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December 4, 2009

Mixed bag for early holiday console sales

Posted: 09:28 AM ET


As the holiday shopping season ramps up, video game console makers are keeping a wary eye on early sales.

Sony, maker of the PlayStation 3, claims it got off to a rousing start during the Black Friday week ending on November 29.  Patrick Seybold, Sr. Director of Corporate Communications, said the company sold more than 440,000 consoles, which was an “all-time high.”

Those sales numbers are up from October (320,600 units sold) and Seybold believes Sony's software will help sell its hardware.  “We have no doubt the momentum and demand will continue,” he said.

By contrast, Nintendo said it sold 550,000 consoles during the same Black Friday week.  It also announced its DS Lite and DSi portable gaming devices combined to sell more than 1 million units during the week.

In September Nintendo cut the price of the Wii for the first time, by $50 to $199.99.  Last year, the company shipped 800,000 Wiis to the U.S. for Black Friday week.

Microsoft has not made any announcements about sales of the Xbox 360 during the intense shopping week.  Aaron Greenberg, Director of Product Management, posted on his Twitter account that the Xbox 360 had its biggest sales week of the year.

When asked about hard numbers, Greenberg tweeted that Microsoft was waiting for the official industry numbers before commenting.  The game review site, Gamespot, extrapolated previously reported numbers from October to come up with approximately 124,850 consoles sold during this past Black Friday week.

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Shock Troop [MDK]   December 4th, 2009 12:52 pm ET

The PS3 has better reliability that the XBOX 360 and boasts some very popular games. It also contains features that offer more cost free freedom for users. It also has the benefit of a BluRay.

Microsoft blew it's opportunities with the XBOX360. The RRoD issues, which were directly related to bad quality manufacturing and poor internal engineering have made it the most unreliable console in history. Microsoft's response to the problem has fallen short of preserving integrity. Similar to it's operating systems, Microsoft dodges responsibility and asks consumer to buy into promises of fixes in the future. Dedicated XBOX360 users have spend thousands of dollars on multiple replacement systems. In the end, the XBOX360 was the most expensive console for some consumers.

The Wii is powerful, unique, and packed with features. However it's nearly 100% reliance on a clumsy input system has left it with few titles that will be remembered. The Wii has the ability to play games nearly as good as the PS3 and XBOX360. However, Nintendo is making a mistake by not pushing a serious classic controller option that ressembles those used by other systems. The current classic controller is not impressive. The Wii has many games that are fun for little kids, but few can capture the bulk of the market which is comprised of teenagers and hardcore gamers. 90% of its games a duck hunt type games. Give the Wii the ability to play games like other consoles, with a good controller, and the Wii could become the most versitile console on the market.

The PSPgo is a total flop. It offers nothing significantly new. The games will continue to be limited by a single hat control. Additionally, there were many features that simply got ignored. The fact is that some mobile phone offer more features that the PSPgo. To make things worse, consumers will need to repurchase downloadable games because the UMD is gone. Who likes to buy things twice? Did they not learn anything from the XBOX360? The PSP does have one thing going for it. It is extremely reliable. You can buy a refurbished fat PSP-1000 and feel secure in your purchase. Sony is out of touch with consumers. What could have been a versitile handheld device is merely a handheld gaming system with controls miss out on an opportunity to spawn better games for itself. Sony seems to still be competing with Nintendo's DS when it should just concentrate on satisfying consumers and becoming more versitile.

The Nintendo DS is great for young kids. It boasts hundreds of titles. However it lacks true 3D power, the controls to pull it off, and basically has nothing to offer hardcore gamers. The DSi is not a significant improvment over the DS or DS Lite. Granted it does offer an internal camera, but everything else does quite match up against the PSP. The DSi is not, nor has it ever been a true competitor with the PSP. It has a following of little kids, which the PSP should simply ignore.

It's also worth noting, the PS3 remains unhacked, yet the prices on games continue to hold and the console has a history of being the most expensive. Meanwhile, the Wii, which is easily hacked, has the lowest prices of all large consoles. So much for blaming piracy for the prices. Someone is crying wolf.


Bill Andrews   December 4th, 2009 5:13 pm ET

Not a good indicator that MS is quiet on their XBOX sales....hmmmm..


BingBongBros   December 4th, 2009 6:18 pm ET

Not surprised the PS3 is a great system, lot of good exclusive titles and has the best Blu Ray drive. You I like our.......


Matt   December 4th, 2009 9:49 pm ET

The Xbox 360 hardware is starting to peak the well designed PS3 that was designed out out live and out perform the 360 by as much as 5 years. And it is starting gain players from the 360 because the failure rate of the cheaply made 360. The 360 costs less than a Wii to make.
And the new COD MWF2 is causing as much as 60% of 360 systems to crash.


Matt Harris   December 4th, 2009 11:12 pm ET

I ordered a PS3 on Black Friday. It came with two free games. Great deal right? Nope. The system crashed when it tried to update. I never even opened a game. Sony will send me a refurbished system in a month! The thing was right out of the box. Terrible customer service. I have to return the system (I can't exchange because the "bundle" is not in stock on Amazon). I'd basically be out $120 if I had to buy back the system and the games. Plus, I have to return the 6 games I had already bought to three different stores.


souless_lemming   December 5th, 2009 4:21 am ET

I'm a serious gamer, I'd rather sit at home & play video games than watch t.v. or spend money I don't really have going out. I bought my ps3 3 years ago, at the same time my buddy who's a gamer as well bought an x-box (we tried convincing each other to buy the other system) I'm still on my original ps3 (as it should be) while he just had his second x-box completely crash on him, so now he can either give in & buy a third x-box or buy a ps3 and lose all his games. x-box is a joke, they're like old jaguars lots of flash & they look pretty but you'd better have 2 because ones gonna need fixing.


Jared McKee   December 5th, 2009 3:21 pm ET

My friend has an XBOX 360 and it's just about the worst thing ever. It has ruined several of his Halo games and consistently overheats even on a hard surface, standing up. I have a PS3, it's the bigger one with only 40Gigs that we got when it was most expensive. It is greatly reliable for the price, it loads Blu-Ray movies like a boss, plays games smoothly, only issue i have from games is when my internet connection is not so great or someone has smudged the disc. The updates are great and free, and i feel confident buying from the playstation store because they actually tell me how many dollars something is going to cost, unlike with the microsoft points of the XBOX. The visuals are stunning, and you can't use games like call of duty for comparison, you have to use games like motorstorm to judge the graphics. and it's significant differences.


General Heed   December 7th, 2009 12:26 pm ET

The Xbox 360 is much better than the PS3. In reality, both consoles have very similar hardware. And the newer line of 360's are much more reliable than the original models. A lot of people are citing the old problems of the 360 as a downside of the system. But a lot of older problems have been fixed. So the RROD is no longer a valid argument against the Xbox 360. Besides, the PS3 has its equal share of problems and downsides as well. Also, PS3 exclusives aren't that great. Not to mention the fact that some of its exclusives aren't exclusives anymore such as the Metal Gear Solid series. As for Bluray, well, your average PS3 user isn't going to use the PS3 as a home theater bluray system. Most people, will have a dedicated seperate Bluray player meant for a home theater system. Not the PS3. So Bluray isn't a good argument against the 360. They're game consoles. Overall, both systems are mostly equal. Both have their ups and downs. The PS3 has slightly better graphics but the 360 has better exclusives. Another thing I noticed about the PS3 is that when it comes to multi-platform games, the PS3 versions do not use anti-aliasing but the Xbox 360 versions do. That indicates the Xbox 360's hardware can be pushed harder than PS3 hardware.


Blue Scorpion   December 7th, 2009 4:50 pm ET

Wii is the best system hands down. The versatility and game changing attitude that Nintendo hasn't and I dont feel will be replicated by either of the other two major contenders. X-box tried to steal the motion wand design, which looked EXACTLY like the wii controller, but dolled up in black with their button colors, as well as the avatars at the last E3 confrence. There has been no jump in xbox sales and I believe when the numbers drop it will show a slide. Why would anyone invest in a gaming system that destroyed $50 games when the manufacturer could have inserted a .25 cent buffer prelaunch to avoid the problem. Or the fact that the manufacturer (still xbox) shipped with KNOWN faulty software that caused the infamous red ring of death. Strike out for xbox.
PS3 still has time to develop and will see increased sales with the development and release of cheaper systems at cheaper prices.

Wii is just plain amazing for the price and it does what you pay for, plays games. It is simply a gaming machine and nothing more. Why would you need your game machine to play dvds or bluerays when you already have a dedicated player? I say slim it down like Nintendo did, drop the price, and improve quality, all which nintendo did.
Their customer service is excellent too, on the off chance you drop your wii and need a replacement. No worries.


Lord Trevor   December 7th, 2009 5:42 pm ET

In reality both consoles are about even in reliability and hardware they both can be pushed very far and although the xbox graphics arent as good it IS older


UK_Cali Guy   December 7th, 2009 5:53 pm ET

I think all consoles have problems, especially now they are all CD/DVD/Bluray based... We just recieved our Wii back from Nintendo because it needed to be cleaned by them as our Smash Bros Brawl stopped working and it is due to the sensativity of the Wii and reading the double layer discs, this is the second time we have had it repaired, the first because it stopped reading discs completely... so I think all have problems.


JC   December 7th, 2009 6:02 pm ET

I have both an xBox 360 and a Wii. While the xBox was more expensive for the base unit you end up spending more on all the extras like the balancing board...

End of the day, my wii is sitting around collecting dust but I use my XBox almost everyday. the Xbox is allot more then just a gaming system. I use it to watch movies via netflix, stream pictures and videos from my PCs, update my Facebook profile and listen to music.

I have never had a problem with it. It's the best $200 I have ever spent. Allot of value. Wii was a fad and a waste of money.


Dave B   December 7th, 2009 7:57 pm ET

You are all idiots! the 360 and ps3 are both great systems the ps3 lacks lota great game likes 360 but 360 lacks the hardware ps3 has, jeven with the online playstation network is good free and easy to use but xbox live is way better more users and better control over it, and who would buy to blu ray players no one i know of, but in reality there isnt a better system theres just opinions to which is better how bout you all grow up and just buy both ADUH


Mark P   December 7th, 2009 11:00 pm ET

The benchmark for me has always been FIFA game play, and XBOX360 shreds PS3. It is not even close in a side by side comparison. The PS3 has more lag time between when you press the buttons and something happens on the screen. Very frustrating. And I like the controllers better too. Despite its flaws, I would still take the XBOX360 any day.


brad   December 7th, 2009 11:22 pm ET

Xbox 360's hardware can not be pushed harder than a PS3. The PS3 has chip processing- 8 chips total. This is like having 8 core processing. The problem with this type of processing is that it's hard to code for games;therefore, companies code for games for xbox because it's cheaper. If more companies would take the time and spend the money on creating ps3 games, they would be insane. PS3 is better than the xbox on many levels. The software updates will eventually drive more customers towards playstation only making it better.


kp   December 8th, 2009 7:40 am ET

a lot of people on this messageboard sound like bonafide fanboys. i own all three systems and here's my assessment for anyone looking to buy one this christmas for themselves or their kids:

PS3-i mainly got this thing for blue-ray capabilities, and other than metal gear, it doesnt have anything that i couldnt get for my 360. im hoping that it does have a shelf life of ten years and that sony will make some decent games for once in the next 5 years. the controller is not as good as the 360 and its online community doesnt hold a candle to 360. lets hope that the next few years brings us some great titles like it did for us in the 90's with PS1. i would hate to have bought this thing for the price it was when it first came out.

360-is my main go-to console, great online community, cheaper than the PS3, and great lineup of games in terms of sports and FPS titles. my main beef with it is the RRoD and other hardware problems (this is a serious problem). i never thought it would happen to me, but my console crashed the month after my warranty went out and i had to get a new one for 200 bucks! this has happened to almost every person i know that owns one. what a hustle, but i had to, if i ever wanted to make use of all the money i invested in it already (online member ship, games, periphs). also, the 360 doesnt have wifi capabilities out of the box and you have to drop 100 bucks or so just to get the adapter, meaning if youre not near an ethernet cable youre screwed.

wii-love this console, has a handful of great titles and always gets a ton of use especially when me and my friends are drinking, or if we have girls over. i dont have a problem as much with its graphics and proccessing power as much as i do with the s*** storm of crappy games you have to wade through just to find a good one. nintendo used to have a seal of approval that they took seriously in the 80's and 90's but now its like they dont care anymore. my other problem with it is that is the online community is just a damn shame. for a brand that has come up with some of the best multiplayer titles in history that would translate so well with online gaming, nintendo's fear of pedophiles and perverts has scared them away from ever giving us true global competition in games like mariokart and smashbrothers. thanks perverts.

anyway, thats the most honest, objective opinion i can give on the three consoles that i happen to own. hope this helps!


Kriztofer   December 8th, 2009 3:34 pm ET

The PS3 is clearly superior to the Xbox 360, if you think otherwise you are just trying to kid yourself.

Check the facts:

Better graphics
Better exclusives (MGS4, Demons Souls, etc etc)
No charge for online
Better hardware design. (MUCH more reliable than the Xbox 360)
Blue-Ray (for large games you dont need to constantly disk swap, all the data fits on one blue ray disk)

The PS3 is THE premiere hardcore gaming machine, wimps need not apply.


Brian   December 8th, 2009 3:49 pm ET

There are so many comments about how much more expensive the PS3 is than the 360. Is it really? Does the PS3 require its owners to pay for online access; on average $20/mo? I paid $500 for a 160gb PS3 that is wifi out of the box. 360 another $100. I have a built in blu-ray player. The 360 owner spent another $250 to $300 to buy a blu-ray player. So over a 24 month period I spent $500 on my PS3. While the 360 owner paid $480 for online gaming, $100 for wifi, and $250 or so for a blu-ray player. Who got the better deal?


Chris   December 8th, 2009 4:02 pm ET

General Heed, one of the only reasons I bought a Ps3 was because it had a blu-ray player. Back when it was close to the cheapest blu ray player, I jumped all over it. There was no reason I should spend 300 on a blu ray player when for a tad more I could have got a Ps3 and although I sold my Ps3 awhile back. Im looking at getting another one.

Iv owned both consoles and can tell you for sure that the Ps3 is the better of the two. Turn on a 360 and let it warm up...put your hand behind it and feel how hot it is...do the same to the ps3 and you'll find the 360 is a freaking heater.


General Heed   December 8th, 2009 4:13 pm ET

kp, I agree with your assessment. However, when you buy a game for the Wii, if it's not an Wii exclusive game, then you shouldn't buy it for the Wii simply because you'll have a better gameplay and quality experience on the 360 and PS3.

Now the Xbox 360, despite being the oldest, is still the best console to get. It's cheap, it's still powerful, and it has a great game library and tons of awesome exclusives. I've noticed that loading times for PS3 games take longer than loading times for Xbox 360 games. Yes, PS3 does have a new powerful Cell Processor. But all that processor does it increase the price of the PS3 without making any significant improvements over the 360. The "8-core" processor is unnecessary for gaming. The best gaming PC's (which are more powerful than consoles), don't even need to go above a 4-core CPU. Really, the CPU isn't that important anymore. What really matters is the GPU for graphics and the amount of RAM. Well, both the 360 and PS3 are pretty much evenly matched in terms of the GPU. It's a matter of opinion about whether ATI is better or worse than nVidia. As for RAM, both consoles also have a similar amount of RAM. So both consoles are virtually the same in terms of hardware power.

Also, yes, the 360 does not have built in wi-fi capabilities and it costs an extra hundred dollars for it. Well that extra hundred dollars pretty much makes the Xbox 360 the same price as the PS3. So basically, the Xbox 360 and PS3 are the same.

Now the Wii, well, it's meant to be a family gaming console. It's not meant to play modern games. If it tries to play modern games, those games usually fail. Take Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare on the Wii. Compare that to the Xbox 360 version. You'll see a huge difference.


russell   December 8th, 2009 4:32 pm ET

I'm reading the complaints about the XBOX360 , and I have to say 360's gaming is much better that the PS3, both systems' crash from time to time , but the complaints about the 360 are old , those things happen with the older systems , I had one system crash and Microsoft repaired it with no problem and for free, had my XBOX back in a couple of months, my brother has a PS3 and it crashed several months ago and he still is unable to get good customer service from Sony , and besides XBOX online play is fantastic even if I do have to shell out a monthly fee for the service has been great , so I think i'll stick with Microsoft until a new system comes onto the market.....


Matt   December 8th, 2009 6:15 pm ET

IMO, the 360 would be the best console on the market if it weren't for the RROD. (Blueray would be nice also)

Lots of pathetic fanboys in here... If your comment is longer than the actual story, than you need to get a life! (Or a job writing pointless blogs for CNN)


Steve J   December 8th, 2009 8:34 pm ET

By the way, it's not a great idea to call people idiots when you can't even make a properly-worded, coherent comment yourself.🙂


Kaceman17   December 8th, 2009 8:51 pm ET

Xbox 360.PS3, Wii, none of these can compare to a decked out PC...NOT MAC lol


Bing Bong Bros   December 9th, 2009 11:17 am ET

For those saying the PS3 doesn't have worthy exclusive titles you obviously have never played a PS3. You have the Uncharted franchise which Uncharted 2 Among Thieves is easily one of the best games of the year(2009), Killzone 2, Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns of the Patriots, Little Big Planet, Infamous, Ratchet and Clank series, Resistance Fall of Man and Resistance 2, Warhawk, Motorstorm 1 and 2, then you have the following that are coming out to look forward to Gran Turismo 5, Heavy Rain, White Knight Chronicles, MAG, God of War 3 (the true GOW).
Yes the 360 also has great titles, the only point I'm trying to prove is to those that say the PS3 doesn't have the game because that statement is not supported.
....You I Like Our......


Bing Bong Bros   December 9th, 2009 11:28 am ET

This story just broke: PS3's are even being used for National Security

It seems generous grandmothers aren't the only ones purchasing PlayStation 3 (PS3) consoles this holiday season. The U.S. Dept. of Defense has announced plans to buy an additional 2,200 PS3s to complement a military supercomputer cluster running on 336 PS3 systems.


Eric James   December 9th, 2009 12:49 pm ET

PS3 Is the better Machine, it was built to outlast the 360 and it will, but where are the exclusives?

Xbox 360 is the real gamers system, if you want exclusives and sweet online play, a lot of people complain about having to replace your system. its 100$ to replace through Microsoft and they normally compensate you with something free ( ive received extra controllers, expedited shipping, free xbox live, and the remote control for the system in one replacement.)


Adam S   December 9th, 2009 1:20 pm ET

"Dedicated XBOX360 users have spend thousands of dollars on multiple replacement systems. In the end, the XBOX360 was the most expensive console for some consumers"

Not true at all. Even as a PS3 owner I know that Microsoft extended their warranty on 360's to I think 3 years. The system costs $299. Even if you were correct, and someone's warranty expired once and they had to buy one replacement, that's $299, not thousands. You comments should be erased as they are false.


eiter   December 9th, 2009 1:21 pm ET

Make that 440,001, cause ill be hitting the store and pick up a ps3 tomorrow. I'm tired at the "circle of death"!


Eric   December 9th, 2009 2:29 pm ET

Why not get all 3 systems, then you don't have to worry about which one is better? And yes, I love to dream!


Wang   December 9th, 2009 5:40 pm ET

The reason why is obvious if you look at any sale papers. Nintendo and Sony are offering great holiday deals on their systems, you just have not seen any great holiday deals yet with the 360. Come on, MS!


jOeBloW   December 9th, 2009 7:44 pm ET

As the owner of a ps3, an xbox 360, and a wii consol, I have to say that from a users end perspective towards serious gaming, the 360 is king.

The ps3's online system may be free, but you get what you pay for. It's simply not as stable or as well laid out as Xbox Live. This is not just my opinion... look at the sales. I've had my xbox 360 for 3 years now. Having played over 2,000 hours of the Call Of Duty series on my xbox 360, I do not question its durability. On the other hand, I know of two ps3's that crashed from the new Modern Warfare 2 game.

When each consol breaks, your experience will differ greatly. Microsoft replaces all consoles less than 3 years old free of charge. Expect to be playing again within a week of making the phone call.

The ps3 on the other hand, is a nightmare to get replaced, and impossible to get repaired. Sony has denied coverage from their 1 year limited warranty for problems ranging from dust to accusing the user of plugging the system into a surge protector, which also violates warranty.
Though to be fair, the ps3 does make a good bluray player.... If only anyone really cared about bluray. If market share is any indication, bluray will be phasing the dvd out around the same time the starship enterprise is making it's maiden voyage.

As a serious gamer, for my money and for your kids entertainment, go with the xbox. You wont regret it.


Shant   December 10th, 2009 1:12 am ET

Im hearing comments stating that the ps3 is more expensive! What? Are you kidding me its 299! The same price as the 360! Its has blu-ray, wifi,free online....! And wait, then there are people stating that it has no games. What? Ratchet&clank,Warhawk, killzone 2,motorstorm,metal gear, Gran turismo, Heavenly sword, God of war, Heavy Rain........! There are more ps3 exclusives combined then there is on the 360. So stop with the false statements! The 360 is great butknow that the prices are equal there is no comparison between the ps3 & 360.


Bryan   December 10th, 2009 1:28 am ET

I believe the tide has finally turned. Xbox360..your days are numbered!


Mr. Moo   December 10th, 2009 9:14 am ET

Shock Troop [MDK] .... In regards to the Wii's "Clumsy" input systems... it's not clumsy, it's elegant. One does not just play Wii by twiddling thumbs, but by moving the controller in physical space and only at times by pressing the buttons.

Even in single player games the Wii is fun for groups because just watching someone else play is fun ('though not as much fun as the actual playing). While many Wii games can be played just sitting and moving the controller a bit ... you just WANT to get up and jump around and be all "active". It's so much fun!

Yes the Wii is not photorealistic – but it's a game – and for a game the plays the thing. Wii play well.

The Wii isn't perfect. It's only gaming system system is difficult to use, but on the other hand protects one from "pervs" because you have to know someone before you can link to them.

General Head: Modern games? If XBOX and PS3 three are "Modern" than the Wii is in the "Future". What they have is graphics, what the Wii has is Fun.

OeBloW: Some of us DO care about blue ray.


Sam   December 10th, 2009 10:20 am ET

The MGS series is only on the Playstation. The new Raiden game coming out on both systems is not a game directied by Kojima, making it hardly a MGS game.

The arguement that the PS3 has no exclusives is a farce. This argument is even more invalid than the one about the RRoD only on older systems; that one at least still revelant to an extent. Gran Turismo, Demons Souls, Uncharted, Rachet and Clank, God of War, Killzone, Metal Gear Solid, Heavy Rain, LittleBigPlanet, Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, Resistance. What do you call those?

Don't even get me started on the hardware comparisions. The 360 is a joke compared to the PS3 in that department.

Don't get me wrong, I do like the 360...only because I like Halo 3, and a few rpgs here and there on it. But they'll all eventually be ported to the PC, or overshadowed by better ones that will be coming out. (FF13 Versus, anyone?)

Microsoft lost, GFG. Anything it had on the PS3 no longer exists, other than Live. Give PSN a few more years, and we'll see what happens.


Sam   December 10th, 2009 10:31 am ET

I just read one guy's essay on how the Wii is better.
Its made of plastic. The PS2 is better than the Wii in terms of graphics. Nintendo recycles its successful franchises shamelessly, offering little innovation on its new games. A discerning gamer should be able to realize at the very least that the Wii is for family/social fun/kids under 13, not for a person who actually plays, you know, video games. Just because it sells better due to it appealing to a wider range of audience doesn't make it better. Not at all.

We'll see how much you enjoy waving around your hands around for 2 more years waiting on your 300 dollar shinier piece of plastic from Nintendo playing games for 10 year olds while the rest of us actually play games worth our times. FUN STUFF


Chuck   December 10th, 2009 1:14 pm ET

Lol Eric, the Xbox is a true gamers system. I have a 360, A busted Wii, and friends PS3 he sold me, as well as a Hand-built Gaming PC. Sure, I love the 360 (But I hate paying) the PS3 is meh, and the Wii takes a while to get used to. I personally prefer PC, it's an all purpose machine. Also, to whoever boasted that the PS3 becuase it has an 8-core processor, it doesn't. It is a single core processor with 7 SER's, slow.


Chuck   December 10th, 2009 1:15 pm ET

-EDIT- Reading this, all I see are a bunch of console fanboys flaming about which system is better. This is why PC gamers want to be different... to stay away from this... this is CNN guys, not youtube.


Jason   December 10th, 2009 2:33 pm ET

All of these systems have their benefits, and it really comes down to how you want to play your system when deciding which to purchase.

I'm 26, and I've grown up with Nintendo since the age of 3. I know the merits of every gaming system in existence, and lived in the "Mario vs. Sonic" rivalry years, and one thing is always apparent; people polarized themselves to whatever system they had, and yet still had a BLAST playing games on the other consoles when provided the chance.

And being fortunate enough not to have learned my preference from a website but from actually trying and then purchasing all of these systems, I can safely say the following.

1) Xbox 360 – If you enjoy the concept of having thousands of people to choose from as playmates, and also enjoy retro (1985-1995) gaming, this is the console to look at.

2) PS3 – If you're big on graphical/technological advancement, nothing on the console market will be as good for you as the PlayStation 3. This system delivers on several fronts from this angle, and though its more expensive than the other consoles, Sony tries really hard to give you the most bang for your entertainment buck. Blueray having won it's format war is also an ace in the hole for Sony, since MS banked on HD winning... and lost.

3) Wii – This is the system that everybody talks about, but this is a casual gamers best friend. With several games each offering several mini games that are often light hearted and easy to learn, Nintendo really strives to let a large group of people have a an awesome experience on its console. This philsophy differs from MS in that the 360 is about searching out other gamers worldwide, while Nintendo is more of the "in house" styling, with everybody in the same room sharing the fun and experience.

Beyond that, theres nothing to discuss really. Fanboys will be Fanboys, but only because they can't readily admit to themselves or apparently anybody else that they would probably enjoy the experiences offered on other consoles.

Just a 20 year gamer's perspective


Joshua   December 10th, 2009 4:33 pm ET

Well, the actual computing hardware of the PS3 isn't much more powerful than the XBox360. In fact, they are either equivical or the XBox360 really wins out. Where you really make your money is on disc capacity. The fact of the matter is that PS3 games are released on Blu-Ray discs (for the most part). BD's hold at minimum 25 GB of space (with Maximum of 1 layer), whereas the DVD holds a maximum of 10 (with 3 layers). That means you have at least double the capacity, and possibly as much as 7 times the capacity on BD's.

What does this mean? It means that the PS3 can offer just as much in terms of graphics, gameplay, control, and interface while offering much more content. It means more space for textures, more space for AI, more space for... everything.

And sure, space isn't going to make your av's move smoother, it isn't going to make your AI any "smarter". But its going to make your gameplay richer. For that reason, and that reason alone we are going to continue to see games getting better and better with the PS3, as we begin to see wiser and greater utilization of space, while the XBox is going to plateau.

Now, I own all three systems, and I think all three have great unique features that make them worth having. But the bottom line, bottom dollar bet for this year, and for the next few years is going to be the PS3. Oh, and it looks better on the shelf, and in your living room. And lets not forget that Blu-Ray is where its at in terms of video collection.

That said, who knows where the future will take us. The PS3 being so much more capable in terms of space will probably mean that we are going to see the XBox next Gen all that sooner. And that rules!

J


General Heed   December 10th, 2009 4:48 pm ET

Here are the specs for the Xbox 360 and PS3 hardware.

Xbox 360 & PS3: Both have 3.2 Ghz Processors so they're almost the same there. The PS3 doesn't have an 8 core processor. It has a Cell Processor which has 7 SPE's. So not much difference.

Xbox 360: 500 Mhz ATI "Xenos" GPU
PS3: 550 Mhz nVidia GPU
(Not Much Difference)

Xbox 360: 512 MB for CPU & GPU, 10 MB EDRAM (Total Memory=522 MB)
PS3: 256 MB for CPU, 256 MB for GPU. (Total Memory = 512 MB)
(Both have the same memory although the Xbox 360 technically has an additional 10 MB).

So there you have it. The hardware specs. Someone mentioned that there's a huge gap between the two systems? Well, I clearly don't see any gap at all. The difference between the Xbox 360 and PS3 in terms of hardware power is like a pocket calculator.

There's barely any difference between the two consoles. This flamewar is unnecessary. Both sides won't admit that the Xbox 360 and PS3 are virtually the same.

And to those saying the XBox 360 barely has any exclusives well here you go: Halo 3, Gears of War, Fable, Forza Motorsport, Left 4 Dead, Mass Effect, Quake 4, Saints Row, and more. The list goes on. These games are clearly more popular and better-selling than the PS3 exclusives that people keep listing.

Also, Metal Gear Solid: Rising is part of the main MGS series. So MGS is NO LONGER a PS3 exclusive. Face it, Microsoft is buying out a lot of PS3 exclusives. Soon there will be very few left.

And to make my point one more time, newer Xbox 360's made within the past 6 months or so, have a very small chance of getting RROD. The only errors with the 360's now is probably software error which can be easily patched. I've had my Xbox 360 repaired for free by Microsoft once and ever since then, it's been a very quiet and cool console with no signs or RROD since then. That was over 2 years ago.


Timothy   December 10th, 2009 6:01 pm ET

Jason you really said it best. It is ashamed we cannot discuss things logically without fanboys in the mix. Your perspective is refreshing. kof4life at mac dot com


Sam   December 11th, 2009 10:48 am ET

The cell processor alone totaly trumphs whatever the 360 has in it. Developing games for the cell processor is a complicated and long process, and the games have not pushed the limits of the cell processor, whereas the 360's limits are being reached. I've taken apart a 360, and it's unimpressive. It also has no blue tooth, no wifi, and the controllers take batterys. Care to add on the additional costs?

If you think MGS: Rising is a core game, then you're way over your head. Its not even directed by Hideo Kojima, THE EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF ALL METAL GEAR SOLID GAMES. IS METAL GEAR SOLID 4 A 360 GAME? DONT THINK SO BUD. Its not even a stealth-action game.

I was making RRoD point to counter your weak "no exclusives" BS. Your basically saying, np RRoD is irrevelant for the millions of buyers who have purchased an older system and now have to deal with all the crap that it came with due to MS rushing their system out to get an advantage.

Sales mean nothing about the quality of the game, bud. Saints Row? are you kidding me? Half of those "exclusives" you mention are ported to the PC, sorry to rain on your parade. All the PS3 exclusives I've mentioned are only playable on the PS3, and are top notch games with respectable reviews from any mag/blog/website. All the games you've mentioned have a "counter part" in the PS3 exclusives list, i.e. GoW and Resistance. And if you think Forza has sold better than the Gran Turismo series, you better go check your sources.

But really, in the end, your opinion is biased, my opinion is biased. We'll just see whose more right a few years down the road.
Read Joshua's post on why I think I'm right.

By the way, MGS 4 took over 90% of the memory avaliable on the Blu Ray disk, which is ~70 GB. HD disks have ~25 GB. If, for some reason only know to God, that MGS4 goes on the 360, I hope you have to pay 180 dollars for it, since its on 3 disks.


jahnetik   December 11th, 2009 11:51 am ET

I'm just speaking from experience here....

I've always been a Sony guy so obviously I'll pick the PS3 as my choice because I've never had problems with their consoles (bought my PS3 when it first came out, no problems). I have some friends who have XBOX's and 360's and besides it being able to play cracked games, they speak pretty ill of the consoles. I have an old XBOX but it's strictly for running XBMC media center.

I find that Wii is good for little get-togethers with friends but looses it's value when it comes to immersive games like COD or MSG that are enjoyable single campaign games. I can't really take people seriously when they even compare Wii to powerhouse consoles like PS3 and 360. Serious gamers should only look at a Wii as a kid brother in my opinion. PS3 would be more like a girlfriend LOL


Dragun   December 11th, 2009 5:02 pm ET

WOW......talk about some heated exchanges! I am in my mid 30's, i have been playing consoles since the Atari 2600, and the fact is if you base any opinion on these consoles out of some misguided form of brand loyalty you are truly cheating yourself out of some serious fun.

First off i own a XBOX 360, had an original, was devastated by the RRoD, but was given a refurb and so far so good. The online play through XBOX live is absolutely, above reproach the Best out of all three consoles. I absolutely love all the new features Microsoft has been pouring in, such as Netflix, Facebook status, and lets not forget the "crème de la crème" XBOX Live Arcade. I mean seriously i think i have spent more getting games off of there then i have on the regular games!

Now i recently bought a PS3, and though its been a bit buggy at times, the graphics are quite nice on my 42" 1080p lcd, and lets face it, i wanted BlueRay in my room and that, not necessarily the games was its main selling point. Some of the later exclusive titles have been worth it, however i still find myself buying the multi-platform games for my XBOX over the PS3, especially if their online multilayer based.

I have also bought my daughter a Wii for Christmas this year, now a couple of friends of mine have the Wii, and yes, the graphics aren't nearly as good, but the gameplay aspect absolutely makes for some good times.

So i guess in the end play whatever system has the games, features and game play style ya like, and be happy we actually have this many choices!!!


TC   December 11th, 2009 7:30 pm ET

PS3 and Wii Rules!


Matt   December 13th, 2009 5:46 pm ET

I own all the consoles and I'm happy with each of them.

The Xbox 360 provides the best in online gaming on a console because Xbox Live features a fantastic Party Chat option that doesnt mandate using a VIsion camera while chatting, unlike the PS3. Although you pay $50 annually for it's service, its not that bad of a price but the Playstation 3 has free online service (Soon thats about to change with the Premium plan sometime in 2010.) My gripe with the Wii is the friend code, a very unreliable option and I have yet to play a game online with the Wii and I own SSBB and Mario Kart Wii.
My favorite "console" this gen is probably the DS and PSP because they both have offered more RPG's than the Xbox 360, Wii and Playstation 3 combined. I'm not talking about Western RPG's like Dragon Age, Fallout 3, Borderlands, Mass Effect, Oblivion. Yeah, most of those are pretty good but they don't have alot of JRPG's except for Lost Odyssey, Tales of games and the upcoming Final Fantasy XIII on 3/9/10. I believe that no console will top the PS2 or Dreamcast. My top five consoles are:

* Sega Dreamcast
* Playstation
* Super Nintendo
* Nintendo 64
* Playstation 2


BingBongBros   December 14th, 2009 4:59 pm ET

2009 Video Game Awards:
2009 Game of the Year -Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (PS3 Exclusive)
2010 Most Anticipated Game – God of War III (PS3 Exclusive)


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