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December 11, 2009

Tiger's one-sided Web conversation

Posted: 08:40 PM ET

When they're not trolling TMZ, people surfing the Web for updates on the Tiger Woods' scandal go to Woods' own Web site, where on late Friday afternoon he posted a statement saying he is taking an indefinite hiatus from professional golf "to focus my attention on being a better husband, father, and person."

The site, which has seen a huge spike in visitors since Woods' post-Thanksgiving traffic crash, is also where Woods posted a much-publicized Dec. 2 apology under the euphemistic headline, "Tiger comments on current events."

If you're scoring at home, in the past nine days that makes two comments by Tiger - and more than 24,000 comments by fans and other visitors to the site, which has become perhaps the leading Web forum for people expressing their support or disgust over his behavior.

Twenty-four thousand comments - considering that a popular blog or news site is lucky to get 500 comments on a post, that's pretty remarkable. They run the gamut, from "Let the healing begin" to "I will not look up to a disgrace like you!" to "please read some Deepak Chopra." Most of the comments, however, have been supportive.

Is Tiger reading any of them? Who knows? Either way, it's pretty much a one-way conversation. But until Woods emerges from seclusion to discuss his sorry situation, it's a conversation that plenty of people seem more than willing to have.

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Tony   December 11th, 2009 9:25 pm ET

I think while Tiger Woods did a bad thing, I also think it is the business of nobody but him and his wife. People are reporting on this like he is the first man on the planet to be unfaithful to his significant other. Seriously people. Get a life! For all of you "He was my kids role model" people. Well this is an excellent opportunity to sit your children down and explains some things about the real world so you can perhaps decrease their likelyhood of making the same mistakes.


jim   December 12th, 2009 11:27 am ET

I like what Jack Nicklaus said about all this – when asked what he thought, he said: "Its none of my business..." Of course, media people love scandals. It justifies their existence. Don't waste your time at their speculations and righteous indignations over what Tiger does or what he doesn't do. Leave the man alone.


Manuel   December 12th, 2009 5:59 pm ET

It's the classic case of what the media loves to do to all celebrities: Build them up to bring them down.


Dave Seavy   December 12th, 2009 8:53 pm ET

Bill Clinton didn't take it on the chops like Tiger is. Some rather messed up priorities and role models here.


Mr. M   December 13th, 2009 12:08 am ET

If Tiger Woods was your role model – you need a life!


Nico   December 13th, 2009 5:13 am ET

Tony, you misunderstand. The issue is really not about his human frailty or indiscretions. The issue is he led his fans and sponsors to believe he is squeaky clean while he is not. His honesty and credibility is the one in question. It's the same as a swindler or con artist. He's like a Bernie Madoff or Charles Manson who would use lies and deceit for his personal gain. That is everybody's business. While I agree that nobody is perfect, it is the public figures like him that have to set the standard of behavior and lying is definitely just not acceptable.


Bill   December 13th, 2009 10:06 am ET

If Tiger quit, I play golf but I won't be watching any golf.


whiteywatd   December 13th, 2009 11:46 am ET

Tiger only mirrors society at that level. The Congress, Hollywood, Sports, Religion and Corporate all exhibit social destructive activity's. The whole concept of "Marriage" is under attack by those who reach the highest levels of wealth and power. It comes with the territory and should be taken for granted.


Willliam Reed   December 13th, 2009 1:32 pm ET

I agree 100% with Tony. Why are all thesse people getting into his business. If this was a man next door to you, you would not even bother, but yet when it comes to someone famous everybody gets in an uprohr. Leave Tiger alone he has to many other things on his place, Like his family


Tony Wilson   December 13th, 2009 5:58 pm ET

I think Tiger isn't a bad guy just being a rich man .He only made two mistakes 1 being rich and getting married why would you get married when you can have all you want and any woman you want and this would never happen. 2nd getting married but should of told her if you want to be with Me (tiger) I'm rich and I'm a Player.and it isn't going to stop. Tiger you go man your sleeping with some hot chicks more power to you.


Gary   December 13th, 2009 7:35 pm ET

Of course what he did is bad. Of course it's no one's business but his own family But that's simply not the reality. You choose a public life, this goes along with it. He's happy to accept the positive attention. You can't control the negative attention. The best you can hope to do is manage it. And his philosophy on managing his privacy works when you live a clean life. But if you have something to hide, aggressively hiding it is just drawing more attention to it. Now...not only is it an interesting tidbit, but it's a secret...People love finding out secrets.


RC   December 13th, 2009 11:53 pm ET

Right now, Tiger is doing all he can do... staying out of sight and out of the press. Why? Because of reporters like you Brandon Griggs, who refer to his situation as "sorry". What gives YOU the right to label him or his situation as "sorry". The ONLY reason this is such a sensation is because Tiger is who he is. If this was a regular John Doe from Main Street USA who had extramarital affairs, no one would care... but this is Tiger Woods. A celebrity, and the biggest name in golf... so now he's not a human being capable of making mistakes... Is that what you would have everyone believe? No, you would rather crucify this man in the press. And you wonder why he he chooses not to discuss this matter.
If anyone is SORRY, it's reporters like you writing stories like this.


Peter   December 14th, 2009 8:24 am ET

look people we must be ashamed of how we are all treating this situation about a man who just so ggod in his sports.

First this is human nature to make such sidesprings, more over its not a crime to have a sidespring ,its just unfair in a marriage relationship.

But just the consequencies shown to him by all his sponsors it rather shameful.

its rather good they could hold on and support him in such situations , afterall he did help all those organisations with his image.

thanks


CanadianMan   December 14th, 2009 12:01 pm ET

I love how people say "His honesty and credibility is the one in question"
Since when does golf promote honesty and credibility? Its your own fault for ASSuming he was honest and credible. All he ever promoted was his products and his golfing, everyone else wanted him to be a good family man and be this larger then life person.

Fact is, anyone who looks at a celebrity and thinks "he is a great role model for my kid" obviously hasn't learned from past "role models" who did the exact same thing Tiger has done.

The definition of insanity is repeating the same mistake over and over expecting different results. Anyone who uses a celebrity as their role model is insane in my opinion.
Childrens role models should be their parents and/or family members, take responsibility for your children's lives and stop blaming celebrities for teaching them bad things.


Veronica   December 14th, 2009 12:16 pm ET

Frankly, its no ones busniess, that between him, his wife and God. For all you people out there pointing fingers and branding him with the Scarlett letter, how is it that you dont bat an eye when they have these said " mistresses " on national tv giving out details about what they did together. They knew he was married and now we are making them out to be some sort of Saints that get airtime just to let the WHOLE country know that they are the lowest kind of women out there.I heard one blogger call them Road Beef and thats just what they are. Maybe someone should call a spade a spade and also give these home wrecking women something to be ashamed about rather then glofiy their villiany.


Parry   December 14th, 2009 12:42 pm ET

Is deceit of a nation or the world acceptable? Is John Doe from Main Street responsible for so many adolescent's world views? There are a hundred similar questions that I could ask? Not knowing the true scope of his situation, we can judge and say his actions are sorry and unforgivable. Until we know whether or not Elin knew of these "transgressions" and accepted them, Tiger betrayed her, his children, and the hopes of so many that believed him a truly pure and astounding figurehead of goodness. There is no other argument. Either you buy into marriage and live up to it or you live by the code of infidelity and be that person, at which point no one will ever look at you harshly for lying to so many. It is blissful to know that I love only the love of my life, if you can never see yourself appreciating that feeling stay away and save your comments for the moment when logic pats you on the back and says "go on, speak your mind".


Buzz   December 14th, 2009 2:55 pm ET

Is there any chance they will let pictures to be taken at golf tournaments other than the non-tournament practice days? Even then, its difficult to take pics because of all the boundaries in place. I sure would like to use my new tamron 18-270 to take some pics of Tiger when he gets outta bed and back onto the tour. This circus is going to take a while to subside and will start up again once he returns. Hopefully only for a short while. I would like to see Tiger make amends with his family, friends, and fans. But I am not expecting this. http://www.tamron18270.com


Jon R.   December 14th, 2009 5:40 pm ET

Since when is it okay for women to pursue an obviously "not-single-anymore" guy? Oh...I forgot. I guess if a guy is wealthy he's always fair game, married-or-not.


Raf   December 14th, 2009 8:46 pm ET

Peter.... What is a sidespring?? You mean offsprings? I'm sure Tiger has a lot of those out there with different women.. but again, thats HIS choice and HIS life. People should worry abou their OWN life and let Tiger just be.


edmond   December 15th, 2009 12:26 am ET

Just another soap opera filling in between real news at the expense of someone who made mistakes, but committed no crime. But if we really want to hold him as a whipping boy, I would agree with Tony, who said that the mistake Tiger made was getting married at all. I wonder if his wife, a no-name bikini model, would have flocked to Tiger had he not been Tiger? And isn't that the same reason why all these women flocked to Tiger? I'm sure she knew what she was getting herself into. She should just enjoy her unlimited spending power, her Gucci shoes, Prada bags, and cruising around in her yacht to her villas and resort living across the world or going on jaunts in a private jet or helicopter. Tiger is just being a man- a very rich, very successful, and by all accounts, a very decent guy. So what if he gets some on the side? As long as he treats his wife and children well that's all that counts. He could just as easily not get married like George Clooney, and then he could still be a nice guy. Yeah, maybe his wife has the right to complain if anyone, but who the hell are all these other people holding him to a standard and judging him? A bunch of bitter losers with too much time and hate.


Derek   December 15th, 2009 8:31 am ET

I would not go as far as comparing Tiger to Bernie Madoff and/or Charles Manson in any way. Tiger has always been a man of class and sophistication. I understand his recently divulged indiscretions did not display those characteristics however he is handling this situation like a gentlemen. I was actually disappointed he responded to the media. It is no one's business what happens with him or his family. People need to lay off the man and allow his family to deal with their current predicament. Tiger can still be considered a role model.


Michael   December 15th, 2009 10:31 am ET

YOU'RE THE MAN TIGER!!! Hardest working man in professional sports, hehe. Really though, divorce your wife, keep playing golf and enjoy your life. No need to front for anyone. Just do you! you will come back better then ever.


serge   December 15th, 2009 12:18 pm ET

Kids, the story is no longer Tiger. He's the most famous sports star in the world. Chicks throw themselves at him. For how long is a red blooded American boy supposed to chase them off. The story is these hustlers. These women chasing stars, the attention and everyone of them, waiting, hoping to cash in. They're coming out of the woodwork. They all have tapes, notes, emails, they've been plotting. Sorry ladies, these girls are tramps. Tiger is just servicing the community. This Uchitel chick had America's number #1 ambulance chaser the despicable Gloria Allred just waiting for the moment. She backed off from her press conference because she had NO case. But every celebrity is now forewarned. Frisk them.
Leave no messages. Be just as cynical as these women. And everyone of these girls has the same kind of stories and notes on dozens of other guys. Check it out. They have lawyers, agents, press agents and pimps. Access Hollywood, Entertainment Tonight, all those gossip show are connected, Mario Lopez lol. The Salahi's same deal slightly different story. What a joke. Even Palin's in the ball game $16 for a photo with her. Free Levi Johnston.

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Dan Kirby   December 15th, 2009 12:59 pm ET

I have been playing golf for 40 years, I am a fan of many great golfers. There is no one golfer that I have to idolize to improve my game. Golf will survive after Tiger Woods just as it has survived Bobby Jones' passing. I agree with Jack Nicklaus, its none of my business. You sponsors that are bailing on him, shame on you. Tiger, money cannot buy happiness.


Rico   December 15th, 2009 1:26 pm ET

There is a tremendous amout of wasted time thinking of what moral compass Tiger Woods is guiding his life by. Now i truly can not speak for anyone but myself, but if the life style that people live dictate wether or not they should be admired for their amazing talents then what would we be able to utilze as we strive for excellence ourselves? I truly love the diplomatic ventures, writings, and intellectual concepts of Benjamin Franklin, yet if I were judging these things by his personal "unsavory" endeavors I would disregard all of his achievements as a whim of "accidental" success, because aparently imperfect people do not deserve to have their great achievements admired. A hero is not someone who lives a perfect life but one who has achieved what seems the impossible to us, and in that respect allowing us to believe we can do the same.


John   December 15th, 2009 11:58 pm ET

We all have our faults and short comings. Tiger Woods' transgressions are only proof that we ALL have sinned and that none of us are perfect.

Would anyone care about Tiger's sexual escapades if he was white? Or if the women he was with were black or hispanic? I seriously doubt it. The truth is because Tiger Woods is the most well known black golfer and that he was having multiple affairs with WHITE women, makes this story so scandalous. He had an squeaky clean "good boy" appearance and now that appearance has been tarnished. Would we really care if his reputation or appearance were similar to other black athletes? Again, you be the judge.

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Chris   December 16th, 2009 3:17 am ET

Tiger is a fantastic golfer but a dismal role model. He not only deceived his wife with more than a dozen sex friends, but also each one of his partners and the world at large. There are also report of him being cheap, not leaving tips at restaurants and asking to have his bill waived on account of being Tiger, to the great embarrassment of those with him. That companies such as Nike and Tag Heuer choose to stick with him really makes you wonder about the judgment of their management. How could such megabrands elect to have their name associated with a personality that has turned out to be such a liability–a serial adulterer and cheapo with no morals? Not very classy representation, I would say. I for one will be staying away from Nike and Tag Heuer until they come to their senses.


James   December 16th, 2009 10:56 am ET

I look proudly to the day when Tiger will come back to active golf. Why? Because, the guy said he is sorry and asked for forgiveness. Why should we really judge him? Are we clean and sinless? Before we start crying wolf the role model that we(sic) gave him, and throwing stones to Tiger, we should also look upon ourselves.


CW   December 16th, 2009 2:15 pm ET

I hope his wife can forgive him and he can forgive himself.
We all have faults, every single person. How terrible to have them rated publicly. I send him light, he needs it.


pinoyeto   December 16th, 2009 6:48 pm ET

he played golf extremely well, then all the sponsoring companies aligned themselves and their products as also the best in their business... and the girls lined up too. he did not sell himself as a good father of a family or choosed to be a public figure! si picking up a girl at the bar stopped or became taboo in the USA already?, if not, what the fuzz!


Evan   December 17th, 2009 4:19 am ET

Many of the mega name brands are already too invested into the name Tiger Woods and his PGA rankings. Even though his image has already been dramatically affected his ranking in golf has not.

If and when Tiger returns to golf and his golf play reflects on these events you will start to see majority (possibly the rest) of the sponsors jump ship. If his golf game holds up well and Tiger stays out of trouble many old sponsors and even new sponsors will be itching to come back. For companies it is a combination of profits and image.

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kitchenmom   December 17th, 2009 10:09 am ET

It is common knowledge that Tiger is married man. We also know that there are a lot of women who are like leeches and would go for men with money married or not. Tiger was weak but then there were probably a lot of temptations and women who threw themselves at him.


FuzzyZ   December 17th, 2009 12:35 pm ET

So what if Tiger is a closet FREAK. I'm sick of hearing details like he wears his baseball cap while having sex with hookers. Leave the guy alone. Tiger has the money to throw at hookers so let him. He is not the only celeb with a huge freaky sex addiction.


Sanescience   December 18th, 2009 4:52 am ET

OMG!!! Super Rich Young Man has affairs with young attractive forward women? This is ASTOUNDING! Its as if this story hasn't played out a million times already. One more example of well documented human nature of "Alpha Males" and why women pursue them. Might as well blame the man for blinking when you clap in his face.


Johann   December 18th, 2009 11:14 am ET

its not a bad thing Tiger did, its a human thing.
We are all human, make HUMAN errors, but are they even errors?
I say the people who are judging Tiger need to look and see how perfect they are. There is only one perfect person free of sin, and that is me. Yeah I hope that offended you, because this insult of "oh my look what Tiger did" was just as offensive.
Oh what now he cant play Golf anymore?
I say shut the the hell up and look at your own crimes.
WE ALL ARE SINNERS, I say that we have a good time, and sin some more!!


Navyboy   December 19th, 2009 2:52 am ET

Haaa haaaa haaa
Tiger got bit.
I don't feel bad for him at all. He is getting what he deserves.
He was an arrogant pig, and a cheap skate as well.
I hope his soon to be ex takes him to the cleaners. I wish her good luck in her new life.


CrazeeCarl   December 19th, 2009 9:13 am ET

Well...I was just gonna say...but it's already been said by someone else. There's only so many comments people can make on one person who obviously like "holes"

I think Tigger's wife must be a cold bitch at times.

And whatta about the skanks he's been scoring with, did they not know he was married, I think not.


Tessa   December 20th, 2009 4:04 am ET

I totally agree with Tony and Veronica's comments! Tiger is not a saint. Rather, he is human with the ability to make mistakes and decisions...both right and wrong. Everyone needs to be responsible for their personal and family decisions. Let Tiger and his family live their lives and be responsible for their personal and family decisions. It is none of our business!


Bo Howard   December 20th, 2009 8:45 pm ET

Tiger, have fun, do your thing. You will always be known as a great golfer and I will remain a big fan. I was 56 years of age when I hit my first golf ball and my handicap is currently 17. I started playing when you turned pro. God bless your family.
Everybody else who read this message, go to the Book of John Chapter 8. Then be honest with yourself, ask god to forgive you.


leftcoastblue   December 21st, 2009 10:11 am ET

To all those clowns who think Tiger only "did a bad thing . . ."

Tiger actually did HUNDREDS OF BAD THINGS ! ! ! Maybe THOUSANDS?!?!

The Mistress Count is what now? 14? Those were not one-night-stands. Who knows how many of those he had? (Well, Tiger probably does. He may even have kept a card, using one of those little pencils, counting strokes, etc. He's got some experience in that area.)

So people have every right to be critical of him. He has put himself forward as a role model, yet he's only a compulsive cheater.


newfig   December 21st, 2009 2:05 pm ET

. . . and yes, to the regular public, Tiger Woods is an athlete first. Maybe it's not his fault, but he's always been thought of as a very integrious (spelling?) person – more so than the normal person. He just blew that completely to hell. And people who do this sort of this think they will never get caught. How would he feel if his wife was doing the same thing?


Dave   December 22nd, 2009 4:27 pm ET

This characature of Tiger the Magnificent is a byproduct of his closely guarded privacy combined with society's desire to believe that all successful people are saints.

Guess what – the ONLY image that Tiger has protrayed is that of a professional golfer. All golfers look impeccably well dressed while in public – contributing to their squeaky-clean image. However, if you actually watch Tiger play golf, he often has verbal indiscretions in front of millions of viewers.

Tiger is a fantastically talented and wealthy golfer, and he is revered as a God all over the world. It is any wonder he may have developed the attitude that he could do whatever he wants (both on and off the golf course) and get away with it?

I am not making excuses for Tiger's mistakes. However, he is human. Give the man a break.


Ju   December 22nd, 2009 5:23 pm ET

It's not like you are President....don't worry about it...move on life is short!


bozo   December 23rd, 2009 7:21 am ET

Well, another naive white chick finds out what black women have known forever.. successful black men just gotta be players and don't keep it zipped... All that fame goes right to the small brain.. I just wonder how many times he said "... honey I swear that's the last one.." and then another pops up


Yinka Dosunmu   December 23rd, 2009 10:57 am ET

Before the wife there was the Tiger Woods BRAND.... and the brand was never based on the relationship between Tiger and the wife... The brand was based on Tiger's ability to play golf........... Question: Will Tiger survive the "scandal"?......... Answer: Imagine if it hits the news, say, 'tomorrow' that Tiger billed to play golf at ??? The media rating will hit the high heavens – much higher than the pre-scandal rating........... so, was the brand affected? NO!


Ray, aircraft Eng.   December 23rd, 2009 11:02 am ET

READ THIS BEFORE YOUR MAKE JUDGEMENT.....1But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. 2At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. 3The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?" 6They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.

But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." 8Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

9At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. 10Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?"

11"No one, sir," she said.
"Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."


daniel   December 23rd, 2009 11:24 am ET

Nico: really Tiger is like a Madoff or Manson???WTF? If anyone believed that Tiger was Squeaky Clean then they obviously never watched him play and hit a bad shot. But to compare him to a murderer like Manson or a man who swindled people out of their life savings like Madoff makes you a complete and utter idiot. You need to come off you soapbox. Tiger is the best golfer out there and that is why companies paid him millions to be a sponsor. Michael Jordon was paid millions and he cheated on his wife and gambled and oh wait....that's different right. Tiger did not cheat you or me out of anything. He broke his marriage vows and as great Jack N said that is none of (our) business.


Maureen   December 24th, 2009 11:04 am ET

It is a sad situation for sure. He has put a tarnish on his reputation as a "clean cut" fellow, has disappointed first his family and second his fan base. However, whatever his actions were it is now up to him to correct them and to TRY to resolve the issue. He is a human being and as such is imperfect. Granted being imperfect MULTIPLE times is a bit much yet he is still allowed to be an ahole...as we all are. His problem is that he is too well known so in my eyes he should have been a bit more watchful of his actions and should have re-thought what he was about to do because NOTHING is EVER completely kept secret. Think with the head on your shoulders Tiger for that is where your conscious resides.
I wish him luck with trying to save his marriage and trying to regain his the trust of his wife.


Bob Logan   January 12th, 2010 3:43 pm ET

At what time during his very impressive golf run did he ever say hey I am The clean living saint you all think I am
All he ever said was he loved his father who encouraged him to practice since the age of 3 I believe. He then went out to win and win and win... He never said hey look at me I am a Saint ? How about chasing Mcgwire for lying while taking steroids. That is a real scumbag


Dinda   February 24th, 2010 3:42 pm ET

The only reason this is such a sensation is because Tiger is who he is. If this was a regular John Doe from Main Street USA who had extramarital affairs, no one would care... but this is Tiger Woods. A celebrity, and the biggest name in golf... so now he's not a human being capable of making mistakes.
They knew he was married and now we are making them out to be some sort of Saints that get airtime just to let the whole country know that they are the lowest kind of women out there.

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John   May 6th, 2010 2:00 am ET

This is too much

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ninel conde   June 29th, 2010 10:48 pm ET

Of course the story is not about an individual.
I know Tiger worldwide. An industry is behind the star.
No longer brands sell their life knowing "secret tiger"

Please, everyone is judging. That happens ALL THE TIME.

The tragedy here, is what the sponsors lost a lot of money.

Ninel
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Marc   September 2nd, 2010 5:54 am ET

What the...? 24 THOUSAND comments? That's incredible.

I have yet to find a platform with this intensity of interaction. How can Tiger possibly think of reacting to even a small part of those comments? I bet it's impossible.

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