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March 23, 2010

Geek Out!: 'Human Torch' to play Captain America

Posted: 01:44 PM ET
Captain America?
Captain America?

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"Fantastic Four" star Chris Evans will play Captain America in not just one, but multiple movies, according toThe Hollywood Reporter. Evans played the Human Torch in the two recent "Four" movies.

As my fellow comic book geeks will know, Cap and Human Torch are two very different characters. Of all of the things wrong with the "Fantastic Four" movies (and oh, there were many), Evans' portrayal of Johnny Storm was aggressively annoying. On the other hand, the Torch is quite literally a self-involved "hot head," so I'm not sure if that performance was necessarily so far off the mark.

Captain America, on the other hand, is the very model of a stoic, noble super-soldier. Supporters of Evans taking the role point to his good work in other films and Cap doesn't appear to be a major acting challenge, per se. Of course, the script will likely be more of a determining factor in whether the movie is any good or not.

Something I would more take issue with is that Evans and some of the others who were rumored to be considered for the role -  like Mike Vogel, John Krasinski, and Channing Tatum (who was all wrong for "G.I. Joe's" Duke, but that's another story) - seem to lack the gravitas needed.

Captain America will next appear in "The Avengers" movie(s) and should be a leader/elder statesman (I mean, he did fight in World War II, frozen in ice or not). The folks behind this online movement to cast Jon Hamm seemed to have the right idea, but it appears that he was never given serious consideration.

What do you think of the decision to cast Evans? Do you think he can do Captain America justice? Share your reaction on video, or in the comments below.

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dan   March 23rd, 2010 2:00 pm ET

No. No I don't. While he was very good in his dramatic turn in "Sunshine", I just don't think he has it in him. While he was very annoying, I thought he was a good personality match for the Torch. Completely different for Cap.


Nick Marino   March 23rd, 2010 2:31 pm ET

i'm psyched for Evans as Cap. i think that people were waaaaay too snobby about the Fantastic Four movies - they were fun popcorn flicks and they did a pretty good job translating the FF personalities to the screen. i actually thought that Evans was the best of the bunch, capturing Johnny's cocky and quippy attitude with charm.

that's still a ways off from Steve Rogers' personality, but i'm interested to see Evans switch it up. and just like Jackman did with Wolverine, making him a bit more accessible for a movie audience, maybe Evans can help create a less stiff Captain America for viewers. most live-action and animated Cap performances up till now have been very rigid and lack the strong charisma that Cap has every month on the page.


kiesman   March 23rd, 2010 2:40 pm ET

Worst casting ever! Who is the director that he would want this. Doesn't give me a lot of faith in the movie.


Avrailer   March 23rd, 2010 2:59 pm ET

dumb


JOel   March 23rd, 2010 3:28 pm ET

You can't cast the same person for multiple superhero roles. Marvel fails and I will not be seeing this ridiculously lame casting because I am boycotting the movie.


David   March 23rd, 2010 5:46 pm ET

Samuel L. Jackson should be playing every superhero in every movie.

Ever.


Ron   March 23rd, 2010 5:49 pm ET

Lame. Where's the continuity. Where's the canon?
Sure, theres very little chance that the FF would cameo in any of the new Marvel movies, but I'd like to think that they do exist in the same universe, hence could not be the same person.


MisterBlue77   March 23rd, 2010 6:49 pm ET

@Ron - they could never have crossed over anyway. Several of the Marvel heroes are now owned by Marvel movie studios - Captain America, Iron Man, Avengers, Thor, and the Hulk. Some are still owned by the studios that held the rights before Marvel stood up their own studio - Fantastic Four by Fox, Spider-Man by Sony, and X-Men (unfortunately) by someone else too - I want to say Paramount but that could be wrong. Evidently Fox is going to put out a new retooled FF movie, if for nothing else than to keep the rights. Same I think with Daredevil, by whichever studio that was. So getting them all in the same movie universe is going to be a tough scrape - particularly with Spider-Man, as I don't see Sony ever letting him go.


John   March 23rd, 2010 7:19 pm ET

I always felt Matt Daimon would have worked as Kirby cap. He certainly has a big enough head to slap a big "A" on.


John   March 23rd, 2010 7:20 pm ET

I hear the Fantastic Four are being rebooted with a new cast, just like Spider-Man.


Matt   March 23rd, 2010 8:12 pm ET

I had thought Marvel had been looking for an "unknown," so why they were eyeing so many "stars" and ultimately picked one they'd seen in two of their movies escapes me. Just hope he can pull it off.

So Chris Evans has played the Human Torch and now will play Captain America. You think he might try for a Timely trifecta and play the Sub-Mariner? ;-P


CEEDEE   March 23rd, 2010 9:10 pm ET

THEY MADE A BIG MISTAKE I agree he was good as the Human Torch but to play Captain America I just don't think he can cut it NOW CHANNING TATUM on the other hand would have been an Excellent choice He has Style He has Charisma and He can act circles around Chris Evans and any of the others that went out for this roll and as for the comment that He was wrong to play Duke You are so wrong He did an Outstanding Job in that movie so you should check yourself and He would have knocked this movie out of the park just like Dear John kicked avatar's butt Thank You


Dengar   March 23rd, 2010 11:13 pm ET

Um.......what are they thinking? I like Chris Evans and all but are there no other young male actors in America that have not played other Marvel characters? I mean......um....just baffling. I guess it's better than Channing Tatum....who, in my opinion, doesn't have the acting chops to make it into a High School play.


ryu   March 24th, 2010 12:18 am ET

I'm not sure if chris evans can pull it off, but i'll be rooting for him. Anyway, I think Mark Valley (Human Target) would have made a much better Captain America.


gd94134   March 24th, 2010 3:25 am ET

Remember Disney now owns Marvel.The same people who gave us Mickey,Minnie,Goofy and Shrek.This is the new Marvel Universe,under the thumb of the Mouse.Chris Evans casting as Captain America is just the tip of the iceberg.I can't wait to see who the new Spiderman will be.It's a small world after all...it's a small small world oh joy!


Rumply   March 24th, 2010 8:10 am ET

Go Disney......

I don't like the fact that they are recasting the same actor to play two different characters... the associations between that face and human torch are just too strong.

As for personality.. well.. he IS an actor... and as much canon as we fanboys like to wave around, the truth is that there isn't a studio out there that is going to stick to canon if they can bring more people into the theater. I mean... if they can attempt to re-vamp Sherlock Holmes and Star Trek, nothing is sacred.


Famboy   March 24th, 2010 8:17 am ET

I acually agree with Nick completely, people just hate FF movies for anonby reasons, they weren't that bad...and Evans was def the best of the bunch, I think he will do ok as cap


gamEr   March 24th, 2010 9:01 am ET

I liked the torch the way he was. But captain america is about the same but he cant fly.... I think.


Mike   March 24th, 2010 3:36 pm ET

I think what's wrong with all these movies is that their roots go back 50 plus years, as such it is IMPOSSIBLE to accurately and adequately translate the character in a way that will appeal to all audiences...I offer good luck to Mr. Evans in what I hope will be a fun job but he will be mercilessly derided by devotees of the character


Don   March 24th, 2010 4:09 pm ET

Since we're recasting superheroes, how about recasting Tobey McGuire as Bruce Banner in The Avengers? It makes as much sense as this.


Bruno   March 24th, 2010 5:17 pm ET

He's a lightweight, I'd expect Captain America to be a heavyweight like Schwarzeneger, big strong and full of muscles.


JeaJames   March 24th, 2010 5:31 pm ET

Aaron Eckhart is the only suitable actor to play Captain America. Evans doesn't even fit into the role.


Farkit   March 24th, 2010 5:46 pm ET

I guess Michael Keaton wasn't available.


TheMiika   March 24th, 2010 6:10 pm ET

One word.

Stallone.


machater   March 24th, 2010 6:11 pm ET

Bad choice i agree. The only actor i can think of is the guy from Human Target. He would be great. Evan might surprise us. Who knew Robert Downey Jr. would be such a good Iron Man.


kyurah   March 24th, 2010 6:27 pm ET

the guys size has nothing to do with it, if you haven't seen actors beef up immensely for films before, then you haven't watched enough movies


GD   March 24th, 2010 9:10 pm ET

Chris Evans as Captain America? Meh.


Bruce   March 25th, 2010 11:14 am ET

People without talent should not be given such large roles. Leave it to
real actors, Chris. Take up bartending.


J.Strange   March 25th, 2010 2:15 pm ET

I don't understand why they keep selecting starts to act in multiple super hero roles...am I really supposed to believe this guy is Captain America when I just got done watching him 'flaming on' in The Fantastic Four?


Bakti   March 25th, 2010 5:15 pm ET

What Chris Evans?, Chuck Norris would be a better Cap... lol


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Gilbert   March 26th, 2010 12:36 pm ET

Mark Valley, hands down should have been Cap. America. Cap needs a more chiseled facial look.


Mike   April 14th, 2010 10:58 pm ET

I think that the fact of cast an actor who performed another hero to this movie is a big MISTAKE and it is worst when the first hero performed is from Marvel comics as well. So, DAMN, who the hell made that casting, it is an elemental mistake. What is next? Christian Bale as Superman Man of Steel? Jesus! And by the way, this Evans is a piece of junk, he is a clown. There are so many actors in this planet and they have to recycle a hero. Why don't they call the movie The Fantastic Captain or the Captain Torch? Or Better The Fifth Fantastic? This movies goes down.


Chris J   April 15th, 2010 1:51 am ET

The guy who stars in Human Target should have been cast as Captain America...he has the look and also attended West Point and served time in the Military...Evans does not have the look or any Military experience


SaintPetersburg   April 17th, 2010 10:14 am ET

i cant see Evans toning down his wise-cracking shtick to fit the Cap. He tried it in films and it has failed, his acting lost any kind of interesting quality because he keeps it superficial.

I think it should have been between Jon Hamm and Matt Damon. They kind the mature look, that been through war look. And the charisma to command somebody like Downey.

However, if Evans does pull it off, good for him. I like being surprised by actors.


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Logan   May 12th, 2010 11:28 pm ET

Well to start things off Shrek..its Dreamworks, Disney's arch nemesis. But I digress, Chris Evans did a stand up job in the mediocre FF movies. If he is going to put on tights and dispatch anymore baddies it has to be as the Torch because that's how he's ingrained into the minds of millions. Not to mention this stream of movies by marvel is epic, this will be the greatest thing in the super hero community since Adam West dawned the bat suit. Evans just doesn't display the iconic pizazz to play Cap. I just hate to see one man destroy the integrity and just outright godliness of these six movies. Bad decision Marvel. Ya let me down.😦


MarvelGeek   May 20th, 2010 1:25 pm ET

Nothing against Chris Evans but he definately should not be playing Captain America since he's already been in two Fantastic 4 movies as the Torch.( I think he did a great job portraying the hot head btw.) A more suitable Captain America would be Chris Pine, Captain Kirk from the 2009 Star Trek movie.


Andrew   May 20th, 2010 10:30 pm ET

To JOel RE: "You can't cast the same person for multiple superhero roles. Marvel fails and I will not be seeing this ridiculously lame casting because I am boycotting the movie." YOU fail. Captain America is a DC comic.


cannonball   May 20th, 2010 11:18 pm ET

If the director and writers have any sense in their heads, they obviously aren't going to give cap a personality anything remotely like the matchstick. Being a Superhero movie aside, at least the guy isn't being typecast. If he can pull of the acting, all it'll take is some bulking up, a Cap' appropriate hairstyle when he's out of the suit, and a kick ass Cap costume and it will be fine. It's up to the rest of the cast and crew to make this film a winner.

For those who are actually fans of the comics, come on... I'm both a long time comic fan and except for some extremely detail oriented illustrators, male characters drawn by the same artists generally end up having very similar looking attributes due to the artists particular style. Just pretend Captain America is being "drawn" by the same guy, lol.

and hey, this isn't the first Marvel movie to reuse an actor from a different film. Rebecca Romijn was in all three X-men movies and the Punisher. Ryan Reynolds was in Blade Trinity and Wolverine(and though it's DC, soon to be Green Lantern,) James Marsden even hopped the Marvel boat for Superman Returns, and hey, Shawn Ashmore even ended up as Jimmy Olsen.

And even with the large success of Superhero movies in recent years, it's still not easy to find an actor who's actually willing up to play one. We should be happy with the fact we're actually getting so many made at all.


Robert   May 28th, 2010 11:26 pm ET

Gerald Butler should've been the Capt.


Curious   July 4th, 2010 10:14 pm ET

What will happen when/if the Fantastic 4 eventually get involved with the Avengers?


Eric   January 15th, 2011 9:49 pm ET

I was one of the few people that actually liked the fantastic four movies and I'm pretty sure I will like the avengers movie. I just think that it was stupid for the directors to cast the same person for both roles, seeing as how the fantastic four worked hand and hand with the avengers on several occasions. I'm guessing it's safe to say that with the hole MARVEL COMIC movie era in full swing, there will never be a collaboration between the FANTASTIC FOUR and THE AVENGERS, which sucks because Reed Richards; along with his team(FANTASTIC FOUR), was a pivotal figure in the AVENGERS initiative. WHAT... A... Screw up


Eric   January 15th, 2011 10:12 pm ET

@Andrew You fail Cap. Is Marvel not DC
@"the drunken recollection" you guys are spouting off people who would never meet in the same universe......duh Indiana Jones wouldn't meet Han Solo, Cap of the enterprise would never meet professor x. I mean really what were you guys and Andrew thinking when you posted your comments?


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brandon   February 10th, 2011 1:33 am ET

in my opinion someone can not play two different heros they could have found someone much much better than this tool


corey   February 18th, 2011 12:31 am ET

he shouldnt be able to play to people from the same universe!!!! bull s@#t and there are way better people for the roll.


Dinildomar   April 26th, 2011 1:37 pm ET

Very good ... it's perfect, maybe he can do it very well, after all he is an actor, and like any actor, he should know how to incorporate the personality of super soldier. But in anyway, he needs to do something with his body to improve its performance in this film, because the original Captain America is twice more muscular then the Human Torch, evidently due to contact with the famous chemical formula known for letting him much stronger.


Joshua Blake   May 18th, 2011 7:48 pm ET

It's likely that Marvel will reboot Fantastic Four and the new cast will appear alongside The Avengers. This is along the same lines as Batman being rebooted for The Justice League, apparently.


Martha   June 12th, 2011 10:11 pm ET

such a big mistake using the same person to play the role of two VERY different super heroes. no offense to evans. just poor continuity and there are so many amazing choices out there...for instance hemsworth for the role of thor looks pretty spot on and he's rather unknown. sam worthing (avatar) or ANYBODY in the military with some acting chops would have made a better choice...is hollywood so lacking in talent that they have to regurgitate actors over and over again


Roid   July 12th, 2011 12:21 am ET

vhot a boots Arrrr-rrn-ald Warts-ee-nagor hehehe<in worst austrian accent. Or for da madames how about Van Damn <(I got Old). Or Norris for Borris- in the end its still a movie and nothing will ever compare to the imagenation comic books leave open


Branden   July 14th, 2011 2:57 am ET

I do not care if Marvel is rebooting their films, casting Chris Evans as Captain America is one of the stupidest things they have ever done. The fact that the Human Torch and Captain America are part of the Same universe and using the same actor to portray them is messed up. I am tired of Marvel doing things half ass. Do not go see this movie or the Avengers movie. Not just because the fact that Chris Evans is Captain America, but also that Edward Norton is not cast as Bruce Banner that they got a different actor as Banner. It should not matter that Joss Whedon or whatever his name is, part of The Avengers movies, if this is a continuation of how marvel is going to do things from now on under the Disney Flag then I quit. DO NOT GO AND SEE CAPTAIN AMERICA, do not get fooled or dooped into seeing this movie and give marvel more money to do stupid things like this.


Philip   July 21st, 2011 4:49 pm ET

Don't like it all. To many other actors to get the role. He's now known as the torch. What will happen if cap guest stars in a new f.f movie? Heroes always guest star in the books.


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Mike   July 22nd, 2011 7:25 pm ET

Just saw CA and I think Evans did a very good job. On another "geek" point concerning The Human Torch...the "original" Torch from the '40's makes an appearance here, too, briefly, as a display.

He's "Professor Phineas Horton's Synthetic Man" display at a carnival.

Torch plays Cap while walking past the Torch!


Rage   July 25th, 2011 5:12 am ET

What a douche bag who accepts two super hero roles WTF thats complete bullshit like this fag is deserving of the role. No is all i have to say what an arrogant fucking twat evans was good for the human torch but not for captin america i mean ben aflacks a douche but atleast he stopped at daredevil this fool should have known his place and i believe that alot of true marvel fans are as equally pissed. fuckkk


Christy   April 1st, 2012 8:39 pm ET

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Gabriel   April 29th, 2012 1:55 pm ET

The movie has been out since last year and I think Evans did a really good job at it. To be honest, I can't picture him as Johnny Storm any more


nicole   May 6th, 2012 2:44 am ET

well i really think he did an awsome job, i just watched captain america the other night (for some reason this made me want to watch the entire X-men series which i did after lol idk) and i thought it was great, he looked really cutewhen he was the skinny rogers and then when he transformedhe looked huge. Evans did a sirprisingly good job and i took him seriously in the more intense seens unlike other moviewhich i like to make fun of how awkward the actors are in certain scenes, but i didnt for a min think aboutevans he just blended into a great cap am


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