Sony said problems with its PlayStation Network that kept some PlayStation 3 users from playing games on or offline has been resolved.
A posting on the PlayStation blog said Sony officials have identified the cause as a leap year bug in the clocks on their older PS3 units. The newer slim PS3 consoles were not affected.
The posting said the internal clocks wanted to treat 2010 as a leap year, making March 1 into February 29. When the clocks rolled over to March 1, Sony “verified that the symptoms are now resolved and that users are able to use their PS3 normally.”
Sony suggests that anyone continuing to have problems should adjust time setting manually or via the Internet.
But the outage frustrated many PlayStation users, who lit up blogs and message boards with angry comments. One PS3 user said the episode prompted him to go buy an Xbox 360 console.
“I've stuck with Sony through the years, but ... this failure by Sony pushed me from thinking to doing,” a user named Jumping Ship posted to CNN.com's Tech blog. “Sony lost a customer. You have to think there are more people out there doing or contemplating the same thing.”
“I find it completely unacceptable they allowed most of their customer base to endure this outage. Sony waited this out rather than take action to resolve the issue,” wrote Jamesg, another CNN.com reader. “I believe Sony was aware this would be a problem and had a plan of not addressing it. Sony should be held accountable for allowing a known defect to manifest itself in a 24-hour outage for millions of their loyal customers.”
Some Xbox 360 owners took the opportunity to taunt rival PS3 users online about the problem, while PS3 owners fired back about the “Red Ring of Death” glitches that have plagued the Xbox.
Other PS3 owners decided to wait it out and were rewarded for their patience when Sony announced the problem had been resolved.
In a post on its Web site Monday, Sony addressed the symptoms of the outage. The company said error messages and glitches included the following:
• The date of the PS3 system may be re-set to Jan 1, 2000.
• When the user tries to sign in to the PlayStation Network, the following message appears on the screen; “An error has occurred. You have been signed out of PlayStation Network (8001050F)”.
• When the user tries to launch a game, the following error message appears on the screen and the trophy data may disappear; “Failed to install trophies. Please exit your game.”
• When the user tries to set the time and date of the system via the Internet, the following message appears on the screen; “The current date and time could not be obtained. (8001050F)”
• Users are not able to play back certain rental videos downloaded from the PlayStation Store before the expiration date.
iReport: Were you affected by the PS3 outage?
Sony said there were more than 40 million users in its PlayStation Network as of last month. There was no official word on how many were impacted by the error.
Posted by: Larry Frum for CNN.comFiled under: Sony video games
well at least I know its not just me having this problem, but god dam I wanna play some modern warfare 2
Right on Sony way to push Digital Rights Management and insist to the world that the customer loves being told how to use THEIR hardware (I guess to Sony we are just leasing it). Even Steve Jobs knew DRM was a big bag of fail. Note to Sony if you are going to assume your customers are all thieves you might want to make sure your software and hardware people are competent enough to not lock out all your good faith customers. This issue is caused because some putz in Japan didn't realize not all even years are leap years and due to the internal DRM users are locked out because the PS3 thinks all 20 million systems are currently being hacked. If I was a Sony shareholder I might be thinking of dumbing my shares before this because the EPIC fail tech story of the year.
Sony fails again...next time> xbox
Lets see what Sony does now that the press is involved. I bet answers are coming soon.
I fixed the problem by removing the clock battery thereby resetting the internal clock.
The problem is something to do with the date switching to March 1st 2010. Perhaps a leap year calculation problem.
Opening the case and resetting the clock is a technical job that will void your warranty. I have a custom case and have already done that.
There is every possibility that the problem will right itself on March 2nd.
The network is not down. The prevailing theory is that coming of March 1, 2010 has apparently made an internal hardware error to manifest itself. The internal clock thinks it's Feb 29, 2010, and the rest of the system throws up errors saying no such date. The reason I believe this theory is true, is because people that have never had their PS3 online have had their clocks reset automatically to December 31, 1999 after the internal clock ticked over to the invalid date.
What I've been able to glean so far from browsing around is that this is a real time clock error on older model PS3's. The change from 2/28 to 3/1 apparently didn't work. My PS3 clock was reset to 12/31/2000 and when I set it manually at 10:40pm last night, that is what it still said when I turned it back on this morning. Your internet browser/network connection still works, so presumably users can still get a firmware update if that is what ultimately is required to fix the issue. On the other hand, if it's an internal hardware problem, what will Sony do? Give us all PS3 slims? A refund? There are going to be a lot of irate users out there if all their game saves and trophy information is wiped out. Let's not even mention error 80010514...
I noticed a problem Sunday morning when one of my online friends continued having log on problems. I began having problems later that day around 8:00pm. Sony has not stated if they know what the problem is or when they plan on restoring service. I can understand network problems interupting online play but not to be able to play my 60.00 games offline is ridiculous. I hope after the problem is corrected the offline problems never happen again.
Human sacrifices, dogs & cats living together, mass hysteria!!!!
HAHA console n00bs!!
If this was the Xbox 360, all of the Microsoft haters would be fired up!
What a complete PR nightmare.. it seems more elaborate problems have gone hand in hand with the rapid growth of the game industry. Red Ring of death to now this.. wow.
Get an xbox, that will sovle this problem.
Hey xbox fanboy, remember when Live was down for a solid week?
XBOX fans are laughing.?
while my ps3 works fine, i have a triple stack of 360's all red ringing.
Good Golly Ms Molly, PS3 on-line down? This give you people time to get a discover there is a real world outside your door, read a book, go shop, and most import of all, get outside and get some exercise.
my boyfriend and I had this problem last night while switching from game mode to netflix. he sent under settings and made the time and date right, and it worked.
I don't want the stinking slim. Cant' play my ps2 games on that. My old school 80GB PS3 works just fine. Give me an update.
yeahh hurry up lol.. i wanna play MW2 lmao.. atleast im not the only one lol
Haha, Xbox live is working. MW2 is fun.....Should have bought the real system....
Hey XBox fanboy, I have an xbox 360 also please don't get me started. Let's just say that's why I bought a PS3.
Sony Corporation – Attempting to divide by zero since 1946.
This also affects Netflix on PS3. I could not sign on last night.......
Might be old news, but thanks to a certain hardware/software guru, and from various of sources and efnet they are able to at least give the letdown why this problem is happening. Quoted.
Well the gist is that the ARM SYSCON CPU that is used to power up the front panel of the ps3, that is responsible for doing things like sleep mode, eject, RTC etc. Is an old batch that sony picked up from the shelf like other manufacturers that has that calendar year bug regarding feburary 29th on certain periods. Causing the ps3 system clock and the real time clock to desync, messing up security measures like Digital Rights management software and sometimes games that relies on clocks for whatever reason. As well as signing up to the playstation network... This CPU is always on even when your PS3 isn't plugged
This problem is also happening with various of test Ps3 models, particulary the ones that has the emotion engine cpu/gpu for ps2 dev.
This is the one of the same type of CPUs that is powering up mobile devices like zune and blackberries, they have been affected with this bug, so they done some software patches. A syscon update can also fix this problem
The Slims ps3s aren't affected because they use a newer up to date revision on the syscon cpu that fixes this bug.
A quick way to fix this is to remove the RTC battery for at least 5-10 min and plug it back in, you will see the date and time reset, and voila...
BTW all this was quoted from some ps3 hardware gurus and tested by various of peeps on efnet, all thanks to them for the information
One cannot wait to hear Sony's excuse for this one, They might play innocent for using off the shelve parts and blame manufacturers
Date Edited:3/1/2010 4:57:54 AM (2 edits total) edited by: Fishcake21
Well, i know i'm not affected by it.
FYI for Sony: Leap years occur every 4 and 400 years, but not every 100 years – starting at zero. 2000 was a leap year, 1900 and 2100 are not. 2010 is NOT a leap year! Oops...
Can we get our firmware upgrades please? Now, if that's not enough to fix the issue, this could be one of the biggest consumer electronics SNAFU's of all time.
This type of outage can be inconvenient, sure. However I would much rather deal with Sony applying an update to this fix than to have my system lock up with a red ring, and have to send it back to the manufacturer. Thats just bad hardware. Cant blame Sony for handling a huge infrastructure as the PSN is, and all for free.
This issue seems to be impacting about everyone with an older system (pre-slim). The reason for the issue is a date algorithm in the older systems where one algorithm was incorrectly coded to handle 2010 as a leap year so at the end of GMT FEB 28 2010 this issue surfaced. Being that the newer PS3's did not have this issue, it is obvious that SONY was aware of the issue and corrected it in the more recent models. This is just another case of large corporation cover up, and it is still unknown at this time if the issue can be corrected with a software upgrade or it it will indeed require hardware replacement. Being that the issue can cause trigger a lot of processing with the conflicting date calculations in the two algorithm's, some older units that were left powered on were confirmed to over heat and were physically damaged by this issue. Regardless, SONY is going to have to acknowledge this issue and work on a means to make this right with their customers. It is estimated that this issue impacts more than 70% of the PS3 users in the world.
Hey x-box peeps: 1) I don't have to try to get a months credit of PSN. (it's free sucka!) 2) XBL hasn't had any problems at all? Really!? 3) My PS3 hasn't rrod'ed
Exactly what Kylan said... x10
It seems is the same problem Microsoft had with Zune players last year.
In all seriousness this isn't that big of a deal, so the internal clock got confused, so what? As long as it gets fixed it's a whole lot better than worrying about a hardware issue like the red ring of death
What a joke. Getting a X-BOX!!!!
Indeed, this is a hardware problem that will effectively fix itself when the internal system clock rolls over to March 2, 2010.
As aggravating as it has been, this is still much less frustrating than when my 360 suffered the RRoD, which was permanent, all encompassing, and required 6 week turnaround through Microsoft for replace/repair.
I cant believe that with today's technology something like his can happen. I understand networks going down and not being able to retrieve online information is one thing but to not be able to play a game offline is absolutely absurd. The outcome of this should be interesting. Not only from users but from game designers that are not able to due their jobs because of this issue.
O man, I guess its good cos I have finals and exams coming up.
I miss owning some n00bs on COD4 tho..sigh
I've had some good times with my 60 gb PS3, but that's despite Sony's best efforts to the contrary. The PSN connectivity has been an issue from day 1.
+1 Xbox 360, -1 PS3. Just can't beat Xbox Live.
I really enjoy my PS3. I find the games interesting diversions.
However, they're games...get a life people.
It never fails to amaze me how many perfect people there are out there, never making mistakes and being so intolerant of people who do.
Thank G-D for people like you!
@asdf: this has nothing to do with sony and DRM. so stop whining about stock prices and DRM and steve jobs.
Apparently an off the shelf CPU that sony used in its earlier models that powers on part of the front panel of the PS3 has a leap year bug in it that couldn't handle the transition from Feb 28 to Mar 1. Apparently the Zune had a similar component with the same leap year bug.
Newer PS3 models use an updated component and don't suffer this bug. I'm sure Sony will sort it out. Bottom line, crap like this happens with a complex machine like the PS3. Wait it out, its not the end of the world.
I had this problem last night. Couldn't log in. This is only a number in the long list of problems I have been having with my PS3 system lately. After sending in my system and being charged 180.00 for it to be "fixed", i still have the same problems, AND now this. Thanx Sony. I agree...a big bag of FAIL on Sony's part. Next time, XBOX.
I find it very scary how our DLC has been deactivated by this. It is clear there is some kind of Digital Rights Management (DRM) installed and all it takes is some calendar bug to strip us of the software we purchased, downloaded, and installed on the consoles WE OWN!!!
DRM is evil! Sony has complete control over the equipment and software we supposedly own! Just one bungle by them and we lose access to it all.
Great, Sony's becoming more like the US government: BROKEN. WTF SONY?
no one checked issues, anticipated it? im not a programmer, but i hope someone gets canned for this, we payed money for error codes for days? sony better fix it or there reputation is gonna be garbage, why make games no one will buy it cause its so iffy and unreliable. All that money in advertising, but none on brains, way to go pinheads.
Talk about frustrated I couldnt even play my games offline. I was about 2 shakes of a lambs tail from flinging the PS3 out the window. I finally prefer the PS over the XBox then this happens. I'm glad I still had an XBOX.
no problems. But I remember, the XBOX 360 Red Ring of Death
@ Neil L.,
"+1 Xbox 360, -1 PS3. Just can't beat Xbox Live."
Except.. when Xbox live was down for a week.. or you can't access Xbox Live because your Xbox red ring'd.. or, if you want to play any of the PS3 exclusives because.. you know.. Xbox can't do that.
Wait.. I just beat Xbox live, I think.
This is ridiculous. Even out here in Japan, we are also affected.
"Y2K Bug Hits PS3, 10 Years and 2 Months Late"
its fixed !
Good thing my xbox live account works just fine ;)
First Toyota now Sony...
At least is isn't affecting steering or braking...
lol. I have both (buy multi-platform games on the 360 because I like the controller better), but I haven't had any problems like that. Then again, I haven't played a game on it in a while, watched a Blu-Ray last night.
Yeah, because Xbox Live has never been down before, has it? I know you could still play games but come on – it's just a little hiccup that older PS3 models are suffering from. There is no reason to say Sony has "failed again." Just play some other things or do something productive while the issue is being fixed.
Also, whoever said that thing about Steve Jobs: What the hell do you think iTunes is? It's a massive DRM cesspool.
why is everyone making such a big deal about this its not that bad not as bad as xbox red ring of death that microsoft makes their consumer pay for glitch atleast sony has always fixed their problems
CNN, thanks for posting this and putting pressure on these knuckleheads. I will probably go with an XBOX when it comes time to purchase a new system. This is pretty bad. What's worse is that their tone the tweets and updates seems almost rude... not great Sony...
I can understand/wouldn't really mind if just the psn network was down, but I paid for the games and the system. Sony should not be able to have control over when i play them. Not being able to play the games offline = Epic Fail
At least it's not a brake or accelerator problem.
ROFL! nerds of the world whine!
Let this be your opportunity to get up off your mom's couches and go outside in the sunlight!
I requested Monday off from work to catch up on my online gaming? COD:MW2 will have to wait, but for how long??? WTF!!!! I have a 2 year warranty with store, will they honor a new SLIM console? Now, that my console has been corrupted???? I want answers....I am at home without my $500 investment!
I'm in the UK and am not going to even contemplate turning my PS3 on. However I'm going to try my hand at real life simulator... Tis a sunny day too. PS3 prob will be fixedin good time. Read a book or summink people.
This problem is annoying but truth be told this is the first time I've ever had an issue with my PS3...unlike the 360 which I had to go through 3 of because of hardware failures and red-rings-of-death.
This is a software problem that will likely correct itself in about 7 hours or Sony will put out a firmware update.
Am I happy this happened? No, of course not. But I'll take a minor software issue (and I would consider not being able to use the system for 1 day a minor software issue) over a hardware failure any day of the week.
I discovered the problem Sunday evening when I tried to get an online Netflix movie. I have not tested, but I assume that I will have the same problems with my games (like MW2). I agree with everyone, this is complete bs. I could understand a network issue where we can't connect to the PSN but not being able to play a game we paid good money for and own the disc? That's rediculous. I doubt this would come down to a hardware swap but if that happens I will be furious. Like someone already commented, I have the 80 gig PS3 which was one of the last models that allowed you to play PS2 games, of which I have about 25. Pretty sure Sony will be getting a lot of hate mail and lost customers over this if it isn't fixed soon.
GLAD I GOT THE SLIM PS3
xbox have some crappy games. xbox people are in denial hahaah
Good thing I have a wii and an xbox 360.
To all the Xbox idiots out there....this happened to the XBox a couple of years ago around xmas and was down for almost 2 weeks.
and to asdf, you in particular are an idiot. Why don't you blame the stupid loser that hacked the PS3 then shared it to the world? Sony has every right to put DRM on their systems. Look at what happened to the PSP. That was DOA due to pirates. Both Sony and developers have lost hundreds of millions of dollars due to pirated games and the legal users of the PSP have been hosed with a system no one supports anymore due to it and every game has been hacked to death online.
Also, jobs dismissed DRM due to the fact that people wanted to import their music from so many different sources and burn them to CD's which would have made the iPod useless to most if they couldn't do it. Sony is in a completely different position.
its a shambles you making us look bad we desrve a free game download or something for this
This sucks...I wanna play some MAG!! And Battlefield Bad Company 2 is coming out tomorrow too....Better hurry!
I love the lame comments from 360 fanboys, as well as the OMG angry flip out reactions of some here. This is when you can tell the ages and intelligence level of some posters. Seriously, it's annoying and all, I want to play Heavy Rain myself, but you people flipping out over it need to get lives.
"next time xbox" /whiney voice
If you think xbox is infalable good luck with your RROD then..
I agree that gaming hardware ha sbeen real crap this generation of consoles. But they all have issues. I had my 360 RROD once, fixed and it wa sok, my sons never died (so far) I have 2 ps3's on of them effected by this bug.. after more then 3 years of playing it , it has been the only problem with it for me. it sucks but it is not an major issue. THis world has just no patience anymore and to much Rage!>
Looks like xbox wins agian like we always do YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!
FYI for Ralph in Oregon City: 2010 is not divisible by 100. Everything you posted was irrelevant and based on your own lack of mathematical comprehension.
This just in, all driving games are having issues with the accelerator getting stuck wide open.
this is crazy, xbox people laughing yours will come around, i'm pretty sure psn is down however i don't pay for it its free so i expect some things to not go right. But this is unbelieveable I can't even get a rep on the phone and that makes me even madder. playstation clock is ticking.......
I have been affected by this I own an original 60gb PS3 (the greatest ps3 ever made) and it will not play games on or offline, my time and date will not work and I can not log into the PSN of course. Way to go Sony. Maybe if we paid for the service you guys would work harded, you see gamers you get what you pay for.
LMAO the part about getting an XBOX I almost fell out of my chair. after the 3rd RRD I Gave up all hopes of Microsoft ever building a high quality console. I know this is frustrating for a lot of people but it will be fixed.
Now that you all cannot sit behind your PS3's. Go sit and chat to your
mom and dad, or maybe, god forbid, read a book or give an old friend
a call and catch-up. I'm sure Sony will have this whole, earth shattering mess, sorted out in a day or so. In the mean time, welcome back to humanity ;-)
Reset your date and time. fixed.
Yes, this indeed stinks. I took a nap after the hockey game yesterday, thinking I would stay up late playing Heavy Rain before the work week began. I was BLOWN. Wide awake until 2 – 3 a.m. with absolutely nothing to do (watched cops / america's most wanted off the dvr). I hope Sony offers some sort of compensation for us 'fat' ps3 owners. Spent $500 on that thing and expect it to work when I have the free time for it. Otherwise it's a complete waste of money.
Please send me a PSN giftcard or free videogame or something. My game pass is going to waste. We could easily add up the amount we should be compensated – Internet: $60 a month ($2/day), Gamepass: $25 a month ($1/day), Netflix: $20 a month ($1/day), Time spent trying to get system to work: $10?
So, basically we are looking at around $5 compensation per person per day. But if you factor in expenses like rent (need place to play ps3), snacks/drinks (for when playing ps3), etc., it can add up to more. Please leave my compensation in a brown paper bag in unmarked bills and leave it behind the Giant shopping center.
My PS3 went down yesterday. My time and date were reset to 12/31/05. My downloadable content is completely inaccessible. Wipeout HD/Fury has reset to a demo mode on my hard drive.
Wait until your new car is loaded with software and it gets a virus or needs an update which shuts down your car or the virus makes your car speed up. Keep computer downloadable technology out of cars. And yes this has nothing to do with the story. he he
i dipped my ps3 in a tub of hot water and it works fine now.. must have been dirty
OH NO! my ps3 isn't working! Now i have to go outside and actually have a life!!! OH NO OH NO OH NO!
I just want to know why it is not effecting the slim models??? what is the difference if it is a network issue... also some people have said the network was hacked, is this the problem that is accuring??? & most of all when will it be fixed? is there a time yet???
I hope they get it fixed fast i need to get online to play Nascar 09
Speaking of time discrepancies, how is it that these posts are from the future? The last post I see was posted at 1:13pm EST, but it's only 12:30pm EST!!!!!!!
I can't believe all of the Xbox fans laughing about PSN being down.
1. PSN is FREE
2. LIVE was down for a full week at one point
This is the first error i've ever had with the ps3, I love the amount of people complaining or saying they'll get an xbox? I hear nothing but bad things about xbox hardware... my friend went through 2 already. I'm glad I bought a ps3 over an xbox. You kids need to get off your couch and find something else to entertain you for a day which I know must be pretty hard.
I have a PS3. Yesterday I was trying to play MLB 09 and I couldn't see it because it was only black screen.
Stop whinnying guys, the service is FREE!!!!!!!!!!
Well there you go. I was wondering what happened last night. Blah this sucks!
Oh – in closing – FFS, stop Xbox vs PS3 war. Get a box that makes you happy. End of story.
This is less of a problem than the thousands of people whose PS3s stopped reading discs because of the laser failing. The 360s RRoD may have been on a larger scale but at least they admitted a problem and fixed it at their cost. Sony charges $150 for them to fix something that shouldn't have failed anytime close to when they have.
does anybody what the outcome is weather its a hardware or software issue
So much mud being slung around here. Don't forget that we're not paying for our service to be down. Ours is free.
The only thing that annoys me is that I can't play MW2 offline. This is just like what Ubisoft are suggesting for the PC, only we weren't informed.
Seems kinda serious? I have an older version of the PS3 and use it daily for all of my entertainment needs i.e. netflix, games, online gaming, etc. I have read all of the posts and I have no issues regarding anything. The date switched over just fine, and im not having any issues getting online. I hope for everybody having issues Sony fixes the problem quickly! P.S. That would suck to have those kinda issues!
why do people always think the worst, and that "we may have to send in our consoles for a fix"? at WORST, there will be a firmware update that we can download on a USB stick, or burn, and pop it in...at WORST. more likely, tomorrow, everything will be fine!
wow i cant think that sonny will say those fat 80gb dont gonna work not more is sad whats going on with ps3 hope xbox take advantage of this and make fun of sonny ps3 am mad and hope cnn help us to uncover the true and have this news in the air we are a big family that love ps3
wow this is good new i thought my boyfriend was going to have a full blown melt down since he thought it was his playstation breaking and not a playstation network error.
it is a bit outrageous that you can't even play games offline. but i play games online for free and not asked to pay for psn so were still one up on xbox. think playstation is the only one people hack? Then you haven't played borderlands on xbox. remember the first borderlands they had an update where you could buy this thing and make your own guns on the game. once they saw people could hack that and make guns unbelieveable strong, they immediatley removed that. however people still got to keep there guns and they have a way to clone the guns. you get into a match the person drops all their guns and the host kicks them then whoever was in the match can pick up the guns and the person kicked logs back in and still has their guns. xbox is hacked just like psn but again PSN IS FREE. I have full support for sony. i am going crazy i can't play mwf2, but it will be fixed.
i have a 360 and love it, but am still a fan of playstation, for everyone that is saying should have bought a real system. i had to send my 360 back to microsoft 2 times and ive had live problems. the red ring of death, if i get it one more time ill be going back to playstaion. hope you guys arent down to long i know how it is wanting to play some mwf 2
Since you have some time on your hands why don't you quit complaining and go get a job!!! Same for you Xbox players.
hey sony remember that (dre) lawsuit for the ps2?
i realy dont see the need to switch to xbox considering you have to buy every thing seperate eg ext hdd just to save not only that you have to pay for xbox live on top of internet charges so i think i will wait for sony to get shit figured out buy the way xbox 360 has had way more bugs than ps3 and still do so to all the nay sayers wanting to switch to the crapbox giver ill stick with the free online and better hardware
I find it funny how these xbox idiots comment about the ps3. I used to have a 360 and it sucked so bad, everything you wanted cost money, and the issues were way worse than this, I have had my ps3 longer than my 360 and its the first time I have had a problem with it. My 360 on the other hand, I have had to service atleast 6 times because of hardware issues and then the RROD. So everyone who has a 360, WE dont CARE about your xbox. PS3 is way better and you will find out when your tired of broken 360s. Atleast this problem can be fixed without costing us anything.
hope rick sanchez say something about this today
I need my MW2 online. I would hate to get up off of this couch and get exercise.
My children are only allowed to play Friday night, saturday and Sunday afternoon. This was a bummer for them. Hopefully they have it fixed by next Friday. Hard to reward them for working hard in school all week, just to be blocked from playing.
Well, I may have to pay for Xbox LIVE, but at least i get what I pay for – a quick and efficient online service which never fails me.
Could this have caused physical damage to the console as one user has suggested or is it just a coincindence that my ps3 has no power to it?
I can't get on either, I have the 60GB model.
What a PR nightmare for Sony.
YLOD, Blu-Ray Issues, and now this.... Makes me glad I bought an XBOX 360 too.
Um...for all of the Xbox users...since when did a PS3 ever have the red rings of death, hmm...Never. oh and i get free wireless and my inernet browser isn't dumbed down and i can play blu ray. not only that, but my game discs can hold 10 times the information that a xbox game disc can, and be able to process it all because the cpu is far superior to the xbox cpu. One or 2 days offline with a PS3=much more to be desired than 2 weeks offline on the 50 dollar hardware that makes up the Xbox 360. Have a nice day playing with the inferior.
I understand that the PSN can crashed, be down, etc... but it's ridiculous that I can't play any games offline. Sony better come up with a solution soon, or millions of PS3 owners worldwide will switch consoles.
Almost had Dante's Inferno all the way finished on expert, and if all of my trophies don't come back imma be really p.oed. I've got the fatty, and don't plan to upgrade to a slim. I guess im just gonna have to play xbox instead...
Okay i think we should pressure them i paid a lot of money for my ps3 for it not to work again im very disappointed on ps3 for letting this happen it better get fixed soon
This is right on the cusp of the BFBC2 release tomorrow. I don't know how this is CNN breaking news, but i guess for Sony, this is pretty serious. I am confused as to why the older units are being affected, but the newer units are just having a merry old time.
I would say I'm going back to my X-box but that piece of junk isn't worth the time and effort with all the bugs that thing has had.
this is rediculous i thought my ps3 crashed but i hopem its fixed soon i need some mw2 in my life!!!
Sony said another 24 hrs before the network is up and working
"Also, whoever said that thing about Steve Jobs: What the hell do you think iTunes is? It's a massive DRM cesspool."
While there items on iTunes which contain DRM restrictions, namely apps and video, music on iTunes has been completely free of DRM for quite some time now.
Stick to Xbox. PS3 is a dying system. The only thing worth while on it is the Blu-Ray player. Most of the games you can get on the 360 and the ones just for PS are crap. Xbox only games blow all of them out of the water. Left 4 Dead anyone?
I can't log on to play Heavy Rain....Jeez......I turn on my XBOX and I got the red rings of death....FML....
This is why you buy the American system and not the Japanese system. American products are much better quality.
well sony its alright at least i don't have to send back my system to you guys like x box to get fixed that takes a whole month. I will always stick with you guys ever since ps1.
I think you can fix this by just loading a tic-tac-toe game into your PS3. :)
Does anybody know if this is fixed yet?
@ Jeff & @ Carl....LOL
thats really a disgrace for sony, come on sony engineers its 2010 not 1910, i dont think such mistakes are still allowed in these days... i always deffended PS but now am not so sure about it anymore
1st off XBOX LIVE has NEVER been down an entire week...Sony is always having problems with its console/online service...its great that it is free but you know the old saying...you get what you pay for...NEVER had these problems with my 360 on my PS3, thats why most gamers prefer XBOX live, $3.50 per month is a fair price for the best online service on the planet.
I love how all of these Xbox users are using this isolated incident to disparage Sony/Playstation. I'd like to remind these people that Microsoft purposefully allows flawed Xboxes to be distributed and sold in order to maintain profits; this is why 40% of Xboxes code "red" (red light) and have to be returned to Xbox to be "refurbished". Refurbished. Microsoft doesn't send you a new Xbox. Instead, Microsoft sends you an old Xbox that used to belong to someone else that they sent in to be repaired/refurbished. This process takes 10-15 business days (at least); much longer than the day or two it will take for the PSN to be repaired.
Microsoft also doesn't credit your Xbox-Live account during these repair days (in essence charging you in the form of your Xbox-Live dues while they fix a product that they knew was faulty before they even sent it out to be sold). On the other hand, Playstation users are not charged for their online gaming (another benefit of owning a PS3).
Whether it be for free online gaming, a Blue-Ray disc player, rechargeable controllers, unrestricted online gaming (language, cheats, etc.) or quality of product, it is difficult (if not impossible) to argue that Microsoft sells a better product than Sony. Period.
The fact is, this error is affected PS3's which are not network connected. This error is preventing off-the-shelf games like Heavy Rain from playing because the DRM that the system uses is preventing the game from working. This error has not bricked the system (that we know of) like RROD bricked XBoxes. This error has corrupted DLC content which was paid for, save games when those games attempted to startup, and trophies, which are milestones that the gamer has achieved.
I'm irritated at the comments to 'go see the sun' and 'be patient this isn't Sony's fault'. If you delete user data, destroy customer-paid content, or otherwise cause damage to things of value – you are responsible legally for restitution. Right now I have a $400 device which will not work, dozens of $60 games which will not work, and it is because of this error.
So why the outrage? Well apparently Sony knew about this problem, fixed it in more recent systems. Then, when it happened, they waited 8 hours to even acknowledge it, leading more customers to try and figure out what was going on, causing more damage.
Sony should have said something – when they fixed the hardware, and when the complaints started. Their silence is damning and deafening.
As bad as this is (and it's bad), I wouldn't trade my PS3 for an Xbox 360. They couldn't pay me to give up my game system/Blu-ray player for a game system that overheats, charges me to play over the Internet and can't even play Blu-ray discs.
Please fix this soon, Sony.
I'll take this over a red ring of death anyday!
My multi-billion dollar company console is better than your muti-billion dollar console.
Nothings made the way it used to be. I've had the YLOD with my PS3 and had to have it repaired twice in a month. An old Sega Genesis you could do anything short of throwing it out of a moving car and it would work. Todays newer technology is innovative but urinate on a rock near it and you've got problems. PS3, XBOX360, tv's even the newer so called smart cell phones are just not built to last and to make matters worse the customer service is terrible too.
Another reason I am glad for the existence of my X-Box.
yea me too. i tried going online last night but i couldn't. gotta play some COD 2 man..
It is an inconvenience, don't get me wrong, but you get what you pay for (it's free) and in this era when we want it now, will we even remember this in a couple months? I love how all of the xbox fans come out of their holes as soon as there is an issue with PS3 and are quick to jump on the blogs, I guess that's b/c their games aren't that entertaining. I had an Xbox and when next gen came out, I took a minute to compare 360 to PS3 and it was very easy to determine why I have a PS3. Xbox 360 fans are simply afraid of change and not educated enough on a technical level to understand which is the better system...which is why Microsoft is still haggling to get the bluray patent off of Sony for the Xbox. Any IT tech will tell you they have a PS3 and I'm not going to get into this anymore b/c xbox users are just stubborn. They are impulse buyers and a marketer's dream, like selling a candy to a baby, bitter & envious suckers
I highly doubt your guru/tech people said what you quoted. it reads like a 5 yr old.
My kids do not play online at all.
Does this problem effect those players who just play the games at home by themselves?
Unplug you wireheads! A miracle such as the internet is down for such a tiny time and you people are lost. Kill your PS3/XBox save your mind!
"Give us something free!" Isn't Sony's network free anyway? Doesn't XBox charge for their network?
Open a book if you remember how to read. There are more adventures in books than in eyecandy.
Play a game of monopoly, backgammon or cards with your parents/kids/siblings.
Go hunting or fishing if you're that bloodthirsty.
Very Smart Sony!! A little free Publicity before the "GOD" of all games releases. Ladies & Gentlemen GOD OF WAR 3!!!! WOOHOO!!!
march 2, and the problem is still unresolved. Any ideas anyone?
xbox fatboy we dont pay for online...
This is a minor glitch compared to the Red Ring of Death. It might just give some people an excuse to go outside and get some fresh air, and dare I say it, some exercise.
how sad is that sony, and even worse, I can't even play the games I PAID FOR offline, so when do we all get a slim delivered?
cant believe it no on line gaming. think sony shud give us all free map pack for modern warfare 2. also new ps3 slim for everyone for the inconvience....................
Yet another reason why it just makes more sense to get an Xbox for this generation.
All I know is, this better not cost me one cent! I waited in line 2hrs the day ps3 dropped not to mention the $600 cost.
Any on a note to the "Zomg RROD x-box users!" Because yes, while the 360 has a definite software defect that kills it, so does the PS3. It just doesn't hit as often. My sister had her PS3 for about 2 months before there was a hardware error that essentially made it a nice expensive paper weight until it got fixed. I've had my 360 for several years without the RRoD so it happens to both sides.
I love my 360, much more than the PS3. Has nothing to do with the hardware though, it's just that beyond Uncharted 1 & 2 and perhaps Heavy Rain, there isn't anything that made me want to spend twice as much money on a system that plays essentially the same games.
let me start off by saying that I have owned every Playstation on the market except the PSP,(I can't see the screen that well),and I would just like to echo a few of the people's comments already posted.
I can understand a network being down for some maintience from time to time but to not even be able to play my games offline, well that's another story.
I don't understand how an internal clock issue has anything to do with my ability to play a DISC Based game.
I am disabled and don't get to enjoy some of the other things in life so I spend my time escaping the disability into my games.
They give me great joy,comfort and a feeling of accomplishment when I see that I have earned a trophy or weapon upgrades.
This is totatally wrong of SONY to be able to dictate when I am able to play and I can only hope that someone with a little power can put enough pressure on them to rectify this problem.
Thanks for listening !
Good Call on that one. I'm glad I'm not paying for network use, I would be furious .
I wonder what The Angry Video Game Nerd would say about this?
how long does it take to fix this?? or are they waiting for 3/2/10.et. (if so, letus know) I cant believe i cant play any games offline. sony, im hooking up my nintendo and playing techmo bowl. btw. thank u cnn.
well i hope this prblem is fixed soon :( i cant play MW2 an this aint good not good at all...i have way to much money into my system for it not to work ....SONY FIX IT QUICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will take 1 day off from my PS3 over dealing with a xbox 360 red ring of death anyday.
December 31, 1999? Is this a Y2K bug 10 years late?
Well at least they are working on it, but they need to hurry. I am starting to get the shakes from not playing Modern Warfare 2. Also I have read that we (old playstation model owners) may have to buy new playstations because of this. If that is the case then Sony better help w/ that expense. My playstation is just fine and in good shape and I will be pissed if I have to spend all the money to get a new PS# slim because of their system error. Hopefully this will not be the case, but it is the word on the street..
I have the 250g model that I bought this past Christmas. I don't remember it saying if it was slim or not. Will this be a problem for me? Should I not try to log in to PSN when I get home?
hank, I am one of those techies. not about to get into a contest here, Blu Ray discs hold more than 6 times the data (and climbing with anticipated discs space to be increased to 500 GB per disc) than HD DVDs and programmers have had to scale back games like grand theft auto b/c they must be transparent for both consoles. That's just the media offered. The processor chipset used for PS3 is a replica of NASA's master CPU. Microsoft hastened the release of the 360 and it was really just a modded out 1st gen Xbox, where the components (i.e. wifi adapter, etc.) were not included in the base cost for the console. I'd love to break down hardware features of both consoles for you, but you're fuzzy lil head might explode, so instead of being critical why not offer a compelling argument. I will admit, I do look forward to the next gen offerings on both sides Microsoft & Sony's and admit the online service is far superior for Microsoft and as many say "but you pay for it", it's a nominal fee.
Good. Maybe now people will go outside and get a life.
@jaydick: Then hope your PS3 never crashes. The 360 may RRoD, but honestly dealing with MS to get a console fixed wasn't even a quarter of the hassle of Sony.
I love how people still talk about rrod I have never had it
Its funny how PS3 fanboys on this site are trying to defend their system against Xbo360 and Wii. Remember PS3 is the only Blue-Ray player (I.e. double the value) YET it is least popular of the 3. Why? Because it has the worst library of games. Pretty much all the good games are shooters or mindless hack or slashers. PS3 has been complete failure up until this point. Think about in another 2 years we will probably have the next generation systems available. PS3 has available for 4 or 5 years already and has not made a splah. You fanboys need to get over it.
I love how people are trying to pep up the 360 but remember the millions of people who had to wait 2 weeks to get back their x box after the red ring! At least Sony is fixing all of this in 24 hours. So next time go PS3 and use the 360 for a step stool to the big boy toilet, ok kiddies.
XBL (Xbox Live for the newbies) is NOT a console. Xbox Live has been around since BEFORE the 360 (Original Xbox owners, anyone??). In the 5 years I've had Xbox live, MS hasn't had an outage/online experience like this. So, (sorry to gloat), but PS3 owners can shut it right there. You pay for XBL, but you also get RELIABLE service.
I own a PS3 (I love it honestly) but its online capabilities will never match Microsoft's XBL. The PS3 Console may be better, but...XBL pwns the PS3 Network. Just hope Sony gets all their network issues fixed before FFXIII hits next Tuesday!
IF WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THE FIX I WILL TAKE LEGAL MATTERS AGAINS SONY BECAUSE I PAID 600$ DOLLARS I DONT HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING ELSE SO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOUR GOING TO DO SONY BECAUSE I THINK MANY WE AGREE WITH ME
sony better fix this fast! i need modern warfare 2
You all realize that this isn't an issue with PSN, right? This is an issue with the hardware we all paid $600 for a couple of years ago.
Think about that. $600. Red rings or not, PS3 owners paid more for their console that can't even get a date correct. Be mad at Sony, not at Xbox people...though they have every reason to laugh right now.
I'm happy all of these CNN peeps get to see the childish Xbox/PS3 flaming that happens on gaming sites every day too. Way to represent, people. No wonder they're calling us all nerds. This is why gaming will never be taken seriously by the mainstream.
I guess I just lost all my PES 2010 trophies by trying to play it before reading this...
Do hope I'm wrong!
Mine doesn't work...tried to load up Dragon Age Origins last night and it gave me THE error, and I never play online (just offline). I then deleted the game data and saves (not that attached to them), then tried to reload the game but then got the same error. Fail.
I think the problem will fix itself because I doubt that an answer will be done in 24 hrs (why would Sony give themselves a deadline instead of right now?). If it doesn't work in 24 hrs, they better send me a free shipping label for a slim one. Better start looking for my proof of purchase. Hmmmm.
Funny, it's like SONY Y2K, but this actually happened. : )
Yes Craig,it affects anyone with the so called "OLDER" or "Fat" PS3's.
Meaning anywhere from the 20gig to the 80 gig systems to my understanding.
so if we are not suppose to use the ps3 how we going to know when its fixed ???
i had the error code & also noticed i didnt have any trophies for modern warefare 2.
am also wondering are we covered if this damages the console seen as though its worldwide......
lol glad i have the ps3 slim. dont have to worry as much. just hoping that they get it fixed soon so i can play with everyone else on some of these great games online
From Jon – "FYI for Ralph in Oregon City: 2010 is not divisible by 100. Everything you posted was irrelevant and based on your own lack of mathematical comprehension"
Actually Jon, everything I said is 100% correct. A year is a leap year if it is evenly divisible by 4 or 400, i.e. has no remainder. However, if a year is evenly divisible by 4 and 100, but not 400 – then it is not a leap year. so even though as you state 2010 is not evenly divisible by 100 (wow, you're so clever to figure that out), neither is it by 4 (=502.5) or 400 (=5.025), so it is definitely not a leap year.
The simplicity of this concept is why people are a little miffed that such a thing could hose up millions of systems worldwide. Sony can do better than this (using RTC devices with known bugs according to latest browsing). They are just going to let it blow over until tomorrow, then claimed they fixed it. Then what happens in 2014!
MWHAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! Console gamers, nuf said.
Get a Gamer PC and play Battlefield Bad Co. 2
So my fiancee's PS3 has been down for a while, it started acting up last night. You pay $60 for a game and you can't even go online. So sad that you can't even call Sony it says that your call can't be answered at this time and to call back later. You pay $400 for a system that doesn't work, we are in a recession and $400 is a lot of money. We will be buying an XBOX next time...
It's Skynet! I TOLD YOU ALL! YOU DIDN'T BELIEVE ME!
If you never experienced the YLOD this is how it feels. Feels like u lost apart of your live which is sad and pathetic.
You can play offline, you just have to create a new user on the ps3
well ill take the circumstances considering i have 3 paper weights in the 360 and hey rotten microsoft was down for a week..i was there..bought my ps3 over a year ago and this is the first big deal since i had it..eh not bad lets just hope they can prevent this or something serious again...i think sony is doing a great job!!! keep it up guys!!!
lol its funny the amount of people RAGINNNNNNNNNN about this.... Even funnier is people saying that they should get of the couch and go out or read a book but these are the people who are currently on there laptop, netbook or pc .... I dont know about you's but I got to be sitting down while am typing or reading also for the xbox people ..... so what our systems down wowwww like most people have said your system that you's paid for was down for a week or 2 and again YOUS PAID FOR IT!!! and the red ring of death enough said
One little glittch on the PS3 and haters are jumping all over it. These people are ridiculos. it's one little problem, that they'll be able to fix. If you're stupid enough to ignore all the flaws that XBOX had and decide to switch, it's your call. But everyone knows about the red ring of death and xbox live being down and the whole 9 yards.
Now i know why the 360 does not have an internal clock. I always thought it was stupid that they didnt ,but know i know it was the smart thing to do.
@ dale , who says "Good Golly Ms Molly, PS3 on-line down? This give you people time to get a discover there is a real world outside your door, read a book, go shop, and most import of all, get outside and get some exercise."
Yeah, um, you might not want to encourage those of us going through MAG and Modern Warfare withdrawals not to go out into the real world... a lot of itchy trigger fingers out there with no place to vent... !
I'd have to say, xbox live has gone down for up to a week in the past, 24 hours is really nothing, I have the newer console PLAYSTATION 3 and have no problemo, " MarkC 916 " if anyone wants to play some MODERN WARFARE 2 add me!!!! Ill see you in my TV!!!!
This better not be a publicity stunt to make us buy the new PS3 Slim platform. If so, they should be ashamed of themselves for causing such unjustified inconvenience to their loyal customers. They need to come up with some compensation for putting us through this situation.
I have both, PS3, and X Box 360, Something about PS3 is the best. While the system is down, we all take hits from x-box players and wanna beeeesss. Its ok, because its free, we dont need to buy microsoft points for a new accounts or anything like that....When your ready to play with the best players, who dont hacck, use mod controllers, and cheat, join the Play Station Gang. We would be glad to have ya on the winning team
i was one of the ones affected. when i downloaded an update for modern warfare 2 last night in hopes that it would work, but when i looked at the info of the download, it was said 1999.... not 2010. I was just trying to play split screen and couldn't.
All of my data has gone but why?
I have 2 XBOX 360 and I have one use for them; to keep open my door they have the red light blinking, got fix 2 times I don't waste more money on the peace of junk. My PS3 is not working now but I still have hope the all this situation will be over soon. For the XBOX fans how many XBOX you bougth in the last year because it broke? I still have one PS3 and it worth every penny. I have 2 XBOX and is a waist of money and time. So think. Microsoft had a problem a couple of month ago and they fix it. Now the we have a problem you came like dummies saying thats why you need to buy a XBOX, XBOX are the best, etc. To tell you the truth everything the is made by a person or machine have a % chance to fail in anyway, its not perfect thats all.
360 baby!! online does have its issues on 360 but i have never ever not been able to play online or offlline. when 360 has problems the isolate the problem and you can still play online. i almost bought a ps3 last week just because of the game "dantes inferno" till i saw 360 had it too.. glad i stuck with my trusty 360.. proven once proven twice..
ps3 owners ill be leaved up on battlefield and know all the camping places b4 you guys can even connect.. hahaha life is good!!
360 4 life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh one more note today is march 1st
just incase your console says different! hahahahaah
Hey Dale, the ignorant person who said " March 1st, 2010 12:37 pm ET
Good Golly Ms Molly, PS3 on-line down? This give you people time to get a discover there is a real world outside your door, read a book, go shop, and most import of all, get outside and get some exercise."
Lets see your six pack abs....usually people who sit at a computer and make replies to replies regarding a subject they have no interest in are built like greek gods apparently....you are probably a 40yr old virgin typing on your mom's tandy.
I use my PS3 at night, after I get home from work, play with my daughter, spend time with the wife, and go to the gym.
Good day sir.
Everyone needs to take a deep breath. It's a FREE service! It'll be down for a day. Find something else to do :)
Oh, and every person that says they're going to switch to Xbox360 because of this should back up the talk and just do it. Enjoy paying for online gaming and sending your unit in every couple of months for hardware issues :)
Well its only a small bug that will be fixed ! Unlike my Xbox 360 that has been back to Mircosoft 4 times with the Red Ring Of Death !!
For all you people saying "Now you can go outsied and get some air/excercise" Please Dont. I Game with the best of them, im married with a child and in the military. the reason why playstation users are upset is the same as if your $600 dollar TV crapped out on you,
Now I know why I was only fighting 4 noobs on Battlefield 1943! The seasoned veterans must have been locked out.
Yeah everytime i logged on i would play a game online for ten mintues then it would say You have been signed out of PlayStation Network (8001050F)”. It never did this to me before.
i have a 160gb ps3 the fat model and it has not failed,some of the older models have not failed as well.and there is reports that the new ps3 slims have failed as well i think this is a major hardware failure and its affecting random ps3's.the playstation.com forum will give all a heads up to whats going on.i smell a recall,cause people are opening their ps3 and unplugging the internal battery an plugging it back and it works but this also voids the warranty
Eh, no matter what your opinion is on Sony & Microsoft, I think we can all agree that this is an inconvenience if you own the older PS3. Darn You, Sony!!
What is wrong with you people?
BOTH THE XBOX 360 AND THE PS3 HAVE HAD FAILURES.
So why is it that when an issue hits the PS3, the Xbox fans go nuts? You initially had a 40% failure rate. You have had instances of losing your XBL for a week straight. Your system is not this flawless thing that you suddenly seem to think it is! Chill out!
I have a PS3. My brother has an Xbox 360. Both failed within a week of each other. It happens. Luckily this can't affect my newer Slim :)
At least my Wii is still going strong.
XBOX is and will always be the best and most reliable console. Microsoft may have its issues with red ring but this was a less for-see-able issue which they took care of in a timely manner. This is an epic fail on sonys behalf. They should have designed the software running PS3 with many work arounds for quick issue resolution. OOOOOPS
And this is the best "CNN has asked Sony representatives for updates. We’ll let you know as soon as we hear from them."
Looks like Sony just made their competitors shine!
Hm, games are being made for the XBox and being ported over to the PS3 and look worse for wear? Fail for PS3. And I find it amusing that the best thing the PS3 fanboys can come up with is the red ring of death.
For the record the RROD is usually taken care off at no charge to the user (warranty) and I've never had to go longer than four days without my 360.
At least with XBox live down I can still play offline. ;)
HOWEVER: You are not paying for PSN, so quit whining if it is down.
AND Ultimately: Both Microsoft and Sony choose the cheapest parts available to keep pricing and loses down. This does *not* make one system superior to the other. MS choose cheap soder, Sony choose cheap off the shelf boards. Same difference.
Live with it.
For those claiming xbox is better.
You should know that HD doesn't exist anymore, so your console is already obsolete.
Not to mention you have to pay at least $30 just to play online for a month, while PSN is FREEEEE, I repeat FREEE!
PS3 has a BLU RAY PLAYER, which means true high def (If own HD TV)
Someone tell me how many movie companies make movies in HD?
Oh, and PSN is known as a "adult crowd" so for all you kids out there that don't know any better, please stick to your deadbox and RROD.
I sure hope I didn't lose all my AC2 trophies.
They're gone from my Trophy list...
Quit telling us to "go outside" or "get a life".
We are this way because we want to be this way.
Now go back to your "real life" and leave us alone.
I have a 160 GB Uncharted edition, After everyone was down last night ( my brother being one) I was still able to get on no problem. If my system wasn't affected last night hours like maybe 6 hours after my brother in the same timezone, should I be OK to use tonight ?
HAHAHA EPIC FAIL!
This sucks. My ps3, my boyfriends and also my friends ps3's that were bought 2 years ago have the problem yet my brothers ps3, which is the bigger ps3 and not a slim, was bought May 2009 and his connects to ps3 network fine. So it isnt just the slims that are ok. Hope my ps3 isnt effected in the long term otherwise I will be complaining big time to Sony!!!!! Think some form of compensation should be offered, especially as normal non-online games like Assassins Creed 2 cant be played either!! So my ps3, at the moment, is really nothing more than a black box with funky blue and green lights on sitting in my room just laughing at me for not being able to play on it. Thanks Sony, you know how to make a girl feel special lol :D Also my brother is rubbing it in by updating me on what level he is playing on COD Modern Warfare 2, just because he can and I cant lol so SORT IT OUT :D
That's a major bummer.
But what I don't understand is why an offline game like Heavy Rain doesn't work because a user can't connect to PSN? I could understand
an online only game like Socom: Confrontation or MAG not working because they are multiplayer only, but Heavy Rain is not. It seems like it's a big flaw in the design of Sony's games if not being able to sign in and update trophies would cause a game to not play.
I remember when there was an Xbox Live outage a year or so back, but you could still play your games.lol I've had a similar issue playing on Xbox Live Arcade, but that's because I transferred my purchases (I have to be signed in to play them thanks to DRM) but never with a retail game.
Anyway, hopefully they'll have the issue fixed ASAP.
i would rather not play games and wait for psn to right itself then go dig my xbox 360 out of my closet dust it off and go buy batteries for the controllers.....
i cant believe some of you console noobs are still putting these 2 systems in the same catagory, ps2 is more of an accurate battle for xbox360 than ps3 is at this point....
i mean i guess xbox is ok if you dont want blueray and you think playing half the city on GTA 4 is cool....
wow, i thought it was just me.....i have called all my friends and they all have the same problem. Hurry and fix it sony, we are all depending on you
Could be worse. I was weeks without my Xbox cause they use faulty hardware. I'm on my 4th Xbox and I hardly use the thing. My PS3 is my primary system so I hope this gets resolved soon.
come on sony time for another update. what have you found and how are you working to fix this issure?
For anyone complaining and trying to bring xbox into the fold at least playstation doesn't charge a fee to play online. And if you can't wait for 24 hours for the problem to get fixed you seriously need to get a life....
Get an xbox.... how about get a LIFE... it's a GAME... it'll get fixed... oh the misery of not being able to go online for 24 hours.... you people are pathetic!
I dont understand how it can be an internal clock problem if everyone started to be effected before it even turned 03/01/2010. Shouldn't it have started the error at midnight for each time zone? Plus how is it that you can surf the internet and not log on to the PSN? That sounds to me like a PSN problem...not a problem with the date.
i just bought my PS3 like a month ago and I was about to have a freak out! Good thing its not just me and its worldwide cuz i was about to bust some heads open at my local gamestop!
My son's X-box also died two weeks ago (red ring)...
X-Box return shipping costs + $50 online account = Frustration.
PS3 + network off line for a night = I'll somehow deal with it.
I love the people that say they'll be buying an Xbox 360 next time. Do they not remember the over 50% failure rate on MSFT's machine? People had to physically send their consoles back to MSFT and wait over a week for them to be returned(if they were lucky). Not to mention the entire 2 week period that Xbox Live was down last Christmas. Sony should be able to solve this with a simple firmware update.
I will still be playing my PS3 when you are playing your X-Box5.
Good! You gamers need a little break. I'm no Luddite old-timer and I love my Blackberry as much as the next guy, but kids nowaday need to unplug too!
At least it had no effect on my Atari 800. whew,,,dodged another bullet.
This issue is serious enough to produce inconvenience but in my opinion nothing in contrast to the frequent connection issues experienced at a rate of 1issue every 2-5min over Xbox LIVE, specifically with Modern Warfare 2. That is a substantial number of connection issues over a 3 month period not to mention the myriad of additional issues such as modding, hacking glitching, etc. MY GOD! I have never experienced such poor online gaming quality in my 5 years of rather serious gaming! The likely reason: Microsoft being a complete failure yet again! *Immediately thinks of Vista* I sincerely regret purchasing a 3-month prepaid card.
all I know is that I better be able to play MLB 10 the show tomorrow
Has Sony provided an ETA? And on another note, we are all gamers, so do we really have to find a way to differentiate and discriminate in all aspects of life? GEEESH! Xbox or PS3, the point is we all have the same hobby and who knows? Maybe tomorrow, CNN's headline will read 'Avid PS3 gamer cures cancer while PS Network is down'....haha
>@asdf: this has nothing to do with sony and DRM. so stop whining about stock prices and DRM
Yes you are correct Sony's DRM is way to advance to be causing problems corrupting users paid for and owned DLC and video purchases. The clock issue is one thing and is probably a third partys fault (though customers love hearing the supplier blame game) but the PS3 not allowing even offline games to play due to the clock error is Sonys DRM fault. DRM is setup to basically crap the bed and not allow anything by default unless everything is perfect in its world view. What is most amazing to me about this whole fiasco is just how poor Sony's QA team is. How the hell can an issue like catch Sony off guard (not that hard with expensive hardware to test this issue far in advance). Unless of course Sony knew this was coming but if that is the case then instead of their QA team it was their PR team responsible for the EPIC FAIL!
Wow, I just read all this and realized I dont care if it's out or not. It's just a video game. Anyone want to buy a PS3?
thanks 4 the info.
XBox owners = micro & soft
I don't think there was this much controversy when our NES would flash repeatedly. Maybe Sony can just blow on their network servers and fix the issue like the old NES cartridges...
OK well, so its down for 24hrs...even when its up all I and my other online friends get timed out all the time, getting signed out of the PSN network. I have 3 PS3's in my home and ended up having to get two routers and still...getting signed out all the time, but I hear constantly from other online users this is a constant problem so not sure which is causing the problem. I hear it happens to others all the time...people saying PSN is not capable of handling all the users on it...who knows..
anyway what the hell is up with map pack 4...is the crap comin out or not?
Looks like Sony has been hanging out with Toyota. Maybe then can send us some sushi.
I can't believe how many people are bagging on sony. This is the first time PS3 has been in the news for negative terms since the PS3 release. PS3 or Xbox everyone has there preference, I personally love the PS3 but that's just me. I've owned both and after the Red Ring of Death occured twice I was over it. BTW does anyone want some HD DVD's because that was an EPOCH FAIL
If you pop your cover off, unplug the battery clock on the underside n wait a minute or two. Then plug it back in and waalaa... it works again. Just make sure to be extra sneaky n get your warranty seal off without damaging it n you can put it right back when you're done.
I went to get on my uncharted and found out psn was down and just walked away, cried, ate a gallon of ice cream and threw up onto the floor
I've stuck with Sony through the years, but being locked out like this made me go out and by an xbox 360 today. I've considered it, but this failure by Sony pushed me from thinking to doing.
I honestly don't know which one is the best, but I do know which one works right now, so Sony lost a customer. You have to think there are more people out there doing or contemplating the same thing.
7pm est and my ps3 has just started to work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm back on, for anyone that cares
you got that right. I need me some MW2. Good luck sony!!! I'm a rootin for ya.
All you need to do:
1. Turn PS3 off and turn it back on
2. Disable Internet connection
3. Manually set date and time
4. Enable Internet connection
Now you can PLAY!
I'm playing COD-MW2 just fine....
Oops... my bad.. I have a PC...
People get over it, its not like this problem is breaking ps3's, its just down temporarily unlike the 360s rrod. This problem will be fixed within a few days, if not tonight, where as you still have 360s rroding today(that cannot be fixed). Nuff said.
To all of you that say "get out and go outside," and things like "stop whining." You clearly don't mind having a large corporation doing what they want and charging what they want for a device that obviously has issues. I actually have had to replace my PS3 because of their crappy hardware overheating. Yeah, guess what? Look it up, happens to all of them eventually. It dies, with a red flashing light. Oh, and it locks whatever disc is on there too.
What else? Oh yeah, because of an internal clock I can't play a game that I payed $60.00 for, online OR offline! Offline! Really! what stupid programmer requires a trophy sync to play a game OFFLINE!
You people wouldn't be too happy to discover that your cell phone suddenly didn't work because of a software error. Why? because you payed money for it, that's why. You payed for a service and when you don't receive it your supposed to be angry.
I would like to know what compensation I am going to get. If none is offered, I would suggest filing a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission.
I'm sure a class action suit with some 30 million users involved might grab the attention of Sony. Maybe they might actually test their product before charging $500.00 for it (which is what I payed.)
I found an easy work around for those of you who, like me, cant wait for a fix. Set your system clock to the next leap year date 2.29.2012 and you should be able to log in normally. Playing MW2 now. If this has already been posted above, I am sorry.
The World is coming to an end!!
I thought it was only my system that was affected. I lost trophies and the ability to play on or offline. I even re-formatted my hard drive. How could have this happend?
24 hours is just too long for people who plays on their day off like me. I just hope that this is a software problem. I rarely play or go online so they also better think of something to adddress clients like me.
And worse, i hope they'll be able to fix or replace all the consoles that were affected if this is not a simple glitch!
As expected, the clock went to 3/1 and this issue was resolved.
PS3... IT ONLY DOES.... Games, Bluray, Online, Self-Resuscitation, EVERYTHING.
My PS3 network is back up and working woohoo. Thanks Sony.
i just went in and manaually changed my date and it appears i Heavy Rain is installing.
And is now running. 630 central
will check online, but at least i am playing off line if nothing else
disregard last, apparently a real fix was implemented at the same time I was trying the above work around. My bubble has been burst.
Lol exactly, Sony has already fixed the problem within a days time.
back up for me!
sony sure as heck knew that this issue would be coming again. it has happened a couple years ago, same date. No fix. Only thing they say is wait 24 hours, and hopefully the system will fix itself. They belive it to be the "Leap Year Bug". What if not, will Sony have the biggest call back in electronic history? Will they compensate their users, especially those of which bought a PS3 and only have MW2, or MAG, which by the way is only online. Will they be compensating the users who have reneted one of their titles from such places like "Blokbuster". They do not respond because they have no clue as to what to do. I paid good money to buy my game system, games like Assasin's Creed 2, and MW2. My nephew, his cousin, brother-in-law, and my brother all have PS3s and play MW2 every night. This is some BS from Sony. I seen 2 official statements from Sony, I even created a "Twitter" account last night so I can "follow" them on this issue. 2 statements in 2 days... Guess that what they think about their customers. Only reason I got a PS3 was for FFXIII, but guess what, its coming out for Xbox... Guess that's what I need to get.
maybe if the streets got safe my kids and i can come out a play a game of ball but till then ps3 4 me we can run fly drive or just chat we can do alot of stuff that u can't do in life .
This is the first major problem I've had with my PS3 since I bought it in early 2007. The only other issue was on occation my controler wouldn't synk with the PS3 and had to be re-booted several times to synk. That hasn't happened in over a year and was more of a nuisance than a problem.
Concidering that the Playstation Network has allways been free, one major malfunction in three years ain't bad. Just as long as they have it up and running for BattleField Bad Co.'s release on March 2nd!
i recieved the messages both on and offline. i made a new account with no trophies. it allowed me to loginto network and play. then i reset my playstation and it allowed all of my accounts to log on with no loss of gamedata. my system clock now reads for 2/28. when the msges occurred it read 2/14/00.
It's better than my 3 rrod'd 360's.
I have school to focus on this week anyway so it's not that much of n inconvenience.
its up now if u guys want to play it
I'm having the same problem with my PS3 maybe I should get the Xbox
oh well wasn't down too long
we are (the ps3 users) all back online now
ty Sony for fixing it swiftly *unlike how microcrap works*
mine works now!!! kudos to the ps3 team on handling this matter promptly. Glad i did not have to send it off for 4 weeks while they fixed the rrod, (clearing throat) xbox
OMG, I was thinking my system was messing up..I tried calling best buy, walmart , target etc. and they are all out of systems. I was about to run out and buy another one. Im so glad it isnt just me having this problem. Hope it comes back up soon!!!!!!!!!!!
PS3 Seems to be working once again. Some believe that it's due to the internal clock going past 0 GMT. What ever it was, it's gone and working once again. I am pleased to say that the only issues i will have with my PS3 in the next few days is it interfering with my wife's tv shows...lol
Keep in mind that PSN SONY has not put out anything official.
My son is an XBOX fan....I remember when his was down for a few days.....Please this is nothing. Besides, for all u Xbox fans. Urs was down for a week and yet u pay. Ours is down so far 24 hours and its FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We still get to play MWF2 one of my favorites....FOR FREEEEEEE ...
My fiancee just turned his back on and it works....
Jumping ship, if you think the xbox has been flawless, you are sadly mistaken.
xbox live was just down in the middle of February for a full day for "server issues".
kylan im with you man this stupid as hell i wanna play modern warfar 2
Hey (Jumping Ship)... not everyone can afford to just purchase a Xbox 360 on a whim. Also the problem was already fixed by the time you posted your comment. Have fun with your newly purchased paperweight rich boy!
Hey Jerry I want some sushi LOL . Everyone just relax. Red Ring on System Clock. Just go see your doctor.
kinda creepy how it changed to the date of the supposed date of "Y2K" lol
@ jumping ship
u wasted $$$ money on an xbox because psn is back up and running
for fat ps3's
Those of you who jumped ship,... go back and try to run your PS3 and log-in to PSN, and see what happens. Let me know if it was worth it to cry wolf on Sony.
This bug almost wiped out all my Resistance 2 trophies. But I finally got them back, talk about a frustrating issue.
jeez ... after the network comes back and all appears good again, the blue ray drive fails? not a single blue ray disc will play now!!
Is it back up yet?
Well this little "stint" by Sony has given me the greatest excuse to use my 2year warranty from Best Buy and return my Fatty PS3....unfortunately my Best Buy was out of PS3 Slims so I got credited the full $499.00 + tax I paid for my PS3 two years ago...lol so I used it go get a much needed Windows 7 Notebook for school...thanks Sony =D!!! Xbox 360 4 life!!!
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Phew, thank you. I thought my PS3 was done. I went looking for a solution and I saw a lot of posters saying my PS3 was bad. Screw those who tried to start drama and good news to those of us that get our OG 60G PS3 working again.
hey, Jumping ship, youre a doofus. A couple hours out of service and you came to the conclusion it was over for the ps3? Guess what? youre in for a treat! yesterday my xbox died for the freakin 3rd time. yours will also.
Ive owned ps3 forever and not one thing bad ever happened to it. ps3 doesnt need you man. go get nickel and dimed by the xbox. go be the impatient sucker u r. And trust me, believe me, you will be out of service soon enough for daaayyyys. waiting for a refurished xbox with a hard to read serial number.
We are up and running!!!
Best part is your post here went up over an hour AFTER PSN was back up. If you really aren't just a MS fanboy, how're you going to handle the downtime of Live or the downtime when you RROD?
A commenter named dd pinpointed the fix above
All you have to do is manually set the time and date in Settings. It will work then.
Wow, one day without PSN and everyone acts like the world has come to a end. Really get a life people, enjoy the outdoors! Is this really what are society has come to?! A bunch of fat blobs sitting in front of a TV all day?
Sony did not resolve this issue; they simply waited for the date to change.
The fact resolution occurred with out the impacted PS3’s receiving an update of any kind and that the issue was resolved when the GMT clock turned over to March 2, 2010, supports the theory that Sony took a path of inaction rather than resolution.
I find it completely unacceptable they allowed most of their customer base to endure this outage. Sony waited this out rather than take action to resolve the issue. I believe Sony was aware this would be a problem and had a plan of not addressing it. Sony should be held accountable for allowing a known defect to manifest itself in a 24 hour outage for millions of their loyal customers.
Hey Jumping Ship, ever hear of the Red Ring of Death?
This isn't a *DRM problem*, but a software/calendar problem. The OS calendar software wants to make March 1st the 29th of February, which happens in leap years. Subsequent getDate() calls fail by the ingame / other software modules. DRM may be evil, but it didn't have anything to do with this problem.
Wow, I never would have known about this 'issue' had I not read this article. I guess it really shows how often I actually use my PS3 for something other than Blu-rays.
Xbox Live, however, was working like a champ.
Not buying Sony's story. They got hacked. Not big on consperacy theroies but there covering up the fact there PS3's are hackable. Bad for bussiness with all the upcoming projects and games coming out this year.
Idiots this has nothing to PSN. They are masking PSN with the problem because its FREE.
Oh My GOD! i've read most of these posts, and some of you people are acting as if your lives have just been shattered... There is this giant flaming ball outside your window. It's called "the sun". Get some. I have 2 ps3's in my home, and neither of them worked correctly yesterday. So I found something else to do and didn't give it another care. You guys need to get off your couch and maybe read a book or get a tan or something. PS3 down for one day is not the end of the world.
Your an idiot if you went out an bought a xbox because of this. The problem was fixed in less than 24 hours.
Could have been worse, if it was an Xbox, could have gotten the red light!! LMAO
Well at least the Playstation 3 works fine now, if it were an Xbox, it would have died and Microsoft would have said said "TOO BAD!!"
Hey "Jumping Ship", let us all know how that goes for you. After one small glitch that was less than a 24 hour time period, its amazing how many people actually think life is over. Dude I would hate to be your GF or wife, do you give up on them too?
after reading all of the entries, i can see just how many bored individuals there are in the world. stop griping and do something other than playing silly games! wow
PLAYSTATION ROCKS!!! So the programers didn't get it right, no big deal. My PS# still turned on, not like the ring of death on that other system. Just played some Drakes Fortune offline, then back to online. Great job getting this fixed ASAP Sony. Time for some MLB The SHOW!!
Why all the fuss??? So there was a glitch in older models, which Sony has evidently fixed in the slim versions. What's the big deal? My system went down sunday night and at exactly 7pm yesterday when GMT went to March 2nd, everything was fine again. You can't wait 24hrs to play MW2? Were you sitting there hating your life because you had to find enjoyment in a laptop, television, book or your girlfriend whose about to leave you for being a sad sad man????
LOL....ROTFLMAO.....don't all you conspiracy and Xbox people feel stupid?!?! ASDF you the biggest one!! Someone in the thread told everyone how to fix it and I went home and did just that BEFORE the fix came in!! I had so much time to kill yesterday i read 90% of this blog and shared it with my coworker who BTW has Xbox and PS3 and he was laughing his behind off!! "oh my God no PS3 what am i going to do????" Oh wait I'll go hit the gym go home watch a little TV might even bake a cake. But to read how you guys reacted to a lil OS glitch the way you did shows who's and what is running our lives!!!
Rachel...... my kids also do not play until the weekend...if this would of lasted till then.....I become their entertainment!! But I'm glad that i'm not the only parent that has a good set of household rules!!!
Thank god it's solved. Now I can put my xbox away and enjoy MW2 on a real console.
you gamers really oughta get a grip on the real world. People are dying in earth quakes and all you can think about are your stupid games. it's very scary that you are the next generation of adults.
This is funny. A lot of people are complaining that the PSN being down ruined their lives while Xbox fanboys believing they are gods. Personally, I own an Xbox, I think it's great, but PS3 IS where its all at. Especially with LittleBigPlanet and ModNation Racers starting a whole new trend... and God of War 3!!!... By reading even ten of these comments you can tell which console has the smart buyers.
Jumping Ship–are you serious? You don't have the patience to wait for one day for this to be fixed? Have you even looked at any of these posts which discuss the red ring of death, or the week-long hiatus of XBox live? Unbelievable!
Sad to see that all PS3 customers are bummed out because the network is down for 24 hours. Whatever will you do? How about get out of the house? I own both systems, I like 360's online and game selection and the PS3 I have for blue-ray and the graphics. It's not like you paid to use the network so calm down. 360's redisign of their dashboard was down for longer, you can still play but not online...
wow, fail, how sorry is it that you have the date wrong!!! at least the xbox problems couldnt be fixed by a 3rd grader.
I think you're all forgetting a very important factor here... The Playstation network is free and XBOX live costs money. If it's down for a few days while they fix a problem so what? At least it didn't cost you anything. What a bunch of whiners.
>the Playstation network is free and XBOX live costs money. If it's down for a few days while they fix a problem so what?
Due to the DRM being screwed up you also couldn't play many recent games offline (wow $60 and I only get to play the game when Sony thinks I should be able to, what a business model) as well as their was some worry even with ones you could play the PS3 would corrupt the save/trophy data. Being only one day it was not that big of deal but it sure did expose some glaring problems with Sonys biz model (lol Sony not likely to ever have a high ROI on the PS3 even with the draconian drm). It also exposed yet another example of how Japan has been relying on its past quality image for far too long to jack up profit margins and corner cutting is starting to burn them in many industries.
asdf fails to remember: It's not the DRM.
I don't know what people's problems are.. it was down for like one day and they are pissed because they can't go and kill people online? If you were loyal to playstation you would have waited a day! wow. go outside and run around with some friends or something. & xbox fans shouldn't be laughing at this, this was a DAY not a WEEK.
surprise....surprise,lol.I own both systems and both have failed me at some point or another.It's been 5 yrs since this generation of consoles has been released.The quality is STILL sub-par on both systems!It's getting old microsoft,it's getting old sony.For once manufacture a product that works as advertised,or at the very least you could stand behind your malfunctioning pieces of junk.I honestly can't comprehend how sony and microsoft have gotten away with this for SOOOO LONG.It's unbelievable! I'd love to have a job that requires me to under perform and still make millions.Sony......Microsoft,are you hiring?
It was only 24 hours. Humans (especially in North America) have become the biggest bunch of "cry babies" ever. If you can't live without your videogames for one day then you need to seek help. I'm a gamer and I always will be but if I have to go a day or two without then I do something else, something outside!
Help stop the spread of rickets in gamers: eat well, get exercise, go outside! :)
it was down for 1 DAY. thats no big deal. get a life, go outside or something. or even better TALK TO A GIRL OR SOMETHING beside over playstation network.
cry about it next time
Don't you guy think your'e making a big deal out of this.....I am an avid 360 player and i Have had the ring of death twice... To say the least all of these companies have some type of problem even apple.. Sony handled it well when it comes to how long the problem ensued.
I can't believe so many people were complaining for one night of no online gaming, which is free by the way. To think that our society has so many people who people who are that completely addicted to video games. Go outside people and get a little exercise or something.
Gees! The Console Gamers really don't get it do they! All of them have been duped into machines that cost them too much money for a SINGLE PURPOSE!
I have an idea. Dump the consoles and learn how to build PC Gaming Machines!
Oh yeah I forgot, Single purpose machines for single minded people!
Yep, that about sums it up.
Thanks but no thanks on the whole console debate. I'll just stick with my PC and continue to stomp the consoles into the ground!
See ya on the Battlefield!
I am passionate about many things: tech, green and being healthy through alternative measures. I think it is sad that while people are starving, people who once contributed to the economy are now homeless and there is a war raging that the people are selfish enough to get angry over a 24 hour outage. I understand passions, but they must be in balance. Passion was meant to be shared and to enhance the world, not drive it into a self-centered focus where the result is a downward spiral into isolation. That isn't healthy for anyone. The world is a much bigger place than a video game and deserves attention.
You do not think XBOX also has its fair share of problems? LIFE WILL GO ON if your Playstation is Temp. Unusable, really, get a life! XBOX has its crashes also! Do you seriously have nothing better to do in your life? The Playstation Fails and your LIFE is coming to an end? This is really really sad! Trust me, there are more important things in this world to complain about then your PLAYSTATION Not working! You try building a CONSOLE, see if YOU can do better!
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Playstation games are very good specially those racing games like Need For Speed-.,
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Really Sony?! how long will the network be down this time i understand rumors have spread over the credit info guy. but really get him back, hack him back close the back-doors put up a few firewalls and let us back on!!!!!!!!! we need our "Dose" of online time i bet i speak for a few thousand people.... i really have no say; i am after all only 15 but i myself with my own money, am willing to buy an XBOX 360 console due to this outbreak. i don't know if it's only in NC or what but figure this stuff out....plz <:[) PROUD SUPPOTER OF Sony cmpny..
I love my ps3 and always will .Im not affected in any way .Free online !Why complain ?Yes Xbox cheaper but if u have to replace it every year it should be lol My ps3 4 years old saved a lot of money in the long run plus i can buy a game a year since FREE ONLINE .LOVE SONEY .They will make it rite and better:)
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