05 pm ET

Definately not worth it. Basically just wasting your money.


Erik   June 22nd, 2009 7:55 pm ET

I have been in the tech arena since the early 1980s and can not fathom purchasing this unit... as Mary pointed out, why not make a device that can print from other WIFI and Bluetooth enabled devices in the house... or even make cost per print cheaper? Nobody needs a printer that can connect to the Internet.

In my view, we now live in a "disposable printer" era, where the cost of replacing your ink is more expensive than the cost of an entry level printer... for our kids, we purchase the $39 HP inkjets, then when the ink runs out... instead of spending between $40 and $70 to replace the ink... we just purchase a new printer and donate the old one to Goodwill... So YES developing technology to reduce the cost of printer supplies would be much more preferable than non-viable bells and whistles such as this...

I am finding that myself and most of my colleagues and clients are going mostly paperless, and rely on printers more for photos than documents. So I see the decline in printer demand progressing at an exponential pace. In less than ten years, printers aw we know it they will be relegated to simple reproduction and photo printing. This is not a paradigm shift, rather an evolution of consumers needs as we move farther into the digital generation.

If companies such as HP remain in denial of this fact, they will be left behind.


Bill   June 22nd, 2009 8:12 pm ET

No, I would not buy one. If the printer breaks down, you have a $400 pile of junk. And we all know that most printers don't last as long as most computers. It's an idea whose time has gone.


Scott   June 22nd, 2009 10:41 pm ET

HOW ABOUT CHEAPER INK HP !!!!!


Mark   June 22nd, 2009 10:41 pm ET

This device doesn't make much sense to me. They should make printing from phones easier. There are apps for the iPhone to print but it should be much easier than that (and free, too). Plus IMO, this printer isn't worth $400. It doesn't even have an ADF (automatic document feeder). I do agree, however, that home printing will spike, what with people printing photos at home instead of going to have them printed at a photo lab.


chain-IT   June 22nd, 2009 11:58 pm ET

One word for this product. FLOP..... HP needs to focus on better products and innovations in Technology, if they want to take out Dell.


Stronze   June 23rd, 2009 12:20 am ET

i agree with mary,

i dont need a printer to go online.
id rather have a smaller printer and one that is easier to work with.(linux)

once i get an ereader, only reason i would need a printer is for work to print paperwork to turn in.
only thing i use print out for is when i cant use my laptop but need info such as driving directions or when im tweeking my laptop.


Chris   June 23rd, 2009 1:55 am ET

I agree with Mary, a printer just needs to print paper, if you have a printer than you must have a computer; therefore what good does a computer/printer hybrid do you? I imagine it is only a matter of time before most bluetooth phones/iPods can link to most printers. The only useful application for a device like this would maybe be for at information desks in public buildings such as travel stations and libraries. But for the average consumer? For $400 you could get a very nice all-in-one with change to spare.
They should put their money into researching more efficient printing technology; and the government should create stricter requirements for environmentally responsible industry practices and products. Technology can give us very useful tools, this is NOT one of them.


Victor Rivero   June 23rd, 2009 2:59 am ET

I guess your not that tech. Products do exist, their called print servers or wireless print servers. You can also set up a LAN in your house through your router but the computer where the printer is connected would need to be on.


Eric   June 23rd, 2009 3:00 am ET

Funny, I thought Canon had this first when they had a Laptop with built in printer back in the '93. It was called the NoteJet.

Nice to see HP has innovated this historical concept again.


Jay   June 23rd, 2009 5:30 am ET

I'm a network admin and let me tell you, DONT buy anything from HP! Their technical support and help desk is a joke. All calls get wired to INDIA and good luck being on the phone for a few hours getting bounced around. Products from HP has changed a lot through the years, most of their products are overpriced or half decent. I would go with Canon or Lexmark!


Tom   June 23rd, 2009 5:51 am ET

Oh boy! It can talk to my internet connected refrigerator and print pictures of food I'm out of!


Sean   June 23rd, 2009 6:05 am ET

Well, I have a need to have a couple of remote printers, since I send material to offices in different counties. I would prefer not to e-mail, because I cannot have these documents edited/modified once they are recieved. Faxing can be slow. A remote printer connected to the Web is a good solution.


Winston   June 23rd, 2009 6:26 am ET

We are a very tech savvy household with an iMac, a laptop, a netbook and smartphones. I can see no purpose for this printer at any price. Years ago we stopped printing pics in house because they lacked any real quality and cost way too much. We can send through email any pics we want prints of to the Wal***** types stores and get a great print for almost no money. We own a printer but only for printing coupons or documents or envelopes. I expect home printing to disappear in the next 8-10 years. No, I would not buy one.


Tom   June 23rd, 2009 6:30 am ET

I love technology and gadgets... and I can not ever see me buying such a thing. If this is the direction that HP is working towards, they might as well bed over and kiss their butts goodbye...


Jacie   June 23rd, 2009 7:00 am ET

For $129 you can buy an HP wireless computer that will network to every pc or device with a wireless card in your home . . .


The Old Guy   June 23rd, 2009 7:32 am ET

So now we're getting an easier way to print more? Aren't these the same people who told us that the PC generation was going to be paper-free? Maybe I'm the only one on here old enough to remember those predictions.


Bob Haufe   June 23rd, 2009 7:38 am ET

With an internet connected printer, you could print anywhere in the world and that printer needs no PC or local network. I can think of many fax like applications. It will sell. But there is not much of a home market. WE won't be buying this printer at $400 just to get free print cartridges. Keep in mind, 90% of these gadgets are just that.


oral seymour   June 23rd, 2009 7:51 am ET

I can by an HP printer, scanner, copier and fax, with wireless and LAN networking for about 150. Why would I buy this? I read USA Today, Google, Web Sudoku and Fandango on my any one of my PCs. Wouldn't it be easier to just hit print from the PC instead of going to the printer and its small lcd to navigate and print content?


oral seymour   June 23rd, 2009 7:54 am ET

To Sean who posted about needing to print in another country, you can already do that, all it takes it a little work to forward some ports and you can send a pdf that is protected from editing.


Leonard   June 23rd, 2009 8:00 am ET

I thought this was gonna be a true hybrid. A PC with an embedded printer. Oh well.


TJ   June 23rd, 2009 8:08 am ET

And we wonder why companies fail?
This is corporate hype...and misguided.
No. I would absolutely not buy this.
But I'm not sure I'm ever going to buy another printer anyway.


John   June 23rd, 2009 8:11 am ET

As an HP printer dealer for the past 15 years I can not imagine how anyone could come up with such a horrible idea and keep their job.

An inkjet printer last at about 2 years and is usually to expensive to repair. Why attach it to a device that is far more reliable? It is like offering a brand new car with tires you cannot replace.

HP has dropped the majority of its service providers in an attempt to enter the service market themselves. The result is increased repair cost, and very poor level of service. When someone tries to sell you an HP carepack, RUN! One more in a long string of bad decisions by Hewlett Packard.


gruven   June 23rd, 2009 8:15 am ET

That is a very big paper weight! Need I say more?

Now they find a way to stick a B&W printer in my HP laptop without adding too much bulk and they're in biz!


wmt   June 23rd, 2009 8:22 am ET

C'mon people! This compliments the Internet connected refrigerator quite nicely.


Terry   June 23rd, 2009 8:26 am ET

No, I would NOT buy this printer. It took me a long time to wean myself off of printers and printer companies that sold me ten cents worth of ink for forty-five dollars. I have a simple laser printer now for my text documents, any other printing I might need to do can be done at my local Kinko's or even the corner drug store.

Ink jet printers are a huge consumer ripoff and this one seems lamer than most.


AG   June 23rd, 2009 8:31 am ET

The short answer is no. This is just another printer in the jungle of printers and all-in-one machines. Using any wireless printer at less than half the price, I can print from my laptop. Mostly the printing is black and white. Color printing is rare and photo printing is zero. The HP cartridges are way too expensive to do color/photo printing. Why do I need this printer???


jim   June 23rd, 2009 8:38 am ET

Now if it only had connections for the keyboard and monitor (wireless or not) ...


ds   June 23rd, 2009 8:45 am ET

While an interesting consept. There are statments made above that many of us already have a home network and 1 printer hooked up to that network.
While there are some senior citizens that would love to "surf & a easier way to just print emails or photos " there are already internet appliances that fill that need, with a much smaller space saving design. For these seniors afraid of a computer do not seem so afraid of an internet device. Also depending on the market the small lcd screen would be harder for older to people to use and see.
I would love to see more designs come out for an internet device /printer that would be useful as far as form and function for our senior market, that will not touch a pc at this point.


Ash   June 23rd, 2009 8:46 am ET

This is reverse thinking. Printing is an auxiliary function. Instead comeup with a computer that can also print


Carrie   June 23rd, 2009 9:02 am ET

I'd rather buy a computer-printer all in one. Like, one of those all-in-one computers (like an iMac or something) that can also print from within the computer. That'd be pretty cool.


Jack   June 23rd, 2009 9:05 am ET

TO SEAN: You can by Adobe Acrobat Professional for the same $400.00; Convert your documents to .PDF format; then email them. This will protect the content, save yourself the travel expense and time, and also alleviate the hassle of lugging this bulky printer around. In short: there are already many other ways to solve the issues we have. AND, why would "anyone" want to surf the web on a printer? SECONDLY; I have also had the same experience with HP support. I was bounced around 13 times before I gave up. I will never buy another HP product again. And, I would never buy an inkjet printer for $400.00 just so that I could surf the web on it. What a really dumb idea!


c   June 23rd, 2009 9:11 am ET

I can see the use of it if your computer is not connected to a printer. I dont see a market for this though, since printers usually come with computers. This may work in a small office that is too cheap to connect their computers to a printer.


Richard   June 23rd, 2009 9:13 am ET

Has anyone thought of the folks who use facebook etc?
They may only use their computers for connecting to their social networks and like to print off a pic or two of friends etc.
This device might be the answer to that scenario
Most companies do a little research before launching new products, I 'd assume HP did that. Rather than decry the machine as no good, exercise a little imagination and you could find uses for it.
Then weigh it up after exercising your brain, instead of all the knee jerk reactions I have read. If after that you still find it wanting, fair enough, lets have some thoughtful debate?


ccd   June 23rd, 2009 9:16 am ET

Hmm. A device that makes it less of a hassle to print stuff just because it happens to be in front of you. Mmmmm ink sales.


Scott   June 23rd, 2009 9:19 am ET

Not for me! I do a lot of printing – but I gather all my information into nice formulated docs (like in Apple Pages/MS-Word, OneNote, CP Notebook, PDF – or something along these lines). Would be better to me would be a more economical way to setup wireless & hardwired color laser printing from all my devices.

Dell Work computer – does not have wireless, it is hard wired – printer is USB.

Macbook – wireless

Mac Mini – wireless

Printing from my iphone? – oh a dream come true.

Tablet Notebook – wireless.

Give me a nice affordable color laser printer that will print from every one of these devices. Also could you image downloading a 3 meg PDF and then waiting for it to print? what would the point be? I download a PDF and only print the pages I need – but then I have it on my computer should I need to go back to it.

I do not see the point of this printer – a waste of $400


Will   June 23rd, 2009 9:21 am ET

Instead of a printer that connects to the internet, I would prefer to see a slightly bulkier laptop that had a printer built in. It seems to me that would be much more useful.


Dan Klemann   June 23rd, 2009 9:27 am ET

I have been in the information technology industry for 30 years. You would not believe the printers I have worked with. Some of them 100 times the size of the new HP printer. But I would not buy one. Basically the only time I print anything is when a company or someone does not have web posting or email access. Everyone needs email not a new printer. Any document today can either be emailed or posted to the internet on a web or file storage site. That includes pictures, slide shows, documents of any type. We don't need printers anymore. We need more companies and people to use the internet the way it can be used.


James   June 23rd, 2009 9:30 am ET

Might be novel, but the feature wouldn't compel me to drop $400 on another inkjet with $50 cartridges...

Also consider that the typical all-in-one printer (color inkjet, scanner, fax) with a built-in network print server (wired & wireless) can be found for $150 (or less). Add to that a netbook (infinitely more usable and portable than this device) which will typically run around $300. You're looking at a much more "useful" and even "usable" platform for around the same price.

As to the "printing will eventually go away", that theory caused Xerox to found PARC in the 60's due to the fear that computers would create the "paperless office" (which, of course, would terrify Xerox). That didn't happen. Paper just moved from an archive to a transitory medium.

Even with the advent of PDAs and NetBooks, you just can't fold one of them up and stick it in your pocket the way you can paper. We'll continue printing for a long time.


Hai Nguyen   June 23rd, 2009 9:32 am ET

I have 7 laptops and 3 desktops at my home. At work I work on multi-million dollar network devices and have multiple laptops I use for work. I also own a Blackberry, iphone 3GS and every room in my house has 2 network jacks and pretty much every room even my bathroom has an LCD TV, yes, even my garage has an LCD too.

With this being said, you can see I would spend the big bucks on gadgets but I would never buy this. I don't see it being useful. Furthermore, I don't think printers will ever go away, will be used less, certainly, but wouldn't go away.


Fred Scheu   June 23rd, 2009 9:52 am ET

I think this is a great idea. I would take this concept one step further and make this type of printer the primary interface between the internet and my TV.


Phil   June 23rd, 2009 10:06 am ET

New Printer virus, spy-ware, adware & mal-ware on the way to a printer near you.

So now you'll need to by protection for the printer too.


Kevin   June 23rd, 2009 10:10 am ET

The reason why mobile devices that can connect to the internet are so valuable is because they are Mobile. It is for that reason that they have done so well. Your computer is better than your phone, but you can't walk around with your computer. It is for this same reason that this printer will fail massively. You can't walk around with your printer in tow to connect to the internet, therefore its location will be relatively static. You know what is also relatively stationary? Your computer! Which will be much more powerful and overall more useful than your printer.

How could anyone have thought that creating this with a price point of $400.00 was a good idea? I got (what I feel) is an awesome printer/scanner for $200.00 and even that is not really justified by the amount I actually use it.

huge mistake HP.


Pat   June 23rd, 2009 10:10 am ET

I have a color inkjet printer right now. It's expensive to print black and white or color documents with an inkjet printer, so we try to avoid printing documents with that printer.

What is really needed is an inexpensive printer that can be connected to a home network through a router, and which uses ink that isn't in an expensive inkjet cartridge. A home printer doesn't need to print messages that come over the Internet. In fact, for most home users the printer should block documents/junk mail from the Internet. Fax machines in offices are already plagued with junk documents, and most junk mail through the Internet is just trashed/recycled.

David K is right in that most printed documents are black and white, and black toner is cheap. There will be some people that want color prints made on a laser printer, though.


Mike   June 23rd, 2009 10:21 am ET

It seems to me that HP has come full circle. From building and inovating great printers that lasted forever and worked better than the competition, to building cheap junk that intentionally breaks or costs much more to operate than it needs to, and now finally trying to sell gimicks that no reasonable person would ever need or desire. If I still had HP stock I would dump it as fast as possible, because these people are completely out of touch with reality and have gone from a "go-to" brand like sony to a must avoid.


Rich   June 23rd, 2009 12:56 pm ET

Seems like a waste of development to me. I wonder why HP would green light this product. It was probably some exec's pet project. To the user that wanted an easier way to send print jobs to printers- try downloading Apple's Bonjour tool. Simple and easy way to manage your networked printers.


Nick   June 23rd, 2009 12:56 pm ET

First, as a college student, facebooker, twitterer, picture freak, etc. this seems like it would be a waste of money. But no one has played with the interface on the printer yet. It may be convenient for the people, like my mom, who pretty much only print pictures and check email on their computers.

With that said I agree with Will. Take something the size of the MacBook Air (make it cheaper first) and put a printer/copier in it. All the buttons (B & W, color, copy) of a normal printer won't be needed, they could be in a program on the computer. The printer could be front/back loaded for the paper. All you would need to get is printer paper. And who knows, maybe some cool paper pocket/holder could be conveniently placed in or on the back of the screen to hold a couple sheets of paper for out-and-about printing.


Steven Cravis   June 23rd, 2009 7:53 pm ET

We need to move to paperless... everything.


Snugglicious Fragglejons   June 24th, 2009 4:02 am ET

The price is to be expected. The price starts out high to reach a demographic that can afford it. I am not in that demographic. Furthermore, you will see price drop quickly as competition increases and supply far out weighs demand. I would expect it to drop to $200 in no time. I will never be buying one because I, like most of us, have no need for my printer to go on the Internet. I hardly print as it is.


David Lewis   June 24th, 2009 5:51 am ET

Great, so instead of making throw away cheap printers and expensive ink cartridges, they now offer an expensive printer and overpriced ink cartridges. The quality of printers won't improve so all I see is an expensive piece of plastic junk being offered here.

I already try to use my printer as rarely as possible because of absorbant ink costs. Do you think I will waste ink on printing insignificant things? Web coupons, are you kidding me? Everyone knows they really don't save any money.

Plus, why would I want a social printer that is stationary? Do they not understand the value of being mobile? What would the printer offer better than the computer attached to it, 5 feet away?!?!?!?

If they want to make a popular printer and feed the TRUE DESIRE of consumers, make a printer that is reliable, cheap, and uses an extremely inexpensive ink system. Then make the interface removable so that the touch pad can be a mobile multimedia device. OR simply include an interface to connect mobile devices that already exist.

Are tech manufacturers out of touch with consumers or is it just me? This is a stupid idea and the marketting team that supported this should be fired.

The company can disagree with my opninion but they can't force me to buy it or anyone else, so who wins in the end?


Tim S Tampa   June 24th, 2009 9:19 am ET

Why would anyone ever buy this thing?


Ravi   June 25th, 2009 2:39 am ET

Hi all,

I work on this product at HP BTW🙂
I see you all have a lot of opinions and it's a great discussion to have. Every customer has different needs and although this product isn't for everyone, our research shows that a lot of consumers are looking for devices with convenience and simplicity like this. Currently about 50% or so of the printing is coming from web content and we expect this to grow. Will printing go away some day? May be, but not in our lifetime I hope. An interesting statistic: Google mentioned that about 30% of 100M customers visiting their maps site print a map every week. Hard to believe this number in a digital society flooded with Map Apps on Smart Phones and GPSs etc , but true. Printing as we have experienced (documents on the pc, reference materials etc) might go away some day, but we are seeing new needs to print. Printing shared photos from social networks and printing photos/docs from iPhone are a couple examples. You will be surprised to see how many print related apps are available on the App store.
I understand that you are also reacting to the $399 price tag. We are actually replacing an existing high end All-in-one printer in the market with the same price tag and providing the direct-web printing capability to make the product more relevant in a web connected world. We are certainly expecting for this price tag to come down overtime and be more affordable. It has all the features of our high-end Photosmart All-in-Ones, but also can be customized with web-based applications that our partners have created and that will be created in the future by others. With the open API platform we are allowing anyone to create new apps. We are not charging any extra for these apps.
We will continue to make printing easy to do from PCs, Note books, Net books, Smart phones and mobile devices as well. We already have announced some solutions in this space (iPrint Photo, Blackberry cloud print). We want to provide solutions that meet customer needs. If those needs are met best through smart phone print applications and printing from PC, we have those solutions and are continuing to innovate in this space. This new printer provides more choice to the customers who have busy life styles and appreciate quick prints from their favorite web content such as recipes, coupons, maps etc without dealing with another device.


Forist   June 25th, 2009 9:44 am ET

This printer is just more bells and whistles an dif you're into that kind of thing buy it. Personally, my PC gives me the information I need and allow sme to print it. If HP really wants to get hype find a way to make home printing less expensive. The cost of HP inks is outragous and the one reason I recently purchased a Kodak printer. To be honest however, the quality of pictures from my HP printer is better but I find no difference in text output. MAKE IT CHEAPER TO PRINT AND THEY WILL COME!


Paul   June 25th, 2009 3:23 pm ET

Lets face it, somebody had a job to do and did it. Someone designed
the Newton and now we have the iphone. Take a pill folks.


leonremi   June 25th, 2009 3:46 pm ET

of course not. I would never buy such a monstrosity...if only because I usually print from a computer and I would rather watch a 19 inch flat panel lcd in front of me rather than a 4 inch mini screen probably located somewhere under my desk....this is the most idiotic product i've seen in a loooong time!


Dan   June 25th, 2009 6:29 pm ET

So basically it is an iPhone that is too big to carry with you and has to be plugged in? Or a computer with a really small screen and no keyboard and a built in printer? What is the point?

Much more useful is a networked printer. Print from any computer in the house. Get a cheap user computer for $100 if you don't have one. Could even print from an iPhone if setup right.


SomeGuy   July 1st, 2009 8:45 am ET

Like most people, I would not buy this. Maybe in the future sometime it will catch on but I really don't see how. Why would I go pay $400 for a printer because you can browse the web on a tiny screen with it? Technically inclined people will not buy this because it's useless and non-technically inclined people will not buy it because it will be hard to navigate anything with that small screen and it just makes the printer more complicated.


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