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August 19, 2009

Sony to launch slimmer PS3 with lower price

Posted: 09:32 AM ET

Sony has officially confirmed rumors surrounding the PlayStation 3 game console. In a video posted on the PlayStation Blog SCEA President and CEO Jack Tretton announced a new slimmer PS3 will be available September 1st. In addition, all PS3 consoles got a $100 price cut today, dropping the cost to an enticing $299.

Engadget received an early look at the new PlayStation 3 Slim and provides a great hands-on gallery.

Price has always been an obstacle preventing the widespread adoption of the PS3. Just last week Ars Technica criticized the cost of the console:

In many cases, price is the most important factor, and while Blu-ray and wireless may be nice, they're not always enough to convince a parent or grandparent to spend $200 extra dollars in the store. Right now, price is everything, and no checklist will change that.

The secret? Just lower the damn price.

With hot titles such as God of War 3 and Final Fantasy XIII on the horizon and a $100 price cut, the PlayStation 3 may finally be a true competitor in the console wars.

Will a $299 feature-rich PS3 be able to dethrone the value-priced Nintendo Wii ($250) or challenge Microsoft's Xbox 360 Pro ($299)?

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Dave   August 19th, 2009 9:59 am ET

I think the PS3 will get a boost out of this. It offers more stability than the XBOX360, which is caused by the common RRoD error. It also offers better graphics and games compared to the the Wii. The main barrier has always been price. The new lower cost will open the floodgates. Also the PS3 hasn't been plagued by hacks. Developers are still confident with the PS3 and will keep making games. The PS3 can now compete and has a steady supply of games. However, expect to see a price drop on other consoles. The console war is not over by a long shot.


SorensiC   August 19th, 2009 10:20 am ET

They're going to start giving away that piece of garbage just to start selling games... The wars are over.. Wii obvious winner for the kids, 360 for the adults...


Terry   August 19th, 2009 10:34 am ET

A major prob for PS3 is in the exclusive games, and now that Hideo Kajomi has announced MGS for the Xbox that has put another dagger in the heart of Sony, I mean this guy basically cemented the playstation into what it is now! so this transition into XBox is equal to treason lol! Sony must create or sign more contracts for exclusive titles, for example how many people know that there is a college football game featuring nothing but the "black" colleges? See what I mean? I can go to GameStop and not be surprise by what I see on the PS3 section but if I go to the XBox side my eyebrows rise a lil bit, but im just to much of a Playstation guy to turn my back on them :)

*Unless XBox make a controller thats much more hand friendly, that's major to me and that's where the PS3 rules over XBox.


John   August 19th, 2009 10:39 am ET

They would have to give it away for me to get one, sorry 300 bucks for it and then 30 to 50 bucks each for games. I am glad my boys like baseball, football, soccer and swimming. Hey and they are not fat obese disgusting looking kids......imagine that.


Jason   August 19th, 2009 10:40 am ET

This is basically the PS3's re-launch at the great price point of $300. It took them 3 years but I think Sony has finally taken a great step to be competitive in this console generation. No longer will Sony be touted for having an over priced $400, $500, or $600 console.

Microsoft continues to offer competitive price slashes and has now lowered the price of their Xbox 360 Elite model to equal the PS3 Slim’s price of $300. It also packs a 120GB hard drive and HD graphics, minus the Blu-ray player of course. Yes, the Xbox 360 has been plagued with hardware issues but continues refine their consoles to prevent further issues. Xbox 360 consoles in 2009 are much better then original units from 2005.

While the Nintendo Wii posted large sales its stance in the console race is poor. $250 is still expensive for a console without a hard drive, no HD, and poor online support. Compared to the Xbox 360’s Arcade model at $200, Nintendo needs lower the Wii’s price to $200 and update the pack in software.


Yuji   August 19th, 2009 10:53 am ET

Actually lot of adult casual gamers have purchased the Wii and there are a lot more casual gamers than hardcore gamers out there. I also see a value in getting a PS3 for its media center aspect. Blu-ray and the ability to be a DLNA client is nice. The two things that XBox has for it is good amount of exclusive titles and Netflix streaming.


Joshua   August 19th, 2009 10:53 am ET

In response to Dave, you say "plagued by hacks" in reference to the XBOX as if it were a bad thing...people wouldn't hack a piece of equipment if they didn't like the hardware. Hacks are essientially customizations, and a small but VERY influential group of gamers love to customize.

Anyway, from a marketing perspective, the price drop is too little too late. They should have saved the price cut for the PS4.


Chris   August 19th, 2009 10:54 am ET

I got one in 2007 when I purchased an HDTV and my old PS2 was on its last legs. A few of my buddies were waiting for the redesign, like they did with PS2 and PS1. Sony has given me some good stuff while I've been waiting for Twisted Metal, God of War, Gran Turismo, and ICO. Its way too late for them to be competitive, but I think that they will increase their user base enough to ensure that PS3 continues to get the Call of Duties, Resident Evils, and Grand Theft Autos of the gaming world.


Eric   August 19th, 2009 11:06 am ET

The price cut will make the PS3 open for alot more people who thought it was over priced (which it was). The system is by far the best console out there, the graphics are better, the proformance is better and over all game selection is better, I see this making the PS3 alot more marketable every more so because of the games that are comming out for it as mentioned in the artical.


j   August 19th, 2009 11:19 am ET

By the end of this cycle Sony will be in the number two spot. They've sold 23 million PS3s at a ridiculously high price, and were even late to the game by a year. MSFT had a year head start, a cheaper console and has only sold 7 million more units than Sony. MSFT should have at least twice the install at this point given their release date and cheaper price. The gap is shrinking and this new system/price drop will make it only happen faster.


MontanaBanana   August 19th, 2009 11:25 am ET

"In addition, all PS3 consoles got a $100 price cut today, dropping the cost to an enticing $299."

This is unconfirmed and false info if you ask me. If that is true, then that would mean the 40GB PS3 should be $199 and I haven't seen anyone selling it for that much.

Right now Sony has 2 consoles, one for $300 and one for $400. So to say the PS3 Slim is a hundred bucks less is extremely misleading. There is already a $300 PS3 available, it's just after Sept 1 it's going to have a new body and 3x more hard drive space.

From other articles I read, the prices wouldn't drop on the current system, but they would try to sell out at normal price until Sept 1.

But I'm sorry, if I'm not willing to drop $300 on a PS3 now... how does tripling the storage suddenly make me want to buy it now? it doesn't, because its not the technical specs that keep me from considering a PS3, it's that $300 tag. Xbox has options, from $179 to $399. Well I want Sony to have a $200 option too and they do not. I am more than willing to give up some features (like a smaller a hard drive) for a $200 PS3.

Xbox 360 fans have proven that as frustrating and embarassing the Red Ring of Death issue is, as long as MS takes care of it, we're willing to look over it. I've actually had the Red Rings issues THREE times over 2 consoles yet and I'm still Xbox fan through and through. I would rather buy ANOTHER Xbox 360 for $179 rather than drop $300 on a PS3.

And I'm no hater, I would love to own a PS3 (mostly for the blu-ray player), but Xbox is my primary console and it makes no sense to spend more money on what would essentially be my 2ndary console/dedicated blu-ray player.


Aaron   August 19th, 2009 11:29 am ET

I bought a PS3 for $399 and it's worth every penny. The Blu-Ray player aone makes it worth it. Combine that with the superior graphics over any other system and you have the true King.

Sales make no difference, the PS3 is by far and away the best console and has been since day 1.


Jenn   August 19th, 2009 11:48 am ET

I love my PS3. The blue ray is the main reason I got it. I play games and mostly watch movies (I refuse to pay for cable). It's a little annoying though that a month after I buy the thing they drop the price.


Ed   August 19th, 2009 11:50 am ET

The XBox 360 will always trump PS3 as long as its got XBox Live. Until Sony brings forward something that will compete well in Online play, this will always remain to be.

Also, with Microsofts Project Natal, which was announced at E3, Sony has their work cut out for them.


Loopy   August 19th, 2009 12:12 pm ET

So ah....when is the PS4 launch????
With this price decrease it should only be a matter of time before it hits the shelves...just in time for those early Christmas shoppers.


Derek   August 19th, 2009 12:28 pm ET

To correct Yuji's statement, PS3 does offer Netflix streaming. Unfortunately, it requires a PlayOn software purchase.


Adam   August 19th, 2009 12:29 pm ET

To bad both consoles are junk with about 6 good titles on each of them, the rest are a bunch of half assed unfinished games that have no community to fix them other than dev patches which break more things than they fix.


bmason   August 19th, 2009 12:36 pm ET

"The XBox 360 will always trump PS3 as long as its got XBox Live. Until Sony brings forward something that will compete well in Online play, this will always remain to be.

Also, with Microsofts Project Natal, which was announced at E3, Sony has their work cut out for them."

PSN is free and amazingly I can actually play with other people around the world on the game I purchased with Online capability. The game, actually plays the same too. Xbox Live might have more features but not where they matter to me and not for $50 is it worth it. Keep telling yourself that "Live" makes the game better though.

And "Project Natal". Now yet another version of a game for developers to worry about. THe only Natal Games will be Xbox exclusives and probably not for another 4 years. Sorry but no Madden Natal is on the horizon. The Wii controller is enough of a pain to program around.


Rob   August 19th, 2009 1:03 pm ET

Did anyone actually look at the Specs for the 360 and the PS3? The Blu-Ray Disc player is awesome, but it's not the only thing that makes the PS3 better. It has a faster processer (anyone heard of the cell processor? ....developed for the PS3, now used in super computers?)
Also, Ps3 ONLY has wireless controllers, not a big deal, but something i like.
Graphics core clock speed Ps3:550Mhz . Xbox:500Mhz
Resolution: Ps3:1080P (full HD) xbox:1080i (Almost full HD)
ps3:7 controllers xbox:4 controllers
Ps3 has built-in bluetooth, for the controllers and for headsets, which makes it really easy to go online and talk, just use ur wireless bluetooth headset u already have for your cell phone, no need to buy a new one.
Ed,
How does the Playstation Network NOT compete with Xbox live? Xbox Live costs MONEY!!! Whereas, PSN is free. I play online every single day on the PS3 and I have no lag. There are always hundreds or even thousands of games going for COD4 or COD5, and did I mention it was free?
I'm just saying if you look at the statistics and compare them for both consoles the PS3 wins. Hands down. The prices being the same will definitely help PS3 sales.


Sherri   August 19th, 2009 1:16 pm ET

Oh yaaay!! I'd held off on buying one for a couple reasons: price and the game I really wanted it for [final fantasy xiii] was not out yet lol. But now YAAAAY. Awesome awesome awesome ^^


Rob   August 19th, 2009 1:18 pm ET

hahha madden natal. I might switch to xbox if that comes out... can you imagine a bunch of ppl playing football in their living room? apparently 'project natal' uses absolutely no controllers, unlike the wii which has the motion sensing controllers. I think project natal is going to be like the eyetoy, which PS3 already has.


Matt   August 19th, 2009 1:30 pm ET

I bought a Blu-Ray player on Sunday for $230 because a $170 premium to play the few PS3 games that I cared about was too much. Then I saw this today, returned said player, and will be buying a PS3 Slim when it shows up. That $400 was the reason I had never bought one to begin with.

Oh, and Xbox Live is definitely worth $4.16/month. The Wii is nice too but I can honestly say that it gets the least of my at-home leisure time attention; far behind the pool table, the 360, the TiVo, and the PC.


Stephanie   August 19th, 2009 1:46 pm ET

“In addition, all PS3 consoles got a $100 price cut today, dropping the cost to an enticing $299.”

This is unconfirmed and false info if you ask me. If that is true, then that would mean the 40GB PS3 should be $199 and I haven’t seen anyone selling it for that much.

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It is confirmed, go onto any website that sells PS3 right now, including SonyStyle, and you will see the price has dropped.


Deco   August 19th, 2009 1:57 pm ET

Too little, too late.


MLG Mike   August 19th, 2009 2:07 pm ET

All you ps3 fanboys out there need to do your research before you start commenting on somthing you dont understand. The ps3 may have alittle bit more powerful processor but it really doesnt matter if the system does not have enough RAM to support the processor. Thats why all the sports and shooters in 05 and 06 were displayed at 30 frames per second and the 360 THREE slightly smaller processors but more than double the ram can run EVERY game at 60 FPS. There is no game on the market that can prove better graphics on the PS3. I own every system on the market and my 360 gets much more game play than wii and ps3, as a matter of fact, I dont ust my ps3 for anything but blueray. And just so you know the 360 does run at 1080p This has been the case for the last year and a half through a firmware update. Get your facts straight.


Ben Vitoff   August 19th, 2009 2:27 pm ET

I am normally an XBox fanatic, but I am tired of how many times the 360 has let me down with their "Three Red Rings" Now that the PS3 is being reintroduced at a cheaper price, I am much more inclined to spend my money with Playstation, where they don't have a reputation for their product breaking down... which is sad, because I really did like the XBox, but hey, if doesn't work, I don't play.


Rob   August 19th, 2009 2:28 pm ET

I didn't realize the xbox displayed in 1080p now, my fault. the built in wifi in the ps3 is nice though. Honestly i think with the price drop that the two systems are the same. I've heard ppl say the graphics on the 360 are better, but i've seen them both on my HDTV and they look the same, I just prefer the PS3's comfortable controllers over the xbox's, even though the new ones are a LOT better than the original xbox, which were ridiculous.


Fella   August 19th, 2009 2:46 pm ET

While I own (and to some extent enjoy) a PS3 I have a hard time understanding the argument at this point. It's a fine system in its own right, but next to the 360 it seems to be below the bar in too many ways to ignore: the graphics argument has shown to be consistently flawed (how about almost every game on the system comparing infavorably with the 360 version in a side-by-side comparison), developers consistently deride it as a console for which it is significantly harder to develop games, and it features a line-up of exclusive titles that's impossible to call any better fair. It's not a bad system by any stretch, but the only real killer argument for it is as follows: Uncharted 2, Fat Princess, Flower. I love those games, but I don't think that argument is compelling enough.


Ed   August 19th, 2009 2:47 pm ET

"PSN is free and amazingly I can actually play with other people around the world on the game I purchased with Online capability. The game, actually plays the same too. Xbox Live might have more features but not where they matter to me and not for $50 is it worth it. Keep telling yourself that “Live” makes the game better though."

Do some research, and you tell me who has the most subscribers. A little hint, its not Sony. So, it may be free for the PS3, but all I know is that a high majority of XBox Live members would never give up what they have on XBox live, and trade it for PS3 Online just because its 'Free'.

"And “Project Natal”. Now yet another version of a game for developers to worry about. THe only Natal Games will be Xbox exclusives and probably not for another 4 years. Sorry but no Madden Natal is on the horizon. The Wii controller is enough of a pain to program around."

Are you actually complaining about this putting more work on developers? I'm sorry, but in order to keep up with ever changing technology, its the developers job to keep up. Technology waits for no man.


CODfan30   August 19th, 2009 2:48 pm ET

Sony is always where it's been at. They make higher quality products. You get what you pay for (hence the price). I think it's great they came out with a cheaper version for the folks who can't always afford quality.

I own all three systems, as I'm a collector (Wii, Xbox, Sony). It's rare I turn on the Wii or Xbox, though I often purchase the games for all three and try them out. I find that the PS3 is almost always the better console for the game and I have had no problems with the system yet (I own the original 60 gig, the 40 gig, and the 80 gig PS3 systems).

I have high expectations for the new Slim Line. Wii is pretty much for the kiddies and Xbox is "iffy" (as is most of Microsoft's products). I think the Slim Line will do great.


MLG Mike   August 19th, 2009 3:22 pm ET

Rob,
I agree about the built in wifi. It is nice. I actually like the 360 controller better though. The ps3 controller feels to small to me. I like the xbl better than psn even though it costs money every year I feel like I'm getting a better product because more improvments are made to the service if there is money comming in. A free service is never as good as a paid service. As far as the number of games going on line. I tried cod 4 and 5 on both systems and there were 5 times the number of people on xbl than there were on psn. It is more of a community feel on xbl and also all the chat mail and invite options are far easyer on xbl than psn


chris   August 19th, 2009 3:52 pm ET

Great move sony but Bill gates has already lured me over to microsoft and the thrills of a massive game library with unbelievable costs just to play online is too enticing. Though God of War 3 may change that but i can just play it on a PS2.


Travis   August 19th, 2009 3:54 pm ET

Whoever said that Sony makes higher quality products apparently never owned a PS2. I went through three of them. At least Microsoft stepped up to the plate regarding the RROD, Sony just denied the PS2's disc read errors. The whole RROD argument is also old news. Microsoft actually fixed the problem. If it would have been Sony, they would still be denying that a problem even existed.


Lee   August 19th, 2009 4:10 pm ET

How about lowering the price of games, this way i wont find it hard to purchase more than 1 game every so often..long time PS fan!!


bmason   August 19th, 2009 4:24 pm ET

"Do some research, and you tell me who has the most subscribers. A little hint, its not Sony. So, it may be free for the PS3, but all I know is that a high majority of XBox Live members would never give up what they have on XBox live, and trade it for PS3 Online just because its ‘Free’."

I'm not suggesting they are, but I can't see any compelling reason why I would PAY for an experience I am allready getting for free online. I can play my games, log on easily enough as it is. Xbox Live offers nothing compelling to me.

"Are you actually complaining about this putting more work on developers? I’m sorry, but in order to keep up with ever changing technology, its the developers job to keep up. Technology waits for no man."

These same developers complain that tey have to work harder to program for hte PS3 even though perhaps if they did the outcome would be better than on the Xbox. We'll see which looks better when MGS is ported to the 360.

EA is not going to waste any effort on something like Natal if it isn't easy to do or they are given some love from Microsoft to do so. How often is Motion Control for PS3 implemented by third parrty developers? Zero, because they aren't wasting resources developing extra code when it isn't needed.

Natal will require a pretty heavy install base before developers start throwing money at it. How many Wii board games are out there?


Larry   August 19th, 2009 4:25 pm ET

What are the "red rings" on xbox? I have heard of this problem a lot lately. I have a PS3, and I enjoy the free PSN. I am not a big time gamer, as I have a job/wife/kid that takes up most of my time. I bought the PS3 for the blueray. My brother turned me on to the Call of Duty games, and I like the online play. The only complaint I have about the PS3 is the lack of games that are interesting to me. Tiger Woods golf and Call of Duty are the only games that I have used the PSN with.


Bill   August 19th, 2009 4:36 pm ET

$300? With no backward compatibility for PS2 games, ridiculous load times, and no pack in HD cable? I think I'll pass. After seeing the quality of the PS3 games at launch, I knew this was the system to skip. Years later, there still isn't a game worth purchasing a PS3 for.


bmason   August 19th, 2009 4:49 pm ET

How much backward compatability does the 360 have?

How much does the WiFi adaptor cost?

How much does the Elite cost in order to even get HDMI out of the 360?


CODfan30   August 19th, 2009 4:55 pm ET

bmason,

Naturally there would be more people on Xbox Live... being as it's known that less people have bought the PS3 due to its high price.

You're stating the obvious.


Chicago Dad   August 19th, 2009 5:22 pm ET

I am the father of an 18 year old gamer and a gamer myself. Christmas 2007 was the year that he really wanted a new console to replace the PS2 and the silly Wii that barely got used. All I heard was X-box 360, X-box 360, X-box 360 and nearly relented until I did the research for myself.

The pricing (even then) made the PS3 the easy choice as I would have had to pay for a wireless adapter and a separate HD-DVD (now dead) drive just to make them similar. All but one game that was enticing (Halo) was on both systems. Sure X-box had a head start and lots more games but that stuff has a way of working itself out. After the research, we pulled the trigger and bought the PS3 for the family.

You know that Youtube of the kid screaming about how happy he was about his Wii. Picture the opposite of that from a 16-year old. Argghhh.

Blu-ray movies, Call of Duty 4, Rock Band, Gran Turismo, World at War, and game after game have made the PS3 one of the most used items in our house.

Fast forward to this year and even my son is a convert–PS3 has all the games it needs, some great exclusives, blu-ray, and now a price cut. HE wanted...and got a PS3 for graduation. I rest my case.


Bertram   August 19th, 2009 5:44 pm ET

Applications are why people use computers. Games are the applications of a video game console.

Sony management forgot this simple fact of life. Ignoring the game investment (money, time, accessories, and emotions) of their customers is why Sony is losing the video console "war."

I own 4 PS2 systems (3 run Final Fantasy XI) and they show their age. While I would replace them in an heart beat, a PS3 is not a choice because Sony doesn't honestly, I fail to see Sony respecting my gaming choices or investments.

In the end, Sony's choice bleeds over to their other products. I used to favor Sony for consumer products (e.g. camera, TV, DVD, etc), but now I look at other companies first. Their PS3 decision affects the bottom line beyond the console itself.


Ace101   August 19th, 2009 6:02 pm ET

Project Natal will fail just like the Xbox has for the 4 years and to all the fanboys of XBOX 360. PS3 does not and never has any problems with is hardware going out on it (unlike some systems I know). We'll get into to later. The price cut is long over due for teh PS3 but the thing that does impress me about PS3 is that they were able to sale so many system with the higher price tag. I think that this will help PS3 in the sort term. What Sony needs to do is bring back the ability to play PS2 games on the system and get a better online server.


Ace101   August 19th, 2009 6:15 pm ET

One more thing XBOX 360 DOES NOT I REPEAT DOES NOT HANDLE 1080P ONLY PS3. THANK YOU.


Ace101   August 19th, 2009 6:20 pm ET

Correction: XBOX 360 does handle HD but not 1080P HD. THANK YOU.


Anon   August 19th, 2009 6:30 pm ET

YES!

so getting one of these...

i wanted a next gen console, but the wii was crappish for my type of games, and the 360 made you pay for internet play, and had the RROD as some people said....

that left the $400 PS3...

too much money.

so gonna get one now.


Ed   August 19th, 2009 6:44 pm ET

"EA is not going to waste any effort on something like Natal if it isn’t easy to do or they are given some love from Microsoft to do so. How often is Motion Control for PS3 implemented by third parrty developers? Zero, because they aren’t wasting resources developing extra code when it isn’t needed."

It all comes down to supply and demand. If Natal is successful, of course EA would have to put effort into it. Thats how bussiness is done. If EA were to opt out of developinging games for a successfull technology, they would never make money. Its common sense. Look at the sales of WII games in comparission to PS3. WII wins hands down.

Bottom line is it all comes down to how you promote sales of your product. PS3 is too late to the show. The system was way to pricey from the beginning, which is why PS3 is low in the sales ranking. They aloud Microsoft to get a good foot hold. I am not saying the PS3 is a bad product, but it would have been more widely accepted if they would have kept the price reasonable from the beginning.


Carl   August 19th, 2009 8:05 pm ET

Lol wow, look at you patriotic xbox fanatics! PS3 is going to sell better now because of the new price cut. "Sorry buh buh buh $300 is still too much, I mean Xbox still has their $199 Arcade"– Yeah? And so is the countless times of paying 2-3 times of fees for shipping/repairing the same 2-3 xbox 360s for the common "Red Ring of Death" issues, heating issues (apparently an xbox 360 game called Mass Effect 2 caused some xbox 360s to overheat at Gamescon yesterday) and E74 errors that make the inferior system expensive.

Open your eyes, it's almost 4 years since Microsoft has Xbox 360 in the gaming market, and still has NOT fixed the very common issues for that console. What was the percentage for the failure rate for Xbox 360? Recent stats showed it at 54.2%! Until then the smart consumers will realize this not wanting to be frustrated any longer and WILL go and purchase a PS3 Original/Slim. Stop your whining. Sony has answered your complaints already and now there is new stuff to criticize about their new price cute, totally ridiculous if you asked me.


Michael   August 19th, 2009 8:13 pm ET

^ This. Totally agreed with you Carl. New consumers should be thankful of Sony for giving us such a reliable system even though the media has created a social hate for their current system. Now they have answered again with a new healthy and friendly price cut. I am now interested in getting one as this PS3 slim is in my budget range and plus it consumes less energy, making those energy bills more lighter.


amIforProphet   August 19th, 2009 9:18 pm ET

All I can say is this:
Uncharted 2, GOW 3, Heavy Rain, Avatar...plenty of reason to get ps3....
MGS4 was and still is the truth.
I don't see what people hate about PSN...works fine for me.
I'll be getting a slim boy to replace my original bought still working launch ps3.


Mike Powers   August 19th, 2009 11:02 pm ET

I personally own all 3 systems. I got the Wii because of it's revolutionary control scheme... add that to Zelda and Mario, and what you have is legendary. The xbox 360 I got solely because of xbox live + awesome game selection. It was a no brainer. But the PS3, I got solely because I was planning to purchase a blu-ray player anyway, and the cost difference at the time wasn't that great... so I figured get a PS3 as well.

Well fast forward a few years to today, and I can conclusively say that the "middle age" of the video game industry has ended. Games cost too much to make for a game company to be both creative, awesome hi-def graphics, AND make enough money when they release it on only one system. So the time for games coming out on only one system is OVER. And that means the market can't support 3 game systems... I figure it can only support 2, and that's because Nintendo and Microsoft don't "play in each other's sandboxes."

The only way PS3 will ever recover to near the point of xbox, is if they force games to come out that take advantage of their unique sixaxis controller, much the same way Wii did. Designing a game from the beginnning to rely on the controller, forces it to be targeted to only one system. Sony has to not just be an comparable alternative to xbox in this respect, but carve out it's own following. Hopefully this combined with being able to play blu-ray movies will finally bring Sony up to the top. Right now, all I see is Sony versions of what Microsoft has been doing for years. They just released a trophy upgrade that mimics what Microsoft has been doing since the BEGINNING. I say stick to your strengths. RPGs Sony has always been best at, yet I don't see any good ones that have the mass appeal of Final Fantasy 7.


Alex   August 19th, 2009 11:11 pm ET

Is this a joke? This article is about the price drop of the already dated system. All 3 are obsolete compared to a PC (which plays most games anyways). And as far as which one is "better", you will never know. Because there is always some "child" that assumes a brand name means something. Back when the PS2 was king, Sony actually made other good appliances (TV's, Camera's and such). Im sure im not the only one that noticed the decline of quality? After a family member got a Sony laptop, i vowed to never by Sony for the sake of the name. Sure i have a great TV (trinitron circa 2001) and a PS2, but the PS3 is just not worth the premium, and with a price cut this late in shelf life, it just shows that they are struggling to keep development of the PS4 a go with the stockholders.

I have a Wii, 360, PS2, N64, PS1, Super Nintendo and Sega Genisis. Notice the lack of PS3/GCUBE. These are mistakes. The game cube was worthless (games are not an argument), and the PS3 failed to harness the power of its chip. (WHICH BY THE WAY SONY FANBOYS, ITS THE SAME TECHNOLOGY IN THE 360)

All in all, you should by __ if....
Nintendo – Casual
Microsoft – Hardcore
Sony – Too broke to buy a blu-ray and game system.

However you shouldnt even buy a console if you know how to use a computer and have the cash to build a good one. Its not that hard to make games run on the PC.


Mr. Man   August 20th, 2009 12:25 am ET

SorensiC got it all wrong....

Xbox is the crap system that keeps on breaking.
A guy at Gamestop told me he gets back 10 xbox consoles a week, and only 1 broke PS3 a month if any.

PS3 is going to skyrocket from this...and it is in my opinion the most powerful and best looking system for gamers.


HideoFan   August 20th, 2009 1:51 am ET

Whoever said MGS was gonna be ported to the Xbox 360 lacks complete control over his dreaming mind. What the Xbox 360 is getting is a new game 'based' on the MGS franchise.. an 'action' game where Raiden (a very cool character for me) is gonna play hero in. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but the fact that the true MGS genre will be continued on the PSP (do your research if you don't believe me), then stating that Xbox 360 is gonna get a port of the said franchise is totally false. By a long shot, even.

About the price cut, it would definitely help spur PS3 sales, I hope both Xbox 360 and the PS3 'cooperate' in bringing in better games, new innovation, and better options for all gamers.

Fanboys need to stop whining, we buy these consoles for their games, not just for hardware. Go buy the 360 if you're a Halo fan, and save up for the now elegantly priced PS3 slim if you want MGS and other exclusives such as God of War.

And, seriously, enough talk about better graphics better graphics. Is anyone seriously gonna notice that bland pixel-sized texture while a horde of zombies try to take your character down? when you're zooming past a Corvette on your final lap 25 meters away from the finish line?

Puh-leeease. We're gamers here, not barbarians.


TJRedneck   August 20th, 2009 7:57 am ET

I have both and XBOX360 and PS3, yes the Microsoft pirated version of the playstation has more games, but otherwise the PS3 beats it hands down. I have them both hooked up to my 52 in HDLCD TV, the PS3 has a better picture and graphics. Of course the XBOX360 does have a better RED SCREEN OF DEATH, and I can use it as a hotplate to cook popcorn on while I am using my PS3 to watch bluray movies on. As soon as my XBOX360 craps out, I am throwing it out for good and never getting one again, I will trade in all the games as well. Yes, I also have a Wii, the kids like it and I like playing the legacy games that I downloaded from the Wii shop. People complain about the price of the PS3, if you take the cost of an XBOX360 and the cost of a decent HDDVD player, the PS3 is on hell of a bargain. It also takes up less space. But most people have one dimensional thinking these days.


Brian   August 20th, 2009 9:18 am ET

I will definitely be getting one now!!!


MLG Mike   August 20th, 2009 9:51 am ET

Ace the 360 DOES PUT OUT 1080P LOOK up the firm ware update in 2007. Even if it didnt, the diiference between 1080i/720P which is the same thing and 1080p is not even noticable to the naked eye when the tv has a high contrast ratio. The only time the difference is relevant is during movies or video, video game graphics have so much on the screen that you would not notice a difference, the exception in this case would be the frame rate a video game was produced at, and the ps3 is the clear looser in this catagory, 30 fps on about half the games compared to 22% on the 360.Do your research.


MLG Mike   August 20th, 2009 9:56 am ET

and for the record, i have been selling plasma and lcds since inception so I think I might know alittle somthing about it, no to mention I have had every video game system since Atari.


Lenny   August 20th, 2009 10:45 am ET

Alex

WHAT? the PS3 has been taking advantage of the Cell Chip Since Day 1.

Games Like Uncharted or GODIII arent even possible to render on the 360.

You are just a fanboy.


Gordon Stangler   August 23rd, 2009 10:46 am ET

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I hope Sony soon restores BC to the PS3, and reduces the weight even more, as these are the biggest two issues I have with the PS3. Oh, a better game library would help, too.


ron   August 23rd, 2009 11:46 am ET

I am not a gamer. When I purchased my HD TV, every store I went to said the PS3 was the best value for a "fast" Blu Ray player. Most of the stand alone Blue Ray players use much slower processors and you can wait several minutes until the movie actually starts. Not so with the PS3. It starts almost instantly. That's because Sony knew they had to have a fast processor for the gamers. At the time you'd have to spend $700 to find a faster Blu Ray player. The PS3 was a blu ray bargain at $300 and for my guests who cared about the gaming, that was a huge bonus. Blu Ray is the only HD movie format out there. How can $300 or even $400 be considered expensive when it can do the job of an Xbox and a Blu Ray player for a fraction of the price?


jason   August 23rd, 2009 12:18 pm ET

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Tom Cat   August 23rd, 2009 1:02 pm ET

Something about the PS3 just complements the digital TV in a way that neither the X360 or Wii have ever done. It plays DVD content gracefully, as well. And, the Bluetooth wireless is simply elegant.

ALL the FPG are getting better, but I agree that the limited titles are a problem. I, too, predict cheaper box, more intuitive controllers (less learning curve and less intimidating to mature adults), and hopefully, some truely intelligent game play, that includes rewards for both hand-eye coordination, but also fulfills the need for visual and auditors rewards.

The software is where things stalled out. I'm tired of play on the same basic game engine. I want AI, and feedback (like Wii) and networking, but without being forced into first person competition. I don't want to beat the machine or other competitive players, I just want to enjoy the medium. I want to interactive touring, 3D movies, and I want to use my game machine to run my home security cameras, too.

I'm just sayin' . . .


marc   August 23rd, 2009 1:23 pm ET

look at this now PS3 are droping prices and changing look, i own a xbox 360 and the reason i got one is the price i got it used and it cost under $200 wireless controler witch is nice but the main reason why i didnt get a PS3 is the $400 price tag that is way too much for a game console. i have a PS1 and 2 still and they work great the 360 as good graphics but i have to say PS3 is superior graphicly but too expencive.
and i still think PC is the way to go for graphics and game selection also, im sure not everyone will agree.
but the bottom line is a little too late for PS3.


David   August 23rd, 2009 1:27 pm ET

The PS3 was not overpriced at launch. The PS3 is one of the highest rated Blu-Ray players available, while being the only one that could be updated via downloads to keep up with the Blu-rays firmware and software updates. The people that bought any standalone player at Blu-Rays launch paid at least 700.00 and where left out in the cold when the updated features where released a while later. It's a fact that they lost hundreds on each console, they cost about $800-850 to build at launch. Sony included the Blu-Ray so that they would have a better chance at beating HD-DVD and we all know how that turned out. They stand to make billions on the Blu-ray format and the fellas at Microsoft are kicking themselves in the ass for not including a HD drive. For the record, I own a 360 and had no plans to buy a PS3 due to the current lack of console exclusive titles. I bought one after my 360 had the RROD for they second time in 3 months 2 weeks before Christmas after we had bought the kids a few games. My Xbox had 2 more RROD since then, however the last refurbished unit they sent me seems to be running fine after a full year. The Xbox is great when it works, but my kids don't seem to get much enjoyment out of spinning the discs on their finger while Microsoft figures out how to properly test any product before sending it to market. Sometimes rushing your product out before the competition comes back to bite you. I just read that over 30% of 360 owners have bought more then one because of constant hardware failure, no wonder why they they sold more units. Consumers are dumb enough to buy products they know are going to fail.


Adaradrian   August 23rd, 2009 2:38 pm ET

I've had an XBOX 360 for a few years.
I got hit with "red ring of death" the wireless controller died, the replacement xbox had physical errors and was obviously one they couldn't sell. That being said.

$299 for decent xbox then monthly xbox gold fee. $10 I think. I refuse to pay money to play multiplayer for the game I own. So you end up paying $429 your first year.

$299 for PS3 no montly fee.

I will buy a PS3 slim just so I can play multi and have a blue ray player.


me   August 23rd, 2009 4:25 pm ET

i guess we are going to forget about all the games that where going to be online but never got support (check MGS4) or games that come out and don't have online support on day one (check LBP) maybe you have not noticed that sony has taken on that lets just throw S*** at them mentality and they will be okay and as gamers we should be used to it. Well all I have to say is I am glad that the price drop begging is done let's see what you Sony fans will be begging for from Sony next.


Keith   August 23rd, 2009 11:03 pm ET

Xbox's numbers are inflated due to people replacing their non-repairable first system because microsoft rushed an inferior product, I should know as this as happened to myself and a few others.


MoreInformedThanYou   August 24th, 2009 1:48 am ET

I don't know why there is still a PS3 vs. XBOX 360 debate...the difference in graphics quality is barely noticeable, and the PS3 plays blu-ray, which in case you haven't noticed, is the ONLY hd format now. It is also much more stable and has more and better titles. Why would anybody still purchase a 360...it makes no sense to me...


really?   August 24th, 2009 12:54 pm ET

Wow, with comments posted like the ones above....just confirms my suspicion that addiction isn't just for alcoholics or chatters. Turn off the consoles boys & girls & step outside!! There is life outside of playstation...xbox...computers.


Nate K   August 24th, 2009 5:54 pm ET

I disagree with "really?"....we have once again caught someone taking eanough time to read a whole article and its comments just to tell us that there is "life outside of playstation....xbox...and computers." The next thing well hear is that we should eat more veggies and drink all organic milk and less dr pepper. Its like the IRS telling us we spend too much time doing taxes.Tell you what....maybe you should spend more time looking for better articles not to care about. If you were outside you wouldnt be reading this.


Ugh   August 24th, 2009 6:22 pm ET

First of all, the Wii is not part of the console wars. It is just not really worth calling a real hardcore gamer's system. So don't include it. Anyways people will still buying that junk and nothing will ever top it so there's really no use talking bout it. I hope it doesn't surpass the PS2 because the PS2 is a casual AND hardcore's dream.

And for all the, "Wow, with comments posted like the ones above….just confirms my suspicion that addiction isn’t just for alcoholics or chatters. Turn off the consoles boys & girls & step outside!! There is life outside of playstation…xbox…computers.",

just don't talk. It's our hobby and we enjoy. Just because I'm a hardcore doesn't mean I don't exercise. I'm probably one of the most fit in my community (no exaggeration). Why don't YOU extend your point of view's instead of labeling all gamers fat and lazy. It's people like that piss me off.


Mark Willett   August 24th, 2009 10:42 pm ET

Sony needs to learn from the past mistake. It seems that they keep trying to invent new technologies to corner the market. Sure they won the war with Blu-ray but its still not a war that was won. I don't see them ever winning the market for Video Games mainly because they try to invent something to drastically new, then expect developers to just associate everything to them.

Developers in general love to make games, but being exclusive to a platform is a hard thing to soak in, unless the money is paying well. I myself would rather see games span multiple systems, allowing more of a community and uprising throughout the fans. Making absurd technology like the "cell" which requires a heavy tweaked game engine to setup on the bios of the game system limits who actually wants to port a game over to them.

Its very apparent, Sony does not learn from there mistakes. If you don't think so, take a look at Beta Max, Mini-Disc, or just look at the difference between when games launch. Xbox360 and Wii are simultaneous, then a port (keyword there) is made for PS3, which delays the game if they want a multilaunch for up to 3-4 weeks redesigning the engine to run on a 'celled' system. A price cut is just going to get people looking to spend money to say.. hey, maybe its time to finally buy one.. they are practically giving them away now.


Nate K   August 26th, 2009 12:26 am ET

Hey you guys that are still participating in this article....you guys will have all new stuff to argue about in 2010. If you followed e3 you guys can catch cool things from xbox with their new no controllers system called "netal"...also they are releasing a new game thing using facial recognition and emotion recognition called milo or something like that.

PS3 has a new controller out that had a fantastic demo at e3 that "won" e3....if there is such a thing as a winner or loser. Actually the only company that really didnt offer anything cool was nintendo. In fact the coolest thing ive seen from nintendo didnt even come from nintendo....it came from some old japanese guy who developed something called "head tracking."

Anyway, the point is that if you get your rocks off to argueing about the console war now....WAIT TILL 2010!!! There will all soarts of new crap to argue about...which of course....will still result in no clear winner.


Josh   August 26th, 2009 12:31 pm ET

MontanaBanana, SONY discontinued the 40GB PS3. That's why you're not seeing a $199 40GB. Also, someone commented on the PS3 controller being more "hand friendly" than the Xbox 360 controller. I have personally found the Xbox 360 controller to be much more "hand friendly" than the PS3. I've played both, and I would start to get hand cramps after prolonged play on the PS3, but I have never experienced that with the Xbox 360. Another comment was that the PS3 has a better game selection. Have you been to a GameStop recently? The one in my town has half a wall next to the register for PS3 titles, and a wall and a half for Xbox 360 titles. It is blatantly obvious which system has a larger game selection. The two major 3rd-party exclusive titles that the PS3 had left, Final Fantasy (core) and Metal Gear Solid, have both jumped ship and become multi-platform. The PS3 is a sinking ship, and SONY is trying to bail it out with tablespoons.


Josh   August 26th, 2009 12:37 pm ET

Adaradrian... Xbox Live Gold is $50 a YEAR, not $10 a month. Get your facts straight before posting a bs comment.


PS3Guy   August 26th, 2009 4:14 pm ET

Look at the Xbox 360 fan boys talking smack! Stop trying to down the PS3. Have any of you taken one apart? Its a PC, it uses a PC motherboard, memory and on board graphics, why do you think developers had such an easy time with it DirectX is PC only.

I got my PS3 at launch and yes it was expensive but I research the technology they put it in and know it is far superior to any Xbox.

How many super computer clusters have you heard of using Xbox? Google it for PS3, companies sell cluster packages using PS3 because of its power.

Microsoft will end up putting out version 8 of the XBOX 360 hardware just to keep up. Enjoy the RRoD, even if they replace your Xbox your still getting a piece of junk that will do it again.


David   August 28th, 2009 1:19 am ET

I think like many others that this will boost Sony's sales. The only downside of the PS3 is that they can't convert all the other popular games for systems such as the Xbox 306 into blu-ray or they just can't get the game makers to make games that can be played on the PS3.


Mike   August 28th, 2009 9:34 pm ET

This will do nothing for the PS3. At first Blu-Ray was a great draw for consumers as it was the cheapest and the best on the market. However, with people able to buy well-made Blu-Ray players for $200, people just are not willing to go for it. Now with Microsoft updating the Xbox 360 with the Jasper chipset in order to severely reduce or even eliminate the RRoD issue, and the phase-out of the Pro edition and lowering the Elite to $299, The Xbox will more than out-perform the PS3 in coming years. And even though the PS3 has big name titles coming out, The Xbox has just as many including Mass Effect 2 and Halo: ODST and Halo: Reach.


leye   August 30th, 2009 5:14 pm ET

damn.... that tooo much. to drop $300 on a ps3 console. thats too much, gamer are really complaining on the price, they will rather go for an XBOX 360 than the PS# console


Baby Bear   August 31st, 2009 11:41 pm ET

Well I have a first gen PS 3 and I love it and for what I paid for it was no more then what I would of paid for all I needed for a360 and it's stuff and still have to pitch out 250 for a blue ray. My Wii cost me over 500 for everything and still have to buy a blue ray. So I think, I know I got the better deal and my PS3 does not look cheep as the others. I don't have a payment every month to play with my friend 3,000 miles away I would not trade my PS 3 in for eather of those others. Thank You Sony! and for standing by and helping me when ever I need anything big or small your always so kind and helpful!! Your the TOP GUY' I now own a Sega Master system, Genuses, Atari, PS-3, WII and I have over 2,000 games for all of them and my favorte has got to be well can't make up my mind on that one I do love the Michael Jackson one and Space Invaders. Oh yea I have my PSP to and 44 games for that to. Well got to go walk the Kittie now then the fun is what to play when I get home?~


Richy   September 2nd, 2009 6:08 am ET

hello ...

i see the same thing everywhere!

the price drop is a PLUS for PS3 ... still don't forget that with more than 20 Millions unit sold & a 10% failure rate it was already ahead of Xbox360 for the latter with 31 Millions unit & a failure rate of 54%, the figures was more because of re-purchasing another unit ...

The WII is the actual WIIner ...

yes like some said, piracy is a plague .. so even if so many consoles sold, there are a lot of pirated soft on platforms like PC / Xbox360 & WII ... too bad for developers. thank you SONY!

moreover, i still don't understand why everyone keeps saying that the software library for PS3 is poor ...

let's be fair, with 1 year lateness & take it as from today ... it's easier to find 10 or more blockbuster TRUE EXCLUSIVE 8 Plus rated Games on PS3 in less than 20 seconds, try do so with other consoles! & yes please be honest. if games like Uncharted 2, God of War 3, Heavy rain exist, how can one say it's a nightmare to code for that beast! let's wait and see GT5, Last guardian, etc ...

I'm no PS3 fanboy, but hey yes i do own one old Big behemoth!
it's a real value for money console considering the lot of thing i do with it.

IMHO, MS & Nintendo should have had more consideration for the developers by finding better ways to prevent hacking their system. & MS should have had better consideration for the customers in having a much failsafe hardware. i will not criticize the Xbox360, but if we stick to the facts & figures, one cannot be blind even if is an Xbox fanboy ;)

to end, all i hope for all consoles is to have a proper market share that allows future development & better competition, for who wins in the end is US, customers ;)

those complaining about the price are not comparing with the real price of Xbox or WII games, but with a DVD-R for a copied/stolen version .. so please ...!!!

It's a pity but for that generation, the best combo would be either a WII + PS3 or PS3 + PC, for almost every EXCLUSIVE titles to the Xbox360 is in fact an MS Exclusive so comes with better GFX on PC, the WII is a world in itself, the PS3 is the best primary or secondary console to the WII or PC ...

cheers

From
Richy!


Max Quattromani   September 17th, 2009 1:13 pm ET

Excited for this to come to market, however our experience has been a drop in repairs of the previous models. Only a matter of time though before these will begin to require service themselves.
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gamEr   February 4th, 2010 3:54 pm ET

so what this i hear about the new price range its beter to me because us gamers can spend more on the games we want to play or to "MASTER" i'v played many games in my days even the games that some wont even think of playing.... but for GOW and the FF XIII on the ps3 i think this is a new thing but this cant be good for the company's proffit!!!!!


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