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January 12, 2010

Wi-Fi 'allergies' leave man homeless

Posted: 11:31 AM ET

The Santa Fe New Mexican reports a man claiming to suffer from electromagnetic sensitivity is suing his neighbor for refusing to disconnect her electronic devices.

Santa Fe, New Mexico resident Arthur Firstenberg claims that his neighbor Raphaela Monribot's use of electronic devices such as cell phones, computers, compact fluorescent lights and dimmer rheostats is aggravating his "electromagnetic sensitivity" and causing him to get sick.

"Within a day of [Monribot] moving in, I began to feel sick when I was in my house," Firstenberg writes in his affidavit. "The electric meter for my house is mounted on [Monribot's] house. Electromagnetic fields emitted in [Monribot's] house are transmitted by wire directly into my house."

A request for preliminary injunction claims Fristenberg's condition has left him homeless. Fristenberg "cannot stay in a hotel, because hotels and motels all employ wi-fi connections, which trigger a severe illness. If [Firstenberg] cannot obtain preliminary relief, he will be forced to continue to sleep in his car, enduring winter cold and discomfort, until this case can be heard."

The Santa Fe New Mexican notes "Firstenberg's motion is accompanied by dozens of notes from doctors, some dating back more than a decade, about his sensitivities."

However, scientific studies such as this 2005 trial at the Psychiatric University Hospital in Germany suggest electromagnetic sensitivity is strictly a psychosomatic disorder.

The major study endpoint was the ability of the subjects to differentiate between real magnetic stimulation and a sham condition. There were no significant differences between groups in the thresholds, neither of detecting the real magnetic stimulus nor in motor response.

We found no objective correlate of the self perception of being "electrosensitive." Overall, our experiment does not support the hypothesis that subjectively electrosensitive patients suffer from a physiological hypersensitivity to EMFs or stimuli.

Do you acknowledge Fristenberg, and others claiming electronic sensitivity, may be suffering real physiological effects and should be allowed to live free from electronic devices? Or should treatment be strictly psychological?

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AnnaCatherine   January 12th, 2010 11:56 am ET

I myself do not believe this to be a true "illness". I know he is supposed to have doctors notes from the "decades" ago, but how do these doctors really know? I do know that this guy might be able to wear a static strip on his right shoe. That disipates EMP from the body. hmmmm....they only cost about $5.


Dave   January 12th, 2010 12:40 pm ET

If this guy has a problem then he needs to solve it, not look for everyone else to quit living their lives because of his issues. Move the meter. Work with the Electric company. It's not his neighbors' responsibility to take care of his illness. I feel bad for the guy, but seriously, I don't think you get to sue your neighbors for living in the modern world.


Kristina   January 12th, 2010 1:11 pm ET

As much as I would like to believe it is a psychological disorder. I lived with someone who had this disease and that is enough proof for me to believe it is an actual disease. What we found through years of battling this disease was it was the immune system becoming so low that sensitivities developed. At one point, this person was surrounded by so many toxins like carbon monoxide at home (almost near death) and chemicals at work. There is actually a Doctor in Santa Fe, who this person saw. This person I know has made almost a complete recovery because of this Doctor. This man should see this Doctor, especially if he is in Santa Fe, and realize he is not alone.


Rob   January 12th, 2010 1:13 pm ET

Are you kidding me. Give me a break and tell this guy to go live in a hole.


Noah Goldstein   January 12th, 2010 1:17 pm ET

This seem interesting. I remember when all of this new technology came out, my mother became wary of it thinking that it would cause cancer or some medical condition such as this man's. It is sad to think that he cannot use electronic devices.


Nick Marino   January 12th, 2010 1:24 pm ET

okay i admit it might exist, but in that case this guy needs to be proactive and move somewhere far away from electronics. it's not his neighbors fault!!!


Bill Drew   January 12th, 2010 1:27 pm ET

Buy him a roll of aluminum foil to make a foil hat and possibly wrap himself in it.


RYAN   January 12th, 2010 1:48 pm ET

WHAT A RETARD. Everything gives off a small magnetic field. If it is unhealthy, then why do we have MRI's why do they say wearing a magnetic bracelet is healthy (I dont think that is true at all either). Magnetic fields are everywhere, even before electronics. Make sure he is nowhere near an electical storm


Richard   January 12th, 2010 2:08 pm ET

I hope they have video cameras in the courtroom for this one ;)


Bill in Virginia Beach   January 12th, 2010 2:22 pm ET

Tell him to go live with the amish, sheesh, easy fix!!!!


chris   January 12th, 2010 2:37 pm ET

In my opinion i think "electromagnetic sinsitivity" is as real as Michael Jacksons skin condition, It's BS. The the earth has a giant magnetic field the protects our atmosphere lol. So if this guy has a problem with his neighbor using electronic devices then he should just quit living because there isnt any where in this universe that elecromagnet energy dosnt exist.


Kotetu   January 12th, 2010 2:57 pm ET

His illness could very well be real – I think he ought to sell his house and build a cabin in Alaska.


Chris s   January 12th, 2010 3:35 pm ET

I have to agreee with most that this is BS. If he thinks that just because there is a cell phone in the house next to him now, and lights, and computers that this increased his pain is just dumb. 1. if you do or don't have a cell phone the radiowaves are still there. 2. if you do or dont use use wi-fi/wi-max the radio wave travel across many houses, sometimes blocks or miles. Just because his neighbor is now using this items didn't mean it wasn't already there.
Also what about the person that lived in that house before? Did they live like a monk? Even a toster gives off a magnetic field.
In the end the man's illness to him is very real, but all in his head.


Franko   January 12th, 2010 3:41 pm ET

To; Kotet - "His illness could very well be real
– I think he ought to sell his house and build a cabin in Alaska."

HAARP is in Alaska - High Frequency Active Auroral Research
Enough power for climate change and mind control,
Give you a real headache when you are targeted for late payment ?

Cell phones cause short term memory loss
That is why you need lots of electronic devices, as memory enhancers


Tim   January 12th, 2010 4:08 pm ET

I work in IT, and once I was called to help a telecommuter for my employer, the person sufferied from lyme disease, and claimed to be 'hyper sensative' to electronic devices. I had to stand outside the house to repair the laptop. I am no medical doctor, but it could be possible a auidable frequency or suttle smell from electronic devices could cause some to be ill i would believe.


Fruzen Gladje   January 12th, 2010 4:16 pm ET

one word mister: MOVE!
it's not her problem, it's yours.

Move to Alasaka, I bet Palin doesn't know how to use a computer...


joseph taylor   January 12th, 2010 4:29 pm ET

dudes a nut job!!!!!


Vignesh   January 12th, 2010 6:02 pm ET

Hmmm...so if he is near another person does their Electromagnetic field stop him? In fact, how could he live in New Mexico when AT&Ts 3G coverage is all throughout the area ~ constantly transmitting. The coverage doesn't increase just because somebody is using it. Also how does he deal with the Earth's electromagnetic field?

Its probably 100% psychological, and I hope that he can't use this B.S. reason to sue.


Matt Hawn   January 12th, 2010 6:03 pm ET

Psychosomatic or no, he could build a Faraday shield within the walls of his home if he was truly concerned and he could do so for a relatively inexpensive price when compared the amount of suffering he is complaining of, especially if it is chronic.


dom   January 12th, 2010 6:12 pm ET

If this guy has a real disease then i feel really bad for him. That being said......... dude, move. Go move into the woods somewhere. Build a house with no electricity and be well. Don't sue your neighbor for simply living her life.

It is not her fault you are sick and she is not doing anything to intentionally harm you. Did she stick a cell phone under your bed or something? no. She is simply living.

You should move and take care of yourself and leave your neighbor alone.

People stop suing for things like this take responsibility for your own health and do what you need to take care of yourself. Don't make it a neighbors problem.

Do you work? Do you walk into work and tell them they have to turn off everything electronic? geez


Scott   January 12th, 2010 7:26 pm ET

So many people are becoming such babies.
I dont see how some people can survive at all.

Ridiculous.


Dave   January 12th, 2010 8:37 pm ET

I doubt that this guy is suffering, if he is "suffering" from electromagnetic sensitivity I wonder what he does for a living, there is barely a job today that DOES NOT deal with COMPUTERS, even most cars have computer built into them, so this is all in his head. and by the way does this guy live in the stone age?


Lee   January 12th, 2010 8:52 pm ET

All he needs is a electro magnetic conduction poles around his house along with the Fence. That should conduct all the magnectic waves to the ground which would free his home free of EM waves.


Chris   January 12th, 2010 8:53 pm ET

I can't believe this guy could even file for this. This condition is mental and nothing more. I don't see how he can even remotely complain....everyone in America has some sort of electronics in their house.


Joseph   January 12th, 2010 9:06 pm ET

Why doesn't he surround his house (or a room) with sheet metal. That will be a simple solution that will block out electromagnetic energy.


Larry S   January 12th, 2010 9:09 pm ET

Really Now...! and his solution is to sleep in his Car? There are numerous Electrical/Magnetic fields within the average Car. Unless it is Flitstones Car. They are all around us.


Shiva   January 12th, 2010 9:51 pm ET

I am sensitive to electromagnestic waves emitted by all our gizmos. You know what? I subjected myself to everything to raise my tolerance of everything. I want to live a normal life. It is no one else's fault that I am hypersensitive to the world around me. I should go out my way to let others live normally, not the other way around.


Jon   January 12th, 2010 10:06 pm ET

Total BS. Somebody should point out to him that the Earth generates the most intense electric and magnetic fields known to man. Stretch your arms 3 feet vertically. There is a difference of 120 V between those two points.

It shields us (mostly) against the giant nuclear reactor known as the Sun. If it didn't exist, we would all die of cancer.

The magnetic field is so strong, it swings metal to align. Do your compasses point towards your neighbor's house?


Franko   January 12th, 2010 11:22 pm ET

Your stomach and all four balls are µλ heat (not pain) sensitive.
In front of a high power µλ transmitter, no pain while being cooked.

On your lap, near your genetic information,will the power from the
laptop WiFi scramble your chromosomes ?


James   January 13th, 2010 2:17 am ET

Mr. Firstenberg should not sue his neighbour; it's not his neighbour fault!
Instead he should sue SONY, Samsung, Nokia, Motorola, all those electronics giants. While he's at it, he should sue Thomas Edison, Telsa and all those scientists.

Let's see how far he gets with that.


ED , LAS VEGAS NV   January 13th, 2010 5:11 am ET

wow I think this person really needs some professional help, and also i dont belive his claims at all !! is just another trick to try to get some money from some one, the police and attorney should really look at his past under a microscope and i am sure he has more dirt in his past!


Michael   January 13th, 2010 6:50 am ET

Impossible. We are bombarded with RF waves, Microwaves, and Light waves(yes light waves are electromagnetic waves also), all day long every day of our lives. And it doesnt come from us, it comes from the sun. The only difference between the waves coming from our electronics and the waves coming from the sky, is a signal is modulated into it. Its all in their minds


Guest   January 13th, 2010 10:16 am ET

Firstenberg is staying in his car–hahaha...I wonder if he has a radio in his car...if so...


Lil Jon   January 13th, 2010 11:29 am ET

hahahaha i wonder if he has a cell phone....


Michael S.   January 13th, 2010 2:17 pm ET

I really would like to see a study on this guy alone. Put him in a TEMPEST chamber, then periodically blast him with 2.4 GHz radio waves and see if he notices, or if his physiology changes.


Kevin   January 13th, 2010 2:57 pm ET

While I could potentially see how someone could be sensitive to lower levels of intensity of these kinds of radiation as, IIRC, documented cases of hyper-sensitivities to electromagnetic radiation do exist (sunburn anyone?), there's no way it's anything but psychological.

If he really had this kind of sensitivity, broadcast Radio, Sattelie TV and broadcast TV would have been causing him problems long before the invention of these other electronics as they broadcast at much higer power levels than current cellular or wifi technologies. Even if you assume he has a very narrowband sensitivity, WiFi and Cellular don't even operate in the same frequency spectrum and wifi harmonically overlaps with only one of the bands of cellular. Cordless phones and baby monitors should also be issues since they operate in the unlicensed band with wifi.

Also, if we assume that he actually has this sensitivity, CFLs should make this guy feel BETTER – they use less electricity, reducing the overall induced electric field around the wires.

But heck, maybe we should throw out Maxwell's equations and start from scratch simply because this guy is 'getting sick' ...


Sean.T   January 13th, 2010 3:05 pm ET

Let me guess, this guys collecting log term disability for this or some other condition he has.

He just needs to build himself an Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie and he'll be fine (http://zapatopi.net/afdb/)


The Knoxgeek   January 13th, 2010 3:17 pm ET

This guy is a nutcase and is only looking to screw up his neighbor's life. He should be committed. At the very least, he should pack up and move to some nice, electronics-free third-world country where he can live in peace herd goats.

He needs to get medicated and get real.


Justin Hoopes   January 13th, 2010 3:47 pm ET

This "illness" does not exist. They man is this article is making himself sick, just like any other hypochondriac, and the electronics of his neighbor has nothing to do with it. What is most interesting about this article are the comments by people that actually think this disease is real.


Jeff R   January 13th, 2010 3:54 pm ET

Whack job! There are plenty of rural places to live where this person should "feel well". He probably just needs better meds!


Bubba   January 13th, 2010 4:05 pm ET

Franko, don't go telling us the sky is falling. Cranks usually say HAARP is shooting at heaven, or teleporting our weather to Mars; mind control is a new one. But don't worry, a tinfoil hat will act as a Faraday cage for you as well. Maybe some Xanax would work, too.
Seriously, Firstenberg's problem is so common that everyone has heard "tinfoil hat." It's been called aluminum foil since the 60s. Many people hear voices and think they are being spied on with invisible rays or controlled by the CIA or aliens. This guy had enough money to pay some whack doctors and lawyers.


Tony   January 13th, 2010 4:07 pm ET

Of course its all in his head. If he really knew just how much EM energy was in the air he would have a complete break down. The true question is if he has all this medical history of this alleged disorder why has he chosen to live in a heavily populated area? There is a place in the United States he could move to.

See Here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_National_Radio_Quiet_Zone


Franko   January 13th, 2010 4:10 pm ET

"Hearing the radio through your teeth?"

Who do you sue for being forced to listen to irritating songs. ?
And when naked women dance your dreams ?


Marc W.   January 13th, 2010 4:42 pm ET

If this person is actually sensitive to the EMR or not is not the issue. The issue is: from a legal point of view is this a valid case?

If the power has been installed per code and the devices meet the FCC regulations than that is all the neighbor Monribot has show. (or force Firstenberg to show where they are not up to spec.).

If Firstenberg can prove that things haven’t been installed per “code” than Monrebot (or the power company, or the builder) may be required to bring them up to code. If Monrebot is a using high-power RF equipment then maybe that will need to be moved or curtailed.

After that Firstenberg, assuming his condition is “real”, needs to show why he just can’t move out or put up shielding himself. It may be as simple as putting a magnetic “choke” on the power line.

It would be interesting to be in the Jury for this one!


Matthew   January 13th, 2010 6:00 pm ET

I've had extensive dealings with Electrosensitives that claim to be able to predict earthquakes by virtue of their sensitivity. They can't. Whether or not their condition is physiological or psychological, I can't say. But it is clear they don't know the source and can't discern the source. He should just stop thinking about his new neighbor, see if that doesn't work.


Cornmeal   January 13th, 2010 6:13 pm ET

All this guy has to do is put up some tin foil inside his house and it will reflect all of the radio waves. If he ever wants to go outside just put on a tin foil hat and it will keep harmful radio waves away from his brain. Worse comes t worse he can make tin foil clothes. Some designs out there would look very fashionable!!!


Evv   January 13th, 2010 6:30 pm ET

Why hasn't he moved to the middle of nowhere yet? Not that it would actually solve anything, as this is a made-up condition physically speaking, but a nice cave somewhere unpopulated wouldn't have neighbors, and protect him from those dangerous Wi-Fi waves – and protect the poor neighbor from his mental made-up ridiculousness.

Or better yet, he could simply put lead siding on his house, and pay the electric company to re-wire the lines. Though what he's doing with electricity in his house at is is a good question, it tends to create nasty icky magnetic fields and electromagnetic waves, with no Wi-Fi and cell phones necessary. Evil!


Zero   January 13th, 2010 6:33 pm ET

I think the condition is real....BUT....he would always be feeling sick is he has anything that uses electricity! EMF are everywhere!!! The guy just needs to move to an area where the houses arent so close together...THAT WILL FIX IT!!!


Mr. Cynic   January 13th, 2010 9:30 pm ET

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, nope! But thanks for playing!


karen   January 13th, 2010 10:26 pm ET

I believe this is very real and will someday be millions with cancers and tumors as a result of EMF's. You can use magnets and various anti-EMF devices to help on your cell phone and your laptops etc, however when a city is "wireless" there is no safe place to go and cell phones are handy, but some folks have died from brain cancer already tied to cell phones. It's the next big illness and as someone who has experienced environmental illnesses and overcame them by moving to Taos, I can totally appreciate what this poor man is experiencing. There needs to be housing and places for people like him and other folks with sensitivities in New Mexico that are affordable.


David   January 13th, 2010 10:42 pm ET

This guy is full of it. Radio Waves are all around us. Electromagnetic emissions are everywhere. He would need to get out to some very remote areas to get away from SOME of it. If this guy is ill, he needs to stop barking up the wrong tree and find his true issue.


Grover W. Denver CO   January 13th, 2010 11:21 pm ET

We are awash in electomagnetic energy. He can't escape it, ever! I suspect he's a whiner and a hypochondriac and cannot prove his illness is related to EM fields.


Brandon   January 13th, 2010 11:58 pm ET

Perhaps this guy should change his personal frequency to reduce interference...;-).


Matt   January 14th, 2010 1:24 am ET

This guy is one step above a tin-foil hat wearing psychopath. Why a lawyer would even agree to bring a lawsuit against someone for using electronic devices legally within the confines of their own home is beyond me. Shame shame shame


R. Schwartz   January 14th, 2010 1:48 am ET

Does the guy use a microwave? What about all the cell phones in the area?

Seriously? This guy needs to get over himself. Sounds like a paranoid, whiny crock.


Mark   January 14th, 2010 2:55 am ET

What is so hard, if you KNOW that electromagnet waves are a problem GO LIVE OUT IN THE COUNTRY

MILES from the city and hundreds if not THOUSANDS of feet or more from any neighbor, disconnect the electricity, burn wood for heat, and live your life, is that so hard?

There are a LOT of homes out in the middle of no where ND/SD WY etc etc etc, so why move in near an area that could be a problem...

Personally I think it's a lot of BS, but if you can't stand high elevations don't live on a mountain top... if you can't stand salty conditions, don't live by the ocean...

If you dont want to live near smog (as if there is much of that...) don't live in LA etc...

If you're alergic to peanut butter, are u going to sue your neighbor if they make a PBnJ sandwich? NO.... get a life!!!


WiseOne   January 14th, 2010 8:51 am ET

I almost watered a plastic plant the other day but you don't hear me complaining...


Fletcher   January 14th, 2010 8:55 am ET

I think this man is simply crying out for attention. There isn't a possiblility that electromagnetic fields could affect a person to that extent, so it must be psychological.


Raph   January 14th, 2010 9:29 am ET

well.
this guy better avoid going outside...
sun's light is composed of an extremely large swath of electromagnetic waves, including

* visible light
* infrared
* ultraviolet
* various high power radio interference during sun storms (those that prevent satellites to work properly)

and a bunch of particles emissions...

after all, the sun is a giant nuclear fusion bomb !


albana   January 14th, 2010 9:35 am ET

get this man on the Larry King CNN show!


Skout   January 14th, 2010 12:04 pm ET

He can't go on Larry King. The interference there will kill him, wouldn't it?

C'mon, people. This is utter BS.


R Posey   January 14th, 2010 4:31 pm ET

It would be interesting to test the man to see if he can tell when his neighbors devices are on or off. However, if the neighbor is within legal limits, its his problem whether it is real or not. No one should have to give up peanuts either, because of the chance someone is allegeric to them either


R Posey   January 14th, 2010 4:50 pm ET

If I remember correctly the only low level RF Sensitivities they have ever been able to find were extremely frequency dependent. While most of the signal levels needed to induce a reaction on celluar level were still higher than we would see here, the key point is that they occurred at a single frequency. This means it would be nearly impossible to be sensitive to both Cell Phones, and CFL's for example. The chance he would be sensitive to both is far less than the chance he is allergic to the cleaning products used in the apartment, and the most likely cause is psychological.


Jersey Jeff   January 14th, 2010 5:15 pm ET

Are we sure that Mr Firstenberg doesn't have more of an issue with the ethnicity of his new neighbor, rather than her use of electronic devices. He clearly seems to be nuts, but I wonder if there isn't more to his madness.


David Schwartz   January 14th, 2010 5:43 pm ET

Sure, I acknowledge they may be suffering real physiological effects. And there may be a three-legged dog named Marvo living on Jupiter's equator.

We don't act on things just because they "may" be so. We act on them when there's evidence to support them. Not only is there no evidence to support his claim of real physiological effects, but there's strong evidence that claimed sensitivity is physically impossible and there's strong evidence that others who have claimed such a sensitivity are in fact mistaken.

I will give him the benefit of the doubt and accept that he probably believes what he says. But what he has is strictly a psychological condition.


Cornmeal   January 14th, 2010 6:26 pm ET

Since the brain is the center of this issue and how it is affected by radio waves–a simple tin foil hat should work.


PJC   January 14th, 2010 7:22 pm ET

It seems to be a remarkably selective electro-magnetic allergy. How come he has no problem with his car? The E-M fields generated by the alternator, ignition system and speakers are far more powerful that what may be leaking through the walls from his neighbor’s apartment. I assume he watches television. (I also assume he’s not a plasma or LCD kind of guy) .A standard TV generates an enormous EM field that paints the electron beam onto the phosphor screen. I recommend he go with the aluminum foil hat solution


Franko   January 14th, 2010 8:30 pm ET

"'pain ray', or even less officially as the 'people zapper' .. producing an intolerable, but supposedly harmless, burning sensation"

Zap your neighbor by defeating the safety on your microwave door ?
Or put it on low power to jam all the neighborhood WiFi ?


Ryan   January 14th, 2010 11:40 pm ET

He shuold consider a faraday cage, then he can live his EM free life lol.


one of zero   January 15th, 2010 12:19 am ET

He should paint his house with lead paint. problem solved..but yeah. ...its BS


Jackson Diamond   January 15th, 2010 1:06 am ET

Well heck. My boss has a house out in the Texas desert with no WiFi, no TV, no phone, and only occasional cell phone coverage from a tower 20 miles away. I'm sure he'd be happy to rent it to this man for about $2,000 a month. There's electricity, but it's solar and the dude would be able to turn it off himself when he wants to. Of course, he has to haul his own water from a well 5 miles away.


Doug   January 15th, 2010 1:18 am ET

I don't think the question about the illness being psychosomatic or real is relevant.

The question is; does he have the legal right to control what his neighbor does or doesn't do in their home.

If I am allergic to grass can I file suet and force my neighbors to replace their lawns with rock gardens?

If I am allergic to cottonwood can I make the guy across the street cut down his tree?

I accept that this guy is suffering and don't want him or anyone else in pain, yet see a much bigger issue here. Where does the right of one individual to be safe, happy and healthy override another individuals right to be safe, happy and healthy. (I know I would not be happy giving up my electronics)

I also don't understand why there is no middle ground. Cant the meter be moved? Cant shielding be placed on the line? Cant a brass mesh – eg Faraday cage be placed on his home? There has to be other options then forcing his neighbor to give up common everyday gadgets and devices.


Viv   January 15th, 2010 3:25 am ET

The condition is "real" but only in the sense that he ***really*** has a psychosomatic delusion. Psychiatric treatment is the only thing that will help him and other people who for whatever reason need to make up diseases like this (not that they consciously know they are making them up, I am sure that they genuinely believe in their delusion).

The notes "dating [back] more than a decade" probably do say stuff like "Mr. Firstenberg returns today claiming to have an exacerbation of his electromagnetic sensitivity"–but just because it is in the notes doesn't mean that it is real or that the doctors ever thought that it was real.

From the other comments, it is shameful that some doctors have apparently elected to waste scarce healthcare dollars (and to profit from) these kinds of delusions. Some humans just are prone to delusions, and this has been true throughout history and across cultures–just the subject of the delusions is different from time to time and place to place. For example, a common delusion of men in Asia is that their genitalia are shrinking/retracting/disappearing.


Omar   January 15th, 2010 3:39 am ET

This guy and all who claim this disease are just psycosematic(or how ever it is spelled). Why can I say this. Very simple the earth itself is a giant magnet. It is what keeps us safe from the solar winds. So either this guy has been suffering since youth and there would be documented history dating back since the beginning of medical records on something like this. Or this person could not function anywhere in the civilized world. I agree move or pay 5 bucks for a EMP discharger that attatches to the foot. Hell the neighbor should read this buy the strip and offer it as appeasement with a note saying look you believe you have this disease I don't but let's make a truce. hell give me his address and I will pay for the darn strip just because he is so dum. Like the Old lady who dropped the hot coffee on her lap and sued McDonalds.


Mike   January 15th, 2010 4:20 am ET

Yes ONStar, im in my car and I cant drive it because im burning up from the electromatic feild that your signal is producing.
----------------
Sir, we detected that your heater is on.. Thank you for using ONStar.


McKopa   January 15th, 2010 8:29 am ET

4 hours in this laptop made me dizzy.
Arthur's probably right.
Enough with CNN.
Am retiring to the M bedroom where everything's turned off.
My wife's sleeping with no disturbance, electromagnetic or otherwise.
Wait 'til I start snoring.


Wow Really   January 15th, 2010 9:42 am ET

Thank goodness that neighbor is the only person in the world with a cell phone and other electronic devices, and once they stop using them he'll be safe to go anywhere.

Isn't it weird how the neighbor who annoys you because their dog barks all night buys all the devices that throw off stronger magnetic fields than anyone elses?

I think this guy needs an MRI.


CaliMale   January 15th, 2010 12:15 pm ET

Aluminum Foil hat should fix the problem.


SimpleAnswers   January 15th, 2010 2:12 pm ET

Maybe the answer lies in electoshock threapy.


james   January 15th, 2010 2:46 pm ET

he sleeps in his car... ?

i wonder is he going to sue his car?


HunterA3   January 15th, 2010 3:31 pm ET

OK. I won't throw any stones. For all we know this guy could be telling the truth, or at least what he assumes in the truth.

2.4 GHz and lower spectrum can penetrate a sizable amount of building construction, but you can line the walls with lead (available from many medical supply offices for doctors that practice from their home and perform x-rays), metal insect screening material from any home improvement store, or use special paints that block radiation (sherman-williams has a metallic paint designed for attic thermal protect that would do the trick.). Incorporating all three should drastically reduce any EMF bleeding through the walls. He could also build a Faraday cage within his house that would completely block any frequencies floating around.

First however, he needs to have his home screened for high EMF fields to determine where it is really coming from. For all we know it could be coming from his own fuse box or bad wiring.


JT   January 15th, 2010 3:34 pm ET

This is just another classic case of abuse of the legal system. Someone trying to sue somebody else to be awarded something they have no claim to. This entire country is lawsuit happy and the ridiculous thing is the courts actually award judgments against hardworking citizens because it will shut some clown up. The legal system in this country is so flawed it is unbelievable.


Franko   January 15th, 2010 4:58 pm ET

"Cell Phones Linked to Long Term Memory Loss in Rats"
"Many previous studies had only researched short term memory loss"

Maybe Fristenberg's DNA is part Rat ?


guest   January 15th, 2010 5:48 pm ET

Check out this study. It is biased towards the website's agenda, but its worth the thought.

http://www.aehf.com/articles/em_sensitive.html


R. Moose   January 15th, 2010 10:27 pm ET

He should install some chicken wire or use WiFi shielding paint or wallpaper (yes, it does exist.)

He can make his location habitable but as long as the neighbor is within the law, they should not have to do anything.


juan bosco   January 16th, 2010 11:25 am ET

this is the proof that in America you can sue anybody for anything you can come up with....


George   January 16th, 2010 11:43 am ET

I am sensitive to lazy and stupid people. They cause high blood pressure, stress, stomach problems, head aches and insomnia. You can't even get away from them by escaping to television – the reality shows and the news is just full of them. Worse yet, these idiots and slackers have been raised as icons and role models by media. Who to sue? The schools? The parents? The Government? The corporations? I imagine this syndrome whereby normal healthy and intelligent human beings are adversely affected by these morons and mooches affect many more than any 'electromagnetic sensitivity'. However, there definitely seems to be an epidemic of dullards. There should be some form of population control since natural selection doesn't seem to working any longer.


Robert Sloan   January 16th, 2010 12:06 pm ET

Just because it's psychological doesn't mean his symptoms aren't real. That said, his lawsuit is frivolous. If he can't live near electronic devices and wifi signals, then he has a rough situation. He can try to deal with the problem through mental health help, which takes years if it works.

Or he can move farther out into the countryside with fewer neighbors and avoid the signals. The fact that he can't stay in a hotel is hard on him. He's got a tough situation. But suing his neighbor for her using computers, fluorescent lights and other electronics isn't the way to go with it.

The only real solution for his problem is to move somewhere far enough that he's not got neighbors.

I have friends with physiological sensitivities to scents, to synthetic materials, to cats or dogs. Happily I don't have a cat allergy because I love my cat. But I have some allergies. There's one type of foam padding and pillow stuffing, also one type of carpet fiber that I have yet to identify that sets off major asthma symptoms.

I've had to avoid places that have those fibers. One hotel I stayed in had the foam pillows and I wound up sleeping without pillows. The home of a friend hosting a writing group had the carpet and I couldn't stay in the room with it, so I couldn't stay and had to leave the meeting. Allergies are very limiting for anyone who has them.

But suing someone else for keeping allergens in their apartment is a dangerous precedent. Almost anything can be someone else's allergen. His lawsuit is frivolous.


joe Scott   January 16th, 2010 3:02 pm ET

I don't see how this can possibly be a valid case. Everyone owns electronics of some form. And no matter where he's gonna experience the same thing. So by allowing him this one case, you will be allowing him all cases. This is stupid


Matthew Thompson   January 16th, 2010 3:27 pm ET

Wi-Fi and other wireless devices run off Radio Frequency or RF these devices are all around us. The low level of signal that is being produced by the Wi-Fi would never be felt COMPARED to the level of RF that is sweeping through his house from other sources such as cell towers, TV, towers and other earth and space bound sources. People having allergies to RF (radio frequencies) that are used today are delusional. Everyone was born into and it has surrounded everyone their whole life to RF. The Earth and Space even give off Radio Frequencies constantly we are bombarded by it all the time. How do you think it was discovered???
I think the person who lives next to this person who is claiming allergies to Wi-Fi should file their own complaint against that other neighbor on the basis of allergies to stupidity. Now that allergy would get my stamp of approval!


Diane   January 16th, 2010 9:10 pm ET

"So many people are becoming such babies."

I hope no one in your family has any type of mental illness because your "logic" and derision will make her worse.


DMan   January 16th, 2010 10:46 pm ET

Mental illness is scary. Lets feel sorry for this guy, but understand that there is no way his condition is real and that there is no way he will be able to win the law suit.


Coaster   January 16th, 2010 11:09 pm ET

While I too, am inclined to believe this person has a mental condition, it intrigues me. And there are documented cases of others claiming the same illness. Like autism, it might be one of those things that will, in 20 years, be something most people accept as real. (not that long ago, people thought autism was just bad parenting)

What if he is having a problem with something generated by these devices? It might not be an electromagnetic thing causing it, but it could be something else. First, we would need to know what sort of "getting sick" he is having. Does he break out in hives? Does he develop flu-like symptoms, does he get stomach problems? THen we'd need a list of things that cause this reaction. Is it only cell phones on a particular carrier, what about cars, household appliances, workplace environment, factories, places of high stress, places of low stress....?

etc etc etc


fortheclueless   January 17th, 2010 12:02 am ET

Electromagnetic waves are everywhere. The first thing they should do is subpoena his former neighbor and investigate if that person used electricity. And then perhaps research all of his former dwellings and former neighbors. I'm sure they'd find his former neighbors used a cell phone, wifi, or other emitting devices. It would really be funny if this guy drove a Volvo.


Slarti   January 17th, 2010 5:51 am ET

Wait, wait. He can use a car with no ill effects? Hrmmm. Isn't that peculiar?

Perhaps he should become Amish.


cornmeal   January 17th, 2010 2:06 pm ET

There should be a follow-up story on this person to see if he took any of the fine suggestions given by the readers. Oh. I forgot the suggestion about the tin foil lined umbrella. It keeps harmful EMR from satellites away from your brain!!


Paul   January 17th, 2010 4:03 pm ET

Yep, I have electromagnetic hypersensitivity as well. It is a condition recognized in Sweden and it will grow as awareness of excessive radiation spreads. Wifi, radio, RF radiation is everywhere of course, but it depends on how close one is to the antennae and how powerful the signal is.
Symptoms include upset stomach, tingling headaches, tinnitus, sleeplessness, heart palipatations. Lots of web material, but check out Canada's WEEP, or the bioinitiative report for more info. on EHS.
Anyone suffering, feel better!
Paul.


Anne   January 17th, 2010 4:11 pm ET

There are only two people out of everyone who commented that understood the real issue here. Since not all the information was given on his illness (only a relatively small amount was provided) this is not an argument concerning whether or not this gentleman is allergic to electromagnetic sensitivity. None of you can make an informed argument on that from only reading this article or meeting "some people" who "have it". If you would like to judge this man on whether he is "psycho" (which is not even a correct diagnosis for his condition if it is psychological), then turn to a gossip magazine. This is CNN, discuss the important issue here: your rights. Does someone have the right to sue you because, indirectly, something you own is interfering with their personal life/health? My personal opinion is "no". Each person has a certain amount of personal responsibility that they need to own up to. This man needs to consider his options because it is not up to his neighbour to take care of his condition – whether physiological or psychological – it is up to him.


geck   January 17th, 2010 8:24 pm ET

If he sues, he'll probably win.
Somehow it's completely her fault... or even if it isnt, isnt it worth taking away her rights so he can possibly feel better?

This country has really gone down hill. I have every confidence that our legal system will side with this quack. A good indication of this can be found in the last paragraph of the article.

"Do you acknowledge Fristenberg, and others claiming electronic sensitivity, may be suffering real physiological effects and should be allowed to live free from electronic devices? Or should treatment be strictly psychological?"

allowed to live free? as if he's being oppressed somehow?
Is it not his duty to find a place that he feels comfortable? Should the world feel shamed because this man has to live in a bubble?
Knowing that phrasing was intentional gives me a strong sense of disgust towards the author of this article and very little hope for the future of humanity.


Kevin from Flint   January 17th, 2010 10:23 pm ET

The journalist that took this report was probably emitting EMP's too from electronic devices that they had. So this guy is passing 100% Grade A BS. He is an idiot and I hope darwinisim kicks in and takes out the trash on this one....


veggiedude   January 18th, 2010 3:10 am ET

It is easy to test if he is telling the truth. Do a double blind study, with him never knowing when the wifi is on.


Bruno   January 18th, 2010 3:36 am ET

Awesome maybe NASA can use him to send signals to outter space! lol


Joe   January 18th, 2010 11:37 am ET

Psychosomatic or not, he's convinced of his sensitivity. Apparently so are numerous others. Now there is a lawsuit which is intrusive and could be expensive, and the problem list goes on. I'll offer a suggestion of installing an electromagnetic blocker called a Faraday cage. We used to wrap computer rooms in conductive mesh so that the sensitive equipment wouldn't be affected by police cruiser radios and radio stations in the area. Equipment was failing until we installed the mesh. The Faraday cage is used in many areas of the technical industry to block radio wave interference. So even if the electromagnetic sensitivity ailment is a lie, no more excuses and hopefully happier neighbors.

Additional notes: The mesh was covered by normal sheet rock walls so you don't see it, and if this person has a problem outside, there is mesh material that can be put in clothing as well.


Franko   January 18th, 2010 11:46 am ET

Electric eels shock their prey,
To Arthur Firstenberg, the WiFi is a mild version of the Electric Chair ?

"Candy is dandy but liquor is quicker"
Drinking, or turn up the WiFi, to forget a love affair gone bad ?
Your specially hacked WiFi a seduction device ?


Ed   January 18th, 2010 1:10 pm ET

"Within a day of [Monribot] moving in, I began to feel sick when I was in my house," Firstenberg writes in his affidavit. "The electric meter for my house is mounted on [Monribot's] house. Electromagnetic fields emitted in [Monribot's] house are transmitted by wire directly into my house."

If what he is saying in the quote above is true, the simple fix would be to cut wires between the two houses. In fact, he could just remove all wiring from his own home and go back to burning wood in the fireplace or woord burning stove.

What a nut case.


Franko   January 18th, 2010 3:29 pm ET

Second hand smoke was, a long time ago, culturally acceptable.
Some people cannot do without smoke, others die from it.

For WiFi, is there a magic frequency to enhance health ?


Soundwave_and_buzzsaw   January 18th, 2010 4:47 pm ET

I am allergic to nuts, but I don't sue the other people in my apt building for ordering Thai food with peanut sauce. He is just looking for a reason to sue, and the true story is likely that she made noises he didn't like, or left an outdoor light on which bothered him when he slept, or he made a pass at her and she turned him down.


Picachone   January 18th, 2010 4:56 pm ET

I am allergic to work. Can I sue my employer? I also have an illness that causes me to freak out when my checking account balance gets below $5,000. Can I sue the bank because they don't keep my checking account full of money? I love America!


David K.   January 18th, 2010 6:14 pm ET

He sleeps in his car? Where? In the country? Wi-Fi generally travels at least 300 ft. outside any building in which it is used. If his case is heard, is he going to be able to go into the court building (where Wi-Fi will undoubtedly be in use), or will the case have to be heard in his car...somewhere out of the city?

This guy needs help, but an injunction against his neighbor isn't the kind of help he needs!


Fusillade   January 18th, 2010 7:23 pm ET

If he is so sensitive that he can pick up electromagnetic fields produced by a wifi in the house next door, then he needs to get off the grid, run on a generator, and shield his house.


Roy Crockett   January 18th, 2010 8:45 pm ET

If electronics caused a condition like this we would ALL be suffering. This dude needs to see a shrink and maybe the shrink could have the lights, and a camera and show what a dolt this guy is!


Krehator   January 18th, 2010 11:19 pm ET

Yet another person finding a way to look over the fence and blame his neighbor for his suffering. We are living in a world where whining is rewarded.

It's 2009, if this guy has an illness to WiFi, I am truly sorry but he is incompatible with the world. The needs of one man do not take priority. He needs to move and find a place that is compatible with his needs.

Can I get an injunction against my bank for being allergic to bills???


Rev.Greenbud   January 19th, 2010 2:05 am ET

I do not think his case will hold up. It's not his neighbors fault. I'd really be curious to see if he's on disability for this "disease".
maybe he should try some medicinal marijuana.


Quickedie   January 19th, 2010 8:49 am ET

A credible scientific study has clearly shown that there is no hypersensitivity to EMFs.
Case closed.
Scientific reason must always have priority to peoples beliefs. Otherwise anyone can claim anything, just like this guy.


vlh   January 19th, 2010 11:39 am ET

Survival of the fittest . . . sounds like he won't be making it very far.


carl   January 19th, 2010 11:43 am ET

heres 2 ideas, why doesnt the guy build a feris( did i spell that right) cage that blocks all EM waves into one of the rooms in his house, and secondly if the stuff is coming throgh the wires because of where the power box is....move the power box...there problem solved


Erin   January 19th, 2010 1:09 pm ET

did Wi-fi even exist 'decades ago' ?


Dea   January 19th, 2010 1:28 pm ET

Regardless if this is a real illness or not, which I don't believe it is, he can't force everyone around him to quit living their lives with tech equipment just because he's around. He needs to live somewhere more isolated, without close neighbors. I wouldn't have stopped using my tech gadgets either.


Shawn   January 19th, 2010 1:42 pm ET

The lack of compassion and judgmental attitudes that trivialize what could potentially be a real life altering situation for someone, something that warranted a study no less, is really disappointing. Way to go america, get angry and hate the guy, make jokes no less. Whether it be physical or psychological, keep your fingers crossed that anything remotely related to your own physical or mental health never gets to be subjected to such scrutiny. Let the hate and vulgarity begin...


Brandon   January 19th, 2010 2:53 pm ET

This man is a nut case. Suing your neighbor for using there electronic devices in their own home. There would be a throw down if this was in my residence. I don't pay the price to live where I do, for someone to throw a doctors note in my face telling me they have some sort of psycho disorder, that no one seems to know anything about.


Ken   January 19th, 2010 4:06 pm ET

Better yet, the lack of understanding of EMF. WiFi generally uses the 2.4GHz. This is the same frequency that Microwave ovens use to boil water. It is entirely possible for him to have some type of reaction to WiFI and not have any response to other bands of the EMF spectrum. However, I agree, there are plenty of places to live that are WiFi free.


Dan   January 19th, 2010 4:10 pm ET

Hey, I just want to point out that all light is electromagnetic radiation and visible light is actually more radioactive then microwaves and radio waves. You don't get cancer from them either of them. To put it simply, you are far more likely to get cancer from the color purple then you are your cellphone or microwave. I'm always amazed at how many of my students believe this. It's just an old wives tale...


Jared Eisenmann   January 19th, 2010 5:22 pm ET

There is alot of "Woo" out there, and this seems like it might be another case of it. IF a double-blind & valid study exists that supports his theory, then fine. That would be fascinating, and I would love to read the results. Until then, simple logic says his condition is psychological in nature.

Man-made Wireless communications have existed since the early 1900's (radio!), and we're been exposed to such rays from nature since we were bacteria. The specific frequencies that 802.11 (wifi) uses is shared with cordless phones, and other devices of that nature. If his previous neighbor had a cordless phone then a condition should have appeared then, and he could have enacted specific steps to right the problem. Moving his electric meter for example to his own house (which wouldn't solve, since everything is interconnected on the power grid anyway). Getting better insulation for his own house. Or the best solution: see a Psychiatrist. Its only a small co-pay.


Navi   January 19th, 2010 5:47 pm ET

If an electromagnetic allergy were indeed a medical condition, we would have heard about this decades ago. While WiFi internet and Cell Phones are relatively new, Cordless phones, Radio transmitters, have been around for much longer with no ill effects. Even longer was the use of electromagnets, and even the simple refrigerator magnet. In fact the Earth itself is a giant magnet, which is how a compass works. Stars in the universe produce all forms of frequencies which can be heard as static on your car radio. For someone within the last 10 years to suddenly have an electromagnetic allergy just reeks of psychosis.
On the plus side, it is possible to use metal objects to lessen the effects of these wave, so all he needs really is a tin foil hat.


Michael   January 19th, 2010 10:00 pm ET

It is sad, but true, that somatic disorders can cause real physical symptoms. So are his symptoms real? Probably. Is it a result of the neighbor's electronics? Only indirectly, in that this man has a somatic disorder, psychologically based, that causes him to react to the mere idea that there are electronics next door. I take it this guy probably doesn't own a TV set, radio, telephone or florescent lights. What's especially sad, is that there is some lawyer out there who would choose to move this into court instead of a Psychiatrist's office.

Should he be allowed to live away from all electronics? If he chooses, yes, but at his own expense and trouble, not his neighbor's.
Should he be treated by a Psychiatrist? I would hope he would agree to try that avenue, since his option to live away from all electronics would cripple his life, and more importantly, left untreated, somatic disorders tend to grow worse with time. Eventually, his unbalanced perceptions in life will migrate to other areas causing further suffering.

People's suffering should be acknowledged, but that doesn't mean that unbounded accommodation is the right answer.


quick fix   January 20th, 2010 4:39 am ET

Smith and Wesson has a cure for this. Costs less than a dollar and when properly taken is a permanent solution.


Eric   January 20th, 2010 7:59 am ET

Just a load of BS, people get shocked with countless rays of electromagnetics every single day (they wrap the Earth). You would be dead already if they caused illness.


vicki   January 20th, 2010 8:50 am ET

Here is something to think about. When you look at the world around you down to the cellular level, everything consists of a vibration. For more details on this read about the String Theory of Einstien's Theory of Relativity. So what is an EMF? It is a vibrational frequency. Maybe
this person has a very valid claim.


Jon of IT   January 20th, 2010 9:12 am ET

Sounds like it is time for this guy to move to Amish country


rj   January 20th, 2010 10:17 am ET

The wiring in his house also emits EMF. How does he explain living in a house with electricity not making him ill?


Ian kane   January 20th, 2010 12:31 pm ET

People like these are the reason we cant say "ho ho ho" on christmas, or even say "merry christmas".


Henry   January 20th, 2010 1:19 pm ET

I am offended with comments like "...move to Alaska..."
I'm from Alaska and we have computers and wi-fi and cellphones, etc...I rather you tell him to live in a hole.

btw...there are electronics and components in his car that also generate EMFs...why isn't he allergic to those?


muzz   January 20th, 2010 3:11 pm ET

I believe this to be true. I have a wireless router in my home but I only turn it on if I need to surf the net on my ipod as if it is left on I get headaches and can definitly feel something passing through me makes me kind of sick. Until now I thought it was only me. However, I'm not as bad as this guy.


William   January 20th, 2010 3:33 pm ET

He should move to a wilderness area somewhere, and just live off the land like ancient humans or aboriginal tribes. Why doesn't he try that, or become a farmer somewhere very undeveloped? He coudl also become a merchant marine or fisherman, that way he could be out to sea away from wifi. Why would someone like him want to live in a city anyway, it's so painful for him. Also if he truly has this disability, he should be given some support from the government.


Gary Crowell Sr. P.E.   January 20th, 2010 4:18 pm ET

Just a point of information. Lead paint, metal paint, metal sheets, aluminum foil, wire screens, etc., – do NOT make a Faraday cage, or appreciably block EM emissions unless constructed in a very exacting way. Such a cage requires a -total- enclosure; no gaps of any kind, anywhere. Fine copper mesh screen works fine. The door on our EM screen room weighs 400 lbs, necessary to align and properly compress the RF gaskets that complete the enclosure when the door is closed. Close the door, but leave it unlatched, and your cell phone still works inside; only when the door is fully latched does your cell go dead. Double-blind tests are done with 'EM-sensitive' people in such rooms, and they can't tell when an EM radiator in the room with them is on or off. Their illness is in their mind.

Funny part is, some people with this 'illness' put up partial foil/metal shelds, (which do nothing,) and claim they feel better. Still in their mind.

Another point of information, several people mentioned wrist or ankle straps to dissipate EM fields. Sorry, those are for Electro-Static Discharge (ESD) protection; they do nothing to block or dissipate RF fields. Still you might convince such a mentally ill person that they are effective for their 'problem'.

Bottom line, these people are nut jobs. Mentally ill, and should be treated as such. They -may- have a valid sensitivity to chemicals used in electronics, but that's another story.


Steve   January 20th, 2010 7:22 pm ET

Just another person trying to extort money from someone vulnerable that is close to him. First of all, how did he narrow it down to this one neighbor to sue? Why doesn't he just sue everyone he passes on the street who is using a cell phone or radio? If this man were even to get this to court and actually win, something is wrong with the government of New Mexico. Maybe he should line his home with tin foil, or wear a tin foil hat like they did in the movie Signs.


Frank Mondana   January 20th, 2010 10:05 pm ET

Here's the funny part-
He can sleep in his car. Evern an old one is going to produce electronic "signals".
I bet he can watch TV with no problem.
What about all those Doctors? They are not in caves.

Oh, and Vicki, I'm an avid physics geek. You are speaking poop. Yes, everything produces "vibrations", but you are wrong as to your "findings".


Manny   January 21st, 2010 12:10 am ET

what about his other neighbors? because you know, neighbors sometimes work together to make your life a living hell, lol. I wonder who he's going to sue next, the guy passing by using a cell phone? "he assaulted me with his phone!"
Obviously the guy has a problem, and yeah it probably sucks, but hey there are people out there born blind and with no arms. Did they sue their parents? no they found a way to make the most with what they had.


Sceptic   January 21st, 2010 12:18 am ET

I don't believe there is anything to this, but I am appalled by the hostile comments I read here. How about spending the time to study his claims with a similar study as the German one mentioned? Then articles such as this will be able to cite two studies instead of just one.


scotty   January 21st, 2010 3:07 am ET

as an electrical engineer, i have to think that this is highly unlikely, or at least that his claims are unfounded. the magnetic fields in his electrical transmission line (the main tap to his house) are much much higher than fields generated by household electronics...and fields generated from his neighbor's electronics would not travel through his tap (they don't even need a wire to travel–ie, wireless signals).


JonR   January 21st, 2010 7:24 am ET

His sensitivity is not his neighbor's problem. She has a right to do normal things and in this day and age, that includes using any number of electronic devices. He should move to a rural area.


John Smith   January 21st, 2010 10:48 am ET

He should buy one of those magnetic or copper braclets. That'll fix his problem. It fixed mine.


Josh   January 21st, 2010 1:17 pm ET

I hear Bin Laden is looking for a roommate. I'm just sayin'.


Anon   January 21st, 2010 1:34 pm ET

So since he is supposedly sensitive to electromagnetic equipment, he thinks he can sue his neighbor into not having any? Is this guy's head on straight? Sorry buddy, this is the world we live in and it's not going to change anytime soon.


carl   January 21st, 2010 3:24 pm ET

ok frist why is his eletrical box on her house and not his. 2nd if he claims the EM flows over the wire, my question is does he have lights, washer dryer a TV? dude cant say he does not have any EM emitting devices in his house. he is probally some cranky old man who doesnt like his neighbor and is trying to rid of her. dude is an idiot.


John Holmes   January 21st, 2010 5:04 pm ET

Really? How about getting some meds for being a schizo instead of a lawsuit.


Peter Meyers   January 21st, 2010 5:31 pm ET

Build a Faraday cage, who cares if it is true or not (which it isn't). Assuming he really does have medical issues or it is all in his head the solution is the same.


Franko   January 21st, 2010 6:38 pm ET

The judge will rule with the WiFi, cellphone,
microwave and police radar interests.

Microwaves do cause both short and long term memory loss.
However, Arthur Firstenberg can still find his car - case dismissed ?


Ken, San Jose, CA   January 21st, 2010 9:37 pm ET

You guys continue to miss the point. It doesnt take the entire EMF band to cause problems. Try to boil water with your TV or radio, it wont happen. Use your Microwave oven (which operates at the same frequency as WiFi) and it will boil quit quickly. This is why the put a ton of shielding around it. So who can say how much of this particular band of radiation is bad for you. WiFi is still very new, and not a lot of data on long term exposure. Similarly, not everyone gets sunburned at the same rate when exposed to the sun. Some people can't even be outside during the day. So why isn't it possible for this guy to have a real illness?

BTW, the FCC states that an emitting device must not emit dangerous radiation, so wouldn't this be a basis for asking his neighbor to reduce the emissions on this WiFi router.

Lastly, I think his request is valid, since most home WiFi units are running much stronger than they need be. I can easily detect 12 other Access Points from my house. Legally, if a neighbor can detect your signal, and he complains to the FCC, the FCC will require you to shutdown or at least reduce your signal strength. This is all part of the unlicensed spectrum requirements set by the FCC.


Anymouse   January 22nd, 2010 1:12 am ET

Go live with the Amish then.


Steven Wesner   January 22nd, 2010 7:17 am ET

Anything with an electrical current emits EMF waves, so why are these wireless devices any different from the electrical lines in his walls or the power lines sitting outside his home? This guy needs to solve his problems, not create them for other people.


Navi   January 22nd, 2010 9:30 am ET

Franko, the point is you can't be alergic to wave lengths. That is the entire point of the German study. People who make that claim (and evidently there are others) are most likely suffering from a mental illness that no court or lawsuit can cure.


PS   January 22nd, 2010 1:42 pm ET

Wow...You can really get a feel for two very distinct perceptions above. You have the poeple that feel the Government should step in and defend this lunatic. And you have the people that feel this idiot should move into the desert and that will fix everything. "WRONG" if we let this motion carry and set a irreversable president in such a case, we are one step closer to total breakdown of society...lets all jump back to the stone age for this guy, becuse "It's just not right"...get a life.
I am an Rf Engineer I have worked in EM environment for over 20 years. I can say I have been at Broadcast radio sites pushing over 5Kw+of power standing under that energy level, unprotected from a metal roof of a site building for more than 10 minutes I have personally experienced symptoms such as headache etc., but that's me, others may react to that level of energy differently. But hey, that's my job...O and I'm cancer free "Karen".
If we could see radiation before and beyond the visible spectrums we would be abath in a blinding array of colors every minute of every day. That is fact, that is life. If such a disorder actually did exist, I would do everything I could to understand EME, then do what I could to reduce my suffering, even if that included mental help.
Frankly he has alot in common with Vampires, they are allergic to light, it's EM energy right? They live out the day in a coffin to protect themselves, if they existed, they would not blame others for this affliction it's just life as they know it. May be this guy should build an Rf screen room or coffin and sleep in it, effectivly blocking out the EMI outside, they work great, we use them to tune highly sensitive recievers all the time.
Then maybe he could actually get some real sleep, and leave his poor neighbor alone. Ignorance to scientific fact is dangerous...remember that, if you don't understand the topic then don't comment, it makes you look...well ignorant.


PS   January 22nd, 2010 2:16 pm ET

Gary Crowell Sr. P.E you nailed it...good job.


Franko   January 22nd, 2010 6:54 pm ET

To; Navi – "Franko, the point is you can't be allergic to wave lengths"
Different frequencies, different modulation schemes, have different effects. - "Porphyria, disorders of certain enzymes, has been suggested as an explanation for the origin of vampire" - Certain sequences in Nuclear Magnetic Resonance flip the spin of atomic particles. - Biochemicals are unstable, and the reaction products can be influenced. - You can have almost any allergic reaction.

To; PS – Re; "get a life. I am an Rf Engineer"
Stop thinking, the debate is over, due to appeal to authority ?
Cook a hot dog, or your head, in front of a high power MW feedhorn ?
Try explaining the short and long term memory loss.


Gary Crowell Sr. P.E.   January 22nd, 2010 7:37 pm ET

Ken, San Jose: "Legally, if a neighbor can detect your signal, and he complains to the FCC, the FCC will require you to shutdown or at least reduce your signal strength. This is all part of the unlicensed spectrum requirements set by the FCC."

Sorry, wrong. The FCC deals with human exposure to RF energy as a safety issue, but this is at levels thousands of times greater than what this clown is dealing with. Aside from that, the FCC can step in if some electrical equipment is causing harmful interference to normal RF communications. Voices in your head do not qualify as normal communications.


holly   January 23rd, 2010 9:19 am ET

this is a very tough question. but the end result in his case would be turning his whole street into a wi-fi free zone. but what makes him so special that his pyschosomatic symptoms deserve a whole street? if a pregnant womans neighbor continually cooks foods, which are offensive to her overly sensitive nose, and making her physically ill should the neighbor move or be forced to cease cooking or forced to move?? where do we draw the line? i think if it bothers him he should find somewhere else, his neighbor is not being maliious, or doing anything illegal or dangerous. if you move into a neighborhood near a dump site and it offends your senses does the city move the dump site??


jj   January 23rd, 2010 5:40 pm ET

God forbid he ever needs a defribrilator


Franko   January 23rd, 2010 10:37 pm ET

Those in charge cannot be trusted.
The ClimateGate saga is still ongoing,
Are we having a WiFi-Gate cover up ?


Derek   January 25th, 2010 1:26 pm ET

ES is a subset of environmental illness, sometimes referred to as EI, where the sufferers claim that a whole host of irritants/triggers causes a wide array of debilitating health symptoms, often of a neurological nature (dizziness, progressive weakness in limbs, crushing fatigue), at very low frequencies/dosages. In many ways, it acts like an allergy except much broader and with much more serious symptoms. It shares many striking similarities with Gulf War Syndrome, a mysterious condition that has also been regarded by medical practitioners as psychosomatic (a view that has increasingly softened over the years). Clinical trials that have tried to determine whether these people are actually reacting to what they say they are reacting to have mostly been negative, some inconclusive, a few positive. However, if there is one thing that defines EI, it's the fact that it's remarkably different from person to person, at least in terms of what their bodies react to, how much, and under what conditions. Most of the epidemiological studies conducted to prove a connection have not adequately accounted for this, but instead attempted to apply the same battery of tests to all participants, which would always produce mixed results, at best.

I have EI, and I have electromagnetic sensitivity. It has destroyed my life. Explaining it to other people is all but impossible, and most attempts to do so result in nothing but ridicule. As a result, I've mostly withdrawn from society. With a number of shielding/distancing methods in place, I am able to use a computer for short bursts to try and interact with the world in some way, but that likely won't last forever, as the condition progressively worsens over time. I have thoroughly exhausted every option our Western medical and psychiatric industry has to offer, at great expense and effort, to no avail. I even went into an inpatient facility for psychiatric evaluation on the off chance that it is some type of psychosomatic disorder. No dice. Sorry, people, it is what we say it is, a debilitating, chronic, physical disease of unknown origin that results in an increasing sensitivity to numerous chemicals, organic irritants, electromagnetic fields, foods, etc. It's not a joke, or just the imaginings of a bunch of fruitcakes who have nothing better to do.

As far as this guy? I feel for him, because if you deal with this long enough, you will start to flake out. You have nowhere to turn, no one will help you, your family will abandon you, your friends think you're a freak. You're alone, desperate, afraid, and sick. And he's probably just trying to do something, anything, to get people to see what he's suffering through. A senseless scream for help and attention after years of frustration and suffering. Not the smartest thing to do, and I wish he hadn't filed a lawsuit because it makes us all look like opportunistic idiots now, but I know how he feels


cbfindlay   January 25th, 2010 9:56 pm ET

Hi! Here's a possible solution. This man, I don't know how old he is, but he needs to live in a retirement or over 55 community as people this age tend to not have all these electronic devices. And to the nay-sayers, he could be the canary in a coal mine.


Wermet   January 25th, 2010 11:38 pm ET

This is not a physical illness, it's all in his head. He should just leave his neighbor alone and get on with his life. We are constantly surrounded by magnetic fields and radio waves. There is simply no way of getting away from it. No way that is unless you decided to live in a "Faraday Cage".

A Faraday Cage can be built by simply lining a house with properly grounded metal screening. This would prevent stray electromagnetic energy from entering his house. He would have to cover all exterior walls, ceilings and floors plus all windows, doors and other openings for this to be effective, but it can be done.

I have worked in several facilities that test radio transmitters and other electronic devices for EMI (Electro-Magnetic Interference) susceptibility. We used Faraday Cages to contain massive amounts of electromagnetic energy from spilling out into the world and interfering with other folks' radio reception. (The FCC would have shut us down immediately if we interfered with the reception of licensed radio broadcasts.)


allergicToExercise   January 26th, 2010 12:10 am ET

I feel bad for the guy. He needs to go see an alergist. There must be some medicine for WiFi allergies. Maybe three red peanut M&Ms after each meal would do the trick.


Russ   January 26th, 2010 12:21 am ET

Oh please! Did he get abducted by aliens too?

Either he's a liar or he is a hypochondriac.


tom   January 26th, 2010 6:17 am ET

This reminds me of the movie "Safe". I guess this is the new version of multiple chemical sensitivity. He needs a psychotherapist, not a lawyer or a doctor.


Sandeep   January 26th, 2010 2:52 pm ET

Lets all donate money for this guy to build a high density copper shield around his home...they will definitely keep him safe from his "disorder"


angela   January 26th, 2010 3:42 pm ET

First I dont believe this is a real "condition" or "disease". But regardless of the matter, it looks like this neighbor lived in their house first and he moved there afterwards. That being said, since he knew he had this "condition" he should have looked into this before he moved there. We cannot stop living as people because of a few messed up people.


it's always not about "ME"   January 26th, 2010 6:26 pm ET

We live in a world of if I can't see it does not exist and lets not forget everyone puts themselves first at the expense of all others. This is a case of both partys putting me first ,the home owner as well as the affected individual. As an AMERICAN our objective is ,"For the good of all", the home owner could easily have his home checked just to see if it is affecting the neighbor and can he prevent this anyway. The affected individual yes we are all important but to take this issue to court? Can he do all that is within his means to shield himself? or is always the other persons fault? Can we all grow up? There are so many unexplained illness, man and the earth are so connected and some are more sensitive then others. Please, were is the empathy or compassion that should be shown to any suffering living thing or is this just to be shown to animals? The average human being would rather feed ,help or show compassion to an animal. Reading these comments make me ashame and afraid for humanity and our future.


John   January 26th, 2010 7:05 pm ET

Sounds like he may need some mental help


Haywood   January 27th, 2010 12:19 am ET

Whether or not it is real or not his body will act it out if he believes it. A double blind test should help diagnose if the condition is real or not, crazier things have happened. He could be an outlier.

For temporary time he could build a Faraday cage around his bed or probably throughout his house with scrap metal which is cheap.


ihaveitalso   January 27th, 2010 12:25 am ET

There is a serious new stress being put on our bodies and it is wireless passing through our bodies.


Marc   January 27th, 2010 10:29 am ET

It's definitely psychological. If it weren't, it wouldn't even be debated. There's not a blog debating whether a peanut allergy is physical or mental. When more than a handful of paranoid electrophobes start mystically having a reaction to electronics, I may start thinking it's real. There's two main reason I think this particular man is making it up in his head. First, I think the doctors notes from a decade is not in his favor. I think it shows a man getting fearful that the rise in electronic use was going to make him sick and, poof, instant made up disease. Secondly, any person that tries to sue someone for using electronics in their own home is completely insane. He should either pay someone to come out and "fix" the wiring so her electromagnetic waves don't "leak" over to his house or he should move...far away...into the woods...and possibly start wearing a tin foil hat like the rest of the crazies. I mean honestly, that'd be like a man in a wheel chair suing his neighbor for using their legs or a man with bad hayfever suing their neighbor for planting a garden. Just because you "can't" use electronics, it doesn't mean you neighbors shouldn't. It's madness.


W0WIE   January 27th, 2010 12:19 pm ET

Is this really a news story? The first move for dismissal will be granted.

There is no such allergy. There just isn't. Your body cannot detect or react to the kind of energy we are talking about here. Now if he were to put his head in a microwave oven, maybe that would cure him?

There is some reaction to high current levels at high frequency nearby, but you would have to sleep next to a heavily loaded power line, and the buzzing in your head would probably cause more problem than the EMF.
Communication level RF is not going to be detectable unless the person has a few hundred watts going a few feet away, not the milliwatts a cell phone puts out. Those hundreds of watts from a powerful transmitter could cause a nasty shock if you touch the antenna wire, maybe even being lethal, but NOT, repeat NOT, an allergic reaction.
He needs a shrink.


Sean   January 27th, 2010 12:55 pm ET

I think that this sounds a little made up. I understand that this may be a legit illness, but with doctors notes from "decades" ago, I am not so sure. To me, this sounds like a hypocondriac just trying to find a reason to make an issues and possible get a little cash out of the deal.


Binit Shrestha   January 27th, 2010 1:09 pm ET

Put him to the test. Have someone turn on and off a real switch and a fake switch connected to an electronic device about a hundred times and see if the device has any real effect on him when it's switched on. That's the only way to prove his condition is psychological, and then maybe NASA can put him on the next shuttle and build him a floating cabin in space :)


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Bethany Bennett   May 25th, 2010 3:13 pm ET

Most allergies can be treated by corticosteroids and also some antihistamine blockers.*-*


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Mitch   November 19th, 2010 11:03 pm ET

My wife has damage to her myelin sheath due to MS and is sensitive to certain RF in the cell phone range. Many if not all electrical devices emit some RF energy. Most electrical devices have no effect on her but the ones that do cause headaches and difficulty walking. Wi-FI and compact flourescent bulbs are the worst. She has struggled with this problem for years, but we are tech savy and have many electrical devices, some wireless and some hard wired. We had to hard wire our router and printers and disable their wireless features, we are just thankful that we can still use our equipment. She has at times been more tolerant to the devices she is sensitive to, it depends upon her physiology at the time. At first she was symptom free if the devices were at least 6-8 ft. away, then at the worst times she can detect an offending fevice in the house behind us and to either side. Not all cell phones are equal as to her sensitivity, but all compact flourescents seem to be equal. The problem is obviously in her body's ability to protect her own electrical system from outside interference. I have had training in radio and tv and know that shielding is not a practical for a person (who wants to live in a Faraday cage) neither As far as scientific testing goes, the methodologies used in all the studies I have read are highly unlikely to produce any conclusive results; for example, I brought home two different flourescent shop lights for my shop, one she could not tolerate but the other produced no effect at all. At least we know the general cause of my wife's sensitivity and how to cope with it.
If this man is sensitive, which he may well be, he is unlikely to get help from the medical or scientific community, at least not at this present time. Neither can he expect people to give up their electronics.


Gary Crowell   November 20th, 2010 1:35 am ET

Many are skeptical and seem unsympathetic because it goes against most experience. A simple controlled demonstration would go a long way to convince everyone. This would require a proper Faraday cage or RF anechoic chamber, but these can be found at EMC testing sites that are found in many areas of the US. A double-blinded demonstration of the ability to detect the presence of RF radiation would eliminate any doubt. I have access to an EMC test site, and would be glad to host a test of anyone in the Boise, ID area.


Fire Basket   December 4th, 2010 3:04 am ET

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Hiker27   March 1st, 2011 2:51 am ET

I have currently neighbours generating high electro magnetic fields in an apartment above on purpose. We can localize a maximum of radiation at the ceiling. We suspect they use a high powered ham radio or some coil. The field is so high powered that light starts flickering, cable tv gets disrupted and we feel symptoms like vibrations in the legs, tinnitus, headaches, ... We measure electrical fields with 1000volt/meter, magnetic fields >100milligauss and an increase of gamma rays from 8microrem/hour to 18microrem/hour in the middle of the room more than 6feet away from any electrical device or wiring. The creepy thing is that those neighbours reposition the device on the floor above when e.g. we go to bed. We can hear them laying the device on the floor and putting a plug into the socket. The apartment mangement and the local police do not help. Has anybody a similar experience with that kind of harassment?


Ken   March 2nd, 2011 7:22 pm ET

You can send a email or written letter to the FCC. They would be very interested in this, since it seems like your neighbors are delibertly jaming the frequency which is illegal.


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paul   May 6th, 2011 2:25 pm ET

Hate to break it to all the people commenting on the guys " imagined" condition, but it is a real problem whether you choose to believe it or not. Just goes to show you how the ignorant masses refuse to believe something that they themselves are not experiencing. To all you dumb a@$s who say" everything has electromagnetic fields' sound just like the ghetto reject jury member from the OJ trail stating" Blood? everybody got blood, that don't prove nuffin" You need to look into this issue whether you are electromagnetically sensitive yet or not, because its just going to get worse as more and more cell tower, wifi hot spot, and EMF are put in every building and city. If the neighbor was burning trash for an HOUR and the smoke was getting in his house they would crack down on it, but this radiation is going on 24 hours a day, but since it can;t be seen or sensed by the majority of people it doesn't exist, Well it does and it is going through every cell in your body every time you are in those fields and it is causing damage at a cellular level. Once again the euros are at the forefront of taking care of thier people see this from the UK, one of the least protective euro countries;

http://wifiinschools.org.uk/index.html


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Sylvan   October 26th, 2011 9:30 am ET

I feel compelled to say something.
I am appalled by the number of people making assumptions in this area.
I also have this sensitivity – especially to wifi and flourescent lights.I do not regard it as an illness. I think it extremely unlikely that these devices are not bad for everybody. I am not a scientist but I note that
our bodies evolved after 4,000,000 ,000 years plus of the earth being bathed in a vast sea of radiation from the sun (including the frequencies wi fi uses). We are adapted to it, grew up in it and evolved in response to it. This incursion of wifi is very new, is broadcasting a fantastic amount of information (the entire internet), and has no relation to what is coming from the sun (or stars for that matter).
Two things seem clear to me:1. The chances that this new radiation will not be having some effect on evolving creatures on the earth are tiny.
2. Sciences` ability to test for this may be extremely limited, especially given the totally materialistic framework and assumptions used by what people call "science" today.
Some people on this site like to say "its` all in his mind" and someone merely saying – like me, or him, or Mitchs` wife, or Karen or Paul or Ken or Muzz or many others- FEELS it does not mean it is really there. But ALL knowledge of all kinds anybody has, at some point depends on a person – yes folks a wobbly protoplasmically embodied PERSON, somewhere reading a screen or measuring something or perceiving something – directly or indirectly. This point, which Karl Popper makes somewhere, and Winston Churchill, is not properly evaluated by those who dismiss all direct testimony as unscientific while making a host of other assumptions which they don`t care to acknowledge.
On the legal side : maybe American law gives this guy no chance, I don`t know,- but the legal system that does not allow citizens` to look after the health of their own bodies, free from influences from outside that would damage it – such as poisonous water , and to decide to "opt out" of anything experimental or controversial or where there is
doubt about its long-term effects, is seriously flawed. This opt out to having things imposed on you willy nilly without your consent is extremely important. It helped people see sense and stop putting the deadly poison flouride in water in the Netherlands. It seems to me
it should clearly gives this guy a legal case.
Ultimately this case is partly about the validity and state of modern science.
Do we want to have a science that can prove anything you want it to(and large financial interests are involved in promoting wifi), that dismisses out of hand what a significant proportion of people say,
in favour of "objective" measurements, that faciltates and appears to encourage the persecution of an individual because his truth is so different to what the majority can stand?


Guest   January 2nd, 2012 11:54 am ET

Electro sensitivity unfortunately is very real. I've had it for almost 10 years. first it was just computer screens, now it's cell phones, tvs and flourescent lights. my face heats up and gets inflamed. even with sun screen. only 10 minutes on a blackberry and I get a fever, my face heats up and i feel awful really sick. by the end of the day at work my eyes are comeplety swollen. i wish to God this illness was not real. i take a lot of anti-oxidants that seem to help a little. vitamin e helps with the inflammation. i thought it was lupus because i had small round pacthes on my skin but doc said no. i'm not as senstive as this guy and God i hope i never will be or any of you here doubting his illness will every get this. it's so delibitatting b/c its everywehre.


Gary   January 2nd, 2012 12:36 pm ET

Has anyone given thought that perhaps it's not the RF? Are these people instead, sensitive to the chemicals used to fabricate electronic devices? The variety of devices that these people claim sensitivity to, emit dramatically different levels and frequencies of RF, but they all use the same pretty common fabrication methods. And there are a -lot- of different chemicals used to fabricate, assemble, and clean, electronic devices. And they outgas; ask NASA.

And remember, the plural of anecdotes is not data. Proper double-blind testing is required to validate any claim.


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