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April 8, 2010

Report: British boy racks up $1,400 tab on Farmville

Posted: 10:48 AM ET

Fake crops on Farmville - the "free" social game that's become a huge hit on Facebook - cost a British mother some real cash after her 12-year-old son racked up $1,400 in charges on the game.

The Guardian reports that the pre-teen needed only about two weeks to empty his own savings account then start using his mom's credit card.

"When I asked him why he did it he said that they had brought out 'good stuff that I wanted,' " the mother, who asked not to be named, told the newspaper.

Farmville, which last month reported having more than 75 million monthly players, is free to play. But players can spend money on extras, like virtual crops, tools and barns.

Zynga, the company behind Farmville, Mafia Wars and other popular social games, says the games are designed to appeal to a wide cross-section of players, not just the typical young, male video game crowd.

The mother said the son's bills came to 905 British pounds - the equivalent of $1,373.

The British mother, whose hometown was not listed in the story, said she doesn't blame Zynga, Facebook or her credit card company, although she tried to get the money back.

But she said she wished there was extra security to prevent such spending.

"I do think they need to shoulder some responsibility in this business and put systems in place to stop this happening again," she told The Guardian. "The fact that he was using a card in a different name should bring up some sort of security and the online secure payment filter seems to be bypassed for Facebook payments."

She said her son was unable to make mobile phone payments - because his older brother had lost credit buying a ringtone a couple of years earlier.

"We sound terribly technologically unaware don't we?" she said.

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Chase   April 12th, 2010 7:58 am ET

Here is a thought, why does your 12 year old son have all of your credit card info?


k3rm1t   April 12th, 2010 10:45 am ET

Mom needs to beat this kids @$$! Stealing credit cards? There needs to be some serious punishment dealt to this child for doing what he knew was wrong. Kill his farmville account and ground him from his computer for a couple of months at least!!


Mark   April 12th, 2010 10:52 am ET

Dwayne has a point but so does the mother. The credit card company authorised a transaction against her card from someone obviously other than the card-holder, however, Facebook permitted the transaction to proceed against it's own terms and conditions, and effectively allowed the minor to masquerade as the rightful card-holder. The Bank should legally require the retailer to refund the stolen money. Just because the theft was by someone known to the card-holder, does not imply that the retailer can profit from the theft. Provided that all goods purchased are returned in their original condition, the retailer is not out of pocket. 🙂 Farmville should make a good faith gesture and refun the cash in full, otherwise it runs the risk of showing it's hand too openly.

These games are designed to be cute and suck you in. Check them out. They are aimed at children and the child in each of us.


Ken Denny   April 12th, 2010 11:05 am ET

How's this for extra security. Don't give your kid your credit card.


grl   April 12th, 2010 11:30 am ET

I have seen this game and I have no interest and no time to play this. I can not believe adults would spend their own money in these kind of games. As for kids, they are kids and not much can be said. I would have a problem if he spends all his savings on this type of game, not to mention stealing money. I would not allow my son to have such an easy access to his savings. I will give him a credit card (or pre-pay card) with little limit as his allowance to spend. You can keep track on how much he is spending that way. If he wants more, he can do house work to earn more allowances.


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ar   April 12th, 2010 11:54 am ET

First of all, I don't think a 12 yr old can have a FB account. This kid must have lied about his age.


BrickellPrincess   April 12th, 2010 11:54 am ET

Instead of playing FarmVille and wasting my time with pointless clicking, I went to Home Depot and bought three raised garden beds and planted a butterfly garden, a sun flower bed, and a small vegetable garden.

I spent the entire weekend doing it and I feel awesome knowing that I am actually doing something productive and tangible. Quite rewarding!


Josh   April 12th, 2010 12:33 pm ET

I'm unfamiliar with the game. Is there any entrepreneurial potential that can be exploited from that investment?

In other online games, you can lay out capital for raw materials and then sell the products to other players for either real money or in-game currency that can be sold for real money.

((No, I never played Everquest or World of Warcraft. Why do you ask? ::cough::))

Just wondering if there's any possible way to teach that kid a lesson using in-game mechanics.


Kathryn Daniel   April 12th, 2010 12:55 pm ET

My first reaction to this is to want to slap this woman into next week for being a moron. Then I took a breath, and started over. This is called impulse control, and I'd love to share this concept with the rest of the planet!
Yes, there is extra security available. It's called being a responsible parent. First, teach your children to be responsible with money, as well as the difference between the real world and fantasy, and a little concept called CONSEQUENCES. Next, monitor what your child is doing on the internet. This kid had to have lied about his age to get a Facebook account. The age limit is 13.
I think the kid needs to get a life and Mom needs some parenting lessons.


andy   April 12th, 2010 1:38 pm ET

extra security = real PARENTING. Heard of it?


George   April 12th, 2010 2:27 pm ET

Business Law 101 states that a contract with a minor can be revoked at the discretion of the minor (at least US business law). Just a thought here... Nothing a good lawyer probably can't clean up right quickly.


Niss   April 12th, 2010 2:35 pm ET

For all those that are blaming FB and Zynga, it's not their fault. Kids know better and he was wrong. Had it been me, he would have to do work around the house, no computer games for three months, he would have to do 200 hours of community service, and get earn extra money by doing yard work to pay mother dear back.
As for the mother, I would be putting my purse in a safe each night I come home. And why in the hell does he have access to his savings? That is just dumb.

Farmville is meant for fun. It's not there to suck you in. The same goes for Xbox 360. Can't wait for someone to say the online games "sucks you in" to paying for the live account.


Dave   April 12th, 2010 2:46 pm ET

75 million people playng farmville?
The sad part is a lot of them are adults.
Incredible.


bloger   April 12th, 2010 4:01 pm ET

wang


Charles Centers   April 12th, 2010 5:22 pm ET

It is called lock up your credit cards and know what your kids are doing online. I am so sick and tired of parents who don't want to be parents trying to blame everything on someone else. Get off your lazy a** and watch your kids like you are suppose to do. That is like parents that think the school should be responsible for their kids behavior. News Flash! Hello. It is the parents responsibility to make sure their kids know how to behave. If they can't do it then then the state should step in and take them away and then force the parents to pay the state for raising their children. I also think bullies should be kicked out of school and forced to be home schooled if they can't behave. It is a disgrace that kids that want to learn can't because someone that doesn't care about school takes up valuable time and disrupts school.


Mothergoose   April 12th, 2010 5:50 pm ET

I guess 96% of everyone posting on here assumes that she is blaming Facebook and her creditcard company.. Get a clue and reread the article. She takes responsiblity, she blames herself, what more should she do. Maybe just maybe her intentions are to warn the rest of you that obviously can not read that she doesn't want the rest to make the same mistake.

I agree that has to be an impressive farm tho.


Ric   April 12th, 2010 6:55 pm ET

It is truly amazing how many people read the article but failed to understand it. It seemed like it was written in pretty plain English.

Moral: Hide your f-ing credit card or better yet never own one.

Moral2: Pay more attention to what your kids are doing online.

Moral3: Facebook should not be able to bypass online secure payment processes as that damned "Verified by Visa" thing may be the only thing protecting you from anyone that gets their hands on your card


PJ   April 12th, 2010 7:01 pm ET

Hey- it's never too late to have an abortion... tie yer tubes, Lady...you should NOT be reproducing...


flatulatingbuddha   April 13th, 2010 6:22 am ET

"But she said she wished there was extra security to prevent such spending."
How about teaching your kids not to steal your credit cards?

"I do think they need to shoulder some responsibility"
Yes, YOUR kids stole YOUR credit card and it's their fault?

"The fact that he was using a card in a different name should bring up some sort of security and the online secure payment filter seems to be bypassed for Facebook payments."
Since parents typically buy things for their kids...if you have the same surname, then typically it's implied...how about you simply teach your children not to touch your credit card.

"She said her son was unable to make mobile phone payments – because his older brother had lost credit buying a ringtone a couple of years earlier."
This is why you teach your children responsibility at a young age.


Jerry   April 13th, 2010 7:46 am ET

That must be one hell of a farm. Screen shots? 🙂


Oliver   April 13th, 2010 8:29 am ET

wow like that kid just said be one hell of a farm .


Lois   April 13th, 2010 9:55 am ET

Maybe I missed it, but why have to give CC info for a "free" game? I think on these things a spending limit could be entered by the parent. "No more than $10" etc. ?? Mom, the kid needs some valuable lessons to be taught. And no more computer! Farmville might be nice and suspend some of the charges? It's not like he purchased some merchandise that can't be returned. Ultimately, Mom it's on you, sadly.


1happycamper   April 13th, 2010 10:33 am ET

Here's a crazy thought, take your kids outside to run around and play.


Chrys Thorsen   April 13th, 2010 11:29 am ET

You can sure tell who the parents are in these posts. Kids are d@mned sneaky, and also very vulnerable to marketing. Besides, the mom wasn't blaming others. And, it's reasonable to ask for a few more security checks. Won't stop kids entirely, but might slow them down a bit. All you people who don't have kids are too quick to judge.


jake   April 13th, 2010 12:22 pm ET

Wow..........Maybe your son needs to get a life instead of spending enough time on a video game to rack up that much cash in the first place. And by the way the mom is just as stupid for letting the little 'blighter' as the brits would say to take the credit card in the first place.


momof2   April 13th, 2010 12:22 pm ET

Wow! A lot of people are judging this Mom as if her son went out and spent their money. Hopefully her son's adventure has given the mother some insight as to what she needs to do to teach her son about responsibility and stealing. Lesson learned. I hope all of you people are this critical of parents who allow their children to deal drugs and murder. As for me, I think this type of situation could be a learning experience for a lot of people. Instead of judging, let's look at our own parenting skills with a self-critical eye. That's what I plan on doing. Best wishes to this mother.


Andy   April 13th, 2010 12:57 pm ET

Of course the woman has only herself to blame – Facebook has a requirement that only people 13 or older are allowed. How did her 12 year old son get an account – by commiting fraud. He had to lie about his age – maybe in the UK that is acceptable. Also, if it is not his credit card – than the charges are fraudulent. In addition, he should not be able to spend money from his accoutn online if his is yougner than 13 – another fraud.

What is the mother teaching her son – it is okay to lie if Farmville is a lot of fun. This is in no way the fault of Facebook, Zynga, or Credit cards. There should be better controls in place – the mother. She should have control over what her 12 year old accesses, and also control of her credit card information. My son would never dare use my credit card – he would not have a computer or access again until he could buy his own.


Andy   April 13th, 2010 1:04 pm ET

Dwayne – your idiotic thinking is what is leading this world into a cesspool of hedonism – "A 12-year old will do what a 12-yr old wants" is the exact argument that has lead to worldwide AIDS, the financial crisis, and huge rates of teenage pregnancy. This is the argument made by lazy parents all over. I have an 11 year old – and he has very strict guidelines for PC use – always has. However, with some explanation – he came to the conclusion that he woudl not lie to get on Facebook.

I have warned him that if he buys a ringtone, uses the computer when he is not supposed to, or watches shows deemed innappropriate than he will lose his phone, computer, and tv privileges. He earned these rights by proving his responsibility at a young age, and maintaining excellence. He does slide from time to time, but then the privileges are removed.

The same works for my other children – privileges are just that – he has no right to a phone, computer, or tv. The phone is for my convenience – not his. Any misuse is addressed immediately and without mercy.

He has realized that he will have less limits when he can provide his own resources.


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purewebdev   April 13th, 2010 7:55 pm ET

Just add some parental guidance, and that should fix things up. Oh, also might want to secure credit cards a little better.


Jen   April 13th, 2010 8:08 pm ET

To all the people who are commenting about how the "mother should teach her kid this or that" – I take it you've don't have kids. I am a parent and I can tell you this-- you can reason, talk nicely, explain, teach and when that doesn't work you can scream & holler & curse until you're red in the face and it won't matter – kids will still do the same stupid things (like this) and as the parent, you'll wonder how someone so stupid could have been created by you.


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Nick   April 14th, 2010 12:04 pm ET

LMAO this is the 21 century. grade school kids have cell phones, and some reason all young kids needs there parents CC infro at some point. i say blame the kid. lol


Miz   April 14th, 2010 5:20 pm ET

Maybe this is part of the reason that Facebook has an age requirement....per Facebook pilocies website: No information from children under age 13. If you are under age 13, please do not attempt to register for Facebook or provide any personal information about yourself to us. If we learn that we have collected personal information from a child under age 13, we will delete that information as quickly as possible.

The entire page should be deleted, farm and all. Even so I'm surprised she couldn't get her money back from Zynga if the name on the account was his, it didn't match her card and they shouldn't have accepted it.


Matthew   April 15th, 2010 9:29 am ET

If a child wants to get your credit card you probably won't be able to stop them. I don't get how you think it's the mother's fault. Unless you lock your stuff up in a vault when you get home everyday your children could get your financial information. The child should be punished and I do think the mother should get her money back. She didn't make the purchases. She should submit it as a fraud claim.... TOUGH LOVE


...   April 15th, 2010 2:48 pm ET

Did these commenters even read the story?

The British mother, whose hometown was not listed in the story, said she doesn't blame Zynga, Facebook or her credit card company, although she tried to get the money back.

She's not blaming anyone but herself. She just wants something to be done to prevent it in the future. You'd be stupid financially to not try to get that money back in a young family like that. Anyone would try with laws about fraudulent use on credit cards.

I swear, the people that comment on things like this usually have the most half-baked statements.


Austen   April 15th, 2010 8:33 pm ET

It's amazing how people jump to conclusions that she's a terrible parent. Are you saying that it couldn't have been possible that the 12 year old child simply "borrowed" the card without his/her parents knowledge. I know that when I was 12, it would have been very easy for me to sneakily taken one of my parents credit cards because they left their wallets in the same places at home. As a parent, I would assume she trusts her child to a certain extent, and given today's lack of a concrete understanding of the value of money, it seems extremely plausible that a 12 year old child would not really understand the gravity of their actions until reprimanded. I think it's unfair to just blurt out that it's all the mother's fault, that she's a terrible parent, and that she got what she deserved. But then again most of the comments left seem to be the work of hair-brained idiots who view the internet as a forum for their unintellectual, verbal vomit. If you took the time to read the article, you would have noticed that the mother did not completely blame the company; And as for the comments attacking her for asking for increased security, you are some of the most ignorant people I have ever seen. It never crossed your mind that there should be some questions raised over a person attempting to buy a virtual product using a credit card with another person's name on it? I know that in my past I have run across many websites that require the names to be the same, or like companies that trade in virtual timecodes, they call the house and request information to make sure that the person attempting the purchase at least lives there. These are all measures that would keep "fraudulent" spending down.

Well this is a lengthy statement, thank goodness I don't spend more time on the message boards ripping your sorry asses apart. Go back to school and get some real world experiences, then come back and try to make jabs at the mother.


Heather Thomas   April 15th, 2010 8:42 pm ET

If I am not mistaken, there are antivirus programs out there with Parental controls where it takes a password to log in before any credit card information can be posted. Perhaps this woman should research and invest in something like this.


brad   April 16th, 2010 5:48 am ET

This woman sounds so very british. Something bad happened so rather than taking responsibility, she wants the govt to step in and do something about it. Thats how they lost the right to defend themselves as well btw.


BigTony   April 16th, 2010 8:53 am ET

"This woman sounds so very british. Something bad happened so rather than taking responsibility, she wants the govt to step in and do something about it. Thats how they lost the right to defend themselves as well btw. -Brad" brad, sounds like our welfare system and brad I think your on it, but unfortunately this mother took responsibility unlike the american's who cheat our system everyday. That is the problem with america and our outrageous spending, lets bail out everyone, because a line got drawn between class and reckless spending. Anyone can argue about anything they want on this issue, boy's fault, mother's fault, but when it comes down to it when someone receives a credit card I believe the holder has limited responsibility on purchases "exempting stolen, hacked, etc illegal card usage" and I believe my experiences with the credit system owners have liability to an extent, unfortunately us Americans this is our expertise! *cough cough bailout bailout....* You sign an agreement on these cards which didn't protect her. I'm glad the credit companies refused to give her money back, wish they did in america. She did take responsibility for it and I admire that more then anything, she paying it off!! I bet unlike half you Americans in credit card debt, lets charge and spend and spend until uncle sam bails us out.....I Say lies, look at the bailout... oh wait american's who knowingly bought items and got into debt *intelligent!*.... Lets all be hypocrites and trash this lady, whom took responsibility to pay it off! How many of you posted are still paying the computer you used off? (is it my business?) Maybe America wouldn't have such a financial, "bailout", or employment issue if more people were genuine and payed their expenses, admitted fault, and worked it off. (Yah, for you lady, pay off your unwilling charges!). Apparently if America had more people like this woman who PAYS, america wouldn't be spending all this unnecessary money. That is why when u get a credit card you should be able to afford to pay off the max limit. Apparently this lady deserves to own this card, because she is paying off an unwilling purchase... How many of you complain about your willing purchases? how many of u can pay off ur willing purchases? Apparently not too many, because i got a number i can share that says billions in bailout!


Bob   April 16th, 2010 9:51 am ET

If all of these people playing Farmville would put the same amount of time into a real farm, then we could lower the cost of food and be more healthy!


FalafelKing   April 16th, 2010 11:52 am ET

Since when does a pre-teen have access to a bank account?


TheGreatOne   April 16th, 2010 12:45 pm ET

Farmville? Playing and losing money... at Facebook? This kid must have spent hours and hours in front of a computer and have no social life whatsoever. We need legislation to limit use of social networks and internet based gaming to prevent our kids– and adults as well– from becoming robots, whose lives revolve around their computers and game consoles, same laws that are now about to be put in place in South Korea and other European countries.. In 20 years, the future of this nation will be passed on to a generation of social misfits, computer geeks and addicts and schizoid people who only have virtual friends and who have little connection to reality.


MrMaki   April 16th, 2010 7:16 pm ET

Its not the corporations fault that she does not know what is going on in her child's life. If anyone is to blame here its the parent for not keeping her child under control. People should stop trying to pass the blame and take responsibility for their actions.


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[...] (CNN)  –  Report: British boy racks up $1,400 tab on Farmville.  "Fake crops on Farmville – the "free" social game that's become a huge hit on Facebook – cost a British mother some real cash after her 12-year-old son racked up $1,400 in charges on the game. The Guardian reports that the pre-teen needed only about two weeks to empty his own savings account then start using his mom's credit card. "When I asked him why he did it he said that they had brought out 'good stuff that I wanted,' " the mother, who asked not to be named, told the newspaper. Farmville, which last month reported having more than 75 million monthly players, is free to play. But players can spend money on extras, like virtual crops, tools and barns." I suppose only in the UK would a twelve year old be considered a "pre-teen"?  In Yemen, a twelve year old would considered an "old maid".  Rumor has it the kid spent the $1,400.00 in real money on tax shelters for his "Farmville" holdings.  A valuable "life lesson" in my mind.  I think the kid has the potential to become the future CEO of Band of America. [...]


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jon   April 17th, 2010 8:07 pm ET

I bet that kids farm was freaking awesome. It better be awesome $1400 later.


Dave   April 17th, 2010 9:24 pm ET

Franko's an idiot.


Victoria   April 18th, 2010 8:14 am ET

Guys, I would like to have a look at his farm! I have been playing Farmville since last October. I just can't understand what items the boy has spent all this money on :-)))?


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Fedos   April 19th, 2010 12:38 pm ET

This is not an issue of your credit card account being compromised. Your son took your card and used it to make online purchases. Because he had the card, he was able to correctly respond to the security measures used by the credit card company and the websites. Physically protecting your card, whether from your son or a stranger, is your responsibility.


Vincent Clark   April 19th, 2010 2:03 pm ET

kids do these things, it has been happening for a long time, even before people went online to spend money.

I remember before cell phones and unlimited long distance my friend racked up an $800.00 phone bill one month $900.00 the next calling friends from camp.

I had a friend that used his mom's card to by ninja equipment he got from a ninja catalog.

Asking for tighter security on the merchants end, I recommend tighter security on your child's spending. It is easy to go into the bank and put limits on how much can be spent in a period of time. If your child is stealing your credit cards, security starts at the wallet.

Online business have done quite a bit to protect against theft and fraud with security measures they implement, they cannot nor should not be required or even asked to implement security for other people's personal household. This is like asking a casino in Vegas to be more responsible with people withdrawing from their accounts or maxing their credit cards.


Britney   April 19th, 2010 3:38 pm ET

Even at 12 the kid should know "peeping" his mom's credit card number and using it to buy stuff is equivalent to grabbing a big wad of cash out of her purse


Britney   April 19th, 2010 3:41 pm ET

Oh and TheGreatOne, don't you have something more important to do than comment on this?


Ed   April 19th, 2010 5:45 pm ET

Cindy J, "Notice she never mentions in the article how he got her credit card?" ... How stupid are you? The mother obviously didn't write the CNN article.


Josh   April 19th, 2010 6:55 pm ET

Maybe she should watch what her kids are doing on the computer. She is lucky he wasnt signing credit card applications. There are "free money" programs online that let you do that sort of thing for points to get "lottery tickets" for "online drawings." Notice all of the quotes? Because its all scams playing the "barely legal" card.


CNNNEWS   April 19th, 2010 7:09 pm ET

The mother needs to watch her kid better.


alida   April 20th, 2010 12:10 am ET

FARM VILLE WAS CREATED FOR PEOPLE OLDER THAN THAT, ALSO, WHAT IS THE KID DOING WITH THE CREDIT CARD ALONE IN THE COMPUTER!
HE CAN GET NOT ONLY TO FARM VILLE, BUT ANY REAL DANGEROUS PLACE!
SORRY, BUT THESE TIME, PARENTS AND KID SEEM THE SAME!!!


Steele   April 20th, 2010 3:31 am ET

simple. have zynga receive a confirmation from the credit card holder before they charge the account for the purchases made, and in turn zynga only giving the player whatever premium items he/she wanted after they received the confirmation. its slightly slower but hey it will avoid incidents like these and better yet, discourage CREDIT CARD FRAUD which is an even bigger problem i'm sure zynga is facing.


JLEE SHINIGAMI   April 20th, 2010 3:22 pm ET

LOL I’m with JON,,,,,I want to see what that farm looked like! And I don’t even play the game now if my kid pulled that well he would have access to the computer long enough for him to systematically sell the farm off then we would cancel the account together, then he would be cutting lawns carrying groceries etc,,,,,until every dim was paid back, (of course I would probably be arrested for child abuse and violation of child labor laws now days),,,Kids do stupid things it natural, how we deal with it is what defines us as good parents or bad parents,,,,,when I was kid my friend Darren stole a bunch of cloths from the quicksilver his mom saw the tags put 2 and 2 together, Gary his stepdad had him return the cloths and explain how he had stolen them and you know what Darren decided stealing wasn’t his cup of tea,,,,,,


JLEE SHINIGAMI   April 20th, 2010 3:46 pm ET

lol GreatOne you’re in luck there is a place you can go live that already has great social controls and is already regulating the times it citizens can play social gaming – North Korea – you have a good time there I think you will fit right in, the rest of us will live with the risk of becoming robots in our silly free thinking democracies. “ ) Idiot!!!!!!!


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jwark   June 4th, 2010 9:34 pm ET

The kid is 12 years old, things like this happen. People aren't robots, they make mistakes and parents aren't going to be 100% with stopping their kids from doing things like this no matter how much of a self-proclaimed super parent they are. It could happen to ANYONE.

Games should not let 12 year old kids purchase anything with money. If it does happen, they should give it back. It's nothing but their greed that is stopping them from doing so.

I love how so many people just bash the mother and completely forgive the greedy company.


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