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May 20, 2010

Facebookers respond to 'Draw Mohammed Day'

Posted: 11:59 AM ET

Thousands of users posted illustrations of Muslim prophet Mohammed to the web Thursday, responding to a controversial Facebook group that prompted Pakistan to block access to the social-networking site.

Everybody Draw Mohammed Day encourages people to flout the belief by devout Muslims that it is wrong to depict religious figures because it could lead to idol worship. The group has more than 81,000 fans on Facebook.

Creators of the group say they got the idea after recent controversies surrounding the belief. A series of cartoons of Mohammed published in a Danish newspaper in 2005 led to riots in countries around the world.

At least two European cartoonists live under police protection after drawing Mohammed and, most recently, Comedy Central edited part of the animated show "South Park" because it showed the prophet.

By mid-morning on Thursday, more than 7,300 images had been uploaded to the Facebook page, most of them drawings of Mohammed.

Some are silly. But a quick scan showed many that are crude, and some seemed to be intentionally offensive.

The creators of the page said that's not what they're after - that their message is about free speech, not attacking Islam.

"Enjoy the rest of the day and draw Mohammed however you may like," said a Thursday morning post. "We will of course encourage you to make a creative and humourous picture, instead of something hateful."

Predictably, the group has created backlash. Another Facebook group, called "AGAINST Everybody Draw Mohammed Day," actually had more members - about 96,000, as of Monday morning.

Recent posts on that page called on members to "keep protesting against those filthy pages" and report the Draw Mohammed page to Facebook as being objectionable.

But a Facebook spokesman said the page does not violate any of the site's terms. A glitch prevented some users from accessing the page briefly Monday morning, but he said that was technical and has been fixed.

"We want Facebook to be a place where people can openly discuss issues and express their views, while respecting the rights and feelings of others," he said Thursday.

"With now more than 400 million users from around the world, who have varying cultures and ideals, using Facebook as a place to discuss and share things that are important to them, we sometimes find people discussing and posting about topics that others may find controversial, inaccurate, or offensive."

He did, however, suggest Facebook is monitoring the situation closely.

"When these feelings, or any content reported to us becomes an attack on anyone, including Muslim people, it will be removed and further action may be taken against the person responsible," he said.

He said Facebook is disappointed with Pakistan's decision to block the site and is considering legal action.

Pakistan's government issued an order Wednesday blocking Facebook for an indefinite time because the site had not removed the page.

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FreedomORdie   May 20th, 2010 12:15 pm ET

We must fight against ALL cencorship when it comes to freedom or religion or the freedom to criticize religion. There is no place for any cencorship for a belief. We must allow people to have the freedom to believe what they want but we must NOT be censored when criticizing beliefs. Criticizing beliefs is one of the major steps towards progress and this MUST be preserved EVEN if it means lawsuits etc.


Person   May 20th, 2010 12:16 pm ET

I think that threatening the lives of people who draw Mohammed is crazy. But I also think that deliberately flouting Muslim custom is disrespectful and I'll not do it, and at the same time I expect Muslims to respect my customs.


Drew   May 20th, 2010 12:16 pm ET

If this had been a "Make fun of Jesus" drawing contest it would have been a big hit.


Diana   May 20th, 2010 12:16 pm ET

Come on! I am not religious in any way, but i do know how to respect people's belief systems. I'm Amercian and believe in the Freedom of Speech.... but that's not what this is. This is a page set up to directly contradict standards for a specific religion. This FB page should be taken down, just out of sheer respect for religious tolerance.


JasonK   May 20th, 2010 12:18 pm ET

It is wrong to target a single group because of the radical few. Why did we not see a face book page against the GOP when the conservatives adopted the radical Teabagger movement.
Peopel also conveniently forget that it was mighty American dollar (in the hands of Reagan/GOP) that helped radicalize these young minds with the abetting saudi monarchy.


Papagino   May 20th, 2010 12:20 pm ET

@Person – "I expect Muslims to respect my customs."

Good one, let me know how that works out for you....


V   May 20th, 2010 12:20 pm ET

I am not a Muslim. But even I find this offensive, in the name of freedom of speech this is not fair. I am sure any religion would fight back. It doesn't mean start killing others, but I like the idea where another group was opened to not draw Mohammad.


Sara A   May 20th, 2010 12:21 pm ET

" Freedom of Speech" is important but must have limitations. Nobody should disrespect any religious leader no matter what.
Facebook executives are smart enough to know that.


Paul   May 20th, 2010 12:22 pm ET

Well, Sadaat. What sites to they block next? Who determines what is tasteful? The whole idea of freedom OF religion and freedom FROM religion is that we don't HAVE to believe the same thing as you do.

You don't have the right to NOT be offended.

Respectfully,

Paul


Mark C   May 20th, 2010 12:22 pm ET

It doesn't exist to flout the belief among Muslims that it's wrong to depict religious figures. It exists to flout the belief among certain Muslims that it's right to force their beliefs on others through violence.


Jacob   May 20th, 2010 12:23 pm ET

If I were a Muslim, I would be mad about this; but I wouldn't threaten someone with death over it.


JimmyFlimmy   May 20th, 2010 12:23 pm ET

Hmmm... seems facebook users have once again found a way to display complete idiocy. "Draw Mohammad Day"? Really? Is this really about "free speech"? Or is it about incitement?

Let's put together "Draw Jesus taking it in the @$$" Day! It's a celebration of free speech!

I say leave the crap up there. No need to take it down and create a whole free speech issue out of it. But when the dust settles, and everyone has had their say, take another look at the images and the concept, and hopefully most of us will realize how utterly dumb and childish the whole thing is.

Idiots.


Mark C   May 20th, 2010 12:23 pm ET

*** " Freedom of Speech" is important but must have limitations. Nobody should disrespect any religious leader no matter what. ***

Do the gene pool a favor and kill yourself now.


Papagino   May 20th, 2010 12:23 pm ET

Jason – Those dollars have been flowing longer than that – We began buying oil from the middle east back in the days of Truman.

And your crack about targetting a single group because of a radical few? Why don't we see a Facebook page about Code Pink or the Anti – WMO crowd? Or is it only offensive to you when a conservative speaks?


Robcokc   May 20th, 2010 12:24 pm ET

Well let's see not to mention the fact that this shows that they have no true freedoms. Lets just remember that the Muslim movement hates Christians and will go to any length to kill us......


Mike   May 20th, 2010 12:24 pm ET

Gotta agree with FreedomOrDie. There's no reason why anyone should bow down to Muslims and censor themselves to avoid "insulting" their religion. Their religion has killed so many people it's beyond comprehension. They deserve to be mocked and will continue to be mocked until the religion is understood by everyone to be the fairy tale it is and it's followers are no longer bombing and murdering people who disagree.


Juliett   May 20th, 2010 12:24 pm ET

This is just plain silly. Whats the big deal??? You don't see Christians threatening to MURDER innocent people over something so small and insignificant as a drawing of Jesus do you?? Muslims are sick individuals plain and simple whos so called religion condones the murder of anyone that does not agree with them, enslaves and abuses their own women, and uses terror, fear, and intimidation to attempt to gain power and recognition and then put all the blame for their crimes against humanity on their faith. Stop hiding behind your religion and take responsibility for your radical, immature and childish actions.


nevada39   May 20th, 2010 12:25 pm ET

Freedom "of " religion is the basis of the USA..you can believe or not believe, you can question and even disagree with any belief.

To kill someone in the name of any "god" because they draw a picture is just ignorant.

I will always believe that "god" by whatever name would not wish for you to kill in his name.


JackoB   May 20th, 2010 12:25 pm ET

Glad to see respect is dead. It was such a hindrance, wasn't it.


Casey Grover   May 20th, 2010 12:26 pm ET

Freedom of speech. period.


DK   May 20th, 2010 12:27 pm ET

If you don't like it don't look at the page. The "Prophet" was a pedophile anyway.


Papagino   May 20th, 2010 12:27 pm ET

"Freedom of Speech" is important but must have limitations. Nobody should disrespect any religious leader no matter what."

Boy, I bet the Pope is happy to hear that. Half of the posters here would be yukking it up if this were "draw something to tick off a Christian day". The neat thing about that is that the teaching of the Christian churches is to forgive the insulter, not kill them.


Mike   May 20th, 2010 12:27 pm ET

Didn't the real life Mohammad hook up with a child and tell his followers that he would ride off to heaven on a winged horse? I can't believe people follow such a freak. Oh, but because that freak lived a thousand + years ago when everyone was 100% honest in their story telling, it must be true.


Bigrollerak   May 20th, 2010 12:27 pm ET

Who cares, religion is a joke. Get a life people.


common sense   May 20th, 2010 12:27 pm ET

If you are offended why not just threaten to kill the people who drew the picture?!?!? THAT'S why they're doing this. Extremist think they can just threaten anyone over anything and they control the world...TFB not happening. If regular Muslims would rally against the psychos instead of protecting them, then people would feel bad for you! Plus aren't you all named Muhammad anyways? Most of you are way more offensive than these pictures!


Bryan   May 20th, 2010 12:27 pm ET

I grew up with this kid who had a pretty hefty mother. We would poke fun of each other and the other guys, but making fun of his chunky mother was taboo to him. It would send him into a frenzy. Of course, pretty much everything we said was compared to fat mom. Ha ha...I think Muslims need to take a cue from this. If they didn't care, no one else would.


Chris   May 20th, 2010 12:27 pm ET

"deliberately flouting Muslim custom is disrespectful"
Who said anything about respect?
This is America....and we have the right to say what we want.
If you think its ok for Muslims to throw a fit over us being able to say what we what then you can leave.
I will never respect anyone that doesn't respect the right to say what you want. They threaten to kill people. Do you understand that?


David   May 20th, 2010 12:28 pm ET

This is a protest in solidarity with those whose lives have been threatened because they exercised their God-given right to free speech. It is not in essence an attack on Islam.


Bill   May 20th, 2010 12:29 pm ET

If the KKK's right to march is protected by the First Amendment, drawings of religious figures should be too. That doesn't mean you have to like it. In fact, if you don't like Draw Muhammed Day" then your right to peacefully protest it is also protected by the First Amendment.

Land of the free ...


Emad Salim   May 20th, 2010 12:29 pm ET

FreedomOrdie said:

We must fight against ALL cencorship when it comes to freedom or religion or the freedom to criticize religion. There is no place for any cencorship for a belief. We must allow people to have the freedom to believe what they want but we must NOT be censored when criticizing beliefs. Criticizing beliefs is one of the major steps towards progress and this MUST be preserved EVEN if it means lawsuits etc.

Well Mr. Freedom, try to tell a Jew he has a long nose, and see what you will be callled. Anti-semitic, Jew hater, anti-Israel, Get the hell out of America (as if America is Israel!!). So you still think freedom or die?


Sammuel   May 20th, 2010 12:29 pm ET

Because Sadaat.. If you've lived in America all your life you'd understand and know that americans LOVE to instigate situations. They love to provoke. It's just in their nature. When you ask them why they will state "Well, why are you getting so defensive.. it's just a joke". It goes with out saying that they always fall back on "freedom of speech" Yet they don't take any account of how hurtful their words can be sometimes..

I wish that the more radical muslims could simply just "ignore" whatever it is they say instead of retaliation. The radical muslims make things worse for the rest of the muslim world. Because of that, it fuels the American society into claiming more hurtful things such as all muslims or your prophet etc.. Only to anger more and more people. One day when the Americans get slapped (For lack of a better term) They'll cry and say "Why me?? I didn't do anything to you!"


noone2112   May 20th, 2010 12:29 pm ET

It's a Facebook page! Who cares?! Are people that insecure about themselves and their religion that they let someone else's opinion influence them to the point of being offended? If you don't care for it, don't look at it! Cripes!


Midwest   May 20th, 2010 12:30 pm ET

This is not a free speech issue, this is about the control the Mullahs and other authority figures in the Islamic world insist on keeping over, not only their adherents, but also over all people.

There is NO decree in the Koran that says Mohammed cannot be shown.

If it is disrespectful to draw a picture of Mohammed, then too bad. This isn't the 9th century where paranoid despots rule over their people by controlling the simplest of actions.

And to those that say a "Make fun of Jesus Day" would be equally disrespectful, too bad, too. This isn't about bashing Islam, it's about freedom from tyranny.


Gigel   May 20th, 2010 12:30 pm ET

Who the @#$% is prophit ...? Never heard of ...
Westerners, wake up!!! We are in deep dudu!!! The monster has been allowed to grow in our midst and soon it will destroy us while we are more preoccupied who is on the left and who is on the right side of the political spectrum.


Mike   May 20th, 2010 12:30 pm ET

May 20th, 2010 12:27 pm ET

"deliberately flouting Muslim custom is disrespectful"
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A lot of you suburb kids in Nowhereville, USA should take a trip to the middle east and see what kind of conditions Islam has forced women into. Just a quick example, when I was in Iraq it was common to see pickup trucks with goat pens on the back. A male would be driving, the passenger seat would be empty, and a woman would be riding in the goat pen in the back.

Open your ignorant eyes and look at what that religion has done to people who follow it.


eric   May 20th, 2010 12:30 pm ET

As if no Muslim has seen Bin Laden in the last 9 years and could report his position to any legit gov't so they arrest that mass murderer. What do you expect, you claim to be noble and won't even stand up to those who have hijacked your religion, but will shout death to America at every chance. We simply do not care anymore until we see a change in behavior, turn in Bin Laden


Cartman   May 20th, 2010 12:31 pm ET

My drawing of Mohammed would be a blank piece of paper….

….because he does not exist.


Amanda   May 20th, 2010 12:31 pm ET

I had a facebook friend send me a "join group" link to that page. I'm all for freedom of speech, but this page is only promoting disrespect of other people and their beliefs. I ignored the request without a second thought.


kimota   May 20th, 2010 12:32 pm ET

If it weren't for the fact that Muslim clerics and their followers threaten the lives of people who don't share their beliefs, there would be no interest in this facebook page. Believing something is one thing, but threatening the lives of people who do not believe that is wrong.


LOLZ   May 20th, 2010 12:32 pm ET

SAADAAT- LOL Besides not being able to understand your very broken english the reason that people are doing this is because people of your religion think that it's ok to kill people for drawing an imaginary character. Just think of how ridiculously stupid that makes muslims look even if it is only a few fanatical morons.


person 2   May 20th, 2010 12:32 pm ET

This is about free speech! I think the day should be celebrated by everyone. It is rediculous to think that any group should have special privileges in using the threat of force or violence to censor the free speech of others. The site should be monitored and malicious images and comments should be removed and dealt with accordingly. Islam should be just as open to criticism as any other religion. What would be next, would it be excusable for someone to threaten violence if they don't like what you wear in public or what you say, no way.


Muslim Guy   May 20th, 2010 12:33 pm ET

What exactly is the point of this? I am sure this was done by some right-wing nutcase to get a reaction. What is there other than to offend Muslims? This is no different than the KKK burning crosses in black neighborhoods. This is stupid and not needed. Do something better with your time.


elinas   May 20th, 2010 12:34 pm ET

please read this article by renowned montreal physician Emil Sherif.
you will see the true face of Islam !!!

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Tolerating+intolerant/2736040/story.html


Joseph B   May 20th, 2010 12:34 pm ET

@Papagino – "Ahh, the peaceful religion of Islam. Join us or we will cut your head off. We can blow you up, but you can't poke fun at our child molesting, woman abusing prophet."

I thought it was the Catholic Church that was the child molesting group? Are you getting your religions confused?


Delila   May 20th, 2010 12:36 pm ET

Really? Christianity is mocked all the time. Christ is made fun of and the followers of Christ are slammed all the time. That's OK though? There is no difference. Why is it such a big deal to do it to Muslims then?


Monica   May 20th, 2010 12:36 pm ET

Freedom of Speech has nothing to do with hurting someone's feelings. It is the FREEDOM TO EXPRESS YOURSELF HOWEVER YOU SEE FIT......regardless if you find it offensive or if it hurts your feelings. I'm pretty sure feelings are hurt everytime a radical Muslim kills or threatens to kill an American, so I'm not too worried about offending them.


Phred   May 20th, 2010 12:37 pm ET

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one


Matt   May 20th, 2010 12:38 pm ET

If they had a nuclear bomb, they would fire that thing off at us without even blinking.


Mike   May 20th, 2010 12:38 pm ET

Did any of you Muslim supporters notice that nobody ever makes fun of Buddhists? Maybe if Muslims stopped bombing kindergarten classrooms and stoning women to death, people wouldn't insult their F A I R Y T A L E prophet.


Respectforall   May 20th, 2010 12:38 pm ET

You will see the same reaction from Muslims if a call was given to draw degrading cartoons of any of the holy figures including Jesus and Moses. In our culture, we display these figures as ideal for our children. How can you play with the feelings of more than a billion people? And how can you associate a billion with terrorism? We condemn acts of terrorism anywhere in the world. More pakistanis died last year because of suicide bombing. Terrorist belong to no religion. But it hardly helps anyone when such stupid pages are setup on facebook.


William   May 20th, 2010 12:38 pm ET

This is America.... freedom is what our ancestors died for in bloody battles. If they don't like that fact don't come here or go on facebook.
This is OUR right and it needs to be defended. It is also thiers to protest it... that is freedom.


eric   May 20th, 2010 12:38 pm ET

good for pakistan, blocking these sites!!! now maybe instead of spending hours and hours in front of their pc's, they can actually do something productive, like hunt down and kill terrorists and drug lords in their own country!! i'm sure the true, god-fearing christians doing it for them now would really appreciate it!!!


Alethia   May 20th, 2010 12:38 pm ET

American democracy rests upon civility and respect for the various ethnic, racial and religious groups of our country.

This facebook venture hurting the feelings of millions of Muslim Americans is madness. It's incitement.

As a Christian and a human being, I apologize for those idiots who started this...


Bubba   May 20th, 2010 12:38 pm ET

"You don't see Christians threatening to MURDER innocent people over something so small and insignificant as a drawing of Jesus do you??"
Yes. Go find the aricle about Comedy Central's new show "JC" and read the comments. Jihad for Jesus all the way up to threats of beheading . . .


EP   May 20th, 2010 12:39 pm ET

Someone should go on and draw a picture of Mohammed being tea-bagged by Jesus. :-)


noone2112   May 20th, 2010 12:39 pm ET

What really cracks me up is how Muslims are constantly calling us evil infidels, non-believers, etc., yet they are coming to our country in flocks to enjoy the same freedoms they detest (either that or to blow something up). Absolute morons.


JoseTheWrang   May 20th, 2010 12:39 pm ET

OF COURSE drawing Mohammed is disrespectful - of the rigid, tribal, medieval rule, not Mohammed. It's time for Islam to join the 21st century - where EVERY religion gets ridiculed. People riducule Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, everthying, all the time - and that's how you know those religions have made it –they're major religions and under no threat. Giving in to threats of violence by Muslims who don't like it because non-Muslims violate their rules is the cowardice that brought Hitler to power.


Diana   May 20th, 2010 12:39 pm ET

The world is a big place. Stating that we shouldn't censor anything is not realistic. If a sitting head of state personally disagrees with the religious views of another world leader, should that person not censor him or herself for the greater good? If you disagree with the way your boss attends or doesn't attend a church, should you speak up and tell them that they are wrong for the way they live their life? I can't raise my children to forget about respect for other and just teach intoerance for a relgion or belief other than my own. Targeting a religious group is just that and is just what this is. It's not about freedom of speech, that's just what the fb page claims. It's hiding behind something people are willing to fight for (frdm of spch), even if the message is hateful.


Greg Carter   May 20th, 2010 12:39 pm ET

I think this is brilliant. People needed a vehicle to tell certain factions to get stuffed and put them in their true place. And this is the charm!


NoRez   May 20th, 2010 12:39 pm ET

Freedom of speech/expression. That doesn't mean freedom of speech only for those whose speech you agree with, whose speech doesn't offend you, it means freedom for everyone to say anything. Everyone has something they are offended by; no one's is more important than anyone else's. Deal.


Spaghetti Monster   May 20th, 2010 12:40 pm ET

I agree their customs should be respected but when they threaten violence over the issue what do they expect. There are better ways to handle this such as improve the public view of the religion. Put a stop to the terrorist activities promoted by the Muslim world Start being honest about the statements in Quran. I have heard all to often that Muslims are peaceful but after reading the Quran I can only say it is the most barbaric mainstream religion going today.

The only ones that can fix the world view of the Muslim religion are the Muslims themselves. I personally have no respect for a culture that doesn’t even support basic human rights and freedoms, lies about their objectives and applauds when innocents are murdered in the name of their god.

and say what you want Muslims this is the face you have portrayed to the world now you have to deal with the hatred and disrespect that comes with it. Most of us think of you as child killing extremists with no tolerance for anyone that has a different viewpoint.

I saw bring on the illustrations post and publish them everywhere. Make a big deal out of it. Maybe they will come to their senses and join reality with the rest of us.


Pierre   May 20th, 2010 12:40 pm ET

The point is not to flout the beliefs of devout muslims. The point is to flout the beliefs of those who believe it is their right to do violence in the name of islam.


p   May 20th, 2010 12:40 pm ET

Sorry, but I've come to the conclusion that if Muslims had their true wishes granted, all non-muslims would be wiped off the face of the earth. It's an evil religion that teaches hatred, not love, acceptance or forgiveness. If I'm wrong, I'd like them to prove it instead of continually killing people.


fred   May 20th, 2010 12:40 pm ET

Mine would be of a penis. Since mohamed is a dick head


meela   May 20th, 2010 12:40 pm ET

there shouldn't be any hypocrisy.... people should be allowed to make fun holocaust. i saw the pictures. most of them were nude, offensive, and intentionally made to hurt muslims. there should also be "annual holocaust fun day", "hitler lovers day"... that's also freedom of speech.
there shouldn't be any lines.... no limitations. people should degrade each other, abuse each other, live like animals.


fred   May 20th, 2010 12:41 pm ET

Mine would be of a penis. Since mohamed is a penis head


Susan Nguyen   May 20th, 2010 12:41 pm ET

Were a Draw Jesus site to be made, true Christians would follow Jesus' example of praying for those who mock Him, and trust the all powerful love of God to win them over. When a disciple cut off the ear of a zealous guard sent to arrest Jesus, Jesus rebuked him, and restored the ear. No cutting off of body parts in Christianity. It's about restoration, healing, and
letting the all powerful, irresistible pull of the love and forgiveness of God win people over to Him.


fred   May 20th, 2010 12:41 pm ET

Mine would be of a garbage can. Thats where this idiot lives. A trash heap like the middle east


Mike   May 20th, 2010 12:41 pm ET

May 20th, 2010 12:38 pm ET

You will see the same reaction from Muslims if a call was given to draw degrading cartoons of any of the holy figures including Jesus and Moses. In our culture, we display these figures as ideal for our children. How can you play with the feelings of more than a billion people? And how can you associate a billion with terrorism? We condemn acts of terrorism anywhere in the world. More pakistanis died last year because of suicide bombing. Terrorist belong to no religion. But it hardly helps anyone when such stupid pages are setup on facebook.
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You should get out of the suburb and go spend a few months in the Middle East. Maybe you'll catch a public execution of some gay people, or the awesome courtroom drama in Saudi Arabia of a radio host being sentenced to death for "sorcery", yes "sorcery". Or maybe your could ride with women in the goat pen on the back of a pickup truck with the seats in the cab remain empty. Islam is a plague that is trying to keep people in the 8th century.


Yas   May 20th, 2010 12:41 pm ET

Talk about spreading hate and dissing others' customs.

Sure there are extremist Muslims, but so are "skinhead" Christians, or any other religion's followers. For conservative Muslims, this is extremely offensive and just pushes us away as well.

I urge everyone to treat Islam with respect. Don't bundle us along with the extremists, and if you have something against them, by all means lash out at them. But do NOT diss the rest of us in such ways as it serves no purpose except to alienate ALL Muslims. It spreads hate.

Please respect our customs. Conservative Muslims like myself respect yours as well.


Bilal   May 20th, 2010 12:42 pm ET

I am a practing Muslim but what Facebook is doing is wrong and that does not show freedom of speach nor does it show any other kind of so called open mindedness. All it is creating is hatred and a curtain between the muslim world and the west. For all who don't know FYI: We respect all the prophets it could be Adam, Moses, Jesus, Mohammed (PBUH) we (muslims) do not depict any prophet in any kind creatures. So please try to understand that is actually fueling more hatred and it needs to be stopped.


Bushpig   May 20th, 2010 12:42 pm ET

I drew him in a compromising position with a goat and a young child.


rs   May 20th, 2010 12:42 pm ET

Looks like Facebook has more guts than Cowardly Central.


fred   May 20th, 2010 12:42 pm ET

Mike. Get a life. We will do as we please to this fake god. Islam is an obamanation.


Choconet   May 20th, 2010 12:42 pm ET

Some people are so misguided it’s unbelievable. I think maybe even a little scared. Jesus has been ridiculed from the day He was nailed to the cross and you don't see Christians crying and screaming. To the idiot who said have a draw Jesus contest, Jesus has been depicted in some of the most unfavorable lights in countless depictions. What you thought you just came up with that idea? Stop defending something you know nothing about because of fear. Face bookers draw whatever you want in as many depictions as you want. This is still the United States of America, maybe not for long, but for right now it’’s still the USA. You passive pansy can go find you some neutral country that doesn't stand for anything and live there. I assure in time you'll fall for anything.


John   May 20th, 2010 12:43 pm ET

If you drop a crucifix in urine, it is protected by free speech. Some find it offensive, but no one is threatened with death. Draw a picture of Mohamed, it is protected by free speech. Some find it offensive, some are threatened with death.

Even non-religious Bill Maher pointed out that when he makes a joke about the pope, the pope doesn't send anyone over here to kill him.


Mike   May 20th, 2010 12:44 pm ET

May 20th, 2010 12:38 pm ET

American democracy rests upon civility and respect for the various ethnic, racial and religious groups of our country.

This facebook venture hurting the feelings of millions of Muslim Americans is madness. It's incitement.

As a Christian and a human being, I apologize for those idiots who started this...
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You need to get out of the suburb and go do some traveling in the middle east. I spent a year over there and can tell you that you have no clue how much damage Islam does to human rights.


Joe Mama   May 20th, 2010 12:44 pm ET

@SARA A: You win the prize for most clueless comment of the day.


knobe   May 20th, 2010 12:45 pm ET

The action is about the fascist and neanderthal threats to the various artists .
Although most Muslims are OK , the psychotic clerics threatening artists is barbarian and many westerners are fed up with their violence .

We do NOT back down from fascists .
Honorable Muslims are no problem ,
The jihadists are violating the true spirit of Muhammad and need to return to their demonic home .


Cartman   May 20th, 2010 12:46 pm ET

I'd draw Allah fingering his own butt hole . . . . but There Is No Allah!


Jerri Blank   May 20th, 2010 12:46 pm ET

I got something to say. Any 'controversy' involving a religious prophet is comparible to a 'controversy' involving the tooth fairy or the easter bunny.


Robert   May 20th, 2010 12:47 pm ET

I sure hope this resolves quickly or I may have to cancel the comic strip I draw: Muhammad and the Magical Dog. It's all in good fun and they are always getting into trouble. They even switch bodies in last weeks episode.


meela   May 20th, 2010 12:47 pm ET

there 3-6 million christians in pakistan... and millions more in middleeast. we treat them as brothers, but in fact they are backstabbers.


MattC   May 20th, 2010 12:47 pm ET

I completely disagree with some of you. The reason we have freedom of speech is precisely to incite emotions and offend. It's not only your right to offend someone, it's your duty. Think this is extreme? Think harder ... if you don't offend someone, you're not reaching them. It's only when people are affected deeply do they begin to think. The problem here is that we're dealing with an evil religion and psychopathic followers (just as many as Christians, Jews, Buddhists, etc) who will kill you if you don't believe the same way they do. Well, welcome to America! Keep drawing Mohammed, people, the more offensive, the better!


Scott   May 20th, 2010 12:47 pm ET

People who are offended easily should be and often.

History does not record anywhere at any time a religion that has any rational basis. Religion is a crutch for people not strong enough to stand up to the unknown without help. But, like dandruff, most people do have a religion and spend time and money on it and seem to derive considerable pleasure from fiddling with it.

Of all the strange crimes that humanity has legislated out of nothing, blasphemy is the most amazing – with obscenity and indecent exposure fighting it out for second and third place.

Sin lies only in hurting other people unnecessarily. All other sins are invented nonsense. (Hurting yourself is not sinful–just stupid.)

One man's religion is another man's belly laugh.

[Robert Heinlein, Notebooks of Lazarus Long]


naz nabz   May 20th, 2010 12:48 pm ET

i think that muslim r respectful of all relilgion, as many of them r realated to islam one way another. their relilgion should be respected just like any other person.


IAN   May 20th, 2010 12:48 pm ET

Oh, get a sense of humor Islam.


Muslim Guy   May 20th, 2010 12:48 pm ET

Let me guess all you those who support this "freedom of speech" are Republicans, tea-party members, and Conservative Christians who watn to compete with Islam? I bet you or your parents considered KKK burning crosses in black backyards as freedom of speech. You are idiots. Please do us a favor and end your crappy lives.


wil   May 20th, 2010 12:48 pm ET

How we resolve these cultural clashes is what is going to shape the future of the world. Saying WHATEVER YOU WANT is not FREEDOM it is irresponsible. Saying something that offends someone and citing FREEDOM of speech as why is cowardly. You are hiding your ignorance behind freedom of speech. You do not change the world by saying something because YOU CAN. You change the world by saying something THAT CAN potentially bring us closer. Blashpemers of all faiths were killed for a long time. We have become indifferent. Devout Muslims are not indifferent to their beliefs, and it is the height of arrogance to think that just because YOU dont care about Christians being ridiculed, that another person of a different faith should take ridicule just as lightly.


Billy   May 20th, 2010 12:49 pm ET

Islam is anything but a peaceful religion. They want to force
us to believe in some nutcase child molester and will kill us
if we resist. Muslims need to chill out and smoke a bone or
two and get along with everybody else. But they can't even
get along with each other. They kill gays, abuse women
and treat workers like dirt. They would like to wipe the Jewish
people off the face of the earth except the Jews would kick their
Arab asses back to the 8th century where they belong.


LOLZ   May 20th, 2010 12:49 pm ET

Birial- The hatred is coming from your side you fool.


give me a break   May 20th, 2010 12:49 pm ET

This is about free speech. This is the only way to get around the whole I'm gonna kill a cartoonist for drawing the figure. A website posted the addresses and pictures of the southpark creators, and had, not even subtle, calls to violence against the pair. This is the problem with religion, and beliefs. Can't draw a picture, but it is OK to kill someone for drawing the picture. Organized religion is the bane of human existence. The crusades (three of them), the spanish inquisiton, the holocaust (though not directly), salem witch trials, 9/11. What do they all have in common? All human created atrocities that were fostered by the seeds of hate planted by organized religion. There are more, many more. The sooner we rid ourselves of organized religion the sooner peace will come to this planet.


Rusty   May 20th, 2010 12:49 pm ET

I have a problem with people who cry censorship and use it as an excuse to be crude and disrespectful of others beliefs. Someone people say athiests are dopes, or subhumans, or have brains the size of a peas, but this is wrong because we aIl know very smart, very nice athiests, and some of my good friends are athiests so I don't like it either.

Being disrespectful of someone else's faith or belief is not the world I want to live in.


Brian   May 20th, 2010 12:49 pm ET

bilal,

What is causing hatred between Muslims and the west are the beheadings, airplanes into bulidings, genocide (Chemical Ali) and constant bombings of their own people for 'religious' reasons. As one of your clerics stated, their goal, Islam's goal was to dominate the world according to Islam. Look at your religion and what it commands and how it is expressed and you see why you have hatred.


Bill   May 20th, 2010 12:50 pm ET

@Muslim Guy

The point is Freedom of Speech. The KKK marching and the American flag getting burned are things that are offensive but are protected by the First Amendment. We simply cannot say some things are protected and others aren't. That would begin a path down a slippery slope that leads to censorship, oppression and this no longer being the Land Of The Free.

Imagine: Suddenly, drawing religious figures is no longer allowed. If they are off limits, then what about political figures? And if political cartoons are no longer allowed, why not ban political commentary in newspapers and magazines? You see, when you grant freedom to people, you can't begin to pick and choose what the freedom applies to. The second you do that, it's no longer freedom. And once freedom is lost, tyranny can slowly take over.

The shame of it is that, yes, this is also offensive. But, at the same time, it's just a drawing. What's more offensive: a cartoon or threatening to kill someone for drawing the cartoon? Threats like these are very real and they're starting to dictate censorship in America, which is Step One down the aforementioned slippery slope.

The freedom to create these drawings is protected by the First Amendment. But protesting against these drawings is also protected. So go ahead, protest them. Speak your mind and let everyone know how this makes you feel. Ideally this leads to an exchange of ideas and is what this country was built on ... both sides having their say and neither being silenced before it can be heard.


FK Idiots   May 20th, 2010 12:50 pm ET

Can someone tell me, what is "freedom of speech"? how much can you enjoy (or abuse someone) with it? how much can you stretch this freedom? Can you appear on a TV show and start using foul language without a beep? NO, right? but why? how come all of sudden you dont have "freedom" of speech? Don't go far, how come I can't use F-words on this comment for those who deserve it?


Bill in CA.   May 20th, 2010 12:50 pm ET

What's to draw...a couple of butt cheeks is about it!!!


StephenInCT   May 20th, 2010 12:51 pm ET

The point is, respecting a person's religion is a personal decision. If I am not of a certain faith, then I don't have to abide by their rules and laws..AND should not be forced to do so.

So, here's the deal. If you don't want to see Mohamed depicted in photos, drawing or otherwise....close your eyes and STFU.

If your gawd/deity is that weak that he can't take a little criticism...then maybe....he's not real.


Ian   May 20th, 2010 12:51 pm ET

Religion sucks. Really, with everything that is going on in the world today we're going to have a debate on THIS?


eric   May 20th, 2010 12:51 pm ET

@yas:

"I urge everyone to treat Islam with respect. Don't bundle us along with the extremists, and if you have something against them, by all means lash out at them."

herein lies the crux of the issue. it is NOT about the few extremists causing all this furor, but the vast majority of those within the same religion chosing to do nothing about it, and worse, seemingly supportive of it!! why is it the rest of the respectful muslim folks don't take up the cause to shut these extremists DOW|N themselves, if what they're doing is so offensive??

i saw, draw away!!


An Artist   May 20th, 2010 12:52 pm ET

"Nobody should disrespect any religious leader no matter what."

Really? Why? Our freedoms are being eroded slowly in the name of respect.


Mike D   May 20th, 2010 12:52 pm ET

Deep down every religion has a common goal, for the good of mankind. We shopuld embrace the differences, that make us unique, and the fact we all live on the same planet. Although there is such a thing as freedom of speech, it doesn't we should use it to hurt others. It comes with responsibility if we should deserve it. think!


Elite   May 20th, 2010 12:52 pm ET

Scott If you are never offended then join my "Draw the 9\11" group ..
Ive got some flaming bodies flying outta 2xtowers..

This group has no other agenda but to get a rise out of muslims.


Mike   May 20th, 2010 12:52 pm ET

Religions get ridiculed when their followers bomb kindergartens and oppress people. Did you Muslim supporters notice that nobody makes fun of Hindus or Bhuddists and that people generally hold those two religions in high esteem? It has to do with the fact that the terms "Bhuddist fanatic" and "Hindu orphanage bomber" are never spoken.


zenab   May 20th, 2010 12:53 pm ET

i am so proud to be a pakistani today at least we have guts to dare against the wrong even though we are suffering today but thank god we have the courage to say no to wrong.i felt bad that the rest of the muslim countries are silent on this big insult to our faith.


rl   May 20th, 2010 12:53 pm ET

I was invited to this event, but chose not to participate because I respect Muslims beliefs that it is wrong to depict Muhammad. Just as I choose not to photograph the Amish because it is against their beliefs. As for everyone who believes that Islam is an evil religion because of a few radicals. There is a group who has killed more Americans than Muslims have. They believe that if you were not born in the USA, are white and Protestant that you shouldn't be allowed to live in the US. They are the KKK. I am white, US born and a Protestant. Does that make me an evil terrosist? The biggest threat to the US today? The ignorance within our own borders.


Mike   May 20th, 2010 12:54 pm ET

Freedom of speech is a tough one, especially when it is something you dont like or are offended by. Too bad! As long as its not a lie, or deformation (of someone we can see/ is real) suck it up and move on.
I will have respect for members of Islam when they start policing their own radicals.
I sick of hearing Muslim's OKing the radical behaivior of other muslim's because it says its OK in the Koran.
Why would an all powerful god care about what a mere mortal would depict him as? Sound pretty weak. I quess he can be as he hides behind all those murderous followers. Geez they hide too.... cowards.
I think Allah looks like a bleeding pig licking a dog.


John   May 20th, 2010 12:54 pm ET

If you don't beleive in Islam then why would drawing Muhammad be a sin? If Muslims condone attacking someone who does not follow the rules of their own religion then they are infringing on my rights. Then again, what is the point of this whole thing other than to offend muslims. This childish back and forth needs to stop.


808mbp   May 20th, 2010 12:54 pm ET

I love how the Muslims say they are not doing anything wrong, living in a middle age mind set is only ruining the quality of life for people in the world. You should not care what anybody says or does, you have beliefs and others have theirs. Why do you care what other people draw? Buddhists don't care if South Park has Buddha doing lines off a table. How can you say its a religion of peace when you say believe and follow our rules or we'll kill you? Religion is the cause for most of the worlds problems over the years, it causes people to make an imaginary being more important that the real people here in front of us, if all the money and time and space given to religious groups was actually used to help people I'm sure it would be a better world. I see huge church organizations and their fleet of vans and real estate ect. and its all crap, sell it all and help some people if you have the morals you claim to..........


eric   May 20th, 2010 12:54 pm ET

@zenab:

go kill a few terrorists or drug lords first, then post!!!


Elite   May 20th, 2010 12:54 pm ET

@ Mike... Christians(US army) has killed more innocent people in the past few years then any 'muslim' terrorist. Its all about perspective..


RightCoastVA   May 20th, 2010 12:55 pm ET

I have Muslim friends and have no intention of participating out of respect for them. However, reporters, cartoonists, authors, or anyone else shouldn't fear for their lives if someone does disrespect another's religion.

This is a crude way of pulling back or starting to pull back the proverbial curtain or taboo of drawing Mohammed but it needs to happen.


DarkLogic   May 20th, 2010 12:55 pm ET

I'm not Muslim, but this is just a slap to the face of those who are. It's part of their religion, and we should respect it. Drawing cartoons of someone who *shouldn't* be depicted in any way is just wrong.


UTN1   May 20th, 2010 12:55 pm ET

No one has the right to disrespect religion who ever u r..
May the people concerned burn in hell... Aameen


Patrick   May 20th, 2010 12:56 pm ET

The only problem I have with this story is that there are so many people on Facebook in the first place. Get a life losers.


Yas   May 20th, 2010 12:57 pm ET

@eric

I disagree, man. I live in the US, and respect the US customs and freedom of speech. Sometimes things go a little too far, though.

You say nothing is being done about these extremists? Even in Afghanistan itself, there's a moderate government in place (or at least it's getting there, kind of), and even Pakistan is becoming a target of these extremists.

Now look at Pakistan. They're under attack from terrorists because of all the offensives launched against the Taliban. And on the other hand, they're the butt of many jokes and are disrespected and dissed by the world for supporting terrorism. Dissed from all fronts.

It's really not that easy to shut down the extremists. Why are white supremacists still in existance? Why aren't they shut down? It's extremely tough to do so. You can't look at one and judge whether they're an extremist or not.


chicagoK   May 20th, 2010 12:57 pm ET

Muslims are still in the 7th century. They've gone backward as the world moved forward on civil rights and freedom. A Muslim is hardly more advanced than a monkey!


John   May 20th, 2010 12:58 pm ET

Am I going to submit a picture? No, personally I believe in tolerance. But I also support the right of people to free speech and I think when Islam gets to the point where stuff like this isn't a big deal it'll be progress.


Smith   May 20th, 2010 12:58 pm ET

Threatening few people is terrorism and disgustedly offending entire religion is freedom of speech, good very good Americans.


jfc1   May 20th, 2010 12:58 pm ET

""We want Facebook to be a place where people can openly discuss issues and express their views, while respecting the rights and feelings of others," he said Thursday. "

Whatever.

How are you going to do that when 1/3rd of the planet has a religious belief that says that drawing pictures of the prophet is a sin?


Alex Winter   May 20th, 2010 12:58 pm ET

Islam is the best! If you're Muslim and you don't agree with someone, you get to kill them! The Koran says so!


James   May 20th, 2010 12:59 pm ET

This is not about free speech. Jerks like these guys are instigators. They thrive on pushing people buttons and keeping conflict going. What redeeming value does it have to promote free speech by publically offending another’s religious belief? I am not Muslim, but I’d punch this guy in the nose if I saw him in the streets. Hey, I would just be freely expressing myself… right?


mikialama   May 20th, 2010 12:59 pm ET

I am not a Muslim, and I don't understand their great horror of a picture, but I DO honor the fact that this is a belief they have and I don't think taunting them about it is right. And by the way, I AM a Christian, so not all of us are closed minded bigots...just so you know. :)


Sensible One   May 20th, 2010 12:59 pm ET

I understand that it is impolite to insult someone's beliefs but that doesn't mean it should be against the law or should result in murder. I thought that the true test of faith was sticking to your beliefs in the face of criticism and doubt. In the era of the West Baptist Church and other radical free speech groups, I don't think a drawing of a religious figure, albeit an important one, should even be considered controversial. If anyone saw the South Park episode which created the most recent chapter in this controversy, there were very insulting scenes involving other religious figures. For example, Buddha was shown snorting lines of cocaine. I don't see Buddhists in uproar. I think what this comes down to is religious tolerance. Perhaps not in the traditional sense of allowing someone to exercise their beliefs but tolerance of religious doubt and criticism. And on a related note, isn't atheism a religious belief or lack thereof? Why can't those who doubt the veracity of religious beliefs express their skepticism?


Mike   May 20th, 2010 12:59 pm ET

May 20th, 2010 12:54 pm ET

@ Mike... Christians(US army) has killed more innocent people in the past few years then any 'muslim' terrorist. Its all about perspective..
---–
You're right. It all started when the US Army flew planes into the Afghan World Trade Center towers and mudered thousands of civilians. We should have never started this war.


Tom   May 20th, 2010 12:59 pm ET

I think it says a lot that muslims have no problem burning an effegy of the Pope and having protests and carrying signs calling for the death of all non-muslims... then demand that we respect mulsims and their religion under threat of death. Then they wasnt us to believe Islam is a religion of peace .... riiiiight!


LOLZ   May 20th, 2010 12:59 pm ET

Zenab- How is a drawing of an imaginary character an insult to your faith?? Does it make you realize that Muhammed doesn't really exist and is no more than a figment of the collective MuZzlemin Nation?


Reason   May 20th, 2010 1:00 pm ET

All religions are false, all prophets are false, religions only enable unjust beliefs and provocation of harm to others.

Grow up and learn to live along side fellow man without the disability of religion, and the danger it carries with it.


Joe   May 20th, 2010 1:00 pm ET

Does anyone really know what Mohammed looked like? Let the people doodle online. Would the moslems feel better if Facebook said that this one a Mohammed look a like contest? So drawing an image of Mohammed is offensive but what is in the Qoran is not? There are sections in the Qoran that say if you compare a Christian to a pig you are insulting the pig. The Qoran teaches that anyone who is not Moslem is the enemy. The Qoran also teaches that you must kill your enemy... I can see why doodling is such a crime to moslems... Yep. That makes sense now.


Billy   May 20th, 2010 1:00 pm ET

America emerged as the leader of the free world because we
are all different. The problem with Muslims is they are all the same
and still live in the 8th century. Mohammed was a dope addict and
child molester – admit it and move on with your life.


kent   May 20th, 2010 1:00 pm ET

Muslims believe that it is their divine objective to rule the world, and to use whatever means available to them to accomplish that. So if Allah gives them access to the atomic bomb, well then, Allah must want them to use it. There will be no restraint ... there IS no restraint. That is what we mock, for when an individual practices no restraint, they have reduced their self to the level of an animal and no longer belong to civilized society.

And hey, I don't like "art" showing a crucifix in a chalice filled with urine, or movies of a gay Jesus ... but I don't threaten to kill anyone over it. An omnipotent God can defend himself just fine without any man's puny efforts.


Elite   May 20th, 2010 1:00 pm ET

chicagoK – dont lump all muslims together.. There are a lot of backwards muslims\hindus\christians in the 3rd world.. but there are a lot of highly educated\advanced ones in the west..

pages like these are helping them all get together and creating more enemies. THere are millions of us in the west.. Dont attack Islam and focus on the radicals.


Smith   May 20th, 2010 1:00 pm ET

This is not freedom of speech, this is giving air to more and more hatred between religions.


ae   May 20th, 2010 1:01 pm ET

draw away!!!

people who live in a free society should not be controlled by extremists from the other side of the world. if they don't like it, then they don't have to look at it.

last time i checked, suicide bombers aren't very respectful to say the least


Bill Monroe   May 20th, 2010 1:01 pm ET

sadaat sethi asks, "why the hell are they pointing on our prophit..."

It's very simple really. Either your Prophit was quite screwed up, or most of his followers seem to be. A "Prophit"...or religion...that teaches that men are superior to women, advocates the torture and murder of "nonbelievers," promises eternal rewards for mass murder, and seeks to dominate other cultures is evil and should be destroyed.


Zakir Khan   May 20th, 2010 1:01 pm ET

@ Mikialama
:D


K'Rik   May 20th, 2010 1:02 pm ET

If you are offended, maybe you should develop a sense of humor. It goes a really long way.

NO CENSORSHIP!


John Pepp   May 20th, 2010 1:02 pm ET

While I believe in the freedom of the press, but this site does nothing other than to create tensions between Christians and Muslims. We already have enough of that. People get upset when Jesus is portrayed in a bayd way, why should it be any different for Muslims? I'm a member of Facebook and I'll never join that site.


eric   May 20th, 2010 1:02 pm ET

@yas:

what took them so flong??

"Now look at Pakistan. They're under attack from terrorists because of all the offensives launched against the Taliban. And on the other hand, they're the butt of many jokes and are disrespected and dissed by the world for supporting terrorism. Dissed from all fronts."


give me a break   May 20th, 2010 1:02 pm ET

Tom,

I believe you hit the nail on the head.


W62   May 20th, 2010 1:03 pm ET

Same people or groups who justify "draw Mohammad day" in the name of freedom of speech, will also pick on muslim hijab. Don't they have freedom to choose how to dress? You can do whatever you want to do in the name of freedom, while I can't even choose my dress. It's 100% hypocrasy.


Theone   May 20th, 2010 1:04 pm ET

So what exactly happened to " Your rights end where my nose begins" ?


Elite   May 20th, 2010 1:04 pm ET

@ Mike : Afghans did not fly those planes.. You dont kill half a million people just because you cant find Usama (Arab) ..

If thats not terrorism then I dont know what is.. Iraq is another story.. Saddam couldve been taken care of by hiring a hitman for less then a million dollars.

You are as brainwashed as the radicals in pakistan..


youbetcha   May 20th, 2010 1:04 pm ET

Wow! Censorship from the democracy loving gov't of Pakistan. Time to invade the boneheads, bag bin Laden, and give em to India


Jeff P   May 20th, 2010 1:04 pm ET

I don't think people are joining this pages and posting pictures to start some sort of uprising. I think they are joining and posting to protest the ridiculous reaction the Muslim population has whenever there is perceived criticism or questioining of their belief system. The ends never seems to justify the means. Hundreds of thousands if not millions of screaming people rioting in the streets worldwide because of a cartoon is not a sane reaction. I think most people want to point out that they will not allow themselves to be threatened by the followers of a 'peaceful' religion. I think people want to point out the ridiculousness of what is said in defense of Islam and the actions (or inaction) of the followers of Islam whenever they feel they've been "insulted". And it seems like their 'insult meter' is set to super-sensitive. Their radical leaders can't wait for another controversy so they can stir up the masses and have the scream in the streets, threaten to kill, and breed more hate towards anyone who doesn't think or live the same way they do.

This is why I live in the US and plan on staying here. I can believe whatever I want to believe. And I can criticize someone else's beliefs without worrying about being stoned to death or beheaded. Actually, I am protected from people like that. In their world the government backs up the insane radicals!

Nothing will change until the radical religious leaders ON ALL SIDES are called out by other followers of their faith for being radical and an embarrassment to their religions. People need to stand up and say "This is not what we believe in, and these people don't represent us." I am not just talking about some guest on CNN that attended Harvard, etc. I am talking about Joe Average on the street, en masse. And that isn't happening any time soon, especially when people firmly believe outlandish sagas that are very similar to Harry Potter or The Lord of the Rings. Reminder – it is 2010. We've learned a little since then...

In the end, I think the reason most people have joined this page is to protest the reaction it causes.


Mushtaq   May 20th, 2010 1:04 pm ET

The site owners should shame a bundle, how they make such things on social media group. We condemn all such things. We must receive what you are doing. Go to Hill facebook and its owners


J Gray   May 20th, 2010 1:04 pm ET

I will submit my Drawing that i been working on when i get home. Its about Free Speech. Not Oppression to speech. If someone has a issue about it. Dont go to the page. We are not forcing musilm to go to the page and look at it. We are sick and tired of groups of people that oppress free speech. Not a Hate Group. We dont want to let some guy in somewhere preventing us to make a picture of the prophet.


chucklehead   May 20th, 2010 1:05 pm ET

How about: everybody put a crucifix in a jar of urine and take a picture day?


marcia   May 20th, 2010 1:05 pm ET

Why why in God's/Allah's name can't people just behave.
We ALL know that downgrading our neighbor,his beliefs,his person,
his family etc. is wrong.
Being unkind to children,women,and animals is wrong.
I don't care who you are,or what you believe.....YOU KNOW IT'S WRONG!
STOP IT....YOUR BEHAVIOR IS KILLING OUR PLANET!
And you have no God/Allah given right to torment your neighbor!
GOD/ALLAH DOES NOT APPROVE AND YOU KNOW IT!!!1


NickinWI   May 20th, 2010 1:05 pm ET

As an American muslim convert, I must state two points quite simply:

1) This country's First Amendment protection of speech is not absolute. People (including the management of Facebook) need to acknowledge that speech is not protected when it is "Incendiary, defamatory, hateful, or libelous". I am paraphrasing here, but I believe this is virtually verbatim from SCOTUS's previous determinations dealing with First Amendment protection.

2) I want to make clear that I in no way condone violence, and a majority of Muslims (based on my experience) think likewise. Please don't let your perceptions of an entire group of people be colored by the actions of the few.


TommyB   May 20th, 2010 1:05 pm ET

"Respect" is earned, not granter unconditionally just because it's religion – that's the Mafia's stock in trade. Hmm...I see parallels.


Boneless   May 20th, 2010 1:06 pm ET

Why do people have to respect customs that are so purely arbitrary and childish? Sure, it's sweet to be all bleeding heart PC and blather about respect, but people are threatening lives over drawing a picture of some dude. Are you five?

Free speech and higher ideals don't need to be quoted when we are dealing with childhood playground pouting. My brother used to make fun of Hulk Hogan when I thought he was the coolest guy in the world. I didn't stroke myself in to a rage of indignation that somebody else didn't give a crap about something I cared about.

Millions of people being convinced by power-grubbing Chief Yahoos that believing that Cartoons are Evil doesn't make it a valid argument for anything, never mind murder.


Bill   May 20th, 2010 1:06 pm ET

@Yas

Fair point.

But there IS a line. Take your example of white supremacists. Certainly their message is offensive, but they have the right to believe whatever they believe. They DON'T, however, have the right to kill people who are of another race. So they have the right to think what they want, say what they want and even peacefully demonstrate. But when they assault people who don't fit in their their beliefs, that's when a legal line is crossed.

A drawing doesn't cross this line.

And Muslims are allowed to believe that drawing Mohammed is offensive. They're allowed to think that, say that and even protest the drawings. But when the lives of those creating the drawings are threatened to the point where someone has actually been killed, that's when the line is crossed.

We have Freedom Of Speech. Not Freedom To Force A Particular Point Of View Upon Others Or Else Face Physical Retribution.


Ummhello   May 20th, 2010 1:06 pm ET

“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”
~Stephen Roberts

will the human race ever get out of the dark ages?
amazing, truly amazing


Joe   May 20th, 2010 1:06 pm ET

@W62... Its a good thing that the new miss USA does not believe in your hijab... On the other hand, I do agree with you and I thank Mohammed for making Moslem women wear it. Some of them should always be covered...


Mick   May 20th, 2010 1:07 pm ET

Man, it must suck to be a Muslim. Sounds like a lot of griping and being offended. Christians used to be like this to about 600 years ago. Some still are today. Religion poisons everything. I do think it's kind of awesome to take the pi** out of people with no sense of humor. Drawing a picture of a guy who supposedly listened to god tell him not to shave and what to eat doesn't seem like the worst thing ever.


nojo   May 20th, 2010 1:07 pm ET

I find death threats a whole lot more offensive.


Bubba   May 20th, 2010 1:07 pm ET

"religion...that teaches that men are superior to women, advocates the torture and murder of "nonbelievers," promises eternal rewards for mass murder, and seeks to dominate other cultures is evil and should be destroyed."
Man, Christianity fits that description as well as Islam. Have you never studied history?


Bill Monroe   May 20th, 2010 1:07 pm ET

chucklehead, that's been done. Can't you at least be original?


Stiles   May 20th, 2010 1:07 pm ET

I could care less what anyone thinks about what I say.
I rip on all religion because it is the root cause of all evil in the world.
More wars deaths and nutjobs were created because of an ancient ideal used to control the masses than any other reason.
Screw all of your religious prophets, saviours,etc. It's all a sham you fools.


Ian   May 20th, 2010 1:07 pm ET

This is pretty insane, and I still don't understand it. If I have my own religion, and we respect the Banana, does this then give us the right to threaten and kill anyone who buys, eats, draws, or looks at a Banana. Sure, it's insane, but you have to respect my religion, no more Bananas for anyone. It's a simple thing to give up, just stop eating Bananas, out of respect for me.

At some point you have to let go, and give people the right to offend you, and don't tell me this "we respect all prophets." South Park has had many episodes with Jesus in it, who is a prophet in your book.


asim ghaffar   May 20th, 2010 1:07 pm ET

@TOM do you really believe majority muslims are like that?

and do you really believe that war on terror is not war of terror..


JAnders   May 20th, 2010 1:07 pm ET

This is not about "free speech." This has become an open invitation to bash and spread hate about Muslims. Would anyone be defending a "everybody draw blackface" day, encouraging 1920's era degrading cartoons of black, on the basis of free speech?


Mohammed   May 20th, 2010 1:07 pm ET

I dont know why my fellow muslims make a big deal about this. The fact is when Mohammed PBUH can forgive people who tortured him why can't we ignore these things and live peacefully. As a simple teaching in Islam says "Kill one innocent man and you killed the whole mankind" So please practice the propoer teaching of Islam and learn to forgive.

For all of you talking about freedom of speech there is no complete freedom after all and deliberatly making fun of someones believe is not freedom of speech. The fact that if someone make fun of your back ground or race then naturally you will be upset. We can always have proper arguments but never to a point to start a fight. And freedom of speech means one is allowed to speak his mind in a proper discussion.


Joe   May 20th, 2010 1:07 pm ET

I have a solution for this. If you are offended then stay the hell away from Facebook... There you go. Problem solved.


LOLZ   May 20th, 2010 1:07 pm ET

The site owners should shame a bundle, how they make such things on social media group. We condemn all such things. We must receive what you are doing. Go to Hill facebook and its owners
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Yes go to hill facebook. Let someone draw a picture and go to HILL!!!!


AWBivins   May 20th, 2010 1:07 pm ET

"You can destroy freedom as much by abusing it, as you can by taking it away." Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh


give me a break   May 20th, 2010 1:08 pm ET

Smith,

Yes, that is free speech. It comes with a price. Sometimes you have to tolerate views you don't agree with to safeguard the freedom. If you lived in some countries and you disrespected the people of that country, as you did Americans in your first post, you would have been put to death. If you don't appreciate the freedom, then don't use it.


mattmchugh   May 20th, 2010 1:08 pm ET

I love this concept. I wonder if I have the guts to post one under my own profile name?


Mike   May 20th, 2010 1:09 pm ET

As an American muslim convert, I must state two points quite simply:

1) This country's First Amendment protection of speech is not absolute. People (including the management of Facebook) need to acknowledge that speech is not protected when it is "Incendiary, defamatory, hateful, or libelous". I am paraphrasing here, but I believe this is virtually verbatim from SCOTUS's previous determinations dealing with First Amendment protection.
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Saying that Jesus wasn't the one true God used to be "Incendiary, hateful, etc". Good thing we're past that. I think Muslims have killed and oppressed enough people for it to be OK to call them out on their BS.


Yas   May 20th, 2010 1:09 pm ET

@Eric

It's a tough situation. Unfortunately Pakistan is just 60 odd years old. Corruption runs deep and politics is twisted. The situation is further exacerbated due to the fact that the northern border is effectively impossible to patrol and protect.

Going up against Afghanistan would have had dire consequences. There are continuous attacks inside Pakistan now, and of course there's no real way of protecting against them.

I don't believe Pakistan could really take on Afghanistan by themselves due to the complicated terrain there. Even the US is having a tough-ish time there.

I say better late than never. It's still not good to snub our nose at the customs of a culture or a religion. I may not be a Christian, but I still respect my friends who are. I wouldn't diss their customs or beliefs.

US is supposed to be about respect, rights, and tolerance. We're seriously starting to lack in that department.


therm   May 20th, 2010 1:09 pm ET

Sara A – "" Freedom of Speech" is important but must have limitations."

Are you kidding me? If you limit something, then it's not free, so limiting "freedom of speech" is contradictory. You can limit speech so there is no "freedom of speech". This has always resulted in humans beings lying about the truth for personal gain at the expense of anyone with half a brain who's in their way. Or, you can have "freedom of speech". This has always resulted in everyone being able to check the facts and figure out the truth regardless of who's espousing that truth. Without "freedom of speech", all you have is Nazi Germany, the Khmer Rouge, Mao Zedong, etc., etc., etc.


ReligionisaCult   May 20th, 2010 1:10 pm ET

Most of these people would probably pitch a fit if Muslims did this to Jesus. Everyone needs to learn to respect the beliefs of others.


Bill Monroe   May 20th, 2010 1:11 pm ET

Bubba, did I say anything about Christianity being a good thing? The only thing "Christian" about most so-called Christians, is their self-image.


Sultan Ameer   May 20th, 2010 1:11 pm ET

This is simply racism not support to freedom of speech.


eric   May 20th, 2010 1:11 pm ET

draw muhammad day!!

i'm not much of an artist. kind of reminds me back when the swine flu (uh, i mean h1n1 epedemic) hit., and some of the pics that came out that! ha!

as i remember, they changed the name of the illness from "swine flu" to the h1n1 virus because it was offensive to.................pigs??

maybe islam can take that idea and run with it?? "swine flu" is now available?


Cindy   May 20th, 2010 1:11 pm ET

Cartman May 20th, 2010 12:31 pm ET

My drawing of Mohammed would be a blank piece of paper….

….because he does not exist.
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You're confusing Mohammed with Allah. Mohammad was a flesh and blood human being who existed from 570 – 632. He was the founder of the Islamic religion and the person they believe is the prophet. Allah (God) is the one who doesn't exist.


tareq asfour   May 20th, 2010 1:11 pm ET

Why are you going to boycott face book? Hun? It's an idiot whom created this on his own face book page. So if another idiot creates the same thing on MySpace, twitter, or another site you're going to boycott them too!! Well if that’s the case all of you should delete yourself from Face book all together.

Another Issue Islam is going to be attacked from all sides & who is to blame for that Is? We should be blamed the (new generation) whom have the power to educate other's whom are non-Muslims instead of listening to previous radical preaches teaching of the waahabi every time some moron comes out with way to insult our prophet(P.B.U.H). Come on everyone use your mind to educate & tell the stories, honestly they will listen!!! But if you approach a non-Muslim with anger, dismay, violence & show them within which is dark well you’re not even better than them. Islam is a beautiful belief but it's been hijacked by radical thinkers /preachers long ago whom painted a dark picture with non-Muslims & believers. Even Now Muslims countries whom live around Arabia are getting sick & tried of their waahabi ways it's making all Muslims look bad in the eyes of non-Muslims & believers. Honestly it’s our fault for all these problems because we have the power to change but we need to change ourselves first. I want the true Islam to come back not the waahabi ways which teaches radical preaching & anger with harm. Salam


ELITE   May 20th, 2010 1:12 pm ET

@mattmchuhg : Why do you love this idea? Just to see that you can join others and offend the muslims? Clearly drawing a smily face with beard and possibly a turban is not really fun by itself...


Juan   May 20th, 2010 1:12 pm ET

I think our Congress should make itself useful and make this a national holiday in the U.S.

Here is my drawing

: ] = Mohammad


Thomas Kurian   May 20th, 2010 1:13 pm ET

Muslims offend christians and jews all THE TIME. Koran says Jews are decendants of apes and pigs.

I am a christian from India. I have seen muslims offending christians by word, by action, by drawings and by all other means.

What do they have in special?


marcia   May 20th, 2010 1:13 pm ET

ReligiousCult...You are absolutely right!
Well put!


Jef   May 20th, 2010 1:13 pm ET

Take the illogicality, superiority infused, separatist dogma of all religion and add emotinal, stupid and small minded people and you have the reason hundreds of millions of people have died since earliest recorded history. Some people are just too stupid to see that it's the merry-go round they're on, not the earth spinning around them, that's making them sick.


Ed   May 20th, 2010 1:13 pm ET

"@ Mike... Christians(US army) has killed more innocent people in the past few years then any 'muslim' terrorist. Its all about perspective.."

What is this statement base on? Besides it being absurd for you to state that the numbers of "innocent people" killed by the US Army exceeds that killed by the Islamic Extremists and Taliban I would love to hear your definition of innocent.. You obiously are not a student of history nor have any actual experience in or near combat. People die in wars but the US military goes out of its way to spare civilians event to the point of accepting higher casualties to itself in some cases.


Bryan   May 20th, 2010 1:13 pm ET

@Diana

I wonder if an intolerant religion deserves any tolerance from anyone? I don't mean simply Islam, but ANY religion. I fail to understand why it is that we must all treat with any respect someone's belief in a fairytale. Would we extend the same respect to someone who fervently believes in Zeus? Or would we more likely scoff at this person because what he/she believes in is patently, demonstrably, false? Why is it that religion gets a free pass when it comes to justifying its central tenants? Further, why are we required, on pain of death, to take these beliefs as our own as is suggested in the Qur'an?


Mike   May 20th, 2010 1:14 pm ET

May 20th, 2010 1:10 pm ET

Most of these people would probably pitch a fit if Muslims did this to Jesus. Everyone needs to learn to respect the beliefs of others.
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Who says that the people showing contempt towards Islam have any more respect for Christianity? I dislike both, it's just that there haven't been many Christians going out of their way to bomb girls' schools lately.


CLMIKE   May 20th, 2010 1:14 pm ET

I posted my picture. It made fun of both Arizona, and Muhammad, tying together two current events into one cartoon.

For every bad comment I recieved, I recieved 10X's that amount in how creative and funny and actually non offensive it was.

I did laugh at a few of the hate mail. Their grasp on english was pretty crappy.


Sam   May 20th, 2010 1:15 pm ET

@ mike ". Their religion has killed so many people it's beyond comprehension. They deserve to be mocked and will continue to be mocked until the religion is understood by everyone to be the fairy tale it is and it's followers are no longer bombing and murdering people who disagree."
This comment shows how obtuse your thinking on this subject is. I could say the something about Christians and Jews, I could say the same thing about the United States, or Russia or China. You see were I am getting at. The case you are trying to make can be made for any group of people. BEZ with your comments and think before you write. The world is reading.


Juan   May 20th, 2010 1:15 pm ET

Hey, Sultan Ameer: since when are you Muslims a race? Last I heard you were a religous group. Stop playing the race card. You people can dish it out, but you can't take it. That's what we dislike about you the most.


Mr.Nill   May 20th, 2010 1:15 pm ET

Why would a muslim care about this?

These people who are making these drawings aren't muslim so why do people insist they act muslim?

I don't know what the purpose of this group actually is and i don't care but if a human can't take a pencil and draw another human on paper then there is something seriously wrong with us.


Swami   May 20th, 2010 1:16 pm ET

"" Freedom of Speech" is important but must have limitations. Nobody should disrespect any religious leader no matter what.""

Really Sara? And just who gets to define "Disrespect" for us? Or "Religious"? Or "Leader?" According to Jews, god gave Israel to them as their homeland. How about people like Jim Jones (the leader of the Guyana suicide cult). Do you respect that religious leader?

You can't draw a line around freedom and say "it's only okay when I say so" because people will disagree about where that line should be.


Mike   May 20th, 2010 1:16 pm ET

May 20th, 2010 1:07 pm ET

"You can destroy freedom as much by abusing it, as you can by taking it away." Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh
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Figures some medieval prince would say that. Yeah, abusing our right to speak out against a religion will destroy our freedom, like those Danish cartoonists' freedom to keep their lives.


Paul   May 20th, 2010 1:17 pm ET

How's this sound? My religious beleifs say it's ok to draw pictures of gods, so I will draw pictures of gods. If your religious views prohibit drawing pictures of gods, you will not draw pictures of gods. You follow your beliefs, and I will follow mine.

Please note, my religious views include keeping my head attached to my body, and all my blood on the inside. If your religion is ok with your head being detached, it's ok with me if you detach your own head, but mine stays where it is, with all the blood in it's current configuration, regardless of what I draw. If you don't like my drawings, you are free to draw anything you like in response, but don't pick up a sword or a gun to respond to what someone else does with a pencil or crayon.


I've.evolved.and.so.should.Muslims   May 20th, 2010 1:17 pm ET

My name says it all. The educated world came out of the dark ages centuries ago and so should Muslim's. Muslim's should spend less time praying and much more time educating yourselves. I am so glad my ancestor's came from Europe and not the middle east. Sadely, 200 years from now the rest of the world will have continued to evlove and most Muslims will still be where they are today: undereducated and beleiving in traditions which are centuries old and should have died and been buried long ago.


okhan   May 20th, 2010 1:17 pm ET

Why is everyone so hell bent on freedom of speech? This is NOT freedom of speech, this page was put up to get a rise out of Muslims. Its just a matter of common courtesy to respect others' beliefs. There is no such thing as absolute freedom of speech. If you really hated your boss, would you go tell him how much you hate him/her? Why not exercise your right to speak freely? Thats because we all know there will be consequences. Here the creators of the FB page know that there will be no consequences, so they went ahead and created the page. Stop abusing your right to speak freely!


ChazMagic   May 20th, 2010 1:17 pm ET

Uhm, get a clue, and maybe read a book. We Christians have murdered many more people in the name of our God than the Muslim faithful have or ever will. As our religion became a business, we learned to tone it down so as to grow the $. Perhaps the Muslim faithful will learn to do the same someday, and the world will become a more peaceful place.


semifreedom   May 20th, 2010 1:18 pm ET

To all who believe in "freedom of speech with limitations." Please move to another country where you will feel more comfortable. I am proud of this facebook page. It shows people aren't afraid of radical muslims who will threaten them for exercising their right as an American. If we allow censorship, all we are doing is starting on a long and slippery slope back to ancient customs. I don't need to take a step backwards in order to make way for a religious custom. That's what the freedom of religion is about. The freedom to practice whatever it is you do as long as you don't infringe on other's rights. Well, last I checked, drawing a picture about someone else's made up prophet doesn't infringe on anyone's rights here in America. I've see the spaghetti monster drawn to look like jesus. Does that offend me? No! Is it because I am not a loony religious fanatic who needs to express his beliefs onto others. Possibly. I don't respect any religion in the slightest when it infringes on my rights. Keep up the good work drawing mohammad. Religions are just acceptable cults. It's no different than the Ku Klux Klan or any other cult. Power in numbers for the weak minded. Spew your garbage out some other hole cuz the world can't handle much more of these lunatics (all religions. They're all the same.).


dmb   May 20th, 2010 1:18 pm ET

Islam is for idiots.


Mike   May 20th, 2010 1:18 pm ET

May 20th, 2010 1:11 pm ET

Cartman May 20th, 2010 12:31 pm ET

My drawing of Mohammed would be a blank piece of paper….

….because he does not exist.
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You're confusing Mohammed with Allah. Mohammad was a flesh and blood human being who existed from 570 – 632. He was the founder of the Islamic religion and the person they believe is the prophet. Allah (God) is the one who doesn't exist.
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Lol


Tan   May 20th, 2010 1:18 pm ET

How can people get sadistic pleasure when some one is feeling hurt? This is not a civilized way! It reflects on cheap upbringing and low values in society! Lets mature beyond this and enjoy a friendly dialogue with people of all faith!

Well, FACEBOOK is playing a cheap gimmick by encouraging this – understandable as it has immature-uneducated owners!


Nathan   May 20th, 2010 1:18 pm ET

@ JimmyFlimmy

Already been done refer to /b/ for your request.


ELITE   May 20th, 2010 1:20 pm ET

@ Ed: USA is responsible for the following in Afghanistan and Iraq (and partially in Pakistan):
Displacement, starvation, disease, exposure, lack of medical treatment, crime and lawlessness

Thats a 100000+ civilian lives taken because of Usama + Saddam + WMD


UallSUCK   May 20th, 2010 1:20 pm ET

Freedom of Speech sometimes shows how ignorant and immature a lot of people are. Just like they hide behind their religion you all are hiding behind Freedom of Speech. You might have the lawful right to insult people but you don't have the moral right too. I think when they made Freedom of Speech they didn't think America would become so immature. Grow up, you do not gain anything by insulting someone. How would you like them to draw our Soldiers being killed? Are poke fun at 9/11? Would that fall under Freedom of Speech or would it be too offensive. There would be an out cry if that was too happen. As there should be. My point is that to use Freedom of Speech should come with maturity. And mature people don't act like elementary kids on the playground picking on the fat kid.


ib42   May 20th, 2010 1:20 pm ET

If, as someone suggested, there was a 'draw Jesus day' anywhere, those offended would be free to protest without banning the site responsible, or killing anyone. Any one taking violent action would be a psychotic, and treated as one, not of the general population.
That is the key difference between 'us' and 'them'. Hate to put it that way, but how else does one draw the lined between reoligios freedom and theocracy?


Moose   May 20th, 2010 1:20 pm ET

It's always interesting to see people go crazy over religon. Ban religon and just maybe we'll see a peaceful world. Just like John Lenon said – Imagine no heaven and no hell...


Otis   May 20th, 2010 1:20 pm ET

I find it intriguing that Americans posting on this board are arguing that only their freedoms count on an international website.


Michael   May 20th, 2010 1:21 pm ET

And we wonder while the US has declined morally?? Sure...free speech is cool and all that....but when you have 80,000 people sign up to do something that they know will offend an entire segment of people?!?!...is just idiotic!?! In the end we will see what God thinks about people who mock the beliefs of others.


Mike   May 20th, 2010 1:21 pm ET

May 20th, 2010 1:18 pm ET

How can people get sadistic pleasure when some one is feeling hurt? This is not a civilized way! It reflects on cheap upbringing and low values in society! Lets mature beyond this and enjoy a friendly dialogue with people of all faith!
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Please, get out of the suburb and go visit Saudi Arabia. If you bring your girlfriend, kiss her in public and see what happens. I'm sure some religious police will come have a friendly dialogue with you. Then come say that we're being immature.


Sultan Ameer   May 20th, 2010 1:21 pm ET

Is Pakistan is the only muslim country in the world what happened to other muslim countries, did they suddenly become non-muslim, why these countries didn't take any action against this racist act, they have enough internet users that'll leave facebook executives with no choice except to just cancel those racist people's account.


Abdulla Hassan Salem   May 20th, 2010 1:21 pm ET

I am a Muslim, and I just saw a very good drawing of Mohamed on FaceBook.

Now, I plan to stop worshiping Allah and to spend my life praying to the drawing.

Thanks a lot, FaceBook! Drawing of Mohamed akbar!


Sammuel   May 20th, 2010 1:21 pm ET

You can draw pictures of the prophet.. And not get into trouble for it.
That should also mean that people can draw funny pictures of the holocaust and of jews getting it from the back side and not get into trouble either..

Also, according to some of you that say the prophet wasn't real or that he was a fairytale.. The holocaust didn't happene either, and jesus and mary are figments of your imagination.

Thanks for playing.


Mike   May 20th, 2010 1:22 pm ET

Wow, this is straight plagiarism ripped off the Fox News website who posted this report yesterday. A little behind the game CNN? If I were the DHS, CIA, FBI, etc. The Pro – Mohammed page is a great way to follow up on some extremists posting violent comments on Facebook. Facebook is a great source of open source intelligence.


okhan   May 20th, 2010 1:22 pm ET

@Thomas Kurian: Have you ever read the Quran? I have. Stop quoting if you don't know whats in it.


marcl3980   May 20th, 2010 1:22 pm ET

This protest isn't about religion, it's about not compromising on our freedoms even in the face of death. If you are offended then be offended. Talk about my mom in a derogatory way. Sure I'll be offended, but that doesn't give me the right to kill someone, does it? Or should it be illegal to say bad things about my mom?


Alex NJ   May 20th, 2010 1:22 pm ET

The difference between drawing Mohammed and Jesus is that while there maybe verbal backlash for someone portraying Jesus is an offensive manner, no one would be killed over it. I realize most Muslims aren't radical, but the only voices I'm hearing are those who are radical. Maybe its just the media I am not sure, but from what I can see, as a religion, the Muslims of the world really need to get their act together.


me   May 20th, 2010 1:22 pm ET

what losers would join the "against drawing the prophet muhammed" group. That is seriously lame.


Mike   May 20th, 2010 1:23 pm ET

May 20th, 2010 1:21 pm ET

Is Pakistan is the only muslim country in the world what happened to other muslim countries, did they suddenly become non-muslim, why these countries didn't take any action against this racist act, they have enough internet users that'll leave facebook executives with no choice except to just cancel those racist people's account.
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Why are you on here? Isn't there some unmarried girl in your neighborhood talking to an unmarried man in public that you need to throw in jail?


Sarah   May 20th, 2010 1:23 pm ET

Islam dictates that its followers should not depict Mohammed – fine. But I'm not a Muslim, and I'll draw whatever I want. I've never drawn a picture of Mohammed and I don't really care to but I think its ridiculous that anyone would object so vehemently to it if I did. I think that the creators of this facebook group were simply trying to make a point. You can't expect people with different beliefs to adhere to your religion's teachings. If Islam is right then these people will go to hell – cool, whatever but for the life of me I can't understand why some religious fanatic would think its his job to expedite the process and murder a cartoonist.

UTN1 says "No one has the right to disrespect religion who ever u r." That's completely absurd. Everyone has the right to follow whatever religion they choose or follow none at all. If Muslims and Christians have the right to proselytize their faith (and they do) then equally I have the right to express my beliefs. I happen to be atheist therefore expressing my beliefs inherently means criticizing religion and that's what I will do. Naturally you might not understand what I'm saying because you don't want to, but I DO have the right to criticize religion...and so does everyone else. If we can debate climate change, war, gay marriage, and abortion, we can certainly debate religion when most of the world allows it dictate how they live their lives.


Kaycue   May 20th, 2010 1:23 pm ET

Its interesting to see many ppl saying Moslems have killed so many in the name of religion. Lets count that number and see how it compares to the numbers killed in the name of "democracy" since 2001. I'm sure that would compare to a days worth of carpert bombing done in Afghanistan

Mocking anyones religious beliefs isn't freedom of speech. Thats downright insult and violation of someones basic human rights. Facebook should be sued for not taking any action


Mr.Nill   May 20th, 2010 1:23 pm ET

In the end we will see what God thinks about people who mock the beliefs of others.

god is dead.


DW   May 20th, 2010 1:24 pm ET

I guess if people want to provoke hatried and terrorist bombings, then this is the way to do it yes? Blah, blah, freedom of speech and all that. If the Muslims don't want us to create images of Mohammed, then we should respect that. lol – I wonder if anybody is posting funny pictures of 911?


citbob   May 20th, 2010 1:24 pm ET

Separation of church and state, that's what this is about and why we should be able to say what we want about mohommed, or draw him. Islamic law has no place in the US or any other truly "free" nation. Islamic law will never have a place in the US, if it tries, stand by MFers.


American Idol   May 20th, 2010 1:24 pm ET

It seems to me that Mohammed has already been idolized to the full extent and that is why these crazy Muslims would kill a human just because someone drew a picture of the guy. You can't idolize a person more than that ! These Muslim radicals are losers as the more they cry about the these drawings the worse they make it and people will exploit the situation. If they just shut up and ignored it, people will get bored and leave it alone. They seem to bring the problems on themselves and blame everyone else for their problems. Kind of like what little kids do.


charles   May 20th, 2010 1:25 pm ET

Muslims who don't believe in free speech should create their own Facebook. Call it Burkabook.


Chris the Truth   May 20th, 2010 1:25 pm ET

Great, how about we post these drawings on al-Jazerras's website, some hacker should be able to do that right? I am tired of this religious BS being used to kill people and spread hate. Well guess what, I'm going to spread hate for religion (ironic)? It seems to be the only way to save us.


Mike   May 20th, 2010 1:25 pm ET

May 20th, 2010 1:22 pm ET

what losers would join the "against drawing the prophet muhammed" group. That is seriously lame.
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The kind of lame people that get upset when women are stoned to death for "dishonoring" their family. The losers who think that bombing orphanages in the name of Allah isn't cool.


pebbles   May 20th, 2010 1:25 pm ET

FreedomORDie said..

We must fight against ALL cencorship when it comes to freedom or religion or the freedom to criticize religion. There is no place for any cencorship for a belief. We must allow people to have the freedom to believe what they want but we must NOT be censored when criticizing beliefs. Criticizing beliefs is one of the major steps towards progress and this MUST be preserved EVEN if it means lawsuits etc.

^^^ if that is the case then we should not be censored when someone is debating about holocaust.... ? But what we see is the opposite... it seems that this is not about freedom but about forcing your opinions on others.


rita   May 20th, 2010 1:25 pm ET

Thank you for the opportunity to excercise my freedom of speech. I do not understand why Muslims have a problem with free speech. They hate Jesus and vow to destroy who they perceive as infidels. Well Jesus can take the criticism. He loved them anyway. He loved them so much he died for them. Only Jesus offers heaven freely. You do not earn your way there, simply choose to accept his free gift of salvation. So what is there to hate? And why so defensive? Jesus can take care of himself. Mohammed can't?


Jason   May 20th, 2010 1:25 pm ET

Come on people. This is a showing of force against censorship. If a Muslim says I can't draw his profit because of his beliefs, can I turn around and say he can't oppress women because of my beliefs? NO! I support Draw Muhammad Day because it's fighting back against Zealots who threaten violence and death because I'm not following THEIR religious dogma. Can a Jew make a rule that no one can use electronics on Sunday because it's against his religion? Do we all have to follow that rule so he's not offended? NO! If you have stupid non-sense rules, feel free to follow them yourself but don't expect the world to do the same. Your religion's rules mean squat to me and the rest of the world so keep them to yourself.


L Kurt Engelhart   May 20th, 2010 1:25 pm ET

When people can commit real violence upon others for the crime of perceived virtual violence, the whole system of justice will come down.


The Truth   May 20th, 2010 1:26 pm ET

What people need to realize, is that we Americans have Freedom of Speech, in America. Many other countries around the world do not subscribe to this idea, such as China. The idea of individuals having freedoms is literally foreign to them. The Islamic countries are primarily countries based on religion. Everything they do in their government and daily life revolves around their religion. They do not believe in Freedom, because they are held captive by their religion/government. So, in America, it is o.k. to say what we want, and we are protected by our government. There is no NEED to be disrespectful, but we CAN be if we want... we have that freedom. Of course, when we visit another country we have to follow their rules, which in some countries means not having freedom of speech. So, we can't say it's ok to go to an Islamic country and disrespect the M man, but we CAN do it here. If they don't like it and start attacking us here for it, well..., that's why God created war. Peace out.


Will   May 20th, 2010 1:26 pm ET

This is so totally disrespectful. There are over a billion Muslims in the world. If others know depicting an image of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is insulting to this group of people why would you fan the flames so to speak? I understand that there is the right to free speech in this country but is it worth doing so when you are offending the values of others? FYI, I am not a Muslim. I am a Christian and as a Christian I believe this is going way over the line.

Will


semifreedom   May 20th, 2010 1:27 pm ET

@Tan Immature huh? Uneducated huh? Doesn't it hurt your pride to know that a child monkey has generated one of the largest followings on this planet? Your comment is sadly much more immature and uneducated. Facebook is being logical and realistic. If you censor something as simple as this you are not being very realistic. Do you know how many different pages are on Facebook and could be offensive to some groups? This page was simply done to show we will not be afraid of fanatical muslims who can't handle a joke. I am happy to know I could start a page today that is to make fun of a religion. Make fun of them all. Who cares. If you truely believe in your religion you should know your "god" can handle it. If you are uncomfortable I'd say you are questioning your "faith." I have faith in a few intelligent people that won't allow any religion to take away my right as an American. If you don't like this then please, by all means, move some place that will more accommodate your needs.


okhan   May 20th, 2010 1:27 pm ET

@semifreedom: Why dont you move to another country...what have you done that gives you the right to be in this country?? Just being born here does not make you special.


Cartman   May 20th, 2010 1:27 pm ET

RE: Cindy @ May 20th, 2010 1:11 pm ET

You are absolutly correct. I realized it and corrected myself here: May 20th, 2010 12:46 pm ET

Thanks :)

THERE IS NO ALLAH


Yas   May 20th, 2010 1:27 pm ET

@charles, haha I'm a Muslim but I actually thought that was funny. Nice one.


nana   May 20th, 2010 1:28 pm ET

Just create a

" DRAW JESUS DAY"
"DRAW Buddha day"
"Draw Hindu gods" day and so on so forth ..................

for one whole week.................


rehan   May 20th, 2010 1:28 pm ET

Well, I support freedom of speech, but guys, there are more topics to be discussed than to discuss our dear prophet Muhammad (PBUH). You will also accept that there are terrorist activities before 9/11, but media never mentioned that during that era, no Muslim was named as terrorist. It was after 9/11 that perceptions about Muslims is changed. I admit that majority of events unfortunately involved Muslim as terrorists. Its really shameful, but you must also agree that their are other groups in world who r doing terrorism. I will not mention here, try to be smart and search yourself on wiki list of militants and terrorist sites. At least you can believe on wiki, its ur own product, we Muslims are not fabricating info over there :).

So point was that Y draw Muhammad is so important for the Muslims and in reaction, for the drawers? If you considered us illiterate, ignorants, then y r u showing ur illiteracy by drawing such depictions. You can only enjoy the panic, and when some extremist will attack one of the drawer, the media will propagate the issue and many non Muslim will just think that Islam is full of terrorism. That's so much shameful for literate people. I mean put aside the atheists; even i saw Jews, Christians etc participating in it. We share your prophets you share overs, except Muhammad. At least we have some thing common, but still you allowed yourself to be played by handful of ppl exploiting Islam. Its exactly feels like when a Muslim is scolded due to the handful extremist n terrorists. In Pakistan, we r fighting with terrorism, n believe me 99% Pakistanis will never like to lose their beloved ones in bomb blasts, just like u will never want.

You know, and i know, that banning such sites will not stop those hate-filled morons. Its a foolish act of Govt of Pakistan and i condemn it. Internet is very vast, fast expanding and full of knowledge resources. Blocking sites like Wikipedia, you tube will not do the purpose. You will lately see that they will restore those sites.

I want to quote elinas May 20th, 2010 12:34 pm ET

"please read this article by renowned Montreal physician Emil Sherif.
you will see the true face of Islam !!!

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Tolerating+intolerant/2736040/story.html"

I feel deep sorrow, its really inhuman, however, i can also give you thousands of such pics and videos and articles expressing state violence against Muslims too. You may have too such numberless articles, but point is that, i never killed any non-Muslim, you never killed any Muslim. Killers are few people who have either lust for money or they are state owned. Any way, its an unforgivable act of inhumanity. :(

I also want to quote Ms. Monica, May 20th, 2010 12:36 pm ET

"Freedom of Speech has nothing to do with hurting someone's feelings. It is the FREEDOM TO EXPRESS YOURSELF HOWEVER YOU SEE FIT......regardless if you find it offensive or if it hurts your feelings"

So i agree to this statement, so if some one in-front of you make statements for ur mom, your daughter your father or any loved one, it will not harm you because he believe and u believe in freedom of speech. Right!? Come'on people, Islamic terrorists are handful, and depiction drawers are handful, y r you supporting them , believe me it will cause no effect on terrorism, besides you might provide terrorist a chance to attack yourself, please try to understand.

By the way, we are very literate, very moderate people who never harmed any of you, and will not u ever coz Islam never told us to do so unless you harm us, its like allowed in self defense which should be legal for u too. terrorist defame Islamic values, n r never allowed on any platform to do/continue their inhuman activities

If you do believe in freedom of speech, please have a look at Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, African countries, their people are dying due to international terrorism by G8 countries. You can find good topics to discuss, search history, get facts from wiki, wiki is urs, not ours.

In a nutshell, not every Muslim is terrorist, nor he supports terrorism, not every non-Muslim aka infidel defame Muslims, nor he has nothing to conflict with us, nor he wanted to do so, there are some black sheep every where and they always exploits us. Try to listen our voice please before flowing with the situation. I hate terrorism, every moderate Muslim hate terrorism, we hate Bin Laden, we hate all killing agencies, whether backed by government or any one.

Best of luck, and stay happy 4 ever, please try to meet few Muslims in person before making your mind based on media reports and events, they r just like you.


SME   May 20th, 2010 1:28 pm ET

Real smart…fire up the radical Muslims…as if they need help getting bent out of shape. There are a lot of issues here though. Although I believe that this page was set up to be more about poking fun at the Muslim religion rather than an attempt at free speech, as an American I cherish free speech, so I believe that this page should not be blocked. But as a Roman Catholic, who would be upset at a “draw Jesus page,” I am sympathetic to those of Muslim faith. But, while I would be upset if it were about Jesus I would not be looking to kill anyone over it. My take on this: although it’s childish and insensitive, we should not foresake free speech, but Muslims need to come out of the dark ages and prove to us that their religion is not one of violence by getting with the times and stopping all the talk of death to the infidels…it doesn’t help your cause. Who ever thought about this FB page – it’s bad for everybody…sad.


peacenlove   May 20th, 2010 1:28 pm ET

as a muslim, I'm not as upset about people disrespecting prophet mohammed, even during his life time he dealt with people disrespecting him, threatning him, and mistreating him. the same goes for every prophet who ever came before him, Jeses, Moses, Abraham, Noah, etc. They all faced this type of behavior from people during their lives. In our time now, people live just to see how much they can offend and upset other people who are different than them. Think about it, the admin of the draw mohammed cartoon, took time out his/her life to create such a group, and promote it. instead of sitting there and figuring out ways to improve things, they found a way to spread more anger and hatered. In response to this, some fanatical group will issue a fatwa on their head, and who knows may actually make an attempt at the admins life. is it worth it for the admin to risk their life over this?? if so, by all means, please go ahead and do it again, eventually it will catch up to you and someone might be successful in doing so. Freedom of speech is a right for every individual on earth, however, religious people of all faiths have to face seeing their religion and beliefs be offended. people mock conservative christians, jews, hindus, etc. These people are just supposed to sit there and take it because some moron with no beliefs or morals wants to use their religious as a joke?


NOcensoring   May 20th, 2010 1:28 pm ET

~~~~~~
| – – | = mohamed
\ :–: /
Either no religious figures can be depicted or all of them. One religion is no better than the other and all should be subject to criticism. If it offends you, then say a prayer to your "god" to give you self control over your irrational anger and resist the urge to use violence to show your disagreement.


An eye for an eye   May 20th, 2010 1:28 pm ET

Muhammed = False Prophet.


/b/man   May 20th, 2010 1:29 pm ET

Facebook isn't the source of this...I lol at the thought that Facebook actually can get anything real accomplished.


Bob   May 20th, 2010 1:29 pm ET

It seems to me that Jesus Christ takes on the brunt of the focus when it comes to portrayal- be it innocent or intentionally hateful. But that doesn't mean that I am going to start drawing someone else's deity whether I accept the existence of that deity or not. I am reminded of the apostle Paul talking about food sacrificed to Idols. At one time it was forbidden to eat food sacrificed to any idol – when in reality that food wouldn't hurt you and it wasn't wrong in the eyes of God. But since others might take the wrong impression of Christians seen eating that meat, Paul said that he would not eat meat sacrificed to idols – because he didn't want to create a barrier between non-christians and God – even if that barrier would be based on false info. The point is, if we agree or not with Islam, the only thing we create in depicting their prophet knowing that it is against their own belief, all we create is a barrier and possible negativity. Sure we have the "freedom" to do it, but does that mean we SHOULD? As a Christian, I should be more concerned with how I affect the opinion of Christ with my actions. Do I glorify my own God by exercising my freedom to do something that is likely to offend someone else that believes differently than me? No I do not.


Mr.Nill   May 20th, 2010 1:29 pm ET

Prophet is another name for a con artist.


Ed   May 20th, 2010 1:30 pm ET

back to elite, and don't forget to throw in that the US is responsible for HIV, bad weather and body odor. That is fallacious logic.

To the subject at hand, the event that kicked off this sorry spectacle occured in Europe not the US. So the wholier than thou ROW's out there who like to critize the Americans on this thread keep that in mind.

People who draw on the Facebook site need to ask themselves why they are drawing what they draw. It is imporatant that people be able to express themselves and that is the greater good. It is individuals who choose to abuse that right by deliberatley insulting the religion of others and hide under the guise of free speech. Certainly they should not be killed for it but when you step on the feelings of others you better expect a reaction.


J.Crobuzon   May 20th, 2010 1:30 pm ET

Let's just break this down: are you trying to honor the Christian religion by insulting Islam? Because I don't think Christ would be drawing nasty little pictures of anyone, and He probably would be disappointed that you are doing this with hatred in your hearts. Must I keep reminding you that the radicals want you to dump the ethics and morals of what they see as your 'false religion' and adopt theirs in its place? Don't make it easy on them. Stick to your values.


Moooohamed Meatspin   May 20th, 2010 1:30 pm ET

Islam, we are a religion of peace! And we'll kill you to prove it! We don't like pictures of our child molesting false profit, and will target for death anyone who does.


Asad   May 20th, 2010 1:31 pm ET

I am a Muslim who thinks a lot of fellow Muslims are over-reacting. I base my premise on Islamic principles.

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was ridiculed, taunted, slandered and mocked by non-Muslims for most of the 23 years that he preached God's message. Yet, not for a single instance, did he threaten, retaliate, kill, or answer back for any attack on his personality. He ignored the attacks and their perpetrators, and instead focused on delivering God's message to humanity, just as Jesus (peace be upon him) did several hundred years before him. Muslims are required to follow the example of Prophet Muhammad. This is the example we should follow.

God created human beings with free choice, and no one has the right to take that away. My brothers and sisters in humanity: you have every right to express yourselves freely. So go ahead and express yourselves however you like. We are at peace with you.


Chris   May 20th, 2010 1:31 pm ET

@Person.... Newsflash... They DO NOT respect your customs. Wake up.


Jeff P   May 20th, 2010 1:31 pm ET

@okhan

"Here the creators of the FB page know that there will be no consequences, so they went ahead and created the page. Stop abusing your right to speak freely!"

No consequences? REALLY? I think the threatened consequences were the catalyst for this page in protest. With Islam, EVERYTHING is 'consequences'. Even if you aren't Islamic, you will face Islamic consequences. That's not happening and will never happen in the United States, my friend.


shoaib aijaz   May 20th, 2010 1:32 pm ET

i think as soon as possible the whole world will see what will happen to them after creating this page . i think they forgot what happened to the editors of denmark and how they die ? what a great loss in present world and in judgement day . t think there religious taught them to do this discusting things .


Humen   May 20th, 2010 1:32 pm ET

Dear Christians. You need to read some history. Christianity has plenty of murder, infanticide, abuse of women and hate. It's an improvement to see that you are more discriminating now, like focusing on doctors that perform abortions and manipulating politicians with fear tactics, but you have nothing to proud of.


Iffo   May 20th, 2010 1:32 pm ET

Why is it so hard for people to understand that, ITS THE RESPECT of the prophet PBUH, freedom of speech is not in insulting religious beliefs or by insulting such an important figure of our religion. Freedom of speech doesnot allow anyone to talk nonsense about anyone's religion..... facebook can ban or remove pages of racism but will allow this particular page to create hatred and anger among muslims.... its not a small issue, its huge for muslims, we donot disrespect anyone and hope to expect the same. Try and understand, Muhammad PBUH, is everything to us, we cannot see what is happening and since FB has not removed the page and infact taken no action i will be deactivating my account midnight. and i hope many more freinds muslims or non muslims both do the same.... i cannot even think about offending any other religion because Islam is against this, ISlam doesnot allow any muslim to be disrespectful about any other religion,
open your eyes please..... its not freedom of speech, its disrespecting muslims beliefs INTENTIONALY


Sayitisso   May 20th, 2010 1:33 pm ET

Anything we do in life should be constructive. This whole thing is very immature. As a muslim it makes me mad but at the same time feel sorry for the immaturity. The people who purposelfully want to offend let me tell you one thing you are actually helping muslims. You are diluting the effect and soon muslims will learn to look the other way. Who will be there to offend then?


semifreedom   May 20th, 2010 1:33 pm ET

I have a right to live here as any other American. I don't question my rights and I don't abuse them. If you can't handle the rights given to others in this country then leave.


DarthVader   May 20th, 2010 1:34 pm ET

Death to mohammed and his pedophile cult.


matthew   May 20th, 2010 1:34 pm ET

If muslims hadn't killed non muslims for drawing their prophet and tried to force their belief that drawing their prophet is wrong on the rest of the world, this would never have happened. All we are trying to say here is that we are not muslim, we do not have to live by their religious laws. We are guaranteed the freedom of speech in this country, and as the creators of South Park said...either all of it's okay to make fun of, or none of it is. Oh, go and check out the episode call "The Super Best Friends" Mohammad is in the episode quite a bit. When it came out it wasn't censored, no one was offended, no one even cared.


Score   May 20th, 2010 1:34 pm ET

(@|@)
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Does it matter if he's smiling?


TRex   May 20th, 2010 1:34 pm ET

Look, I find this insulting to Muslims. The freedom of speech is there but there is no need to turn it into freedom to offend. That is just load of bull!


semifreedom   May 20th, 2010 1:34 pm ET

@ohkan what have you done that is so special to question me?


Mike   May 20th, 2010 1:35 pm ET

May 20th, 2010 1:25 pm ET

When people can commit real violence upon others for the crime of perceived virtual violence, the whole system of justice will come down.
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I guess you mean come down on the perpetrator? Absolutely.


Liam   May 20th, 2010 1:35 pm ET

Draw a picture of Mohammed? No, and neither do I wipe my rear end with the Torah, pee on the bible or throw rocks at statues of The Buddha. Why do these things? Just to show that your right to offend people is more important than their beliefs? That's REALLY childish. I don't necessarily believe in any of these things, but I do believe that I should respect these beliefs with the same reverence that I would have others respect mine .


dawn   May 20th, 2010 1:36 pm ET

I think we should be respectful of Muslim people. I would want the same for Christianity.


Iffo   May 20th, 2010 1:36 pm ET

and yes PROPHET MUHAMMAD P.B.U.H said the stongest of you all is the one who can control his /her anger..... one should try to read the personality of Prophet MUhammad first before even trying to do such a thing, and the person who created this page wants publicity for herself and nothing else,


Freedomtohate   May 20th, 2010 1:36 pm ET

we should have a touch the priest day, in honor of christianity, we all go out and molest people, and in honor of jews we have a Hail hitler day, and in honor of hindus we all go to McDonalds but big beef hamburgers and go standout side a temple and eat them and at the end of the day we all draw mohammed cartoons. This way we can all offend everyone together and express our freedoms of speech, who cares if all these people are offended, its more important that we have right freedom to disprect and make fun of people, instead of showing descreny and civilty.


Mark   May 20th, 2010 1:37 pm ET

I made a picture of mohammed this morning in the toilet before I flushed it away.


Johnny D   May 20th, 2010 1:37 pm ET

So are the Muslims going to protest when South Park does a skit about the new Miss America too? Scr@w these terrorists.


zakir   May 20th, 2010 1:37 pm ET

how would you like it if we teased your religion


James in Canada   May 20th, 2010 1:37 pm ET

I drew a picture of Mohammed for this site – it was respectful – he was just mowing the lawn with a smile, having a groovy time. Within minutes, I started getting messages pouring in from angry Muslims telling me to take it down. I did not know any of these people, but apparently they've been trolling this facebook page so they can object to a cartoon the moment it is uploaded. Their objections quickly turned to death threats, which I have kept in the event that anything comes from them. Despite threats of violence, I encourage people to continue drawing the prophet in a respectful manor. To draw a crude picture of him diminishes the message behind this important fight against censorship in my opinion.


Bob   May 20th, 2010 1:37 pm ET

Just goes to show that Pakistan isn't on our side – they are clearly on the side of radical jihadi Islam. None of these people can take a joke. They are completely brainwashed from their youth in madrassas. Just drawing a picture of Mohammed inflames these people beyond reason. All they want to do then is to kill infidels


DM   May 20th, 2010 1:37 pm ET

I think it's great. The message should be loud and clear that threatening to kill people for not following your belief system is insane and completely unacceptable.


J.Crobuzon   May 20th, 2010 1:38 pm ET

"shoaib aijaz" – If these fools are attacked, they will smile and say "See, Islam is BAD." Ignore them like the children they seem to be.


Daniel D   May 20th, 2010 1:38 pm ET

I am offended by the Right to Life people when they protest Planned Parenthood and I usually flip them off...BUT it is their right to do so and my right to disagree with them. I also am offended by those who protest at Veteran funerals...BUT it is in their rights to do so. I'm going to break out my crayons after work and draw me up a prohpet..Because it is my right to do so...and just as I'd like to kick somebody's ass for protesting a funeral of an AIDS victim, it is your right to come and kick my ass too.


Mike   May 20th, 2010 1:38 pm ET

May 20th, 2010 1:32 pm ET

Dear Christians. You need to read some history. Christianity has plenty of murder, infanticide, abuse of women and hate. It's an improvement to see that you are more discriminating now, like focusing on doctors that perform abortions and manipulating politicians with fear tactics, but you have nothing to proud of.
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Who says those insulting Islam are Christians?

Jesus = Mohammad = Ra= Zeus = Jim Jones = All False Prophets


Ayesha   May 20th, 2010 1:40 pm ET

I am a muslim, I beleive in freedom of speech. Caz it is imp specially for some ppl who have no clue what they are talking about. (@: Papagino May 20th, 2010 12:18 pm ET
Ahh, the peaceful religion of Islam. Join us or we will cut your head off. We can blow you up, but you can't poke fun at our child molesting, woman abusing prophet.) Most of the serial killers in the history of America are christians, I am sure that make all christians human haters. Only then you can say a few radicals killing in the name of Islam dictate what Islam is all about.

It may sound like a good idea to have a "Draw Jesus Day" but I am sorry I dont agree with that, caz I respect him as much as I respect Prophet Muhammad P.b.u.h

and just caz some ppl have no clue wht they are doing I dont think we should stoop to their level.

@ Facebook: How is drawing muhammad day not offensive to Islam. It is against Islams primary beleifs. You are asking ppl to come join hands against Islam, and it shouldn't be offensive I dont see how.


Fred Garvin   May 20th, 2010 1:40 pm ET

Islam is not a religion. It's a political movement disguised as religion with the intent to kill all Jews, Christians and non-believers in their pursuit of world domination. World War III will be against Islam.


An Atheist, oh no!   May 20th, 2010 1:40 pm ET

May 20th, 2010 1:37 pm ET

how would you like it if we teased your religion
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Muslims are too busy bombing and beheading people of other religions for teasing to raise any eyebrows.


Rony   May 20th, 2010 1:40 pm ET

Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Jainism, and many other religions are made fun of every day. However, you don't see adherents to these religions threatening mass populations and waging war. It is because these religions have a strong foundation, and they cannot be shaken easily by a few nameless idiots. Although Islam is a large religion, any comment on the foundation or basis of the religion is met with a swift call for attacks and retribution. The creators of the FB page are wrong in doing so, because they are offending many peaceful Muslims, but in order for Islam to progress, the radical elements of the religion must be cut off.


OLB   May 20th, 2010 1:42 pm ET

As a Christian service member who has served in the Middle East, it aches me to see so many that are supporting this immature and inciteful campaign. Are you guys really serious? How many of you have ever met a muslim, much less taken the time to learn about their religion?

I believe that "freedom of speech" carries with it a responsibility to act maturely and with restraint to prevent incitement - a principle obviously lost on the mis-guided folks that devised the "Draw Mohamed day". Whether you are Muslim, Christian, Atheist or Buddhist this principle applies and is timeless.

Friends, there are a certain things that are sacred in all religious belief systems (including Christianity) - drawing Mohamed just happens to be one of the most sacred for the second largest religion on the planet.

Also, understand that by supporting this event you are undermining the efforts of so many Americans (i.e. diplomats, service members etc) who strive for reconciliation and peace. The Muslim folks that threatened South Park are certainly no better and should be condemned, but why should we stoop to that level? C’mon guys, we’re not in 4th grade anymore.

Realize that with this campaign, you have offended most muslim Americans, not to mention our muslim friends and allies living abroad.

So on behalf of our service members, diplomats and non-profits personnel on the frontlines in Iraq and Afghanistan trying to build partnership and peace in muslim lands "thanks for making our jobs just that much harder!". BTW – if you're really serious about "protecting our freedoms", the armed forces are still recruiting.


Dhulfiqar   May 20th, 2010 1:43 pm ET

It's not about freedom of speech. It's about Bashing Muslims.

In the 1960s If white americans started drawing pictures and insutling caricatures of Martin Luther King Jr. "Draw MLK Day!" How would the African Americans respond?

And how would history classify those that belittled the character of MLK? Racist Bigots?

Well guess what? In 10-15 years from now, the US History books will classify you guys has Racist Bigots. Is that how you want your grandchildren to remember you as?

-Dhulfiqar


joe   May 20th, 2010 1:43 pm ET

Offensive? Brutality and murder are offensive. Draw to your heart's content.


Doug Marsh   May 20th, 2010 1:43 pm ET

I try to respect all religions and I think people should be free to follow any religion they want. What I do not understand is why Muslims think they have the right to impose their religious restrictions on me? I'm not a Muslim. I don't choose to follow Islam. So what gives Muslims the right to tell me what to draw and what not to draw? I respect their right not to portray their prophet, but I draw the line at them telling me what to do or not to do based on their religious beliefs.


marcl3980   May 20th, 2010 1:43 pm ET

Liam, you are really missing the point of this protest. And a lot of religious nuts don't respect your beliefs. They'll tell you you'll burn in hell. Religion in general seems to be used to bring people together to fight against and judge another group. It's all brain washing for the sake of controlling the masses. Even the pope doesn't believe in God. Unless he thinks God wants him to hide child molesters.


Moooohamed Meatspin   May 20th, 2010 1:43 pm ET

What maddens Muslims for now, in the West, is that they should rule, they should be on top, and until that happens, they will grow increasingly furious and deadly


heyimjason   May 20th, 2010 1:44 pm ET

@sadaat sethi – you ask why? It's because we have the right to. If it's ok to draw Jesus, or Buddha, or Zeus, it should be ok to draw your prophet. We have the right to. And most people wouldn't be doing this currently, if it weren't for the way that certain Muslims have handled this situation before – threatening violence and death, and frankly, acting like big crybabies.


mike   May 20th, 2010 1:44 pm ET

ENOUGH with being politically correct.


Jean V   May 20th, 2010 1:44 pm ET

I love this. Anyone who writes, "Freedom of speech is fine, but must be limited to inoffensive speech" has NO IDEA what the words "freedom of speech" actually mean!

Of COURSE the cornerstone of freedom of speech is protecting "offensive" speech. Anything and everything said is going to offend someone, somewhere, somehow.

I may not LIKE it if someone calls me an ugly fat pig, but I'll fight to the death to defend their RIGHT to call me an ugly fat pig. Of course it's rude. Of course it's offensive and unkind. So what? I'm an adult and I can take it. What I cannot take is living in a world where censors get to tell ME what I can and cannot say about religion, politics, or any other topic that comes to mind.

Anyone who doesn't understand that our duty to defend freedom of speech BEGINS with offensive speech doesn't deserve to call themselves an American. It's easy to defend inoffensive speech. The blood of our ancestors was shed defending our right to offend kings, presidents, and oppressive neighbors.


Moooohamed Meatspin   May 20th, 2010 1:45 pm ET

All right! all right! all right! I will confess. ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF PIECE. Piece of hand, piece of foot, piece of head, Etc, etc. Anyone else make the same confession?


semifreedom   May 20th, 2010 1:46 pm ET

@okhan no one is saying there aren't consequences for your actions. The website is to point out that while drawing a religious icon may offend others, it is no reason to kill. Quit trolling and trying to get a rise out of others. You are the only one infringing on others rights when you don't allow opinions to be had. Don't tell others how they can use their right to freedom of speech. Who do you think you are to be able to make a statement like that? If you get so easily offended, then prepare to be made fun of for the rest of your life. If you don't take things so serisously maybe you will have more friends. Who knows?


AJ   May 20th, 2010 1:46 pm ET

Science (from the Latin scientia, meaning "knowledge") is a systematic enterprise of gathering knowledge about the world and organizing and condensing that knowledge into testable laws and theories.[1] As knowledge has increased, some methods have proved more reliable than others, and today the scientific method is the standard for science. It includes the use of careful observation, experiment, measurement, mathematics, and replication — to be considered a science, a body of knowledge must stand up to repeated testing by independent observers. The use of the scientific method to make new discoveries is called scientific research, and the people who carry out this research are called scientists.[2][3] This article focuses on science in the more restricted sense, what is sometimes called experimental science. Applied science, or engineering, is the practical application of scientific knowledge.

A scientific hypothesis is an educated guess about the nature of the universe, a scientific theory is a hypothesis which has been confirmed by repeated observation and measurement. Scientific theories are usually given mathematical form, and are always subject to refutation if future experiments contradict them.

In the modern world, scientific research is a major activity in all developed nations, and scientists are expected to publish their discoveries in refereed journals, scientific periodicals where referees check the facts in an article before it is published. Even after publication, new scientific ideas are not generally accepted until the work has been replicated.

Scientific literacy is the ability of the general population to understand the basic concepts related to science.
Basic classifications
Scientific fields are commonly divided into two major groups: natural sciences, which study natural phenomena (including biological life), and social sciences, which study human behavior and societies. These groupings are empirical sciences, which means the knowledge must be based on observable phenomena and capable of being tested for its validity by other researchers working under the same conditions.[3] There are also related disciplines that are grouped into interdisciplinary and applied sciences, such as engineering and health science. Within these categories are specialized scientific fields that can include elements of other scientific disciplines but often possess their own terminology and body of expertise.[4]

Mathematics, which is classified as a formal science, has both similarities and differences with the natural and social sciences. It is similar to empirical sciences in that it involves an objective, careful and systematic study of an area of knowledge; it is different because of its method of verifying its knowledge, using a priori rather than empirical methods.[3] Formal science, which also includes statistics and logic, is vital to the empirical sciences. Major advances in formal science have often led to major advances in the empirical sciences. The formal sciences are essential in the formation of hypotheses, theories, and laws,[3] both in discovering and describing how things work (natural sciences) and how people think and act (social sciences).
The word "science" comes through the Old French, and is derived in turn from the Latin scientia, "knowledge", the nominal form of the verb scire, "to know". The Proto-Indo-European (PIE) root that yields scire is *skei-, meaning to "cut, separate, or discern".[6] Similarly, the Greek word for science is 'επιστήμη', deriving from the verb 'επίσταμαι', 'to know'. From the Middle Ages to the Enlightenment, science or scientia meant any systematic recorded knowledge.[7] Science therefore had the same sort of very broad meaning that philosophy had at that time. In other languages, including French, Spanish, Portuguese, and Italian, the word corresponding to science also carries this meaning.

Prior to the 1700s, the preferred term for the study of nature was natural philosophy, while English speakers most typically referred to other philosophical disciplines (such as logic, metaphysics, epistemology, ethics and aesthetics) as moral philosophy. Today, "moral philosophy" is more-or-less synonymous with "ethics". Far into the 1700s, science and natural philosophy were not quite synonymous, but only became so later with the direct use of what would become known formally as the scientific method. By contrast, the word "science" in English was still used in the 17th century (1600s) to refer to the Aristotelian concept of knowledge which was secure enough to be used as a sure prescription for exactly how to do something. In this differing sense of the two words, the philosopher John Locke wrote disparagingly in 1690 that "natural philosophy [the study of nature] is not capable of being made a science".[8]

Locke was to be proven wrong, however. By the early 1800s, natural philosophy had begun to separate from philosophy, though it often retained a very broad meaning. In many cases, science continued to stand for reliable knowledge about any topic, in the same way it is still used in the broad sense (see the introduction to this article) in modern terms such as library science, political science, and computer science. In the more narrow sense of science, as natural philosophy became linked to an expanding set of well-defined laws (beginning with Galileo's laws, Kepler's laws, and Newton's laws for motion), it became more popular to refer to natural philosophy as natural science. Over the course of the nineteenth century, moreover, there was an increased tendency to associate science with study of the natural world (that is, the non-human world). This move sometimes left the study of human thought and society (what would come to be called social science) in a linguistic limbo by the end of the century and into the next.[9]

Through the 1800s, many English speakers were increasingly differentiating science (i.e., the natural sciences) from all other forms of knowledge in a variety of ways. The now-familiar expression “scientific method,” which refers to the prescriptive part of how to make discoveries in natural philosophy, was almost unused until then, but became widespread after the 1870s, though there was rarely total agreement about just what it entailed.[9] The word "scientist," meant to refer to a systematically-working natural philosopher, (as opposed to an intuitive or empirically-minded one) was coined in 1833 by William Whewell.[10] Discussion of scientists as a special group of people who did science, even if their attributes were up for debate, grew in the last half of the 19th century.[9] Whatever people actually meant by these terms at first, they ultimately depicted science, in the narrow sense of the habitual use of the scientific method and the knowledge derived from it, as something deeply distinguished from all other realms of human endeavor.


GregoryHaines   May 20th, 2010 1:46 pm ET

it's a sailor, no a soldier, no a hero, no a bird... (above because seeks punishment but cannot see above if knows to be a person and doing the same holding against will)
So i says what it comes down too is there was something in them and i'll show you who , you make money and so do you....keeps in line with the math
but already is a creature before washington law that used math to get math as always with a 'tax' if you will(not the currency concept paper kind)
also a creature that has alert danger light balbs go off if a group of people hold against other people against their will , but with these individuals
such as washington and his sailing in the air .. no sea organization, and his cartoon like stories of the word 'prison' and 'jail' penal codes are
all from washington, implementation of washington. in his last name. Even if one of their inmates was to be held hostage by a group of
people and those same people who were holding that former inmate hostage told them they had to and just accept it and move on. also
you cannot do anything about it. the officers would even see them as deranged and out of their mind. not only this but deem should be
arrested for being people and holding people against their will. It's all image , if normally would recognize it to be bad,
you can tell by the senate and infustructure of the hot seat organization but basicaly knows in his/her mind that would just
be telling them some pals you don't know or simply deranged. It's everybody's house.. their math is a whole separate value you're
basing all maths value on it, you'd be able to walk around and grab as you do out of your fridge and cubburd. their whole pyramid
structures is why you don't have enough obviously. Not only the currency concepts are worse than everybody believed but those big
companies too, since it's so not needed they are than getting everythinhg for cheaper, paying everybody nothing and selling it for more
to everybody and think nothing of it as anybody, however they are obviously in the same boat and the gov is above them and they also
are not a science experiment. Glorified music, movies do have a higher purpose since it's the violance and than ability to separate
and identify as glorification, the everybody has 100's of heads in their city killing(police, judges,da), and holding against will and nobody says anything
isn't even than looked as glorified?? This means you needed to hear that kind of stuff, you needed to hear people were gay.. all the above
creations were actually harder to create and you have less control over them so harder task... we can take a simple law apart say
a dui, well if its all math ur using to get math of being in place B in your mind watch reno 911 when hawk gets the breathalyzer
and didn't move anywhere, that's what your doing basically.. the math just wasnt long enough haha or short enough.. they already
need more than legs to get places on home... hah even depicted the bounty situation, theyre being used more than know in a sense
it's to get you out, you pay than its as if a paranoid tells them well hold up im holding against will and they might mess me or something
and it than becomes not helping because if it was to get them out they wouldnt hunt people down.. theyre not their dogs... caught in between
as well or something. Its all started by militree men, they developed a code and order that was above and with that (because with normal
would probably commit suicide) are able to conitue this code and killl and kill over time with no problem with their image, which is all
once they're there .. they look at the troops and don't care. People are aware they hunt animals who could be mad at them as well and
do use instruments to attract the game. these animals eat and crap too and have vocal cords, so it's an animal that can also kill in some
instances as well , that can get mad that has vocal cords or all has their own way of noise coming out from their mouth.. nobody here
would come up with these ideas of currency concepts and let alone put a portrait of their head with symbols of a pyramid and eye above it
and eagle. Ol crazy didnt know if it was a sailor, general, cop or business man, all of them same story. the order crap they were part of
is how you would be able to sail all long, when they landed it was being let out of something worse i'm sure with the sea nobody
wants to sail aimlessly in thos type of ships anyways, were lucky all the dead forgive us i'm sure or we would be haunted... wasnt just natives
it was extremely difficult if they have some type of order, so they genocide everything and just keep it secret. hey and sometimes animals u cant
understand what they're saying.(humans are animals as well). Really there was tools before them who tooled them i suppose ... whoever figured
they do math so they'll do his forever in its time was the turd. their calender is horizontal with the image of currency(vertical) concepts
the entire currency concept(not a way to make moeny with it but it existing) off the record.. why satan said to god a bird, hero, soldier, sailor
A bird because God says above but obvioulsy knows my pain (flys above but acts as if he doesnt see reaps same), hero because knows what i want to do to them and saves them, soldier because hes militant about it
a sailor because the planets sail, the rocks , the people through air , water everything is smooth sailing. so tools like 'washington' are in
its own image, because is all of these things but none of the above, if humanity was number one or FIRST.. they are. NOT in washington name.
only god is the true hero. It's complex i guess we could say... but makes sense if they tie punishment to human behavior and the human
responsible for creating whatever instance, not in washingtons name/law/penal codes. that's a trip. wouldn't be this kaotic here. Tried to be
owner of the house or something but in doing so that math already separates you a lot more than you think, you can't share and think you cannot
keep in line without it. basically.Yeah it turned into , god saying ok well i kinda see what you're saying.. if there are indeed people who are
vulnerable enough to fall for your tricks , if clearly isn't anything there or must be elsewhere in their minds if already are recognizing it to be
what it is..no matter what it is..Not sure how many currently but it's been a long time too. Yeah theyre going to make the big bucks , what does that
mean... the judges must have left the day they decided to be a judge, yeah im going to make the big bucks... its about people hurting people but i can
hurt people and punish other people for hurting, not when i do it with washington penal code though when the whole thing is because people
hurt others, see if he/she are the type not to only recognize the behavior as bad but punishable at that and for 'washington law' or the
specific 'washington penal code law' not only able to hold against will but is not punished as knows should be, but doesn't even know that!
so it was pretty much police, da, judges... they all believed in cartoons i suppose, the danger light balb help people being held against
their will, does not go off when it's their people, but even if a former inmate was held against will and whoever did it told them they
needed too and to accept it, they would recognize those persons to be deranged/out of their mind. these companies are cool they just appear to be george washintong occult followers more than tehy know if again its not needed and smaller than we thought, theyre going to feel mroe like exactly who they dont want to be, some kind of religious fanatic slave owner , their beliefs about gays and segeragation were only because of them...


SK from MA   May 20th, 2010 1:47 pm ET

@papagino : I think you are misunderstanding this...it is about muslim ideology and not terrorist ideology.....you have it wrong buddy.....


The Voice of Reason   May 20th, 2010 1:47 pm ET

Mohammed can kiss my @$$.


Mike   May 20th, 2010 1:48 pm ET

- " Freedom of Speech" is important but must have limitations"?
I love when people make this statement

-"Nobody should disrespect any religious leader no matter what"
Why not?


BrownGal   May 20th, 2010 1:48 pm ET

I was raised Hindu, and I watched a lot of the Simpsons. The Simpsons mocked not only my culture, but everyone else's. And it's hilarious. Some people were angry, but many people recognize that if you're going to laugh at one group of people (Ned Flanders, for ex) you have to be able to laugh at your own (Apu). I'm glad I don't live in a humorless place, and I'm glad I'm not part of a humorless culture.


An Atheist, oh no!   May 20th, 2010 1:48 pm ET

May 20th, 2010 1:43 pm ET

It's not about freedom of speech. It's about Bashing Muslims.

In the 1960s If white americans started drawing pictures and insutling caricatures of Martin Luther King Jr. "Draw MLK Day!" How would the African Americans respond?

And how would history classify those that belittled the character of MLK? Racist Bigots?

Well guess what? In 10-15 years from now, the US History books will classify you guys has Racist Bigots. Is that how you want your grandchildren to remember you as?
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Don't compare the struggle of blacks with the struggle of Muslims. Blacks weren't doing anything wrong. Muslims are B O M B I N G H O S P I T A L S and E L E M E N T A R Y S C H O O L S and B E H E A D I N G P E O P L E. There's a pretty big difference.


Arsie   May 20th, 2010 1:48 pm ET

freedom of speech, huh? draw the caricatures of the dead bodies of millions of innocent people after you dropped nuclear bombs on hiroshima and nagasaki, the millions who have lost their lives and are still dieing in afghanistan and iraq since 9/11 n draw the images of daily torture n murder of innocent people in palestine n show the world the true face of America!!


Moooohamed Meatspin   May 20th, 2010 1:49 pm ET

ANNOYED WITH THE GOLDEN RULE?

IRRITATED BY THE TOLERANCE OF OTHERS?

OPPOSED TO INDEPENDENT WOMEN?

TICKED WHEN THE REST OF THE WORLD WON'T CLIMB ON BOARD WITH YOUR FAILURE TO JOIN THE 21ST CENTURY?

DON'T GET MAD...GO MAD!

C'MON, OVER TO OUR SIDE AND JOIN OUR PEACEFUL, FREEDOM-LOVING COMRADES AS WE REMAKE THE WORLD AS IT SHOULD BE!

ISLAM!

WE'RE A RELIGION OF PEACE, AND WE'LL KILL YOU TO PROVE IT!!


SK from MA   May 20th, 2010 1:49 pm ET

@The Voice of Reason : you cannot be the voice of reason with that statement...


American Infidel   May 20th, 2010 1:49 pm ET

The article neglected to mention the Facebook site Everybody Draw Mohammad Day – May 20th, 2010 http://bit.ly/aiJMFY
which is moderated and has been relatively civil.
It also neglects to mention all the death threats being posted on the 'Against Draw Mohammad Day' site.


Heh...   May 20th, 2010 1:49 pm ET

"When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them. This is because they acted adversely to Allah and His Messenger; and whoever acts adversely to Allah and His Messenger– then surely Allah is severe in requiting (evil)." – Koran 8:12-13 (Shakir)

So for all you 'religious tolerance' folks out there, are you telling me I should tolerate and respect this? To me, this facebook group, though in some ways a bit immature in content, is simply making a stand against this deadly belief system.


An Atheist, oh no!   May 20th, 2010 1:49 pm ET

May 20th, 2010 1:44 pm ET

ENOUGH with being politically correct.
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Exactly. F the PC cowards, and F Mohammad.


John   May 20th, 2010 1:49 pm ET

This about free speech.

While I may not agree with what you have to say, I'll fight to the death for your right to say it.

Any other way and this would not be a free country.

If you tell me I can't draw George Bush, or Obama, or Jesus, or Mohammed, or Buddha...and yet I disagree with one or more of their policies. I say ...good day sir! And I will draw them.

I have that right & you do too.


Willem   May 20th, 2010 1:50 pm ET

Some of these reactions are so silly.
Muslims may not draw pictures of mohammed. Fine by me if they want to vuluntary live their lives under silly rules, I can respect that. But no one can ask of others to obbey these same silly rules. That would be absurd to accept.


Cmunch2007   May 20th, 2010 1:50 pm ET

Let's be realistic. Organized religion was created by MEN in order to control the people. What sane person would believe that GOD only talks through those at the top of the man made churches. History shows what these religions really are. Muhammad started out as a local warlord. As time went on he had to be bigger than life. He claimed GOD spoke only to him and he was just passing on the message. The Bible is made up of selected writings. It is not complete. What is contained in it is only that which was approved by...A GROUP OF SELF SERVING MEN... None are the one and only. None are absolute. The only thing that would really matter to GOD is what is in a persons heart.


Mariann Pepitone   May 20th, 2010 1:50 pm ET

Muslim's are making Mohammed their god. Well, there is only one god and he is in heaven. He is the god for all people and there is no other god. From what I understand Mohammed organized the Muslim religion and this is a free country. If a person doesn't like their religion they are free to say so without incident. All religions have been discussed by people who had different opinions of them And that is not a crime. Muslims should not be threatening people in this country for their opinions of Mohammed or they should go back to their own country.


Thinker   May 20th, 2010 1:50 pm ET

It's actiually the 2nd commandment. Thaou shall not produce graven images of anything above, on, or below the earth. Basically no pictures of anything. Not just god. This is Hebrew and Christian as well as Islamic.


Jason   May 20th, 2010 1:50 pm ET

On one hand, it's highly offensive and controversial. On the other, there's freedom of speech. But what happens if someone creates a depiction that's actually positive an considered art? Is it seen as a sign of goodwill or is it cast into the offensive category immediately? I care about this issue as an artist.


Imtiaz   May 20th, 2010 1:52 pm ET

Congratulations! It seems like you are validating the radical ones message of intolerance through abusing your right of free speech. I don't see people defending their other rights with such vigor and zeal or for that matter, questionable taboos and prejudices of other religions (The caste system in hiduism, woman's status in orthodox judaism to name a few). Come on people, by trying to respond to a fringe group's intolerance, you are offending and alienating a big block of humanity. Smart move! This exibition of 'legitimate' abuse of your right serves only one purpose, the kid growing up in some part of the muslim world getting the message, he is an untouchable, a pariah and regardlesss of his human decensy and goodwill, there is no acceptance and no love for him in this part of the world. Now, step back and ask yourself, who is doing the recruiting campaign for the radicals? If you hate them, fine! Have the courage to admit that you hate them. Don't hide behind your right, represent the rest of the decent us (who believe in mutual respect) and send the wrong message about us. By hurting their sanctuary of religious values we are not being honorable and making friends.


Mohammad   May 20th, 2010 1:52 pm ET

One question that I want to ask from all of you and offcourse from them who created the "Draw Muhammad Day", that "What do you know about Prophet MOHAMMAD(P.B.U.H)? What is the reason that non-muslims are making jokes and cartoons of our prophet MOHAMMAD(P.B.U.H). if anyone says that teaching of MOHAMMAD(P.B.U.H) is against humanity, today's Muslims (some black sheeps) which are doing wrong activity in behalf of ISLAM, all are saying that teaching of ISLAM is wrong, why they are targeting ISLAM, I challenge any person quote only single authentic teaching of ISLAM is wrong I am ready to cut my head, if no one is able to quote than I ask all of you peope to please stop all these things which are going against ISLAM.


kmac   May 20th, 2010 1:53 pm ET

I should draw jews as pizzas and a nazi putting them in an oven.

I wonder how far that goes to shut up all your free speech idiots.

Obviously you all pick up your pens to draw Muhammad PBUH but will not have the guts to draw jesus sodomizing a child or a jew burning in an oven...because you hate Islam this has nothing to do with free speech.

Freedom of speech is freedom to hate. Then I saw bring it on you bigots.


Hell is real...be aware   May 20th, 2010 1:53 pm ET

Each and everyone here is stupid, except a very few like me. It shows how much hate is floating around in the people of USA for other religions. Let other people live guys.


YOUR ALL WHINERS!   May 20th, 2010 1:54 pm ET

Looks like Atheism has been brought up once here..

Everyone is crying about the feelings of Muslims, Christians and other religious groups but what about Atheists?

Since no human being is all knowing then it would have to be concluded that Atheism is also a belief, therefore should Atheist's not be able to follow their beliefs?

Drawing Mohammed for an atheist would be no different then drawing a picture of Iron Man. They are both fictional characters who appear in books. If a muslim tells an atheist not to draw a picture of mohammed then that Atheist should be able to tell that Muslim to stop praying.

If civilization as we know it ended and a thousand years from now it started back up and a book containing references to mohammed were found and a book containing a reference to Iron Man were found who do you think they would worship?


WALLJALT   May 20th, 2010 1:55 pm ET

When it Rome, do as the Romans do. Facebook is an American company, and therefore it enjoys the benefit of free speech. If that doesn't suit you, get over it. Your Muslim brothers and sisters speak volumes about your arcane religion by joining the Facebook page and mocking you.


Some Guy   May 20th, 2010 1:55 pm ET

Once upon a time, in the mystic land of India, a very famous painter called M.F.Hussain ( a moslem and former bill board painter ) painted nude images of hindu gods and godesses. Before that he painted a lot and sells for millions and is considered the most famoust painter in india. Well No one issued a fatwa for Blasphemy since that concept does not exist in hindu religion. There were constant protests against this and eventually at his ripe old age of 80+ he got tired of the slogan shouting in front of his house, he moved to Quatar where he lives a life of luxury without any police protection. Islam prohibits idolatory , so does some oldest christian sects. " Google Marthoma Orthodox Christians , or Marthomites .
But all religions have reformed over millenia except islam , but all the while claiming to be tolerant religion, why cant it tolerate some critsism, Why is there no translation of quaran allowed. Why is 'such a noble religion' intrepreted by a few narrow minded mullas only? Why do educated muslims like the newyork wannabe bomber get brainwashed by mullah mumble ( aka hate speech ) ? I am glad this facebook took of so late ? Wonder why it did not start of earlier ? The true power of internet diversity now truly exists and will only manifest more diversly. IF the mullas permitted quran translation like the bible , may be islam would have become the biggest religion . Christianity knew how to definitely market itself . True islam is neither peaceful , or arts friendly or science friendly. Once cannot listen to music, one cannot paint, one cannot sculpt, etc etc. Pray 5 days , eat , reproduce as many kids, multiply by marrying as many women ... Truly this religion needs reform. Perhaps they educated muslim brothers and sisters should standup and reform and put up a brave front against any violent opposition to such islamic reform activities.


lala   May 20th, 2010 1:55 pm ET

wow! gone are the days of respect


FormerPreacher   May 20th, 2010 1:55 pm ET

" " Freedom of Speech" is important but must have limitations. Nobody should disrespect any religious leader no matter what. "

Would that include the religious leaders Jim & Tammy ("Baker" – if u don't know)?

My favorite Jim & Tammy quote: "I believe that if Jesus were alive today he would be on TV" – and presumably asking for money like they were?

Come to think of it, kind of an odd thing for a Christian minister to say – considering the Resurrection and the Christian belief in the omnipresence of Jesus.

Religion, and certainly religious leaders, should not be beyond criticism, and, indeed disrespect – few Catholics today would defend the Popes who preached the Crusades (to slaughter Muslims) or who created the Inquisition.

When the religious have shown themselves so ready to kill in the name(s) of their god(s) I think they deserve disrespect.


Mamnoon   May 20th, 2010 1:55 pm ET

By the name of freedom of speech dipicting any religion is wrong and the owner of the facebook or utube shouldn't allow. It's funny that utube owner say attacking others is not allowed, but then they ignore dipiction of religion, which is not only an attack, it is insult.

Here is a message for those who misuse freedom. You don't know how much respect Islam has for Jesus, and Moses, peace be upon them, Muslims love Jesus and Moses as the beloved prophets of God, a slightest disrespect Godforbid, is a great sin for Muslims. Besidely, Muslims believe that evey religion has it's merits before God, and so we have respect for all religions. That is only fair in humanity. Therefore, please let's leave religions alone, and use the freedom of speech for politics and other stuff, be fair so that you all have shown dignity, so that you will have shown your true being. Thanks. Best regards.


An Atheist, oh no!   May 20th, 2010 1:55 pm ET

May 20th, 2010 1:53 pm ET

Each and everyone here is stupid, except a very few like me. It shows how much hate is floating around in the people of USA for other religions. Let other people live guys.
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Go visit the Middle East and come back here and say that this is all about hate or racism. You're obviously not a veteran, nor have you ever been to the Middle East.


n of 1   May 20th, 2010 1:55 pm ET

As a muslim and a member of a FREE society, I will fight like hell to defend someone's right to offend me (non physical ofcourse!)....but I will also expect as a member of FREE society to CHOOSE not to exercise that right. After all there are Facebook pages that propone destruction of Israel and equate Christianity with a satanic ritual with much larger memberships than the Muhammad page- why aren't people up in arms about that?????


SK from MA   May 20th, 2010 1:56 pm ET

come on folks, tell me this...if it is OK for all, other than muslims to say anything against Muslims and their belief, why was it a RED FLAG when that Iranian dictator Ahmedenijad said Holocaust was a myth....just for the sake of argument here!!


Cmunch2007   May 20th, 2010 1:57 pm ET

The Second Commandment

“You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.” Exodus 20:4-6

Broad and very comprehensive in its wording, the second commandment forbids the worship of the true God through icons, images, or other man-made symbolisms. Many of the heathen nations around Israel claimed that their images were mere figures or symbols by which the Deity was worshiped, but God has declared such worship to be sin. The attempt to represent the Eternal One by material objects would lower man's conception of God. The mind, turned away from the infinite perfection of Jehovah, would be attracted to the creature rather than to the Creator. And as his conceptions of God were lowered, man’s worship of God—his view of God—would be lowered as well. Anytime we endeavor to represent God, by any devising of our imagination, we lower our concept of the Deity. Anything that we allow to take His place in our lives—be it our job, our bank account, our possessions, our family—of that thing we are making an idol. God calls for us to worship Him in spirit and in truth. In the second commandment we find principles of worship acceptable to God.


Atika Azeem   May 20th, 2010 1:57 pm ET

A wise man is superior to any insults which can be put upon him, and the best reply to unseemly behavior is patience and moderation.”

Moliere quotes


Boston Dan   May 20th, 2010 1:58 pm ET

@lffo
we donot disrespect anyone and hope to expect the same.

Yeah, why don't you tell that to the families of 9/11, the families at the Texas military base, the families of all the embassy's that have been blown up and the families of all the people who died on the USS Cole.

You should just shut up now.
Thanks


Imran   May 20th, 2010 1:58 pm ET

There's no such thing as absolute freedom. Ask those who're locked up in European jails because they denied the holocaust.

If Muslims we're to have a "draw pictures of Jews day", there would be a huge outcry, claiming all "Moslums" are anti-semitic.

Insulting those minorities that live amongst you demonstrates the insecurity of so-called "Western Values".

Enjoy this day. Rejoice. Time will tell who's values are more worthier in the eyes of God. Freedom of speech = Guise to insult the weak.


andy   May 20th, 2010 1:58 pm ET

If your dumb enough to believe in "god" you certainly have more important things to worry about.


dmsilence   May 20th, 2010 1:58 pm ET

Seems like the backlash is turning Mr. Vilks into a Marter. The more prudent course of action would have been to do nothing to acknowledge its existence. Now intead they have spawned 81,000 people to respond to attacks. Freedom of Speech is a fundamental freedom of the US, but it also can lead to these types of events. I am pleased to see such a social movement in both directions. At least niether event is violent so far.


Nick   May 20th, 2010 1:59 pm ET

There is something very wrong when a religion that I am not even a part of tells me I cannot draw something or I will get my head cut off?

How is it a religion of peace if you kill people?
How is it tolerance on your part if you make death threats against those of other religions who choose to draw him in a non crude way?

The Christians have been forced to take it and be "Open minded" for things such as a feces covered mary and other such disgusting things.

My religion does not kill people just for drawing Jesus or even covering him up with chocolate.

Why does yours and why do you not speak out against that? I call that a double standard.


ExperusOmnes   May 20th, 2010 2:00 pm ET

Ok, some of you aren't gonna like what I have to say this time, but I'm gonna tell it EXACTLY like it is. Many of the comments have stated the opinion that this site is somehow wrong because it disrespects religous beliefs. I have a BIG problem with that way of thinking. To start with the basic premise: I don't think anyone can argue with the fact that it is my right as a human to draw whatever i want. agreed? agreed...at least I hope you agree thus far, else I fear there is little hope for you to follow the next arguments.

Now, I am not of the muslim faith, therefore I would have no problem that one of the things I may find myself wanting to draw might include Mohammed (or any other religious figure). As we've already established, I have that RIGHT to do that. Now I can also respect one's RIGHT to religious freedom to practice their own religion as they see fit, with one big IF....IF practicing that religion does not infringe on MY RIGHTS (for instance you cannot hit me in the head with a brick even if your religion says it's ok, because that is a violation of MY rights). If you think it is not ok to draw Mohammed because your religious beliefs say so, then YOU have the right not to draw him and I do not have the right to FORCE you to draw him. However you still do NOT have the right to take away MY right to draw him just because YOU think it's wrong. And that is the heart of this issue.

To all the people trying to say it's wrong and disrespectful and should not be allowed...why not? Why are you trying to give a concept (religion) more rights than you're willing to give a living human to exercise their inherent rights? I don't care if you're a religious person or not, if that is your way of thinking, I think, you have your priorities backwards. If those drawings offend you then DON'T LOOK AT THEM!! Nobody is forcing you to. But you want to force me to forfeit my rights to draw them simply to pander to someone who has the opportunity to not be offended (by simply not looking), but would rather lobby the world to try to take away my rights so that I must act in a manner that THEIR religion dictates I act. Who's the REAL BULLY in this matter?


Stacks Edwards III   May 20th, 2010 2:00 pm ET

Heres my picture !!!!

8=======D


Allah   May 20th, 2010 2:01 pm ET

Here is a picture of Mohammed teaching and taking care of the poor in a snowstorm:

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Jennifer   May 20th, 2010 2:01 pm ET

It is freedom of speech, no matter how disrespectful. The people who made this are immature, but it shouldn't come down.


mrjohner   May 20th, 2010 2:02 pm ET

funny how in THEIR countries it is perfectly acceptable to yell "DEATH TO ALL AMERICANS" as much as they want but we can't even draw a cartoon, because it's rude.


LiviaSara   May 20th, 2010 2:03 pm ET

Of course freedom of speech is an absolute must...

But Com'mon! This really does seem like a deliberate and provocative jab at religious Muslims, and serves as an encouragement for prejudice and racist people to rear their ugly heads.

If the creators of this sight truly wanted freedom of speech, but also believed in the respect of others, and if they had an once of understanding about the faith of Islam, they would not have created this site.

Should we create a website where people can come in and draw a "Poor Hispanic Immigrant"? Can you imagine the offensiveness that-that would create? Yes it would be freedom of speech, but everyone knows about the racist sentiments that are spurred from that image in the US.

FREEDOM OF SPEECH COMES WITH RESPONSIBILITY...
RESPECT!


Stacks Edwards III   May 20th, 2010 2:03 pm ET

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Varied   May 20th, 2010 2:04 pm ET

Well after looking at both sites, I think they didn't bother to look to see that the only reason the one site has more than the "Draw Mohammed" one is that there are a lot of people posting stuff on their in support of the "Draw Mohammed" one. Epic backfire on the people that created the anti-site.


april   May 20th, 2010 2:05 pm ET

I think Muslims picked a fight when they threatened to kill people who depicted their prophet. This is a way for people to hit back.


meela   May 20th, 2010 2:06 pm ET

learn about islam, it's a religion of peace

http://islamqa.com/en/


lochlan   May 20th, 2010 2:06 pm ET

Why not just call it make fun of Muslims day?


fahadhassan   May 20th, 2010 2:07 pm ET

We need more religious (In)Tolerance!

http://fahadhassan.wordpress.com/2010/05/18/we-need-more-religious-intolerance/


Tayyab   May 20th, 2010 2:07 pm ET

I have no words to condemn the most ever blasphemous act of Facebook users and its owners to call such a contest which has distressed every Muslim. To hell with facebook and pernicious contributors on that page.

I would never use Facebook again for its owners do not have respect for hundreds of thousands of Muslims.


Pakistan vs. China   May 20th, 2010 2:07 pm ET

Pakistan has blocked Facebook for one day? That does indeed suck, big time. However, it pales in comparison to the ultra-corrupt, brainwashing-savvy mainland Chinese government, led by Propagandist-in-Chief Hu Jintao and his loyal lackeys, which makes it a habit of blocking not only Facebook, but also YouTube, Twitter, Blogger and countless other websites – not just for one day, but every day.

I do NOT condone censorship. However, Pakistan's leadership may simply wish to avoid mass rioting and bloodshed for one day. China's commie leaders, on the other hand, have much more sinister intentions: to keep their 1.3 billion slave-citizens in the dark about the appeal of freedom (including freedom of expression) and to hide from them any information or resources not in sync with the dictatorial, anti-human rights policies of the iron-fist CPC (Communist Party of China, aka Censorship Party of China).


emasee   May 20th, 2010 2:07 pm ET

Were we drawing pictures and disrespecting muslims when we got attacked on 911? no this was all brought on by radical muslims that believe as long as they threaten us we will tuck our tails. look at the censorship of south park. they get threatened and then CENSOR a stupid cartoon that doesnt mean anything. a cartoon that makes fun of all religions. we need to be more upset about the fact that we are losing our freedom of speech. If america was to kill people that talk bad about us isreal would be the only other continent! and i say continent cause we would nuke the rest of the countrys.


adam   May 20th, 2010 2:08 pm ET

I think it should be called stupid day page. People got nothing to do. Its nothing more than hate promoting page, that being said, I meant hate promoting page for both sides of the equation. Social media web sites suppose to be bringing people together not to show how much they hate each other under the freedom of speech thing.


freedomofreligion   May 20th, 2010 2:10 pm ET

I think it is disrespectful to maliciously tear down the religious beliefs of anyone.
As a Christian, I find it offensive to constantly hear the taking of the name of Jesus in vain as part of our cultural vocabulary. Yet, to speak out, then Christians become labeled as narrow minded bigots.
I have Muslim friends and they are not blowing up buildings and killing people.
However, there are places in the world today where Christians are being killed because of their faith in Jesus Christ.

Everyone will face eternity. Perhaps we should all act with eternity in mind.


meela   May 20th, 2010 2:10 pm ET

Answer for mockery of prophet muhammad.

http://islamqa.com/en/ref/86109/fun%20prophet

islam is peace..... may god guide you to the righteous path. please stop fighting, and tolerate each other. making fun and insulting would only increase hate.


Ron Nospam   May 20th, 2010 2:10 pm ET

Believe whatever mythology you want, but do not hold me to your bizarre religious laws. Freedom OF religion also means freedom FROM religion.


Dan   May 20th, 2010 2:11 pm ET

No matter who you worship: God, Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed, I find this type of behavior reprehensible. Hiding behind free speech may make this type of activity culturally legal, but not morally or spiritually right. Mocking any God is a sacrilege–because you are essentially mocking the very people who hold these beliefs so dear. This is the greatest form of global racism I can ever imagine, and is just another example in a long list of moral, social and environmental ills plaguing our entire planet. The world has lost its way and most people just don't care. The Internet is just speeding up the process.


An Atheist, oh no!   May 20th, 2010 2:12 pm ET

May 20th, 2010 2:03 pm ET

Of course freedom of speech is an absolute must...

But Com'mon! This really does seem like a deliberate and provocative jab at religious Muslims, and serves as an encouragement for prejudice and racist people to rear their ugly heads.
FREEDOM OF SPEECH COMES WITH RESPONSIBILITY...
RESPECT!
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"TV presenter gets death sentence for 'sorcery'"

Do you get it that it is not about racism – you don't hear anyone picking on Hindus. Do you get that it's not about hate – there's nobody picking on Buddhists. It's about calling out a religion that continues to perpetrate atrocities against humanity on a daily basis. Read those quotes above. In March of 2010, yes in the 21st century, a Lebanese man was given a death sentence for SORCERY.

This is about speaking out against a religious system that continues to blight humanity through continual abuses on women, abuses against "infidels" (just the fact that the word "infidel" exists and carries such murderous contempt is a problem), abuses against individuality, and the rejection of modern civilization.


Cheikh   May 20th, 2010 2:13 pm ET

Facebook knew that viewership and participation would increase regardless of the firestorm that has been generated.

Facebook's response was typical and shallow...nothing new to human existence


n   May 20th, 2010 2:14 pm ET

why is it okay for the media and television to mock christians and jesus but god forbid any other religion??


An Atheist, oh no!   May 20th, 2010 2:15 pm ET

May 20th, 2010 2:11 pm ET

No matter who you worship: God, Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed, I find this type of behavior reprehensible. Hiding behind free speech may make this type of activity culturally legal, but not morally or spiritually right. Mocking any God is a sacrilege–because you are essentially mocking the very people who hold these beliefs so dear. This is the greatest form of global racism I can ever imagine, and is just another example in a long list of moral, social and environmental ills plaguing our entire planet. The world has lost its way and most people just don't care. The Internet is just speeding up the process.
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Download the clip of a girl being stoned to death in the 21st century for "dishonoring" her family while about 100 neighbors watch. Islam is the plague, and apologists like you just serve to keep that plague alive while it continues to trample women and anyone else in its way under its feet.


The voice of reason   May 20th, 2010 2:15 pm ET

I think the group should be allowed to stay up; however, I do not agree with it, and I find it extremely offensive. I also wanted to address the generalization that all muslims will kill in the name of their religion. First, like someone earlier in the comments stated, Muslim extremest are the ones who are threatening people. Don't make a massive generalization that this applies to all Muslims. It is the religious extremist in every religion who cause conflict and bring a bad name among religion. Simplifying an issue, such as this one, is one of the problems with the average American, who is blinded by lack of knowledge and ignorance. Someone also said that Muslims are rats and Islam has brought the most bloodshed among all of the religions. My response to that is, maybe you need to do a little more research on Christianity's & Catholicism's history. I would love to share more of my opinion, but i feel as if this is getting a little wrong, and knowing the average American, they don't like to read a lot.


Brent   May 20th, 2010 2:15 pm ET

I see 'Draw Mohammed Day' as a backlash to all the terrorism that has been going on. Do these Muslim terrorists expect everyone to stand still, take it and not say anything?


lochlan   May 20th, 2010 2:15 pm ET

All muslims, boycott facebook.


therm   May 20th, 2010 2:15 pm ET

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Daniel   May 20th, 2010 2:16 pm ET

Everyone can draw jesus but draw mohammed and the muslims go nuts. That is why the world looks at them they way we do. So its ok for every other religon to have their leader made fun of. But o watch you making fun of monhammed were goingto blow something up. And they wonder why the world look on them as we do.


Mike   May 20th, 2010 2:16 pm ET

Muslims, get over yourselves. Quit with all the threats. We draw what we want. Why don't you just go pray and forget about it.


An Atheist, oh no!   May 20th, 2010 2:17 pm ET

meela May 20th, 2010 2:10 pm ET

Answer for mockery of prophet muhammad.
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If people apologized to Muhammad, nobody would hear those apolgies because he doesn't exist. Welcome to civilization.


Stacks Edwards III   May 20th, 2010 2:17 pm ET

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shriraj   May 20th, 2010 2:18 pm ET

just do it, create something don't destroy


tash   May 20th, 2010 2:18 pm ET

This is not freedom of speech. I have no problem if the group wanted to stand up to make a point. But the pictures portrayed on that page are of pure hate. The pictures are just too offensive and crude. This is not making a point, rather far from it.


Daniel   May 20th, 2010 2:19 pm ET

Muslims do need to get over it enough already. And if your going to do something just do it dont stand around and throw threats.


Ric Stevens   May 20th, 2010 2:19 pm ET

Freedom Of Religion.. Freedom of Speech.. Freedom to be Nice Or a Jerk to Others so long as it doesn't infringe on the Rights and well being of others. A Cartoon.. Regardless of it being either funny, mean spririted, infringes on nothing.. other than making a person trun the page.. click a button on the mouse to Not look at it or change the channel on the TV. The world needs to grow Up.. Sticks and stones and all that.. DEAL with the different views of others.. and go with the flow.. And for those of you out tere with Jiihad in Mind.. Two Words.. The Crusades... There are a LOT more Christians out there.. and if you Prod them long enough .. they WILL eventually decide to come at you again... as for Me... I Could Care Less..
(Yes I posted a Mohammed on Facebook today) Religion is NOT about the relationship between a Man and his God.. It is JUST another political structure that capitalizes ON that relationship


JER5EY   May 20th, 2010 2:20 pm ET

I do think the page was created to pi$s off Muslims, but it is important to remember Freedom of Speech. It can only offend you if you read it – and that is your choice.
Sound like a bunch of stupid idiot kids looking to pick a fight, but until they throw the first stone, equal liberties should prevail.
Same goes true for the cartoonists from a couple years ago. They have the right to draw it, the editor has the right to print it. That doesn't mean I have to read it. Again – equality. The infringement begins to occur when you spit on me for drawing it, or I tie you down and force you to read it.
I am Catholic, and would hate to see Muslims drawing pictures of my Savior in an offensive light – HOWEVER, that would not give me the right to put a fatwa out on them...
God bless us all...


Dan Persaud   May 20th, 2010 2:20 pm ET

One more win for freedom!


Saj   May 20th, 2010 2:21 pm ET

Why is it Muhammad Pbuh all the time there are many others thing to draw these are just maniacs who just want to stir controversy and make their pages popular by hurting someone.....this is gross and should be blocked. this is not freedom of speech.

@papagino.... please make an FB page of your naked mom n dad n u lying between them all naked ....huge controversy...

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peace   May 20th, 2010 2:21 pm ET

why do we have to attack each other why cant we leave the prophit alone would it be offinsive if we made drawings of the pope with kids on his lap or we made a game of how many jews you could kill during the holocast yes it would and we dont so we why would you?


therm   May 20th, 2010 2:21 pm ET

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wow....who knew   May 20th, 2010 2:22 pm ET

To the person that said

"Who said anything about respect? This is America....and we have the right to say what we want. If you think its ok for Muslims to throw a fit over us being able to say what we what then you can leave."

Try this...Go to the airport, lean over the counter and politley whisper this sweet, little nugget of free speech goodness into the agent's ear: "I'm going to blow this plane up." and see if they "throw a fit".

No, sir, you CAN'T say whatever you want.


An Atheist, oh no!   May 20th, 2010 2:23 pm ET

I am Catholic, and would hate to see Muslims drawing pictures of my Savior in an offensive light – HOWEVER, that would not give me the right to put a fatwa out on them...
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Palestinians use Mickey Mouse in kid's television shows to preach death against Jews. I can't imagine what kind of drawings of Jesus come out of there.


Reality   May 20th, 2010 2:23 pm ET

Muslims are offended by depictions of The Prophet Muhammad. As a matter of respect, I will not make such a depiction. Although, I strongly defend my right to do so and to not have my life threatened for failure to adhere to another person's religion.

While we are on the subject of not offending each other, I would like to say that many people in America are offended by a journalist being brutally beheaded then having video of it posted on the internet.

I know it is just a radical minority of Muslims who engage in such brutality. However, when a Dutch paper ran cartoons depicting Muhammad, there were large scale protests in the streets calling for the death of the cartoonist. I saw no such protest calling for the deaths of those who murder in the name of Islam.

Which brings more disrespect to Islam, a non believer drawing a cartoon or one who claims to be a believer committing acts of brutality.


Howie   May 20th, 2010 2:24 pm ET

This is great! Now we need a disrespect all religions day! This is all about disrespect, and that is fine by me. I will happily disrespect and in fact ridicule any belief in fairy tales. Invisible sky man please save us. Oh please. Grow up people, religion is outdated and unnecessary, there is no god, there were no prophets, all priests (rabbis, mullas, ect.) are pedophiles, and intelligent people belief in science.


meela   May 20th, 2010 2:24 pm ET

islam comes from word salaam, which means peace. the only thing islam teaches is peace. if you have doubt check the history. you can see who started all the major wars in history.
not muslims.
please increase your knowledge. learn more about islam.

http://islamqa.com/en/


Cautious in Calif   May 20th, 2010 2:24 pm ET

All the discussion of free speech. What good will it have been when Muslem extremists nuke us over an issue like this? The survivors can ask, was it worth it? Since we don't have the stomach to put an end to all muslem extremists, maybe we should be somewhat responsible. LIke use your free speech to teach about the fallacies of Islam, instead of intentionally poking an Muslem's eye over a picture,


therm   May 20th, 2010 2:25 pm ET

Relating criticizing religion with a plane bomb scare is moronic. Sure you can't threaten to KILL people, but we can certainly criticize religion and and the delutionists who believe in it.


Howie   May 20th, 2010 2:25 pm ET

Oops, 'believe', not 'belief'


doofus   May 20th, 2010 2:25 pm ET

with the attutude surounding the whole "depiction of the prophet" were they REALLY shocked there were a bunch of crude and intentionally offensive drawings? i mean, REALLY? tell a bunch of free thinkers on the internet they can't do something and they will ALWAYS do it 10x and ensure you are offended by it. welcome to the internet Muslim world. everything DOESN'T revolve around YOU and YOU ONLY...


S. Jones   May 20th, 2010 2:26 pm ET

Screw tolerance. Tolerance is not a universal right. If you want to be tolerated, you must first be tolerable. This goes for all religions and belief systems. Should we tolerate intolerance? Most religions preach, practice and spread it like a social disease that persists through generations. Why the eff should anyone tolerate that?


Zaeem   May 20th, 2010 2:26 pm ET

Indeed, the precedent is set. Holocaust denial, for example, is illegal in Austria, France and Germany. Therefore, Holocaust denial Facebook pages aren’t viewable in those countries.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/


Brian   May 20th, 2010 2:26 pm ET

I think it's funny. They get mad over the fact that we draw their god! These are people that think its ok to send women and children to death strapping their body with explosives!!! Oh but its about religion, ok. Draw draw and draw out little hearts away. I think its funny!


Angel   May 20th, 2010 2:27 pm ET

All the guys/girls who are making ridicule to any religion and its teachings here on the message boards should know that there is an eternal life after this life and what they are writing/saying/abusing here being recorded by the angels of God (God of Jesus, God of Moses, God of Mohammad and God of all human beings) and God is all-aware, all-knowing and on the day of judgement those people will be thrown to hell who don't obey what God wants out of them and there would be many more deaths not just one death.


An Atheist! Behead him!   May 20th, 2010 2:27 pm ET

meela May 20th, 2010 2:24 pm ET

islam comes from word salaam, which means peace. the only thing islam teaches is peace. if you have doubt check the history. you can see who started all the major wars in history.
not muslims.
please increase your knowledge. learn more about islam.
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Lol, yeah those darn Buddhists were the ones who flew the planes into the world trade towers.


okhan   May 20th, 2010 2:27 pm ET

@semifreedom: At least I am not offending anyone with my rights. And I don't need any more friends :-) And I have PhD in Electrical Engineering, patents, publications... should I continue?


Ed   May 20th, 2010 2:28 pm ET

If you wish for others to change a behavior be an example.

Exercising a freedom by going out of your way to insult somone elses relgion helps how?

A lot of people on both sides of this issue need to grow up.

If you draw something on Facebook that you would not care to show in person to someone who would be offended by it you are a coward.

Threatening to kill someone because they have offended you may get you killed instead.


Mike   May 20th, 2010 2:28 pm ET

Cautious, why don't you just run and hide. Personally I can't believe it took this long for someone to step up and say, were not afraid of you or your god. Your beliefs are not my beliefs. PBUH...put Buddah up higher....he was much more peaceful....


The Walrus   May 20th, 2010 2:28 pm ET

Look, if you get upset over an image than that is your issue. I couldn't care less about religion, it is all BS anyway. But trying to kill someone over religion is even more stupid, so Muslims, you are on top of the pile of idiots at the moment.

There is no hell, no heaven, you just die, and you wont get your virgins either.


Lew   May 20th, 2010 2:28 pm ET

This again demonstrates why religion belongs back in the Middle Ages. Scientists do not go around telling you you can't write against the Big Bang or Darwinism or draw funny pictures of Einstein.


Joe The Plumber   May 20th, 2010 2:29 pm ET

posted my meela
"islam comes from word salaam, which means peace. the only thing islam teaches is peace"

Yeah– a "peace" of you over here and a "peace" over there. Religionof peace of my hiney. Quit wanting to blow up people and maybe we can co-exist.


Sharad   May 20th, 2010 2:29 pm ET

I don't understand why freedom of expression is so important. I think it is important, but aren't there more serious issues like famine, drought, disease, etc. around the world that we easily act ignorant. But a compromise on freedom of speech – my GOD – that is like the end of the world!


tope   May 20th, 2010 2:29 pm ET

I CAN DRAW A FINE PICTURE OF MOHAMMED.


It's ironic...   May 20th, 2010 2:29 pm ET

WHAT IS IRONY?

Irony is when people display hatred towards the hatred that others display towards a religion that embodies so much... hatred.

THINK ABOUT IT.

"Hatred" is a noun, the adjectival form of which is "hateful". Let's see what other adjectives we can find to describe Islam:

- intolerant
- dogmatic
- punitive
- destructive
- inhumane
- militaristic
- violent
- elitist
- arrogant
- dangerous
- destructive

This list could be expanded, but I think my point has been made.


Memphis Bill   May 20th, 2010 2:30 pm ET

I was offended when 19 MUSLIM men decided it would be a good idea to crash 2 jets into the WTC, one into the Pentagon, and one more into a field killing 2500+ people. EFF the Muslims and EFF anyone else that can't take a joke.


micrbu   May 20th, 2010 2:30 pm ET

The reason the muslims come to this country is not to assimilate but to subjugate!


JenniPoohBear   May 20th, 2010 2:30 pm ET

I believe whole-heartedly in freedom of religion. I also believe just as adamantly in freedom of speech. No one was asking Muslims to "draw Mohammad". No one was forcing that upon them. It was a stab at the radical side of Islam, where it is "kill the infidels for making pictures of our prophet!". Muslims have the right to enjoy their religion and it is NOT required of them by this country or anyone in it for them to draw Mohammad.

BUT, just because a bunch of NON-Muslims choose to do it does NOT give the Muslims ANY right to tell us what we can and can not do. We do NOT worship your prophet and we could care less if people draw pictures of him. Get over yourselves. If you are offended, simply don't watch, don't support....but don't go around threatening people. Get over yourselves. You came here to this country and enjoy the freedoms we provide. All we ask is that you give us the same courtesy we give you.


Achmed   May 20th, 2010 2:30 pm ET

This is a cult based on the ramblings of a paranoid schizophrenic with obsessive compulsive behavior and a pedophile to boot.


Free   May 20th, 2010 2:30 pm ET

I agree that its distasteful to post hateful pictures in this social experiment, but the experiment is necessary in the current climate of fear people have about this. Freedom of speech is sometimes used to be distasteful, but the absence of free speech and religious intolerance is truly offensive and wrong. Freedom isn't free.


Nauman   May 20th, 2010 2:30 pm ET

whoever anticipated in the draw..INSHALLAH will burn in hell – (Ameen)


Zaeem   May 20th, 2010 2:30 pm ET

ndeed, the precedent is set. Holocaust denial, for example, is illegal in Austria, France and Germany. Therefore, Holocaust denial Facebook pages aren’t viewable in those countries.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/


An Atheist! Behead him!   May 20th, 2010 2:30 pm ET

S. Jones May 20th, 2010 2:26 pm ET

Screw tolerance. Tolerance is not a universal right. If you want to be tolerated, you must first be tolerable. This goes for all religions and belief systems. Should we tolerate intolerance? Most religions preach, practice and spread it like a social disease that persists through generations. Why the eff should anyone tolerate that?
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Awwww, it might hurt someone's feelings if we call them F~~~ing dirtbag barbarians for stoning teenage girls to death for loving someone outside their sect. Or it could offend the sensibilities of the masked guy who beheaded Daniel Pearl if we refer to Mohammad (PBUH) as "not real".


Charles Bradford   May 20th, 2010 2:30 pm ET

I'm a devout Christian, attending church the majority of Sundays and I read the Bible daily, halfway through my 14th time. Many of my friends are Muslim, from various reagions such as Pakistan, Plaestine, Lebanon, Syria, etc. We are all business owners, well to do, well educated, and dedicated family people. Other than slight differences in our appearances and the religions we follow, we are just the same.

I would never depict their Prophet out of character out of rspeect for them, but IMHO they would probably laugh it off. If they depicted Jesus in a derogatory form, I would express my dismay, forgive them, and move on.

Being in Conservative Texas, there is a very large opinion that Muslims are hateful violent people. I would venture to say that the majority of persons here are scared when they see a person dressed in tradional muslim garb and start loking for abandoned back packs, etc.

This is a shame as we do sterotype the majority due to a small radical faction. As I said before, the Muslims I know are just like me. That said, I have migrated from a conservative Republican to being a bipartisan centrist. The main reason for that is the far right Christian Coalition that I liken to any other extremist groups such as the Taliban, Hamas, etc.

Bottom line is no one is going to make me believe what I dont want to, I am not going to force my beliefs on you, and I really couldnt give a crap what you believe unless you ask me and open the door for me to express my opinions.

The battle is ours. If we as individuals dn't stand up for ourselves and our indvidual freedoms, then we will have other's beliefs forced and imposed on us. I truly wish the rest of the Muslim world would follow the example of Pakistan and root out the extremists. It would be great to see a church, a synagouge, and a mosque all next door to each other where the attendees can meet for lunch after.


American   May 20th, 2010 2:31 pm ET

Holocaust was a COMPLETE LIE. [freedom of speech].

Osama Bin Laden going to be next president of USA. [freedom of speech].

Pope going to accept Islam very soon. [Freedom of Speech]


An Atheist! Behead him!   May 20th, 2010 2:32 pm ET

Nauman May 20th, 2010 2:30 pm ET

whoever anticipated in the draw..INSHALLAH will burn in hell – (Ameen)
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Is hell down the street from the Big Rock Candy Mountain and next to Care Bear Cloud City? Or is it south of Neveralnd?


anobody   May 20th, 2010 2:32 pm ET

These religious and cultural stomping articles are boring and I have outgrown them. I wish people would grow up and realize there is a bigger picture outside of their tiny ethnocentric view of the world. Cultures and belief structures should remain diverse and in some cases opposed to one-another. Imagine a world in which we are all completely the same. BORING and unimaginative, simple. My advice to the world: Use your brain! Ye shall not boycott lest ye wish to be boycotted.


Maay   May 20th, 2010 2:32 pm ET

One ignorant going after another.

I'm not in favor of either the absurdly shameless Facebook Group and neither am I in favor of blocking out the world to the citizens of a country on the bandwagon of religion.

If Pakistan had known better, Islam teaches its followers tolerance.
It's not like Pakistan is the only Muslim country out there who probably found this offensive, yet they chose to react on something this trivial because they are hypocrites.

It's high time Pakistan endorses secularism, but how can we forget the country martyred 10 million people in 1947 to be called an "Independent" nation.

While I am all against the Facebook Group drawing pictures of Prophet Muhammad, I choose not to waste my time on ignorants.
If they don't know the religion, why blame them or commemorate them by banning Facebook.

Pakistan needs to break me from hypocrisy.
Muslim-hatters need to enlighten themselves with what the religion really is all about.
Do you think people abusing the religion, i.e. Fundamentalists have a fair knowledge on the religion when they haven't got the least bit of sanity left in them.

Be fair to yourself and if you do want to formulate a fair opinion on a religion, do some research before you judge.


therm   May 20th, 2010 2:32 pm ET

Coexistance is Futile

No Tolerance for Delusion


ramtruck2500   May 20th, 2010 2:32 pm ET

My god (oh I hope that does'nt offend anyone, snicker) Get a friggin life. Do you really think that a god who creates in his own image does'nt also possess humor?? get a life. Had it been christ or buddha people would be laughing about all kinds of things.


Gary   May 20th, 2010 2:32 pm ET

As I see it, Islam is *their* religion, belief, whatever. It is NOT mine. Hence, their rules, laws, and customs do not apply to me.

If they believe that no representation of their Prophet should be made, that's fine. Let no one who believes their laws, rules or customs make such a representation.

I am not bound by their laws or beliefs. They are not bound by my beliefs and do not have to follow what I believe, and have no right to tell me how to think, just as I have no right to tell them how to think.

However, if I do something that is contrary to their beliefs, it is inappropriate for them to declare vengeance and death on me for exercising my beliefs and freedoms.

How many of you have heard of some other religion or political party threatening, and attempting, to kill people for violation of their beliefs. Oh, the nut cases abound, like those radicals who threatened to shoot certain politicians after the Health Care Reform bill passed, but AS A WHOLE, what other organized group threatens individuals who do not believe as they do for breaking a law, rule or custom that are only held by those individuals.

This is clearly an indication that no other thought pattern, no other belief, no other value set can be tolerated. In my book, that makes Islam very intolerant, worse than the militants we have seen in history. This makes them worse than Nazis, the KKK, and even dictatorships like North Korea or Cuba.

Draw Mohammad Day may be inciting, but only to those who are without the ability to think for themselves.


Joe The Plumber   May 20th, 2010 2:32 pm ET

That being said. I would not waste my time drawing that child molester perv they call a prophet


he aint no prophet   May 20th, 2010 2:33 pm ET

My new marketing idea... Quran toilet paper.


Andy Post   May 20th, 2010 2:33 pm ET

The First Amendment protects freedom of speech, but it also protects freedom of religion. If such provocation as occurring on Facebook now leads to violence, American anger and desire for vengeance could well function as an impediment to practicing Islam in the States. We cannot allow that.

Freedom of religion is as important as freedom of speech. Both must be respected, and both must be exercised responsibly. This is not a game.


illusion2009   May 20th, 2010 2:33 pm ET

I am a hindu. Folks eating beef is very offensive to me. Are you going to ban cow slaughter because people of my religion find it offensive? Are you going to stop eating beef? Respect my beliefs and I'll respect yours.


me   May 20th, 2010 2:33 pm ET

A religion that advocates beheading for disbelievers, deserves to be shunned in any way.


An Atheist! Behead him!   May 20th, 2010 2:33 pm ET

American May 20th, 2010 2:31 pm ET

Holocaust was a COMPLETE LIE. [freedom of speech].

Osama Bin Laden going to be next president of USA. [freedom of speech].

Pope going to accept Islam very soon. [Freedom of Speech]
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Oh, no! You've offended my poor widdle sensibilities. You must be beheaded!


mmi16   May 20th, 2010 2:33 pm ET

If the image can't stand the light of day....it isn't worth much.


Greg   May 20th, 2010 2:34 pm ET

Thats why I can't stand any religion. All it does is create differences and develops intolerance over a not guaranteed rewarded faith. No one has any more of a super spiritual idea more than you or me. When are the religious gonna wake up?


micrbu   May 20th, 2010 2:36 pm ET

Everyone who can needs to be at ground zero 6 June 2010 to protest mega mosque being built right next to ground zero! This is a symbol of islamic supremacism and conquest!! Muslims are doing this to show the world that they are winning. Americans must stand against this abomination!!!!


Imran Khan   May 20th, 2010 2:36 pm ET

I just wanted to let everyone know who have participated in "Draw Mohammed" Contest that all muslims have to respect all Prophets including Jesus and Moses. Its a clear message in Quran and thats what muslims have taught and nobody will ever see a muslim make fun of Jesus or Moses so why someone has to come up with the idea of "Draw Mohammed". I just don't understand when Everybody knows from the past experiences that muslim don't have any images of their prophet and if someone try to do that it hurts the feeling of a muslim. Why do we have to cause controversy? We can like or dislike Islam, we can have our views, we can have conversations about religions but when something like image of Mohammed cause rage in muslims I think we should avoid that.


chuck   May 20th, 2010 2:39 pm ET

Love the contest. This is just a reminder to Islamic nations that your authoritarian rules don't apply to us. We are in solidarity with the Danish comic strip artists that are being protected from your followers. We are in solidarity with freedom of and freedom from religion. We are in solidarity with equality to women, gays and all other religions that have crawled out of the middle ages. We celebrate our freedoms at every opportunity and hopefully we can neutralize your archaic totalitarian positions.


vinny   May 20th, 2010 2:39 pm ET

If the Muslims are offended by that page, too bad. No one is pointing a gun to their head and forcing them to look at it.


orly   May 20th, 2010 2:39 pm ET

I dont think people really get the idea behind draw muhammad day. It shows no matter what muslims say about being peaceful and loving, understanding, 'we arent terrorists! We promise!' Just dont criticize us, do that and we cut your head off, display your body to the masses, shot you, fire bomb your house, put a price on your head, etc etc.


John Robertson   May 20th, 2010 2:40 pm ET

Whatever the intent of this is, I can just about guarantee you that it will have turned several thousand more, angry young men against the US and the West in general. This seems more about provoking a response than making a point about censorship, and unfortunately, I think that's exactly what it will do.


Miraj   May 20th, 2010 2:40 pm ET

In all seriousness, if we are truly to have freedom of speech. Why can people not make fun of the holocaust and little children getting burned alive in ovens and on and on and on. Since people are so against setting limits on free speech, I guess there can never be any. I love how people were cheering on SOUTHPARK for freedom of speech but then when that website called them out with their 'threats,' people starting yelling why are these radical so intolerant. Well, they were just withing their rights of freedom of speech retards, o/w they would have been arrested by now. Love Hypocrisy.


Sean   May 20th, 2010 2:40 pm ET

I enjoy the fact that Muslims seem clueless that Jesus has been a hugely popular target of satire in the west for decades ... here's a clip from the end of Monty Python's "Life of Brian" ... odd, the Python team didn't have to go into hiding because fanatical Christians felt insulted

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1loyjm4SOa0&w=640&h=390]


Dave   May 20th, 2010 2:40 pm ET

I drew Sayyid Qutb in a Zoot Suit getting rejected at a dance with the caption: "Birth of radical Islam" instead.


Joe The Plumber   May 20th, 2010 2:41 pm ET

So its an image thing. So you're saying all Muslims are that shallow and narcissistic.


The Walrus   May 20th, 2010 2:41 pm ET

An Atheist...haha I love your comment. Hell is actually in Michigan...Hell, Michigan 48169...great place to go.

People who believe in such nonsense are nonsensical.


america phuck yea   May 20th, 2010 2:41 pm ET

um hello! because of a radical few a couple thousand innocent people are dead! extermination of the race and religion is necessary


An Atheist! Behead him!   May 20th, 2010 2:41 pm ET

Imran Khan May 20th, 2010 2:36 pm ET

We can like or dislike Islam, we can have our views, we can have conversations about religions but when something like image of Mohammed cause rage in muslims I think we should avoid that.
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The point is that it shouldn't provoke rage. Drawing a cartoon should not have led to the death of the Danish cartoonists, but it did. Islam tries to spread itself and its oppression over the world one step at a time. For example, every day the Muslim countries are trying to pass legislation at the UN making it a crime to speak out against Islam. Then what's next? Making it an international crime to be an infidel?

There is zero reason for anyone to tolerate this foolish fairy tale any longer. There is zero reason to tolerate any more honor killings. There is zero reason to tolerate the dozens of people killed WEEKLY in suicide bombings and marketplace shootings. There is zero reason to tolerate Islam as long as it wishes to chain civilization in the 8th century.


American   May 20th, 2010 2:41 pm ET

To all people who think its a freedom of speech.

Why all the western media went against the Iranian President when he told the truth to the media that ..

Holocaust is a COMPLETE lie.
and
Israel doesn't exist on a world map ..


Mohammad's Follower   May 20th, 2010 2:42 pm ET

Dear Brothers and sisters all over the World.
Let us refelect upon this controversial attempt by some ignorant group of people. I hope if these people start digging about the life of beloved prophet Mohammad (Peace be upon him), they will certainly get educated and enlightened. All the prophets from Adam through Noah, Abraham, Jacob, Joseph, Solomon, Moses, Jesus and the last Prophet Mohammad (Peace be upon them all), were chosen among the human beings by Almighty God for delivering the message of true religion of Monothesim, the comprehensive and perfect ideology of freedom from all types of bondages that are harm and detrimental to the human society and to all the biosphere.
Let us make the difference and start reading and get the enlightment from the revered biographies of all prophets. Rather than to divide the humanity let us unite it by the true, the common message from all prophets of God. We will end up with a peaceful, respectful and free world devoid of hatred and expolitation. May God guide all of us to the true path, the path that will lead us the the highest place of Paradise.

Your muslim bother


Get Knowledge   May 20th, 2010 2:43 pm ET

Mike-

I dislike both, it's just that there haven't been many Christians going out of their way to bomb girls' schools lately.
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No because christians are too busy molesting little boys.......


JJC   May 20th, 2010 2:43 pm ET

I think people are mistaking respecting others beliefs and being forced at gun point to do so. Muslims say we have to respect their beliefs or they will kill us. Keep in mind as well, how can you respect two conficting beliefs? If one persons religion says that they can not view a womans bare ankle, and another religion says that all women must bare their ankle, then how can you "respect" both? Maybe you could argue that Muslims can have their belief that no MUSLIM should draw their prophet. But how in the world can the Muslims belief be that NO ONE can draw their prohpet regardless of the persons belief. They need to respect OUR American beliefs of freedom as much as we need to respect their beliefs. How can they expect respect when they do not respect our belief that people can be free to express themselves? They need to stick to subjegating their own people and leave us alone. If you do not like our freedoms then do not interact with us.


Khaled Bebo   May 20th, 2010 2:43 pm ET

You americans just don't get it. In Islam you can not draw ANY of the prophets or allah. Not Muhammad, Jesus, Moses, Abraham or anyone. Because as history has shown it has led to idol worship, as is the case with many christians and jews, and muslims are not supposed to worship anyone but Allah(god). And the only reason draw jesus day would be a huge hit is because Jesus is regularly depicted(as a white man, which is incorrect) in christianity because christianity does not bar the portrayal of him. So stop pretending that if the Bible strictly banned the depiction's of Jesus that Christians wouldn't be up in arms if people purposefully depicted him in an offensive manner. And for the record, even pictures praising Muhammad are forbidden and fought against.


Jack   May 20th, 2010 2:44 pm ET

Doesn't it say in the Quran that MUSLIMS aren't allowed to depict Mohammad? Anyway, all the other religions get made fun of by other people all the time, why are Muslims special? Stop living in the 13th century. The crusades are over, stop getting butthurt over everything.


Whc4   May 20th, 2010 2:44 pm ET

Enough with the religious tolerance crap. Religion does not command any more respect than any other belief or opinion – period. It is only sacred to those who practice it and they are free to treat it thusly. However, the rest of us are more than free to do otherwise. If you believe your god is mighty, he can defend himself without your help.

This goes for ANY religion. It's time to get passed this unwarranted reverence. Enough!


Mike   May 20th, 2010 2:45 pm ET

Get Knowledge May 20th, 2010 2:43 pm ET

Mike-

I dislike both, it's just that there haven't been many Christians going out of their way to bomb girls' schools lately.
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No because christians are too busy molesting little boys.......
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Don't get me wrong, I've been sending plenty of contempt to the Church over that as well. It's like religious Whack-A-Mole.


Miraj   May 20th, 2010 2:45 pm ET

Wait did someone just say that Muslims have killed more people than anyone????????? Have you ever heard of the Crusades, the Iraq war, Afghanistan, The Bosnian war, WWI, WWII, and the ATOMIC BOMB! LOL, you are nuts.


Yas   May 20th, 2010 2:46 pm ET

@Khaled Bebo, well said.

@Jack, it isn't me that's making fun of other religions. Why are you making fun of mine? Conservative Muslims do not diss other religions but in this case, it is our believes being disregarded too.


Mario   May 20th, 2010 2:46 pm ET

Freedom of speech? How would everyone feel if we 'draw' pictures of planes crashing into world trade centre or people jumping of that building. Or drawing pictures of Hutu's raping and killing Tutusi women and children.
All you idiots out there needs to understand that its not about freedom of speech. And if it is, let Iranian president talks all he wants about 'wiping out' Israel. Why such hypocrisy?


Dave   May 20th, 2010 2:47 pm ET

"Whats the big deal??? You don't see Christians threatening to MURDER innocent people over something so small and insignificant as a drawing of Jesus do you??"

well, as a matter of fact, the christian religion is evrey bit as blood thirsty as Islam. Did you never hear of the crusades? Christians have been killing muslims for a very long time.

Being without religion, I really don't care. You can all kill each. Just please get it done and over with. The worlds needs neither group.


Honestmuslim   May 20th, 2010 2:48 pm ET

Interestingly, the person who is being drawn directed his followers to respect all religion, which I guess they do.

Would be interesting to see facebook's reaction (and hyprocrisy) if somebody were to start a group for holocaust denial.


Ron   May 20th, 2010 2:48 pm ET

If Muslims threaten to kill anyone that offends them, doesn't that mean they have no respect for human life? So why should they deserve any form of respect?


Kevin   May 20th, 2010 2:48 pm ET

A few weeks ago CNN had a poll on its page asking if Comedy Central should have a show with Jesus on it.

The votes were overwhelmingly against it – something like 80% no.

Are Christians and Americans REALLY more enlightened than Muslims? I don't think so.


Miraj   May 20th, 2010 2:49 pm ET

RIGHT ON MARIO and HONEST MUSLIM!


fred   May 20th, 2010 2:49 pm ET

Meela said: islam comes from word salaam, which means peace. the only thing islam teaches is peace. if you have doubt check the history. you can see who started all the major wars in history.
not muslims.
please increase your knowledge. learn more about islam.

http://islamqa.com/en/

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I'm pretty sure it was Osama Bin Laden who said, "Acquiring nukes for Islam is a religious duty."


Joe The Plumber   May 20th, 2010 2:49 pm ET

To Mohammad's Follower:

Why dont I feel all peachy and rosey inside, cause I believe what you are saying is full of ___!

To Khaled Bebo:

I would say i think and think how I feel cause millions of brave Americans died to give it to me that right.


EqualOpportunity   May 20th, 2010 2:49 pm ET

I should also mention that the Jewish people have been negatively caricatured by both Christians and Muslims for the last 2000 years, so the "Draw Jews Day" idea is as equally ridiculous and Draw Mohammed Day or Draw Jesus Day.

Let's just be American... how about that? E Pluribus Unum... remember that?! We should be the Great Melting Pot, not a TV Dinner Tray (whites over there, blacks over there, hispanics over there, asians over there, etc., etc., etc.)..


Matt   May 20th, 2010 2:49 pm ET

Why is it against the rules to hurt someone's feelings? I personally don't go around doing it, but if someone wants to draw a religious figure to practice free speech then do it. And if looking at those drawings is offensive, THEN DON'T LOOK AT THE DRAWINGS.


Some Guy   May 20th, 2010 2:50 pm ET

Mohammed May 20th, 2010 1:07 pm ET
This guys posting absolutely makes sense.
BTW, Folks, If you visit Istanbul , turkey, Please pay extra bucks to visit the TOP KAPI place and then and additional ticket for the treasury.
Inside the treasury is a lot of loot and gold. But prized amongst them is artifacts from Mohammads letter apparently written in Blood ( Not sure about the details). Also is a very threatening letter written to the coptic king of egypt demanding that he and his country convert to islam or something like that. So go figure it out if islam is peaceful or not.

BTW Istanbul is a very cosmopolitan city. Jews, Muslims ( Modern and Traditional ) & Christians (including orthodox ) live side by side peacefully. Modern turkish society is a perfect example of a very reformed islam. In fact the tour guides proudly take you to a square where a synagouge, orthodox church and a mosque are all within a few steps away facing each other. THere has not been a religious riot there and each one respects the beliefs and faith of other. No one is imposing or insulting each other.

Also people should read about Attaturk and what he did post ottoman turkish era. Thinking out of the box, its great to see such variety is comments from the whole spectrum of rage to modesty to humility . I am sure that out of this discussion and social awakening it will lead to something better and the victor will be humanity and sanity.


NoRez   May 20th, 2010 2:50 pm ET

It's just so appalling that Muslims, sorry, "Radical Muslims" haven't learned what so many of us who advocate TRUE free speech did as children; that as long as you show the bully that he's bothering you, he'll keep doing it.

And yeah Meela, if people want to have a make fun of the holocaust, or anything, they should have that right. IF IT BOTHERS YOU, WALK AWAY. In a TRUE peaceful fashion.


Warpig   May 20th, 2010 2:51 pm ET

If you don't like it then you don't have to look at it. No one is forcing anyone to look at any pictures. So I don't see what the big deal is.


An Atheist! Behead him!   May 20th, 2010 2:51 pm ET

Dave May 20th, 2010 2:47 pm ET

Being without religion, I really don't care. You can all kill each. Just please get it done and over with. The worlds needs neither group.
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The younger generations coming up are definitely living predominantly without religion, so I think it's just a matter of time before old people die off, the young (and agnostic at best) replace them, and religion falls by the wayside.


rita   May 20th, 2010 2:51 pm ET

They wanted to have a drawing contest for the hijab, chador, niqab, burqa and abaya, but they realized that there is only one way to draw them. That is, with no expressionistic liberty. Mostly with a black marker and no embellishments. Where was the fun in that? So, they settled on Mohammed Day instead.


PieceForAll   May 20th, 2010 2:51 pm ET

Here is an Idea for all who support this FB distasteful drama: Create another FB page, share it among you, and start drawing insultful pictures of people you love (like, your mom, dad, daughters, sisters etc.), bully each other, and call names. Enjoy the feeling and call it a great achievement int he name of "Freedom of Speech".

If FB had any respect for people's beliefs, it should have shutdown the page by now!! Period.


Miraj   May 20th, 2010 2:52 pm ET

Joe the plumber, LOL, really millions? WOW you really must be joe the plumber.


Batorava Musoni   May 20th, 2010 2:52 pm ET

Does the Quran actually say that one shall not draw Mohammed (hope it doesn't say one shall not mispell his name either), or it is just someone else's interpretation of their scripture. If it says that, then, does it mean non-Muslims cannot draw him either, or the rule only applies to Muslims. I suggest you just follow your faith and everything will be alright;you wont be punished for others' sins!!

At one point in my religion, we persercuted anyone who didn't believe that the earth was NOT the center of the universe, until smarter people realised that that was just someone's understanding of scriptures. We don't persecute people who despise us; we pray for them.


Joe The Plumber   May 20th, 2010 2:52 pm ET

Fred,

The major war fought by the west was against oppression and intolerance. Many muslims however are ok with the guy in the robe telling them what to do and think.


Rob   May 20th, 2010 2:52 pm ET

Their religion, their rules. I don't follow the religion, so I'm not going to follow the rules, any more than I plan on keeping Kosher or going to church on Sunday.

And it's not really anyone's business. If I break the rules of your religion, feel free to believe I'm going to Hell; but don't try to make me behave like you do.


Steve Johnson   May 20th, 2010 2:52 pm ET

The anti-drawing of Mohammed page is absolutely disgusting. It is not a peaceful protest to respectfully stand up for the prophet of Islam, rather it is mostly (not all but mostly) a collection of hateful anti-Christian, anti-Jewish, anti-Western Culture, and especially and anti-Israeli rants by ignorant people. The pro-draw Mohammed page has also degenerated into a disgusting rant against Islam. Rather than just exercising free speech, many of the drawing intentionally try to provoke anger, rather than just promote freedom. Both pages are absolutely disgusting. And no religion is a religion of peace, it's all about how the people interpret it and act upon it. So really any religion can or cannot be of peace.


therm   May 20th, 2010 2:53 pm ET

Again Mario,

Saying you're going to kill the people of Israel is not the same as criticizing religion, one is a threat and one is an opinion. Also, when Ahmadinejad says the Holocaust didn't happen, that's freedom of speech too, except that it's a lie because it contradicts the known facts. Lies are what freedom of speech weeds out as ignorant ramblings.


Crusty biker   May 20th, 2010 2:53 pm ET

Muslims don't have dipictions of that Mohomed feller at all not even in their movies. Turns out it is not right for even Muslims to have pictures of this guy so why should we?
Yea they are a little over the top when it comes to drawing him but thats their right and their religion so we should all play nice Ok?


K.T.   May 20th, 2010 2:53 pm ET

Why don't you Islam bashers read a book for once? OUR government constantly bashes Islam because that is simply their agenda. Think for yourselves instead of taking bits and pieces from the QUARAN and taking it waaaaaay out of context to support your ignorant comments. READ,PEOPLE!! The VERY SMALL percentage of people who commit acts of "terror" are not Muslims,and use Islam as a base for their actions. There are MANY Christian and Jewish extremist groups out there,both domestic and abroad. We never hear of them simply because our "media" will not report on it. The focus is getting Americans to hate Islam,so they can continue to support Israel,and invade helpless Arab and Muslim countries so they can steal their resources and establish a presence in the Middle East. Our country is the biggest supporter of Israel. We,as American tax payers pay billions of dollars a year to Israel. Ask yourselves why? Israelis massacre the Palestinians on a daily basis,but do we EVER hear the American media mention it? US tanks and missles are being used to destroy the Palestinians daily,and all we ever hear about Israel is a random "suicide bomber" once in a while. The cut off their water and electricity supply,deny medical care,destroy schools,kill women and children every single day,humiliate and/or kill ever single day. Ask yourselves why our government supports that? Look into this stuff,read,investigate,and research this from both sides. THEN FORM AN OPINION!


SoS   May 20th, 2010 2:54 pm ET

What people don't seem to understand about Everybody Draw Mohammed Day is that it IS about religious tolerance. Those Muslims who say the world must abide by their beliefs don't have religious tolerance. Those of us who understand the spirit of this day do and are merely pointing out this fact.

It is a ridiculous idea to say that a non-Muslim must adhere to the beliefs of Islam. It is a Muslim rule to not depict Mohammed, which does not apply to the rest of the world. Those people who think it does apply to everyone are either fools or religious zealots.

That's like saying:

1) No one in the world can drink coffee because it is against the mormon faith.
2) No one in the world can eat pork because it is against the Jewish and Muslim faiths.
3) No one in the world can kill any living thing (yes that includes bugs and animals) because it is against the Buddhist faith.

You people need to get over yourselves and try using that brain that whichever god you choose to worship gave you.


Eddy   May 20th, 2010 2:54 pm ET

1. Only a few strict Muslims are against the drawing of Mohammed
2. Even fewer would do anything harmful to anyone drawing Mohammed
3. Only a handful of totally insane radical terrorists, that happen to be Muslims and use their religion to justify their actions would kill someone over it
4. The facebook group that created the "draw Mohammed day" are a bunch of bored idiots out to stir the pot, which they have successfully done


An Atheist! Behead him!   May 20th, 2010 2:54 pm ET

PieceForAll May 20th, 2010 2:51 pm ET

Here is an Idea for all who support this FB distasteful drama: Create another FB page, share it among you, and start drawing insultful pictures of people you love (like, your mom, dad, daughters, sisters etc.), bully each other, and call names. Enjoy the feeling and call it a great achievement int he name of "Freedom of Speech".

If FB had any respect for people's beliefs, it should have shutdown the page by now!! Period.
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Maybe Facebook has enough respect for all the victims of Islam to override political correctness and finally allow a backlash against Islamic barbarism.


jim   May 20th, 2010 2:54 pm ET

It IS possible to have freedom of speech without using it in the most offensive way you can find.


Sam   May 20th, 2010 2:55 pm ET

What makes Religion so untouchable to ridicule? Stop being so PC, and get a pair.


K.T.   May 20th, 2010 2:55 pm ET

D


m johnson   May 20th, 2010 2:55 pm ET

I for one am really glad someone made a facebook site like this. Not because I would feel like drawing a picture (which I cannot), but because it allows you to see into the psyche of the people involved. So go to the facebook site where they are against the draw Muhammed site – I would venture to say that 90+% of the people adding comments are saying kill the infidels (in some form or another). and that is supposedly coming from the peaceful folks. Which is exactly the whole point. despite all the rhetoric about being a peaceful religion or that a "few bad" extremists spoil it for the rest, the fact is that Islamists will never be satisfied sharing the world with people of other viewpoints and have absolutely no tolerance for any other religions or even people who have no religion. They would be happiest if all non-believers were removed from the face of the earth. They have no sense of humor, are insulted by abolsutely anything that in any way demeans the Koran, and really offer no progessive ideas for bettering the world. Somebody tell me something that an islamic movement or country has done lately to improve world peace, help struggling nations with natural disasters, improve religious harmony, etc. Just ONE thing – I beg you !!!


Pete   May 20th, 2010 2:56 pm ET

As long as there is no mutual respect between groups of people, there will be no peace.


Russ   May 20th, 2010 2:57 pm ET

wow, I tell ya there are some seriously racist individuals here.

How can you honestly live like that?

zero disrespect for other people and their ways is very unbecoming and truly needs to be stopped.


Joe The Plumber   May 20th, 2010 2:57 pm ET

PieceForAll you are idiot and so is your family for even tolerating you. You made NO logical connection whatsoever.

All least my family wont send a suicide bomber if I disrespect them. They might cease talking to me for good though.


An Atheist! Behead him!   May 20th, 2010 2:57 pm ET

Eddy May 20th, 2010 2:54 pm ET

1. Only a few strict Muslims are against the drawing of Mohammed
2. Even fewer would do anything harmful to anyone drawing Mohammed
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According to the Wikipdea article concerning the original Danish cartoons and the protests that resulted "As of 2 March 2006, at least 139 people have died primarily during riots stemming from protests." That hardly seems to go with your first two points.


American   May 20th, 2010 2:57 pm ET

To therm –

Ahmedinejad didn't go and kill Israelis or took over their land so why ALL western media was going against him, he said used your so-called FREDOM OF SPEECH ..rather when Israel govt actually killed innocent people/kids even the UN members working in there no one objected the way they should. Its really a hypocrisy against muslims!


live and let live   May 20th, 2010 2:57 pm ET

Facebook is a place that people should allowed to express their opinions, beliefs, and feelings regardless of political or religious views. However, what opinion, belief or feeling is this expressing? This is inciteful behavior by untolerant people.

On the flip-side, maybe if radical muslims didn't make death threats to anyone that challenged or made light of their way of life, these people wouldn't go to these extremes.

Bottom line: two wrongs do not make a right, but you can't take it, don't dish it out.


meela   May 20th, 2010 2:57 pm ET

fred said: "I'm pretty sure it was Osama Bin Laden who said, "Acquiring nukes for Islam is a religious duty."

fred are judging islam by quoting osama bin laden?
ok nice.
hilter also killed 6million jews. that's also in bible then.


Jim   May 20th, 2010 2:57 pm ET

Doug, maybe you should recheck. Most of the people the signed up at the "AGAINST Everybody Draw Mohammed Day," are making fun of the group, not supporting them. You have to sign up to post.


Miraj   May 20th, 2010 2:58 pm ET

I live in Europe where I go to jail if I publicly deny the Holocaust and have been denied my right to wear a headscarf? I love my FREEDOMS given to me by my Christian and Jewish friends. Thank you!


USA#1   May 20th, 2010 2:58 pm ET

Why do we cater to the Muslim people/religion when they clearly have no regard for any other religious group or humanity in general? Dam it they don’t even understand their own religion correctly. It is ridiculous that our children no longer pledge allegiance to our flag in schools because the Muslim community did not like the word "GOD" in the pledge. I’m sick of Muslims I am sick of the news talking about Muslims – Muslims get out, stay out and never be seen or heard again.


kent   May 20th, 2010 2:59 pm ET

@ W62: "pick on muslim hijab. Don't they have freedom to choose how to dress? You can do whatever you want to do in the name of freedom, while I can't even choose my dress. It's 100% hypocrasy."

You don't get it - people pick on people who just plain LOOK (or dress) differently from themselves. E.g., I'm a straight male, but other guys sometimes make fun of me if I wear a pink shirt or pale blue slacks. It's not religion. It's not lifestyle. It's just .... DIFFERENT.

But I have the freedom to wear whatever colors I want, just as Muslims have freedom to wear their hajibs. It just doesn't mean we're free from being ridiculed by small-minded people.


therm   May 20th, 2010 2:59 pm ET

Know Peace, No Delusion
No Peace, Know Delusion


fred   May 20th, 2010 2:59 pm ET

An Atheist! Behead him! May 20th, 2010 2:51 pm ET

Dave May 20th, 2010 2:47 pm ET

Being without religion, I really don't care. You can all kill each. Just please get it done and over with. The worlds needs neither group.
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The younger generations coming up are definitely living predominantly without religion, so I think it's just a matter of time before old people die off, the young (and agnostic at best) replace them, and religion falls by the wayside.
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Not a chance in hell! LOL. Only in a perfect world can we survive without religion. I don't care what religion you follow, I don't want to know you. I definately will teach my children about how life really works and I will not subject them to the fairy tales that people made up thousands of years ago to quench their boredom while also justifying their greed. 16% of Americans do not believe in God, that's a larger percentage than blacks, asians, and jews in our country. So, yes, Americans ARE more enlightened.


DURBEN13   May 20th, 2010 3:00 pm ET

People wake up, non of these 3 Abraham-based religions are the work of god. If there was a god and god was good he wouldn't create religion or another reason for people to hate and kill each other over.
Devil made religions. I don't believe in religion but still try not to offend peoples' beliefs.


Jack   May 20th, 2010 3:00 pm ET

@yas Because you guys have to take your lumps just like everyone else, and it isn't me thats making fun of Islam, I couldn't care less. What irritates me most about Muslims though is they move into a western country, like Britain or France and start telling THEM to respect Islam "or else". Who are you to tell them what to do? Just because you're a little sensitive over something like an icecream wrapper or a picture of a dog in a newspaper? Get over yourselves.


Brian   May 20th, 2010 3:00 pm ET

Maybe this will draw out somel the other "pbuh" that are hiding in our country secretly planning to target our country that they dont belong in. You ever wonder why they are here in the USA? Its because we are the best country and most of them would be in jail over there or dead because they are all child molesters and theives. I can draw one heck of good "mo"hamed, or is it "FROhameed, whatever HER name was.


Truth   May 20th, 2010 3:00 pm ET

This is hilarious. If FB wasn't blocked at work I would draw Mohammed raping his 12-year old wife while his 14-year old wife cooks and cleans, and his 15-year old wife watches his 8 kids!!


Khaled Bebo   May 20th, 2010 3:00 pm ET

To "fred" – it was the United States that hand picked Osama Bin laden to start an opposition group to the socialist(USSR) backed Afghan government in the 1980's. A government that gave liberties to its citizens, distributed the land equally and even had opened up schools for women and were integrating women into society. So you should check your facts about OBL because hes as prominent as he is today because the United States created and funded him.

and to "Joe the Plumber" – you're clearly as uneducated as the rest of conservative and even liberal America because you call muslims terrorist's and yet the United States army(and the christian crusaders way back when) have killed millions more people than todays muslim terrorists have. So yes you're correct in saying that the American army gave you your freedoms you enjoy today, but their methods were no different than those of the muslim terrorists of today. Innocent women and children killed, minorities oppressed, women treated inhumanly. Try reading up on your history before having a conversation with well educated people. You run the risk of sounding illiterate and uneducated.


jim   May 20th, 2010 3:01 pm ET

Sam:
Religion is not untouchable to ridicule, but there should be a point to the ridicule. Stop being so anti-PC and get a brain!


KingGeorge   May 20th, 2010 3:01 pm ET

Maybe this will draw out somel the other "pbuh" that are hiding in our country secretly planning to target our country that they dont belong in. You ever wonder why they are here in the USA? Its because we are the best country and most of them would be in jail over there or dead because they are all child molesters and theives. I can draw one heck of good "mo"hamed, or is it "FROhameed, whatever HER name was.


James   May 20th, 2010 3:01 pm ET

"Let's put together "Draw Jesus taking it in the @$$" Day! It's a celebration of free speech!"

That would be offensive. One can draw Mohamed sitting under a tree preaching peace and eating an apple and they would still be targeted for death, simply for drawing him. the Brooklyn museum featured a drawing of Jesus painted with feces. No one was threatened with death and Rudy was attacked by the media for trying to censor it.


JJC   May 20th, 2010 3:02 pm ET

c( o|o )d <-– Prohet mohammed Going to kill me now?


Miraj   May 20th, 2010 3:02 pm ET

JoethePlumber, even worse, you may send Sarah Palin or yourself. That is far worse than a suicide bomber. If she were ever to get elected as Prez, she would take down a whole nation of 300 million and probably the world.


Mat   May 20th, 2010 3:02 pm ET

Who cares? Someone should draw him a on Cross......


A Dumb Teen   May 20th, 2010 3:02 pm ET

Religion is so 19th century.


therm   May 20th, 2010 3:02 pm ET

American,

You didn't read the prior post, we were talking about the "speech" of killing Israelis, your topic is another story....


Sherry   May 20th, 2010 3:03 pm ET

If there were a page encouraging people to draw swastikas and poke fun at Jews it would be seen as antisemetic. If it were a site asking people to draw pictures of assasination the CIA would be brought in. If it were a site with pictures making fun of slavery it would be racist. All our freedoms have limitations, both legal and moral. This site is horribly wrong and offensive to Muslims and to me EVEN THOUGH I AM NOT A MUSLIM. Shame on those who participate. It is immature and this is why human being can't get along. Absolutely ridiculous.


smith   May 20th, 2010 3:03 pm ET

A Dr. of Comparitive Religions stated quite clearly that anyone telling you that Islam is a religion of peace is either lying to appease you or is ignorant of the teachings from the Koran.

Mohammed's initial teachings were passive and tolerant, but later, as he gained more power, his teachings became more intollerant and violent.

What is interesting here is that if any laws in the Koran contradict each other, a Muslim must use the most recent ones, or, as it were, the more violent ones.

It is this teaching that lures disaffected youths into to suicide bombings.

By the way, it's only bad to use idols if you are Islamic, retards. The rest of us have the freedom of speech. So bomb away, radical Muslims. Many of us die each day for the cause of freedom and we know many more will. Just know that you're not the only ones with staying power.


K.T.   May 20th, 2010 3:03 pm ET

m johnson NEEDS TO READ A BOOK.


Joe The Plumber   May 20th, 2010 3:03 pm ET

To Miraj:

If Europe is so bad why are you there?


powerless   May 20th, 2010 3:03 pm ET

I like to see a drawing depicting Jesus in the form of a dog by anyone claiming to be proponent of freedom of speech and expression. Then only I will believe in his/her commitment to it


RaviK   May 20th, 2010 3:05 pm ET

Our dear Swamiji Dr Commander Selvam Siddhar is the youngest best Swamiji in the whole world. Even Muhammed is our Swamiji's Devottee. Our Swamiji has Hindu Temple and Community Center of High Desert and Shiva Vishnu Temple of Georgia and at leat 51 temples all ove the US. Can Muhammed have so many? Now tell me who is more famous and more powerful. Please call our Swamiji at 888-808-1418 immediately and get his blessings.


K.T.   May 20th, 2010 3:05 pm ET

Smith is a very misguided soul. Where does he get his info?


JJC   May 20th, 2010 3:06 pm ET

c( o|o )d-M <-– Jesus as a dog. There you go. Happy now? There was a picture of jesus made out of feces and no one was killed for it.


randa   May 20th, 2010 3:06 pm ET

Freedom of speech is welcomed when you know what you are talking about. How many of those that draw Mohammed (PBH) know his biography how many have read the koraan and knows what it is talking about. You are only following blindly your misleading politics/ media without really knowing what you are talking about. You created what you call terrorists. You are not terrorists when you bombed several countries after the 9/11, which was a reaction of one of your terrorist act somewhere. or for you it is a self defense and for others it is terrorism. I am against any attack on innocent people. But let's be objective and fair. The islam is not a religion only for moslems it is a message for everybody to tell us all that we are all one nation and that we should worship one God. This is the core message of islam you are fighting blindly without really knowing it. It did not come with something different from what you originally should have. God will not send different messages to confuse nations and let them fight each. The islam never forced anybody to become moslem in the early time of islam or after. several versus in the Koraan are clearly stating that moslem have their own religion and other have their own. They only defended themselves and spread the islam ,those that converted were welcomed and the others stayed on their own beliefs, like coptic and jews, in countries the islam entered (Yamen, Ethiopia,Egypt ,etc.). Nobody was forced to convert please read objectively the history. Human being cannot believe by force. Beliefs is between the person and himself.


B   May 20th, 2010 3:06 pm ET

Before crying blasphemy over facebook's actions, muslims should do a little introspection. How many muslims have read and understood the quran. Can anyone deny that the quran is full of verses that are derogatory to other religions? if muslims expect the world to refrain from saying anything against prophet muhammad and islam, are they willing to take out offensive and discriminatory verses from the quran? if not, then they dont have a right to cry murder..the non muslim world is only retaliating to something islam started in the first place. If the non muslim world were to behave similarly, then the first step would be to ban the quran itself as it is blasphemous to all religions other than islam

How many muslims walked the street condemning the taliban bombing of the bamiyan buddha statues in afghanistan? I guess none

Respect cannot be gained by demanding it – you give respect and automatically get it in return.


freedMind   May 20th, 2010 3:08 pm ET

Religion is not sacred, freedom of expression is.


K.T.   May 20th, 2010 3:08 pm ET

Powerless is right on. Let's see how Christians react to that.


RaviK   May 20th, 2010 3:08 pm ET

Our Swamiji can cure everything from neck pains to mother in law problems to bankruptcy to immigration problems.

Our Swamiji is Dr Commander Selvam Siddhar Swamiji fondlingly called Commander Selvam. He bilt 51 temples in every state in this great country. Prophet Mohammed is nothing compared to our Swamiji.

Call now 1-888-808-1418 for all your problems.


Joe The Plumber   May 20th, 2010 3:08 pm ET

here is the truth guys:

Mohammed was a common thug who need a following and so to get things going and gain acceptance he could not be a thug, he had to appear as lamb and what better to do it to accept the majority of the teachings of the Jewish religion so as not to create attention and make people think you just another good old boy.

A modern politician in othewards.


Blake Liam   May 20th, 2010 3:08 pm ET

sharad said: don't understand why freedom of expression is so important. I think it is important, but aren't there more serious issues like famine, drought, disease, etc. around the world that we easily act ignorant. But a compromise on freedom of speech – my GOD – that is like the end of the world!

yes.. you clearly don't understand.. and nobody expects you to..

how about this.. Muslims stop killing people over the images of their prophet and take on more serious issues like famine, drought, disease etc.. I hear the middle east is riddled with these problems...

In the mean time, the rest of the worlds countries that solved these issues, (Canada, US, Europe), will work on freedom of speech. You know.. that thing where your allowed to say whatever you think and feel without the worries of a be-heading.


Kalster   May 20th, 2010 3:09 pm ET

I don't believe in intentionally offending anyone. I would also not participate in drawing a cartoon of the Prophet Mohammed because I know people would find it objectionable, and why would I want to do that anyway? If I may propose a theory to my Muslim brothers and sisters (I am a Christian): this whole Facebook thing may not really be about doing anything agaist your Phophet. I think it may have more to do with challenging your reactions to such things. I think perhaps that non-Muslims have a hard time understanding the fury and anger that Muslims feel on the subject. As a comparison, think about this: most Christians would say, I believe, that they love Jesus very much, and I am sure you would not be surprised by this. However, if some offensive drawing or other depiction of Jesus was made (it happens from time to time) many people would be offended by it, but I think the reaction would be more personal, with the perpetrators being consider "idiots" and dismissed a such. Who cares about the opinions of stupid people? But you would not be hearing calls for riots and for people's execution, or the burning of flags in the street. This does not mean that we love Jesus less than Muslims love their Prophet. It's just that we have a different reaction. Some stupid person really can't "insult" Jesus....he is beyond being insulted. In the same light, even non-Muslims know that Mohammed is truly a huge figure in history, and is beyond being insulted by someone who wants to draw a stupid picture of him. So I think the conversation should really be about the differences in culture that impact our interpretations of things like this. Does this resonate with anybody?


American   May 20th, 2010 3:09 pm ET

JJC May 20th, 2010 3:06 pm ET

c( o|o )d-M <-– Jesus as a dog. There you go. Happy now? There was a picture of jesus made out of feces and no one was killed for it.

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Well you guys don't respect Prophet Jesus either..


Olga   May 20th, 2010 3:09 pm ET

I have been a Muslim for 16 years; I converted from Catholicism which is the religion that I was raised in. My entire family with the exception of my husband and son are either Catholic, Protestant, Lutheran, etc. All Christian. As a Muslim and a human being, I find this "Draw Mohamed Day" extremely insulting, hurtful, disrespectful, hatefilled and just down right mean!

Contrary to many of the posts I see on this and what the so-called respected media outlets choose to post, Islam is not a religion that preaches violence or hatred! If it was, then I think everyone would be in big trouble since there are more than 1.2 billion Muslims in the world today. In case some of you who just choose to insult us don't know, we respect ALL PROPHETS, not just Mohamed (PBUH). If I see any derogatory image of Jesus or Moses, I would feel the exact same way as I do right now - INSULTED!!!

I don't believe this is preaching "Freedom of Speech", it is preaching "FREEDOM TO MALICIOUSLY INSULT ANOTHER FAITH AND ITS FOLLOWERS". You don't like our religion? That's fine, no one is forcing you to become a Muslim. However, you don't have to insult us by portraying our prophet in cartoons!

I am all for freedom of speech. I am originally from Cuba and my family and I had to immigrate to the U.S. from Cuba when I was a child because my family was not communist and my father was a political prisoner for 9 years. So, if anyone is against censorship, it is me, but there is a fine line between freedom of speech and freedom to incite and promote hatred towards someone's faith.

What I also find funny is that I'm sure the person responsible for this idea, would not think of portraying a cartoon of an African American like "Uncle Tom" or even portray the Jews in a negative light, because then that would be called racism or anti-semitism, but it's ok to attack Muslims.

BTW, I have heard so much negativity about the Catholic Church and all it's pedophyle priests. I have always maintained that it is not the religion that promotes this sick behavior, but rather the individuals who are sick and demented. I don't condone the acts of the Muslims who kill innocent people either. Maybe this is a lesson that should be learned, i.e. one cannot hold an entire religion responsible for the acts of a few!!

Lastly, how come there is no page dedicated to all the neo nazis, skin heads and white supremacists who HATE EVERYONE, WANT TO OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT, AND WANT TO KILL ALL THE BLACKS, HISPANICS, JEWS, ETC. ???? THESE IGNORANT, UNEDUCATED PEOPLE ARE LEFT ALONE - BUT THE MUSLIMS HAVE TO CONTINUE TO ENDURE THIS BASHING OF OUR RELIGION!!!

Very sad to see that many people in this world are still promoting hatred and bigotry. Obviously, the people who took the time to make those derogatory drawings have nothing better to do with their lives.


ali   May 20th, 2010 3:10 pm ET

disrespectful one billion Muslim , hurt one billion peoples call freedom of speech....you can write about the customs which you don't like u can talk other stuff but you cannot curse PROPHET.....I LOVE ALL MESSENGER OF GOD. I BELIEVE JESUS,MUSES AND ALL MESSENGER OF GOD. I LOVE THEM RESPECT THEM I RESPECT ALL RELIGIONS.
I DEACTIVATE MY FB ACCOUNT TILL THE PAGE IS DOWN......


Ugh   May 20th, 2010 3:10 pm ET

Good grief.


Eric   May 20th, 2010 3:10 pm ET

Hey muslims, sit down and shut up. The U.S. has free speech. Get used to it. The internet has a censor button at your finger tips. Simply click the mouse and it will all go away. And please, stop threatening people in this country. We are not afraid of your self rightous murder based on a 2000 year old fable. Amazing how many muslims there are here...so why would you want to live with the infidels? Go back to your oppressive, murderous, religious zealot countries.


Khaled Bebo   May 20th, 2010 3:10 pm ET

For god sakes the Qur'an says that NO ONE can depict Muhammad. He is not to be depicted period. for those of you who can't understand this I'll spell it out for you. it means – that CHRISTIANS, JEWS, MUSLIMS HINUDS BUDDHISTS ATHEISTS AGNOSTICS WHOEVER, can not depict Muhammad. So yes it is supposed to apply to everyone, and no, clearly not everyone has to follow it. And all you christians stop denying that your religion is anymore bloody than Islam. You say Muhammad spread religion by the sword, try reading up on what Constantine(who presided over the largest increase in Christianity in history) did to those who conquered and to those who refused to convert to Christianity. It is even well noted in jewish society that jews would lie and say they were Christian just to avoid being killed because anyone who did not convert was MURDERED by Constantine. read people, its not that hard. No religion is perfect and definitely NO RELIGION is truly peaceful and was spread by only peaceful ways.


RaviK   May 20th, 2010 3:10 pm ET

Our Swamiji can cure everything from neck pains to mother in law problems to bankruptcy to immigration problems.

Our Swamiji is Dr Commander Selvam Siddhar Swamiji fondlingly called Commander Selvam. He bilt 51 temples in every state in this great country.

Prophet Mohammed is nothing compared to our Swamiji.

Call now 1-888-808-1418 for all your problems.


summer   May 20th, 2010 3:11 pm ET

Why don't people just keep their religions to themselves. This is getting really old. We have wars over religion, people are killed over religion, we have to say or not say things because of religion, etc. etc. It is ridiculous! I mean, who the heck is this Mohammad anyway and who really cares if he is to be drawn or depicted....WHO CARES! Same for the Bible thumpers...keep it to yourselves....no one wants saved.
The only thing that religion does is tear people and societies apart. I will draw Mohammad and invite ANYONE TO STOP ME!!!!!


Sheikh Abid (Lahore, Pakistan)   May 20th, 2010 3:11 pm ET

May ALLAH bring that person to very very very badly painfull dead end as we expected who create our HOLY PROPHET (PBUH) drawing. they did not know that what were they do and they will goes to very very big problems till death and ahead .. because OUR ALLAH and OUR HOLY PROPHET they are very power full and strong authorities.... no any person in this world ever compitate them ever and forever.... OUR ALLAH and OUR GREATEST RESPECTFULL PROPHET MOHAMMAD PBUH they are very very very very RESPECTABLE personalities above then our Parents.... INSHAALLAH ALLAH give painfull punish to that kind of person in this world and at the day of Judgement ...AAMIN...SUMMAAMIN
no one person could not safe this person who create this kind of drawing either they locate in any corner of the world... no police no army and other persons...etc, because death is any where ahh at ur back... death angle coming towards to us .... anytime anywhere....
because in QURAN PAK ... " MOAT KAA ZIAQA HAR NAFAS KO CHAKHNA HAI.." so get ready for that....
ALLAH O AKBAR
YAA RASOOL UL ALLAH ....(PBUH)....


Booza   May 20th, 2010 3:11 pm ET

Facebook has given people a chance to stand together and voice there opinion and defuse terrorisms main weapon, fear. The problem is that this is directed toward an entire religion and not just the extremests. On the other hand I belive that Muslams are allowing terrorist to be the face of their religion. It time for them to clean out there own house and gain the respect I am sure they deserve.


Miraj   May 20th, 2010 3:12 pm ET

I was born in France and converted to Islam 3 years ago. I always hated the religion until I started reading.....reading, reading, what a concept....I think Sarah Palin doesn't read from what I remember from her Katie Couric interview.

To all people who understand the vileness of this site and facebook's decision that this is not racist/bigotry, you might as well stop posting here. This has turned into a forum for the TEA PARTY and NEOCONS. peace to all and As-Salaamu-Alaikum my brothers and sisters.


bdjohnso   May 20th, 2010 3:12 pm ET

can anyone say car bomb? i say racial profile anytime you want. lets quit letting americans get killed


Noocrat from MN   May 20th, 2010 3:13 pm ET

You know, I'm all for freedom of religion and the separation of church and state....which sadly doesn't exist but oh well.

Anyway, I'm just as antireligion as any good atheist but the thing everyone's ignoring here is the other view point. This act is the equivalent of burning a cross or US flag. Mohammad, for a variety of reasons, commanded he never be depicted (mostly to prove he did not seek fame). Every crazed church-going American has at one point or another spewed something out that Jesus supposedly said as if is fact and law.

You would be mad if you were in there shoes too. However, because you aren't bothering to see where they're coming from you continually to act ignorantly pretentious because you're on the winning end of an offensive gesture.


fred   May 20th, 2010 3:13 pm ET

Khaled Bebo May 20th, 2010 3:00 pm ET

To "fred" – it was the United States that hand picked Osama Bin laden to start an opposition group to the socialist(USSR) backed Afghan government in the 1980's. A government that gave liberties to its citizens, distributed the land equally and even had opened up schools for women and were integrating women into society. So you should check your facts about OBL because hes as prominent as he is today because the United States created and funded him.
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I know all of this. Oh and I just checked my facts, yep, Osama still said, "Acquiring nukes for Islam is a religious duty." And, yes, I also understand that Christianity is the most corrupt religion out there. Including stealing the entire story of Jesus.


felix   May 20th, 2010 3:14 pm ET

I haven't read Koran, but is it true that mohammed married a 9 year-old girl while he was alive? I read with a heavy heart the testimony of a nigerian lunatic who asserted that he wedded a 13 year-old Egyptian girl because Mohammed did son to a 9 year-old girl in the koran. I need answer from a moderate, civilized and well-informed muslim.


utterdisbelief   May 20th, 2010 3:14 pm ET

I am in utter disbelief at the disrespectful stereotyping happening here. Do you really think ALL Muslims want people dead who are "non-believers?" Do you really think ALL Muslims support terrorism? It would be like saying ALL Christians support violence against the LGBT community, or ALL Christians support white supremacy, or ALL Christians support the idea that all "non-believers" are damned to hell.

For those who are spewing such extremist points of view against Muslims and the Muslim faith, you are no better than Bin Laden. You support the death and destruction of an entire religion and those who follow it! Look in the mirror folks. What you will see is not pretty!

And no, I am neither Christian NOR Muslim. I just believe that "God" is Love and Creation (NOT as in the story of Genesis, however) and that if we just took the time to see each other as fellow humans and NOT subjects of hate and ridicule we would all be MUCH better off.


MikinAZ   May 20th, 2010 3:15 pm ET

Will Dick Cheney sue to have the page (that I am a fan of) called, "Tell Dick Cheney to shut the hell up"?....will Sarah Palin sue to have the page (that I am a fan of) called "Keeping Sarah Palin off the Discovery Channel?...will FOXNews sue to have the page (that I am a fan of) called "FoxNews Isnt Really News"? – there is one more I am a fan of ..something about glenn beck being insane or a moron – will he ask that page be removed too? No – none of them will. Respecting someone's beliefs goes both ways...respect for others beliefs about mohammad...(what they picture in their head) To another comment about "make fun of Jesus day" – all for it...no religeon or person is immune to others having and sharing their opinion on it...especially if they think it is stupid to believe in a magical, all seeing/hearing, mythical super being – Ahh Freedom!


Joe The Plumber   May 20th, 2010 3:15 pm ET

How do I get a bunch of idiots with no clue to follow my orders to make me some money through stealing and raiding, and sleep will with their 11 year old daughters (or was that 9).

I know!!!... invent a religion and call myself the appointed one.


An Atheist! Behead him!   May 20th, 2010 3:16 pm ET

jim May 20th, 2010 2:54 pm ET

It IS possible to have freedom of speech without using it in the most offensive way you can find.
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Yeah, I'm pretty moderate in my speech against the company that made my defective toaster. I also use pretty moderate speech in saying that I prefer boot cut jeans to bell bottoms.

Islam doesn't warrant moderate speech. I have complete desire to deride and ridicule and speak out in the most offensive of language
against a religion that perpetrates "honor" killings, the oppression of women, and not to mention the horrific violence that extremists perpetrate against infidels and others who don't interpret the Koran properly.


therm   May 20th, 2010 3:16 pm ET

Khaled Bebo,

Could you please make a comprehensive list of all the things the rest of us are supposed to do to be in compliance of your delusions and then post that. And anyone else who has stipulations and agendas that feel they have been slighted, please, make lists, all of you, and post them so we can carry them around as reference, depending on where we are at the time. Thank you.


Sharmeen Haque   May 20th, 2010 3:16 pm ET

As a Muslim American, I find this page not only offensive to my Muslim beliefs but also to my American Beliefs. Just as Islam has been hijacked by people doing reprehensible deeds in its name, I think the notion of Freedom of Speech has been hijacked by clueless, thoughtless, ignorant people. Freedom of Speech DOES NOT MEAN attacking other peoples religion or way of life. It was intended to protect our rights as Americans, as People, not to incite Hate and bigotry.
I implore Facebook to show some corporate responsibility and take down not only this page but any page that incites hate or bigotry AGAINST ANY Religion or ethnic group.
Thier spokesman comment "We want Facebook to be a place where people can openly discuss issues and express their views, while respecting the rights and feelings of others," makes this page violate the terms of FB. THIS PAGE DOES NOT RESPECT MY FEELINGS as a Muslim nor my Rights as an American.


david123   May 20th, 2010 3:16 pm ET

At least two European cartoonists live under police protection after drawing Mohammed
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Insane!


Austin   May 20th, 2010 3:16 pm ET

They should be offensive, cutting necks is pretty much the most offensive gesture you can do. got your feelings hurt by a picture, oh cry me a river, someone in your religion, and in fact enough of them to be a stereotype, puts up videos cutting off heads and suicide bombings and you have the audacity to say its a religion of peace?

Give me a break, let our pictures incite you to violence so the Ameican army can roll over your house in a tank and you and your stupid violent tendencies can turn into crushed bone in asphalt over which we build a McDonalds, because thats whats going to happen if you keep trying to bully other religions into fear of their own lives.


Dave   May 20th, 2010 3:17 pm ET

I think radical Islam is worshiping idols. Mohammed wouldn't teach what they do and they use Mohammed as a cover for the Devil's work. They are also using God's name in vain by doing this. Using God’s name in vain has nothing to do with profanity, it means don’t do things in the name of God that are unholy like the sin of murder.


fred   May 20th, 2010 3:18 pm ET

Khaled Bebo May 20th, 2010 3:10 pm ET

For god sakes the Qur'an says that NO ONE can depict Muhammad. He is not to be depicted period. for those of you who can't understand this I'll spell it out for you. it means – that CHRISTIANS, JEWS, MUSLIMS HINUDS BUDDHISTS ATHEISTS AGNOSTICS WHOEVER, can not depict Muhammad. So yes it is supposed to apply to everyone, and no, clearly not everyone has to follow it. And all you christians stop denying that your religion is anymore bloody than Islam. You say Muhammad spread religion by the sword, try reading up on what Constantine(who presided over the largest increase in Christianity in history) did to those who conquered and to those who refused to convert to Christianity. It is even well noted in jewish society that jews would lie and say they were Christian just to avoid being killed because anyone who did not convert was MURDERED by Constantine. read people, its not that hard. No religion is perfect and definitely NO RELIGION is truly peaceful and was spread by only peaceful ways.
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This is why I say down with ALL religion and those who preach or follow. There is no good that comes out of it. THERE IS NO GOD. The fact that no one can agree proves it.


An Atheist! Behead him!   May 20th, 2010 3:18 pm ET

Miraj May 20th, 2010 3:12 pm ET

I was born in France and converted to Islam 3 years ago. I always hated the religion until I started reading.....reading, reading, what a concept....I think Sarah Palin doesn't read from what I remember from her Katie Couric interview.

To all people who understand the vileness of this site and facebook's decision that this is not racist/bigotry, you might as well stop posting here. This has turned into a forum for the TEA PARTY and NEOCONS. peace to all and As-Salaamu-Alaikum my brothers and sisters.
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Oh, you're in France? Don't you have cars to burn and shop windows to smash? Get to it.


Lawrence   May 20th, 2010 3:19 pm ET

Yes, I expect all Muslims to respect my customs.

All Muslims countries must celebrate all the religious holidays/festivals I celebrate, or the countries should be banned!

For example, we should ask the Taliban to stop fighting on Christmas.


Khaled Bebo   May 20th, 2010 3:19 pm ET

To 'fred' once again – Did the Klu Klux Klan not say that killing minorities was a morale cause and that white people should do it to claim power over everyone else? I do not believe that the Klu Klux Klan speaks for all white people, do you? Just because Bin Laden says something doesn't mean any of us follow it. Osama Bin Laden is a terrorist, no one denies this. Hes killed thousands more Muslims than Christians or Americans. And trust me, if all, or even 10% of muslims were terrorists, there would be nobody left on this earth. There anywhere from 1.8 billion to 2 billion muslims in the world, you do the math as to what 10% of that is.


haqmau   May 20th, 2010 3:19 pm ET

come-on folks, this is NOT freedom of speech this is sad, heartbreaking and irresponsible. I know many of us have been f***ing around, making threats, blowing ourselves and a lot more but these f****ing folks are insignificant. But WHY I am paying an emotional price (yes, I am Muslim) for those fanatics? In process of taunting these minuscule idiots you are ignoring me who can also be killed by the same idiots for doing things they believe I should not be doing. People writing against Muslim or Islam should consider the feelings of the folks like me rather than idiots who want to blow everyone.


Gary   May 20th, 2010 3:19 pm ET

One question: Muslims say other religion are non- believers or kafir......But Islams is the youngest of all other religion and they were the one who did not believe in other religion...Technically speaking they are kaffirs.

I even suspect that this guy Mo was their first convert, when he was not allowed to to practice his habits.


An Atheist! Behead him!   May 20th, 2010 3:20 pm ET

Lawrence May 20th, 2010 3:19 pm ET

Yes, I expect all Muslims to respect my customs.

All Muslims countries must celebrate all the religious holidays/festivals I celebrate, or the countries should be banned!

For example, we should ask the Taliban to stop fighting on Christmas.
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Yes, and please respect our customs of not bringing bombs on planes as well.


Khaled Bebo   May 20th, 2010 3:21 pm ET

Idk 'fred' I wouldnt say that there is no god. But you share my sentiment that if there was why would he allow this to happen.I believe strongly that all the religions are real. Its just a matter fo fact that man corrupted them to their own advantage, Unfortunately god, if there is one, has decided to stand idly by.


scarlett   May 20th, 2010 3:22 pm ET

i am angry and not because somebody started a page on facebook to draw Mohammad but that by doing so they have given yet another chance to the radical muslims to show their violence in the form of words and possibly actions. moderate muslims who make most of the muslim population are cringing yet again in their seats as they read about more people misjudging them and making them out to be who they're not and ofcourse waiting for another round of bashing from the west while being bunched up alongside these radicals ;who these moderate muslims want as much as any other peace loving person to basically stop exisitng so that they can live in peace and integrate themselves in the modern and educated societies of the world.


luvuall   May 20th, 2010 3:22 pm ET

If you don't want to see the prophet PBUH recreated in drawings, don't look. Some people didn't like when people burned the American Flag either but it was a way for people to express themselves and in the USA freedom to express a viewpoint is more important than a religious belief. If Pakistan wants to block FB, that's the right of that muslim state.


Joe The Plumber   May 20th, 2010 3:22 pm ET

And what so bad about worshipping idols? I worship Benjamin, Lincoln, Grant and Jackson every day and it aint so bad!


Cartman   May 20th, 2010 3:22 pm ET

THERE IS NO ALLAH ! ! ! !


ljg8265   May 20th, 2010 3:23 pm ET

It sounds like alot of people have alot of pent up frustration with, and let me get this straight now, Muslims? The religion of Islam? The Prophet Mohammed? The Islamic terrorists or the Muslim terrorists? The catholic church? The Jews? Facebook? All religion?
Wow! I think we need a timeout!!!
How did drawing the face of Mohammed develop into a debate on the freedom of speech? Who thought of that connection. " Freedom of speech", has and always will be designed as an ambiguous idea at best, created by James Madison to cover an infinite number of debates all ending in the same result: "The right to free speech". Friggin brilliant. Free speech is impossible to quantify. Stop arguing about it.
How did drawing the face of Mohammed develop into muslims killing people over the Islamic religion? Because this is even stupider than the free speech argument. Sounds like people are watching too much fast food news on cable. A little clarity folks. Muslims are not islamic terrorists. and islamic terrorists are the ones killing people. If a muslim man adopts a terrorist mantra then he isnt a muslim any longer, he is an islamic terrorist. JEEESH
And the Catholics (i am one) have absolutely NOTHING to do with this argument. We have plenty of pictures of Jesus and really could do without any of any other prophets or in-laws of God. Thank you.
Oh and I have seen many slaps at the Jews. Come people really? I'll bet not one Jew drew a picture. Which in my opinion leaves a hell of alot of last names ending in vowels of the letter Y. Knock it off!!!
And Facebook. You guys are stupid. Period. You tried to maximize your prophets by doing what every oil company in the country has done: BS us into thinking that there isn't enough oil for the gas prices to go down. So now we just live with it. Facebook is no better than the oil companies. Creating havoc with our privacy as oil companies do with our wallets and, expect us to just settle comfortably into submission by attrition. Allowing this page to be published was a pretty stupid decision. Except for one thing... It got you a whole lot of press and took (for the time being) the focus off how many users have dropped you in the last month (like me) because they did not agree with the new policies.
Louis Giogaia
Eat that retards!!!


Chad   May 20th, 2010 3:23 pm ET

Muslims... GET OVER YOURSELVES!!!


Miraj   May 20th, 2010 3:23 pm ET

Athiest, no all the killing of children and destruction on this side of the hemisphere has reached it's quota after the two wars your country waged here. We're just enjoying your financial meltdown right now :) Thanks for the offer though. You are a good Christian friend.


Hassan   May 20th, 2010 3:24 pm ET

if denying the holocaust can land you in jail then so should this. freedom of speech is a pretext under which the west just tries to hurt muslim sentiment.


Khaled Bebo   May 20th, 2010 3:24 pm ET

"Joe The Plumber" you don't worship any of the founding fathers because you clearly have no Idea as to what they actually believed.


wow....who knew   May 20th, 2010 3:25 pm ET

People have been threatened with death for flag buring......are we stupid for not wanting that to happen? I mean seriously, why are our beilefs and ideals more important than any body else's. I mean, I DO believe thnat their threatening to KILL people over drawings or images is stupid as all outdoors...but why do we have to scoff at their belief that THAT is desecration of their beliefs???? And we o it for what reason, HONESTLY? To prove a point?


felix   May 20th, 2010 3:25 pm ET

Sorry, I meant to write.........testimony of a nigerian lunatic who asserted that he wedded a 13 year-old girl from egypt because in the koran mohammed also married a 9 year-old girl........
I'm greatly disturbed by thisb revelations.


Mark   May 20th, 2010 3:27 pm ET

I think this is an interesting topic. I am not Muslim and don't follow muslim customs. So If I don't follow Muslim customs, if I draw a picture of Mohammed how am I breaking muslim customs? If I draw a picture of Mohammed riding on Jesus' back like a donkey, would that shake your belief in either of the religions? We have freedom of speech and religion. I don't have the right to push my beliefs on you and you don't have the right to push your beliefs on me. Now, just because I say this, does that upset you? It's not meant to, it's meant to be a point of conversation.


fred   May 20th, 2010 3:28 pm ET

Khaled Bebo May 20th, 2010 3:21 pm ET

Idk 'fred' I wouldnt say that there is no god. But you share my sentiment that if there was why would he allow this to happen.I believe strongly that all the religions are real. Its just a matter fo fact that man corrupted them to their own advantage, Unfortunately god, if there is one, has decided to stand idly by.
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Well, I suppose its possible that there is a God, but until I have a revelation from him (and not from someone else, such as the bible), then I will continue to stand behind my beliefs that "he" does not exist. Science has disproven a lot, most notably evolution.


therm   May 20th, 2010 3:28 pm ET

Hassan,

Anyone can deny the Holocaust in the USA and not go to jail because of freedom of speech. Where do they go to jail for saying that? Here, we just ignore people like that because it shows their ignorance, but it is freedom of speech. If you want to be free to tell lies, there there you go. Your standing in the community will probably go down, but it's your choice.


SWEET!   May 20th, 2010 3:28 pm ET

muslims are sensitive to the portrayal of their prohpet. We as americans attack any weakness we find, thus challenging anyone who is not us to find and attack ours. The game is on b!tches!


Shocked   May 20th, 2010 3:29 pm ET

There will always be crazy people in every religious group but to mock, condemn, and purposely provoke people is wrong. We should be looking for common ground to knit together our respective cultures. Perhaps the Golden Rule would be a good starting place. Think how you would feel if something or somebody you held dear was mocked and disparaged. By the way, the Muslim people I've worked with have been smart, funny, honest, and generous. It pains me to see this hate here, and to think they are reading it.


CharlesV   May 20th, 2010 3:29 pm ET

What all you guys fail to realize is that not drawing The MUSLIM prophet Mohamed is a MUSLIM belief...My customs and religion say nothin about it...So if a Muslim wants to not draw his holy prophet..more power to him..I aint a Muslim..so I can draw whatever I want when ever I want to...Its not my faith...And who are you to feel you have the right to force your beliefs on me?...What am I supose to be afraid of you because I made a drawing of YOUR prophet..and one of you might blow himself up...yeah ok...don't let the new hearts and minds America fool you...deep down inside we are still the country that dropped 2 atom bombs on people we didnt like....you should be afraid of us...


Disapointed   May 20th, 2010 3:30 pm ET

Wow. I haven't seen so many hateful and racist comments in a long time. It must be tough to be a Muslim in America now. Listen carefully. All Muslims are not terrorists. And all terrorists are not Muslim. And *gasp* some Muslims are even American.

Yes, we have freedom of speech. Living in America all my life, I really haven't seen anyone argue with that. But, the point of freedom of speech not to attack others. Yes, the KKK is protected, and that's part of the package, but that doesn't mean it’s okay that we all go down that road. Of course the pictures are protected under the freedom of speech and I doubt they'll be taken down, but don't act so surprised when someone gets offended. Oh, and by the way, America is a country, not the world, and freedom of speech does not apply globally, so Pakistan has the right to do whatever they want to, being a completely different country and all. How facebook intends to take legal action against a foreign nation, I have no idea.

Personally, I'm an atheist, and think the world would be a lot better place without any religion. But, I'm not about to run around telling people to stop worshiping the invisible man in the sky, just because it would be protected by freedom of speech. Live and let live.


Mohammed   May 20th, 2010 3:30 pm ET

How dare you to poke fun at our child molesting, woman abusing prophet. We Muslim will pop this earth out of existent.


Freedom of speech   May 20th, 2010 3:31 pm ET

Freedom of speech, OK, question the holocaust and let’s see what happens to you? Criticize Israel and then let’s talk about freedom of speech! Heck, our congress doesn't enjoy freedom of speech when to it comes to many issues including Israel.

Utter hypocrisy!! that’s what it is!!


RaviK   May 20th, 2010 3:31 pm ET

All muslims now follow Dr Commander Selvam Siddhar Swamiji of Duluth, GA as their LIVING GOD. Even Mohammed followed Dr Commander Selvam always and he says that in the quran. Please call 1-888-808-1418 for all your problems.

Our Swamiji can cure everything from neck pains to mother in law problems to bankruptcy to immigration problems.

Our Swamiji is Dr Commander Selvam Siddhar Swamiji fondlingly called Commander Selvam. He bilt 51 temples in every state in this great country. Prophet Mohammed is nothing compared to our Swamiji.

Call now 1-888-808-1418 for all your problems.


Miraj   May 20th, 2010 3:32 pm ET

So CHARLESV, you are bragging you killed hundereds of thousands of innocent children and women? Fantastic, and you are not a radical?


Matthew   May 20th, 2010 3:32 pm ET

I am so tired of hearing about this if the Muslims dont like whats being done dont look for it I am not against the Muslim people if you want to do what you want to do thats fine if you want to make fun of Jesus thats ok too nothing in this world is sacred anymore anything and everything is up to be made fun of so just accept it and join in or dont look for it everyone needs to stop whining about it and thats not just about Muslims but Christians, Jews, everyone if you cant take the taunting dont watch or do look to find it just to get mad.


Los Angeles   May 20th, 2010 3:32 pm ET

I think this FB thing has gotten out of hand. Then again, i think this religion thing has gotten out of hand as well. I believe in freedom of speech and I also believe that people have the right to choose their own religious beliefs... but for someone purposely offend a different religion, they'd have to have no morals. At the same time, I do not wage a riot when someone makes fun of Catholicism. I guess some people never learned the meaning of "Stick and stones may break my bones but words (and drawings, for that matter) will never hurt me."


RaviK   May 20th, 2010 3:33 pm ET

All muslims now follow Dr Commander Selvam Siddhar Swamiji of Duluth, GA as their LIVING GOD. Even Mohammed followed Dr Commander Selvam always and he says that in the quran. Please call 1-888-808-1418 for all your problems.

Our Swamiji can cure everything from neck pains to mother in law problems to bankruptcy to immigration problems.

Our Swamiji is Dr Commander Selvam Siddhar Swamiji fondlingly called Commander Selvam. He bilt 51 temples in every state in this great country. Prophet Mohammed is nothing compared to our Swamiji.

Call now 1-888-808-1418 for all your problems.


Joe The Plumber   May 20th, 2010 3:33 pm ET

I personally would like to drop my own drawings of mohamlester instead of bombs!!!


THE TRUTH AND THATS IT   May 20th, 2010 3:35 pm ET

IF THIS WAS DRAW A PICTURE OF JESUS ( THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE GOD) INSTEAD OF SOME MADE UP TOWEL HEADED, LONG DIRTY BEARDED, SAND DWELLING PSYCHO, NO ONE WOULD SAY ANYTHING! SCREW ISLAM THERE ARE THE REASON WE ARE AT WAR. THEY COMMIT ALL THE TERROR ATTACKS OF THE WORLD. THEY HATE, HATE AMERICA! THEY CARE ABOUT NOTHING BUT THEMSELVES AND THEIR DIRTY LIFESTYLES. EVERYTIME THERE IS A TERRORIST ATTACK THEY PRAISE ALLAH. ARE YOU KIDDING ME!? WHAT KIND OF RELIGION DWELLS ON VIOLENCE?? YOU PEOPLE ARE NUTSS


ron   May 20th, 2010 3:35 pm ET

There is no Allah, no virgins(Islam countries don't have any) Many are child molesters( marry 7-8 year olds) and nastier then the french and that says a lot right there. Screw Mohammed..oh, sorry, i forgot about gays


Ziad   May 20th, 2010 3:35 pm ET

What Facebook needs to do is to treat acts of pure hatred, racism and discriminations equally and should not be treated as a form of free speech. For example, would a day called make fun of Jews or blacks, Hindos, Buhdists .. etc. considered a form of protected free speech? I think not. so why a day meant to be make fun of Muslims a protected free speech. I think that Facebook is very wrong in its decision to treat a Muslim issue with a double standard. Facebook needs to understand that it needs to give equal treatment to Muslims by protecting them from Hatred and discrimination like it would protect any other religion from being targeted. I am sure that if we started a contest to draw the most representative swastika, Facebook will stop it. Furthermore, technologies like Facebook are meant to bring people together not drive a bigger widge.


Dan, TX   May 20th, 2010 3:35 pm ET

Rand Paul just got done explaining to us that even if you find something offensive, we have to protect free speech no matter what. Don't you people listen?

By the way there is no God, so why should we even pay attention to any religion.


Noah   May 20th, 2010 3:35 pm ET

RaviK

Loser


qiggy   May 20th, 2010 3:37 pm ET

Whenever Mohammed was "depicted", throngs of Muslims rioted, protested, and threatened lives. Meanwhile, every movie, TV show, "work of art" and even cartoons worldwide, all flagrantly attack anything Christian. The rest of the world puts up with being attacked and threatened while placating Muslim sensibilities. Muslims could vocally and strongly tell their extremist clan to shut up and learn to live together. Finally, the youth of the world get it and protest the unbalance. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Thank heaven for the internet.


travhops   May 20th, 2010 3:37 pm ET

This is stupid and disrespectful. Let's use simple respect. Why not try to understand each other instead of creating animosity? I apologize for this and am ashamed and I am not a Muslim.


Rick   May 20th, 2010 3:37 pm ET

My 7 year old brother is looking for a job...I'm pretty sure he's a shoe-in for a writing position here at CNN.


Jephro   May 20th, 2010 3:38 pm ET

iz all teh ghey.


RR   May 20th, 2010 3:38 pm ET

Why pick on anybody at all, even if their beliefs seem silly? They are still their beliefs, and they should be left alone. I seriously think non-religious people need to get a life. If anything, this shows just how insensitive and self-centered they are. They need a faith in something outside themselves, or at least some constructive hobbies.


Scott in Denver   May 20th, 2010 3:38 pm ET

Thank you religion for creating yet another problem with the world today! You give us so much to talk about, fight over, censor and kill for! How will we ever repay you?


moon627   May 20th, 2010 3:39 pm ET

i could understand the insult to muslims if it were someone of their own faith ridiculing their religion but for them to take offense when it comes from people who dont care and have no belief or esteem for mohammed then they should realize that it is meaningless.

it just goes to show that the people who are making such a fuss are not truly spiritual – they're just blind followers (Lemmings) :(


jephro   May 20th, 2010 3:39 pm ET

the buddy christ still ¡-0wnz0rz-!


meela   May 20th, 2010 3:40 pm ET

freedom of speech:
what if muslim started supporting the idea of holocaust?
what if there is a annual celebration day for holocaust?
what if hilter is considered hero, and great political, an inspirational figure?
what if cartoons are made depicting hitler, humiliating jews?


Noah   May 20th, 2010 3:40 pm ET

Tasteless


Upset   May 20th, 2010 3:40 pm ET

Where would Islam be without oil money. Why, they would be selling heroin like the taliban are. All in the name of god. How many people have died for their god. The only ones who have gained are the rich.


Noah   May 20th, 2010 3:41 pm ET

Don't hate


MikinAZ   May 20th, 2010 3:42 pm ET

Utterdisbelief seems to think it would be crazy to believe, “ALL Christians support the idea that all "non-believers" are damned to hell.”
Lock me up – that is the teaching – if you don’t believe it you’re not a Christian – all religions (that worship a magical superbeing) are crazy anyway and it should open be open season on such ancient thinking.


Michael C   May 20th, 2010 3:42 pm ET

I believe in freedom of speech, but I also believe in tolerance.Why I would never fell compelled to make a drawing, of him, I wouldn't try to forbid it either.I can understand why people don't respect this religion since its fringe elements not only kill those that aren't muslim, but also murders people innocent of wrong doing, in the name of Allah.If you want respect and tolerance, you have to give respect and tolerance.That's how it works.But until muslims reject the ideas of their fringe, from murdering, others for their religious beliefs, I see no acceptance in sight. How can there be a peace between people, without tolerance from all sides for the differences between them.For every person killed in the name of religion, an enemy to your cause or belief is born.No matter which side you find yourself compelled to follow.


therm   May 20th, 2010 3:42 pm ET

meela,

Go ahead. People will just think you're insane and not talk to you, but it's freedom of speech.


Noah   May 20th, 2010 3:43 pm ET

Come on ... you know better


Noah   May 20th, 2010 3:44 pm ET

Whateverrrrrrrrr


Noah   May 20th, 2010 3:45 pm ET

You're just jealous


Jim   May 20th, 2010 3:45 pm ET

I think there is no need to respect Muslim customs if one is not Muslim. If you are in a Muslim country where some behaviors would be offensive, then by all means, respect local customs. We don't all need to be so Muslim PC.


Dan   May 20th, 2010 3:45 pm ET

I think anyone who depicts/draws/paints Jesus or God should be killed. String them up and cut off their heads.
SOUNDS CRAZY........RIGHT???

Muslims should pray for their enemies.
As a Christian, I do.


fred   May 20th, 2010 3:45 pm ET

I live about 30 miles away from Fort Hood, Texas where Nidal Malik Hasan shot and killed 13 Americans. Why is this man regarded as a hero? This accomplished nothing except fuel the sentiment that Islam is a bloodthirsty religion. Don't get me wrong, i was raised Christian and have seen the widespread hypocrisy throughout, but how can anyone claim to be a hero when all they did was kill innocent, unsuspecting victims?


Elisa   May 20th, 2010 3:46 pm ET

They want us to respect thier religion yet they want to build a mosque right next to 9/11 ground zero. And tell me why we should repect Islam when the foundation of their belief is to kill us (infidels)?


ForchunCookie   May 20th, 2010 3:47 pm ET

Supposedly Muslims aren't supposed to depict Muhammed because it could lead to idolatry. Anyone who persecutes, and even kills, people over an image is already practicing idolatry.


Noah   May 20th, 2010 3:47 pm ET

True that


Noah   May 20th, 2010 3:49 pm ET

What??? Take it back


fred   May 20th, 2010 3:51 pm ET

Maybe Hitler was right.


Brian Edwards   May 20th, 2010 3:52 pm ET

Just because YOU CAN does not mean YOU SHOULD. It's perfectly legal for me to walk down the streets shouting racial insults at every minority I encounter. It is not legal for them to react with physical violence to my insults. That's the great thing about America, freedom of speech. But that doesn't mean it is the correct thing for me to do. Oh, and in case you didn't know, there is a difference between "right" and "correct". "Correct" is universally accepted truth, "right" is local to your own belief system. I would much rather be correct than be right.


Noah   May 20th, 2010 3:53 pm ET

I know you're just being the devil's advocate


fred   May 20th, 2010 3:53 pm ET

Kidding of course.


Noah   May 20th, 2010 3:54 pm ET

yeah right


meela   May 20th, 2010 3:56 pm ET

to felix,

visit http://islamqa.com/en/
for your confusion about islam.


sol   May 20th, 2010 3:57 pm ET

I think that this group's constructive message isn't clearly articulated by the media articles I have read thus far.
I understand that it may be wrong for a Muslim to draw Mohammed because of their own practices and customs. They should have the freedom to select their own beliefs and way of life. What I don't take kindly too, and I suspect others feel the same, is that Muslims wish to enforce their beliefs on others.
Especially as an agnostic, I should not be beholden to follow a code and acquiesce to the demands of something as contrived and without proof as religious doctrine. And the penalty for violation of THEIR belief... death... Are you kidding me?


Terry Henderson   May 20th, 2010 3:58 pm ET

Believe me Mohammad never instructed people to do what they have done with his teachings. All religions have this issue. They teach one thing then everyone turns it into some kind of power play to control everyone. It's clear we are a billion years away from a Golden Age. People are too stupid in every country. Yes Even USA, look at the republicans. They are doing the same thing as any fundamentalist group.
Mohammed doesnt care if someone draws a picture of him, thats not what his statement was all about. WAKE UP!


fred   May 20th, 2010 3:58 pm ET

Nidal Malik Hasan shot and killed 13 Americans. Why is this man regarded as a hero? Seriously, I'd like to know why anyone would think that.


free speech with no hate   May 20th, 2010 3:59 pm ET

At first glance I thought this was a good idea. But as I started looking at the posts, I discovered way to much hate & anger. So I decided not to draw.


Blake Liam   May 20th, 2010 3:59 pm ET

I say to the facbook group: Keep it up, provoking the extremists is the only way to bring them out in the open.

To the muslims extremists: Bring it on, you will fail miserably. There is no way you can win and you're clearly not scaring anyone. If anything, threats only encourage this behavior.

There is no compromise, no room for negotiation and no regret. If you act with violence and pray that people who offend you, and only you, burn and suffer in hell, you will reap what you sow. The only solution is for people to act like adults and take things with a grain of salt.

God is immovable. Nothing you can say or do will offend him because he is perfect. He will look down on both the blasphemer and he who commits atrocities in his name with disgust and pity, infidel or not.


GB0130   May 20th, 2010 4:00 pm ET

I feel sorry for muslims. The radical views that so many believe in tarnish that entire religion...it takes the entire concept of religion and defeats the purpose of it. Religion should preach for people to always do good things, be kind to others, respectful to others, be selfless, humble.... Different religions have different perspectives but they should all point to good....it should never point to hate...thats plain evil.

As for facebook – i see the point people are trying to make. It angers people to see others get hateful about drawing a prophet...but remember that the extremists are the ones who call for hate. There are good muslims out there – they are just caught up in a religion tarnished by extremists. Hopefully one day the world will overcome this unnessesary hate and go back to the basics – we are all human, we all breathe the same air, we were all brought here to keep the human race alive. Lets make the future for our children, and childrens children a better place....thats where we should be focusing our energy on


American   May 20th, 2010 4:01 pm ET

Freedom of speech? How would everyone feel if we 'draw' pictures of planes crashing into world trade centre or people jumping of that building. Or drawing pictures of Hutu's raping and killing Tutusi women and children.
All you idiots out there needs to understand that its not about freedom of speech. And if it is, let Iranian president talks all he wants about 'wiping out' Israel. Why such hypocrisy?


fred   May 20th, 2010 4:01 pm ET

Aw, come on Blake. THERE IS NO GOD


An Atheist! Behead him!   May 20th, 2010 4:02 pm ET

This sure is a lot off fuss and fury over a fairy tale.


Terry Henderson   May 20th, 2010 4:02 pm ET

We are ignoring the dink in Iran, its not ok what he says but he's a joke. Israel is going to deal with that soon enough.


Jesus   May 20th, 2010 4:03 pm ET

As a christian I am ashamed for the page. I mean look at us after all we have done to the middle east Muslims still never drew a funny Jesus picture and offensive topics. My christian dudes this pages shows how week and disloyal we are to Jesus and to out fate. Its not a victory but LOSS.


Mike   May 20th, 2010 4:03 pm ET

Why do people insist on engaging in such foolishness when there are still NATO and US soldiers deployed in hotbeds of Islamic extremism? The matter of freedom of expression is irrelevant. This is rampant stupidity. Radical Islamic terrorists have already shown that they have the ability to hit targets in the West. Failing that, there are tens of thousands of our soldiers deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan. Has the world taken leave of its sense?


An Atheist! Behead him!   May 20th, 2010 4:04 pm ET

American May 20th, 2010 4:01 pm ET

All you idiots out there needs to understand that its not about freedom of speech. And if it is, let Iranian president talks all he wants about 'wiping out' Israel. Why such hypocrisy?
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Because the chance that he would nuke Israel is greater than zero.


fred   May 20th, 2010 4:05 pm ET

Jesus May 20th, 2010 4:03 pm ET

As a christian I am ashamed for the page. I mean look at us after all we have done to the middle east Muslims still never drew a funny Jesus picture and offensive topics. My christian dudes this pages shows how week and disloyal we are to Jesus and to out fate. Its not a victory but LOSS.
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You wouldn't be offended by an image of Jesus. You might be if he were engaged in sodomy, but not just an image.


Molly   May 20th, 2010 4:08 pm ET

Wow, lots of excellent comments here! Fantastic.
Molly


Jeff P   May 20th, 2010 4:08 pm ET

To all the followers of Islam using Holocaust denial in their arguments. What?

The Holocaust was an EVENT (which you were probably taught in school not to believe). When people deny the Holocaust do you see millions of Jews in the streets screaming at the top of their lungs for blood? Are there death threats directed at those who deny? Nope.

Islam is a RELIGION. Denying something that you can NEVER prove (don't tell me some BS like "the proof is in the beauty you see around you and your loving brother, etc. etc.) is perfectly reasonable.

And don't tell them that ANY religion is a LOL Religion of Peace, especially Islam and Christianity. Utter BS. Have you ever actually READ the Koran or Bible? Scary stuff! Lots of threats and warnings and murders and retributions for not believing. The worst punishments are for non-believers. Hmmm...

Wake up.

I'm not sure what the followers of Islam are trying to accomplish here. In one sentence you say your religion is peaceful, in the next you recite a verse saying that any non-believers (anyone NOT Islamic) will be slaughtered. Sounds real peaceful to me,

I've learned that to keep my sanity while navigating through this madness which is 'modern' religion I have to just accept the fact that some people need to believe in something 'spiritual' because they can't understand or deal with reality. So I just avoid those people. Reduces my chances of getting stoned, shot, or beheaded, too.


oladi2   May 20th, 2010 4:08 pm ET

I had a Muslim background but I always have this problem with this particular religion establishment. It's just too secrecy?
My father knows quoran from A-Z and whenever I asked him questions, there comes his anger towards my curiousity.

I remember few questions I threw to my father while in Mosque one day, I asked why do we have to face Ka'aba to pray, does that means God is in the east and not in west, north or south?

Also, I asked him why can't they let us take a little piece from the Ka'aba stone to test in the lab?

Why do we need not to draw Mohammed when most of the Arab leaders actually, not only having their faces on photographic papers and TV set everyday, but creating statutes in remembrance of themselves?

And lastly, if my father thinks Prophet Mohammed would rather sent her daughter to school in this age or get her married at the age of 11 or 12?

I think the big problems with many of our Muslims Brothers and Sisters is the fact that we are letting few people using this good religion to enslave us and deprive us of a logical thinking. We need to wake up, question some of the useless doctrines that has nothing to do with our altimate love for Almighty God.

As for me, I'll not trade my free speech for anything.


Some Guy   May 20th, 2010 4:08 pm ET

Mamnoon , You are partly correct & just choose to say what you have been taught in a very myophic skewed manner. Islam only makes some reference of old testament prophets and some weak tolerance towards christianity. Whereas other religions are kafirs or infidels and it is OK to kill tell. On a comparitive scale, Other religions such as Bhaais in Iran, the hindus in pakistan, The jews in Iran , the hindus in Malaysia are more prosecuted than christians. So this is not really respect of all religions ,but a distorted view . Some claim islam is a very tolerant religions. Here is a fact about saudi arabia , which practices the most orthodox from of Islam. In that case there must be true love and respect for all religions. Right ??? Noooooooo...
Christians are asked to cover all their religions paraphenelia like crosses and religios jewellery. Jews would be shot on arrival. Employment advertisements in third world for workers in saudi arabia specifically ask for muslims for first perference and then christians as next. No mention of other religions. But if by chance others like hindus do get offer, its often at lower pay. When hindus arrive in saudi arabia , they have to live in constant fear. During prayer times, all muslims must attend the mosque. Non Muslims cannot walk on streets. They have to sit down exactly when they heard the prayer call. Hindus cannot even bring their pictures of gods or goddess or religious material past customs. It needs to be deposited into trash. I think the same goes for bible also, but not sure. Hindu women cannot display the red dot on their forehead, and asked to dump that in trash on arrival.

In Malaysia, A hindu citizen born and raised in malaysia has lower chance of opportunity to get into choicest schools, or live in choicest neighbor hoods. Government programs are Pro islamic and anti buddist or anti hindu. When some local hindu leaders protested , many of them were arrested without charges and still languishing in jail. Malaysia is by the way one of the more tolerant islamic states. But recently the religious police similar to saudi arabia arrested local malay women at a bar who were drinking and charged them on some silly religious rules.

So My brothers and sisters who claim that islam is tolerant and respectful. I ask you SPEAK THE TRUTH . Where is true tolerance or respect ??? It is just double speak.


ec   May 20th, 2010 4:09 pm ET

draw muhammed day entry:

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( ^ | ^ )
( ( O | O ) )
( ---- V----- )
( ( | ) )
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( | )
( | )
(___________)


Terry Henderson   May 20th, 2010 4:10 pm ET

Everyone can find a million ways to be offended. You people have to get over being offended about everything. Its irrelevant. Its all about how you live your life. Most people seem to ignore that part. Quit making yourselves purposely differently than everyone else. It just makes you want to fight. Get over it. None of this has any affect on how I live my life or how I view others.


Bill   May 20th, 2010 4:12 pm ET

The muslims you are offending by drawing a picture of Mohammed are not the ones that are your enemy. You are Irritating, I don't know, a billion muslims just to defy the ones who hate us. Nothing wrong with taking a stand, but to pretend it doesn't insult people who have done nothing to you shows that you aren't looking at the big picture.

Yes, we are wronged each and every day. Just be sure that when you return fire you aren't shooting at innocents.


An Atheist! Behead him!   May 20th, 2010 4:12 pm ET

Here's my modern art rendition of Mohammad:

_________+
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I'm such a modern art pioneer.


Dan   May 20th, 2010 4:12 pm ET

o
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Thats my pic of him :)


Casey Caldwell   May 20th, 2010 4:12 pm ET

Do I have the Freedom to say, "Screw your dumb religion."? Uh... Yes I do.


randa   May 20th, 2010 4:12 pm ET

Answer to felix. Pls. check at what age your very very very first grand-mother got married, you will find that she got married around 8 years old when there was no schools and girls once they reach maturity get married and become a mother. You will find it was happenning in the last 200-300 years. What about more than 1400 years.


Christionaty   May 20th, 2010 4:13 pm ET

wow face book. wow.
Look at u man. your peeling ones skin off and seeing how he cries.
Man tell ya what I agree with the above statement of Jesus. Oh my God Jesus Christ what will son of God thing for our wrong doers. Sometimes i wanna be a Muslim just like Jacko RIP he knew sometimes about our wrong doers. You don't even know who prophet Moh is, see it in gospel of Jones the original form u will be sorry to have said all those offensive thingies u said.


asdfasdf   May 20th, 2010 4:14 pm ET

One more time we know who are the bad guys. You are to far away from the truth you make fun even with your prophet u believe, Jesus peace be upon him. You have respect for no one ! But don't worry the time will come and people will see who really the bad guys are !


Jaffar   May 20th, 2010 4:15 pm ET

It might be alright "legally" but is it alright morally .. ur right ends where my right starts .. its common sense ..
Right in this very world the so called civilised world put somebody behind the bars just because he said something against Jews .. where was his freedom of speech ? we curse Iranian president ( right or wrong ) all the time for what he says .. he should be given freedom of speech .. an executive in UK lost his job just because he said something about what Israel was doing in Gaza .. he never had the right to speak .. this is all rubbish .. please dont teach us what is right and what is not .. and if u really wanan be champion of civilised world and freedom of speech .. please give this right to everybody ..


Scott in Denver   May 20th, 2010 4:18 pm ET

There is no God, therefore there is no Mohammed. How do I know? I don't know for sure. Conversely, how do you know there is a God? You don't know for sure, either. Let's agree to disagree and move on, okay?


guey   May 20th, 2010 4:19 pm ET

it does not mean that you express the thought that you wanted to post , ,it must be accompanied by respect....respect our religion...


Facebook Hater   May 20th, 2010 4:23 pm ET

Facebook is disgusting.... Let me post a page called Happy Holocaust day and see how long do they keep the page in there.... Its about spreading hate and that's exactly what they did. There is no freedom of speech there. I am deleting my facebook account today. So Long Hater!!!


Terry Henderson   May 20th, 2010 4:23 pm ET

Respect in general to everyone is the key....


Kirth Gersen   May 20th, 2010 4:24 pm ET

People say, "This is terrible! We must respect all religions!"
I disagree, on two grounds:

1. Muslims heap vast disrespect on Hindus. Christians disrespect Scientogists with impunity. All religions disrespect atheists as a matter of course, treating them as second-class citizens, and no one complains except for "angry" people like Richard Dawkins. Well of course he's angry! Until respect runs in all directions, it's more than a bit hypocritical to demand it as a one-way thing.

2. Anyone can always find something to be offended about, if they look for it. Cave in, and anything goes. Cartoons are off-limits? Fine. How will we feel when Muslims demand that we in the West stop eating pork and drinking alcohol because it "offends" them? When they demand that all women in all nations wear the hijab, because its lack "offends" them? When they require that all governments bow to Sharia law, because other systems "offend" them? At some point, we need to say, "Fine, be offended, we're not going to do whatever you tell us." I think it's past time that we did so.


CRC   May 20th, 2010 4:26 pm ET

Muslims/islamacits, if you react to this facebook page, the people who posted is are getting exactly what they want: muslims to get angry and show how ridiculous it is to make non-believers (of the muslim faith) follow your rules.

Muslims worship a meteorite as their most holy site. Doesn't this seem a bit absurd?

By the way, ALL religion is just a man made story for some personal gain. Religion=ignorance.

You don't get angry with people who eat pork, so what is the difference?


Dan   May 20th, 2010 4:27 pm ET

asdfasdf:

Do not speak of and/or draw Jesus or we will kill you!


DEV   May 20th, 2010 4:31 pm ET

Everything offends the muslim religion.. if cartoons are blasphemous whats next, my baby cousins crayola drawings?


naz nabz   May 20th, 2010 4:31 pm ET

to my fellow muslim brothers n sisters....there is no point an arguing with these people coz they will not listen to us on any account. our best option is to let them do what they want, as it is a choice they have made. it is our patients that Allah tallah will see and he loves those who r patient. we will be given our reward in the next life, the eternal life. those who continue to walk along this path of hate will be given their punishment in the next world. at that time they will wish they never took part in such a disgusting act of hate.

this is not about free speech, this is about targeting islam. if it it about freedome why do u ppl have such a strong sence that women who wear a hijab r opressed. infact it is u who is trying to opress them by wanting them to take it off. these woman have a choice to wear it or not. well all i have to say to everyone who is taking part in such disgusting acts is that may Allah tallah show u the right way.


naz nabz   May 20th, 2010 4:33 pm ET

@ dev if u read the artical properly u will c y these imagine r not allowed. plz dont be so ignorant


therm   May 20th, 2010 4:35 pm ET

Scott in Denver,

The proof of the nonexistence of god is this: He is all powerful and omnipotent and created the Universe, but he is so lame that he only gives a few people on the Earth any information of what is going on at all, and then in the form of books that people wrote.

Also, the supposed "intelligent" design of the Cosmos, it's not intelligent at all. In fact, it's a complete mess and we're only barely able to exist within a few percent of the environmental conditions of this rock he stranded us on. Thanks for nothing god.


TerryH   May 20th, 2010 4:43 pm ET

its only people who are dorked up. Making up the rules as they go along.


TerryH   May 20th, 2010 4:44 pm ET

naz nadz, you missed it completely, just keep on starting fights.


speaking of Buddha   May 20th, 2010 4:49 pm ET

If we focus on how to remove the arrow from our chest instead of who shot the arrow, none of any of this would matter.


thatsnuts   May 20th, 2010 4:52 pm ET

Apparently there is a few thousand people with lots of time to draw pictures. Get a life people


Dan   May 20th, 2010 5:01 pm ET

thatsnuts:
its nuts that you have time to comment on blogs. Get a life


Buck Jackson   May 20th, 2010 5:02 pm ET

*left to go buy chalk*


tash   May 20th, 2010 5:02 pm ET

I read a lot of comments where people say they wouldn't draw the cartoon because it is not right, but wouldn't go put out a fatwa. What you have to realize is that most muslims/immigrants living in the US today, love America, love their lives here and believe America has given them what their own countries wouldn't ever be able to. These individuals come from good families and believe in peace and wouldn't hurt a soul. It is usually that one idiot sitting in some hole/cave throwing out a video. You can't penalize the majority of the population due to the actions of some ignorant people.


Alireza   May 20th, 2010 5:03 pm ET

Religion is personal, and no can make others to respect any religion or values!
If you are offended by image of Muhammad, then do not log in to that page!
People are free to post images of Muhammad If they feel like it! Freedom of speech is not negotiable. This facebook page was not created mainly to offend Muslims, but it was created to make a point and defend freedom of speech. Making threats to kill someone, or attack those who draw cartoon within the boundries of their own free countries is not acceptable and requires such response!

Go FREEDOM OF SPEECH!


Real Name Cassius Clay   May 20th, 2010 5:05 pm ET

This is absolutely about free speech. Muslims don't believe in free speech when it comes to their made up prophet. All religions are stupid wastes of time but the muslim one is a particularly evil one. Making their people pray facing a certain direction several times each day. Making women less than men. Not enjoying all the pleasurable things that we have available to us.


Steve Davis   May 20th, 2010 5:06 pm ET

All religions speak of harmony but how true is that?


Jim   May 20th, 2010 5:08 pm ET

Muslims who are offended if I draw their child raping ass-wipe "holy" man can kiss my hairy white ass. And people who argue for these insane "religious" nut jobs can do so too. You all greatly offend me. The difference? I'm not trying to kill you.


Alireza   May 20th, 2010 5:10 pm ET

To Muslims:
Grow up! The time you spend and waite for someone to offend you, and the time you put in to make plans to attack some one, if spent on things that are matter, like science and technology, then you are not angry at every thing that moves and you do not blame your failures on other countries!
The best way to gain respect is work for it and earn it. Mocking other religions and values, killing and making threats to kill, riot, puting stuff on fire, sct will not bring respect for your values!


naz nabz   May 20th, 2010 5:11 pm ET

@ steve quote from the Quran that goes along the lines of...KIlling one person is like killing the whole of humanity and saving the life of one person is like saving the whole of humanity. Islam was speard thru love and peace. A few stupid ppl dont make a representastion of a whole communtiy.


Urooj Ali   May 20th, 2010 5:11 pm ET

I have only One question...................WHY PROPHET MOHAMMAD, may the peace and blessings of ALLAAH(GOD) be uopn him????Why HIM?????Why not some one else?????? WHY? WHY?


Gaptun   May 20th, 2010 5:13 pm ET

@ayesha

Blah Blah Blah....U can do as you please
the US treats Ram, allah and Jesus no different from one another.
The same right that gives you freedom to practice your religion also gives you the right to mock religion. I am a practicising hindu myself and if something hurtful about my religion is shown, I will IGNORE it or laugh it off.
I wont behave like a 7th century moron...this is the US and this is how things will be. if u dont like it, u can get a one-way ticket to Waziristan where you can practise Islam all you want.


Brandon   May 20th, 2010 5:16 pm ET

Yes, people in America and many other countries have the right to say whatever they want,whenever they want, wherever they want.

BUT

That does not make it appropriate to tear down or mock a group of people by attacking something that hold dear (the belief that muhammad should not be shown in an image). That's just a basic premise of being a good human being.

I hate pointless offensive behavior. This is a humorless and cruel activity aimed at mocking a devoted group of people.

Since I see no purpose behind the action that people are taking in this, I cannot see how creating theses offensive images is acceptable.

This issue here is not about FREE SPEECH, but about the way we treat other human beings. Yes we have the right to be heartless and cruel in our speech and actions, but that doesn't mean we have to or should be.

In all I think the way this situation is playing out is a great win for Freedom of Speech and a great loss for common human decency.


Ameen   May 20th, 2010 5:20 pm ET

There is a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge difference between freedom of speech and humiliation. We will criticize people for sticking to their beliefs and not looking 'Americanized' or 'Westernized,' but we forget that we, in the 21st century, still cannot differentiate between freedom of speech and humiliation. When are we going to grow up?


dan   May 20th, 2010 5:21 pm ET

muslims say dont do it, it is disrespectful. so what do people do? hey lets do it anyhow cause it will offend them.....

it isnt freedom of speech, its disrespect and provoking.


Alireza   May 20th, 2010 5:22 pm ET

Muslims are constantly disrespecting other religions and values, they deny freedom to practice religions in Islamic countries, they openly admire Hitler for killing Jews, they call all other religion to be inferior to Islam, and believe followers of other religion will go to "Hell"!!!

They consider none of these to be disrespect? But some stupid cartoons and humorous images are disrespectful?

I am follower of Bahá'í Faith! Did they give me chance to have a normal life their Islamic country? The Bahá'í Faith’s followers are banned from attending school for higher educations, banned from holding government positions, banned from getting business licenses, banned from attending any normal social events, banned from having their own social events, they are not the same in the eye of justice and they never get justice on their side, etc. Read about the challenges the minorities have in Islamic countries?

Where are all these Muslims to object to all the injustice in their own countries?


AC   May 20th, 2010 5:23 pm ET

Why not? Everyone else has been drawn with no backlash or threats. Religion does not need to be taken so seriously as it is dangerous when it is....see our point. Religion runs every facet of your life, there will be distortions and people modifying it for there own purpose.We learned from the Crusades long ago, and you...are stuck in that time period still. I keep hearing that we blame the majority for the actions of a few, well them few seem to be a very large group that are starting trouble in every corner of this earth. Take it upon yourselves to change my perception of your people and their religion, as it has been going on since religion began. Remember, blame the west all you want, but ours is always in reaction to an evil deed.


therm   May 20th, 2010 5:26 pm ET

Could you all please make a comprehensive list of the things the rest of us are supposed to do to be in compliance with your delusions and then post that. And anyone else who has stipulations and agendas that feel
they have been slighted, please, make lists, all of you, and post them so we can carry them around as reference, depending on where we are at the time. Thank you.


Mr Escorter   May 20th, 2010 5:28 pm ET

@naz nabz and the rest of the Muslims....

If you're all so excited for the after life, do us all a favor and get there....today....all at once....NOW


Dan   May 20th, 2010 5:29 pm ET

dan:

don't use my name or I will kill you!


naz nabz   May 20th, 2010 5:30 pm ET

@ Alireza: BLAME THE PEOPLE NOT THE RELIGION. ISLAM DOESNT TEACH SECULARISATION OF PEOPLE COZ THEY R NOT THE SAME RELIGION


Steve Johnson   May 20th, 2010 5:30 pm ET

K.T. is the exact reason why people from the Islamic faith are not trusted. They lie. Period. They exaggerate claims of "Palestinian massacres" to gain a phony sympathy instead of addressing the real issue of the corrupt PA & Hamas who only want power and will do anything to keep it. Stop lying about Israel and take responsibility if you wants results. Otherwise, you let the real problems persist. Israel is by far the most moral, economically succesful, and democratic nation in the Middle East. It's not really up for discussions.


Urooj Ali   May 20th, 2010 5:30 pm ET

Why didn't you guys pick like Osama bin Laden or Mullah Omer or some one else??? Why specifically the most respected and loved personality in the Muslim world?? To me its not freedom of speech, its attacking some one with a specific intention. Every belief comes with a limit and freedom of speech also should have a limit. I hope you guys there see a point!!!!! You guys are talking about freedom of speech, then, why is one held responsible for calling call our African American brothers N – - – -???? That also should be considered as freedom of speech!!


Ian   May 20th, 2010 5:31 pm ET

@ Naz Nabz

First of all, you combined France, and America. France put a law in against women wearing a Hijab, which I don't agree with, you're free to do what ever you want to express yourself...and so am I.

Secondly, the Quran does say it's okay to kill the infidel, "fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war)" guess what, so does every other holy text.

Finally, I think most of our anger/confusion comes from the fact that Muslims seem far more outraged when someone draws a picture of Muhammad, than when the crazy ones start burning things down. A Danish dude draws a cartoon of Muhammad, and American flags and buildings start catching on fire all across the Middle East. Yes, 98% of Muslims are calm, normal people, but you must understand, like every other religion. You are the power base for the crazy people, and in some small way, you represent them.


naz nabz   May 20th, 2010 5:38 pm ET

@ Ian

That quote u have taken out of context...it was meant for the time where the was a war going on between the muslims and the non muslims.

like i said ian...blame the people not the religion for all this burining. and just to be clear islam is a religion of peace...it is not to blame for ppl carrying out such acts.


Apple   May 20th, 2010 5:40 pm ET

@ Ian Do you think it's ok to wear a Hijab while driving? How is someone supposed to ID a driver involved in a hit-and-run if the driver's face is covered up? The more coverage you allow someone to wear, the more advantage a criminal will have in commiting a crime.


Dan   May 20th, 2010 5:40 pm ET

urooj ali:

why dont you ask one of your aferican-american brothers in person.
use the n-- word when you ask them. best of luck!!


pathguy   May 20th, 2010 5:40 pm ET

if one wants respect, he/she/it must respect others. death threat to people because of disrespect is evil and cannot be justified nor tolerated, regardless of religion. using religion as an excuse to kill is as evil and definitely will not sent you to heaven. look into the mirror first before judging others and be offended.
and btw, are women being respected in any religion? many religions make women inferior to men and i think women who comprise half of the population should take offense to that.


Steve Johnson   May 20th, 2010 5:40 pm ET

Yes, yes...the U.S. is not perfect we know, but let's be honest. The biggest double standard in the world exists in the Middle East. Women are basically slaves in Saudia Arabia, Palestinians are shot without a trial because someone in Hamas "suspects" they are spys for Israel, Iran locks up political prisoners and gives them no rights, and I could go on and on and on. The Muslim nations ditsract by blaming the U.S., Western Culture, and of course Israel (and the U.S. and Israel are by far more moral than any Middle Eastern country). The problems comes from the people in the Muslim nations and the mindset within. It really doesn't matter what is written in the Quran, because extremist Muslims will interpret any words they see any way they want. And most Muslims accept this extremism, and would rather blame the U.S. or Israel than take on the real problems within. Some speak out, but not many, and if most did, this would not be as big of a problem.


freedomFORwhat   May 20th, 2010 5:47 pm ET

dan why don't you come and kill me, and see who can kill who


Dan   May 20th, 2010 5:49 pm ET

freedom:

first you have to draw a picture or something...


Steve Johnson   May 20th, 2010 5:51 pm ET

Can someone answer me why parents can name their kids Mohammed? If he is so sacred he can't be drawn, why can his name be used to name some punk Palestinian suicide bomber?


Ian   May 20th, 2010 5:54 pm ET

@ Apple

No, I agree, while taking you picture for an ID (like some crazy lady in Florida tried to do), they need to see your full face. Entering a bank, or some other secured location, that needs to come off as well. If you want to wear it walking around town, going to the supper market, that's fine with me.


Dan   May 20th, 2010 5:54 pm ET

1st. can you draw a picture of a kid named mohammed and not get killed?

2nd. can muslim terrorist eat turkey bacon?

3rd. what if the turket bacon looks like mohammed?


Alethia   May 20th, 2010 5:55 pm ET

As a Christian, I am so sorry about this ridiculous idea of drawing the Prophet Mohammed. I apologize to my Muslim brothers and sisters for some of my fellow Americans' rude behavior.

It's also a terrible example for children to see how hateful and how child-like some adults can be.

I have respect for all religions, those with no religion and for freedom of expression.

But this, my dears, really takes the cake!
I am absolutely revolted by this laughing at someone else's religion.

Hitler began his "career" in politics by mocking the Jews. And first it was cartoons. Jews were depicted as rats. Then other little animals.

Congratulations to those fellow Americans of mine who believe they have a right to try to trample on their neighbors' dignity to satisfy their "self". How brave you are...


saima   May 20th, 2010 6:01 pm ET

To all those people who have encouraged 'Draw Mohammed day', I must say you are not less then all the terrorists who did bring harm to innocents by explosions and bombings.The difference between them and you is that they used bombings to harm people physically and you people in favour of 'Draw Mohammed Day' have used your drawings or so called freedom of speech to attack millions of Muslims emotionally and have shook them and hurt them terribly.

today is the day when i want to say SHAME ON YOU. you know why, because people in this world already are going through some much trouble, pain and suffering, and you have done nothing to help but instead have added more trouble and initiated more anger and frustration around the world.

As far as Mohammed (peace be upon him) is concerned, you guys would never be able to understand the level of respect God,the whole universe and Muslims have for him. So it would be pointless if i say something for him here. I just want say one thing though and that is if you don't give respect to someone who is worthy of high respect like Mohammed(peace be upon him) you lose your own respect and it shows to the world the kind of up bringing and moral values you have. So this way you have disrespected your PARENTS, YOUR FAMILY, YOUR SOCIETY YOU ARE LIVING IN AND ALSO THE SCHOOLING YOU HAD. So last but not the least shame on you.


freedomFORwhat   May 20th, 2010 6:07 pm ET

dan
i like to draw a your mom and jesus naked


Steve Johnson   May 20th, 2010 6:08 pm ET

It's funny how many Muslims are so against "draw Mohammed day" when each day in their lives they constantly depict the most hateful pictures and spread lies about Christians, Jews, and all other non-Muslims. We in the U.S. strap backpacks filled with books on our children, while they strap backpacks with bombs to attack the "infidel". These people are evil.


Steve Johnson   May 20th, 2010 6:12 pm ET

@saima: how can you compare the drawing of Mohammed to the terrorists murdering innocents? Do you really think a Muslim in Iraq who views a picture of Mohammed is suffering the same mental anguish that someone in NY is who lot a loved one in 9/11? Shame on you for being so stupid. Shame on you.


TerryH   May 20th, 2010 6:12 pm ET

clearly nothing will be solved here. Some of these comments clearly show that no intends on getting along anyhow.


Dan   May 20th, 2010 6:13 pm ET

saima:

let me say one thing

a crazy suicide bomber is not even comparable to someone drawing an image of someone they have never seen. i dont give respect to anyone who threatens violence ,period. if you want respect then stop your exteremist brothers and you will have earned it. i will even throw in some virgins...
why does your religion promise virgins to heroes. do you believe your women to be given away like propery or cattle(sorry hindus)??


Name required   May 20th, 2010 6:14 pm ET

This was nothing more or less than some people giving a big middle finger to the monsters who have, and would kill over it. And it's long overdue. If you don't get the joke, or if you can't appreciate the irony, then it's a middle finger to you too because you're part of the problem.

Everytime a non-muslim is publically physically threatened for infringing on Islam's apparently eggshell-fragile religious sensibilities it is a subtle act of terrorism. And it should be reacted to as such. Not with violence, but with things like this to make the point that we aren't scared (well maybe a little scared – after all people have been murdered) and we won't be bullied.


Steve Johnson   May 20th, 2010 6:14 pm ET

And yes Saima, we are better than the terrorists. We express our freedom of speech but don't infringe on others rights. Terrorists don't try to infringe on our lives, they try to end our lives. So again, you are stupid.


freedomFORwhat   May 20th, 2010 6:15 pm ET

dan i will draw jesus pic what can you do, if i see your mom that pic would include her too


Brad   May 20th, 2010 6:16 pm ET

It must really suck for them – they can't threaten to kill one particular person and blocking the site isn't working this time. Imagine the radicals growing mad with anger over the fact that they can't control something: freedom of speech and expression.


Dan   May 20th, 2010 6:16 pm ET

freedom;

ok go ahead.
hey would you draw my mom with mohammed too.....
oh thats right. you cant :(


Dan   May 20th, 2010 6:20 pm ET

my post on here have been sarcastic to make a point.

muslims need to control their own extremist before they try to control our artist.


Steve Johnson   May 20th, 2010 6:21 pm ET

I'm laughing imagining all the fanatics out there trying to resond to hundreds of thousands of people (if not millions) basically saying "f u terrorists...we can do whatever you want and you can't stop us". Hopefully they'll go so crazy their heads will explode (and hopefully no one else be around when it happens). Haha...in your face losers! We win!


Alethia   May 20th, 2010 6:22 pm ET

Saima:

I'm so sorry and apologize to you for the behavior of these barbaric fellow Americans of mine...

Many of us in the USA respect all religions including Islam...


Steve Johnson   May 20th, 2010 6:25 pm ET

To my fellow U.S. citizens: I apologize that Alethia is equating you drawing a picture with a muslim extremist killing someone. Our education system has failed horribly! Again, Saima is pretty much we-tarded.


Lurch   May 20th, 2010 6:26 pm ET

I am all for this. How is it that shows such as Family Guy and South Park mock the christians openly but one episode with mohammed and they try to blow up Times Square? I think we need to level the playing field here a little. Artistic expression should ALWAYS be free.


freedomFORwhat   May 20th, 2010 6:29 pm ET

did you just miss me dan, i said i would draw jesus with your hot mom, and i just DID :)


AC   May 20th, 2010 6:31 pm ET

alethia, please do not apologise for me, as it they who should apoligise for not demanding their governments and their religion do something about this large group of fanatics taking them over, and teaching many young people the same crap. I have lost too many friends on 9/11 and will never forget!!!


Steve Johnson   May 20th, 2010 6:31 pm ET

EVERYONE NOTICE THIS DIFFERENCE: When an American or someone from Western culture disagrees with you, they poke fun at you by being creative. When a Muslim (okay not all, but many) disagrees with you, they try to kill you. Anyone who equates us with them just doesn't get it. Yes, we as Americans aren't perfect. At least we're not murderers and we respect the law. So again, haha, in your face punks! We win (i.e. freedom of speech)!


Alethia   May 20th, 2010 6:36 pm ET

Hello my brave fellow Americans:

To take revenge against the 0.00001% or so of terrorists who call themselves Muslims, you have intentionally hurt the feelings of 99% of innocent Muslims. You are really cowards. Do you think the terrorists will affected by your actions? They have no feelings either. You and them should be put together in the same room.

America is supposed to be the land of the free and home of the brave, right?

You guys (and gals) who are doing this don't deserve to be with majority of Americans who call themselves that.

P.S. Molly Norris has just apologized to Muslims and disassociates herself with Facebook's "Draw Mohammed Day.


ShaZNaCKz   May 20th, 2010 6:37 pm ET

No more Facebook...Come to SPARBE.COM....


Ned brisco   May 20th, 2010 6:38 pm ET

If there was a god, he'd be laughing himself silly over this. Why get so worked up over false prophets???


Urooj Ali   May 20th, 2010 6:39 pm ET

Dan,

Thats what I am saying Dan that where is the freedom of speech when it comes to other races. What is the reason that it is considered racist when we use the "N" word, with all the due apologies to all my fellow African American, brothers and sisters? The reason is respect. Out of respect we don't use that word, so don't you think that our Prophet should be respected too??? He, who never preached terrorism and suicide?? Sould he,just out of respect, shpuld be respected??? What would you do is some draw cartoons of your father or some one you loved dearly?? Would you just turn your face away and walk away?? Please be just and don't be hating!!!!

I am an American Muslim and I love America. I value any American life as I would value mine.

Our religion for sure does not promise "virgins" to the terrorists and the suicide bombers. Infact suicide is considered "Forbidden" in Islam. If bunch of crazy Muslims say that and also practice that it doesn't mean Islam says that. No, Islam for sure, condemns terrorism and suicide. Our Prophet never preached or practiced terrorism or suicide. So please, I again request, please be just!!!!

I don't even know if its worth arguing with all of you. All I hope and pray that this is over and with,without any violence and any more hatred towards a religion which is being targeted by people, who are not REALLY aware what it truely preaches. Don't believe what people say. To believe in something one has to go in the depths to fond the truth.

Peace to everyone. I started this with peace and I am going to end this with peace. I don't hate any one and don't want to be hated!!! Thats all!!!


Ned brisco   May 20th, 2010 6:40 pm ET

Hmmm, maybe it would be better to just have an "Ignore mohammed day"…


Name required   May 20th, 2010 6:41 pm ET

I think many in America are experiencing Muslim anger fatigue (I just made that term up). This episode is nothing more than a non-violent release of the energy and confusion from a life time of being hated by an enemy we've never met. Maybe at some point people start saying, "You already want me to die ("death to America" ring a bell). Maybe I should at least give you a reason so I know why you want to kill me."

And yeah Muslims, stop telling non-Muslims that Islam is a religion of peace. We get it. Try telling your fellow Muslims instead.


Steve Johnson   May 20th, 2010 6:41 pm ET

Actually Alethia, we have helped 99% of innocent Muslims (though the # is probably really not that high, but we'll accept it for now). We're showing the the 1% of bullies who control the 99% of innocent Muslims don't have power. They can't control you. They can be stood up to. So we are showing the innocent that can have the power to stand up for whats right and no be afraid. We are helping them.

Seriously Alethia, you probably think that women being able to drive, divorce or have any human rights is a bad thing. "We don't many to make the Saudis mad, so we should try not to affend the extremists."


PatrickStar   May 20th, 2010 6:43 pm ET

I disagree with hate Groups like this.

No wonder the rest of world has no respect for the United States.

We need to be tolerant, and respect diversity. Instead of spreading hate against people's race, religion, ethnicity, or country of origin.


Gooner Usman   May 20th, 2010 6:44 pm ET

I am a daily user of facebook and youtube But ever since they organized"Everybody Draw Muhammad Day", I quitted facebook. This event is highly offensive to Muslims all over the world. Despite continuos protest, facebook authorities didn't remove the page. they even violated their own policies because Muslims all over the world recorded their protest in mass appeal and asked them to shut the page down immediately. facebook administration is a bunch of hypocrites. who doesn't think their little carelessness can cause big damage.
This is an intellectual Terrorism against Muslims and expect some violent reactions from all over the world.
in my opinion the bans are fully justified. we cannot bear this blasphemy as a muslim.
What if i deny holocaust???
and one thing i 'd like to add more. Whether they draw Muhammad,Jesus and Moses(P.B.U.T) we ll condemn this act of ill mindedness. We respect all the Holy Prophets.


Steve Johnson   May 20th, 2010 6:48 pm ET

It's funny...look at the Muslims come out in full force against "Draw Mohammed Day" yet every day when Muslims are promoting terror and killing others, they are absolutely silent. So here's the lesson: THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT THEMSELVES AND EVERYONE ELSE IS AN INFIDEL!


Abdullah   May 20th, 2010 6:49 pm ET

You know what, I am a practising Muslim too. And yes, many of you guys are right, because some people who are just Muslims by their "names" are not really Muslims. Some muslims decide to bomb innocents, yes, and i have no problem disagreeing with that. However, WHO IN THE HELL said that ll of these muslims are like this. Look, depicting a prophet in Islam, especially depicting our most Beloved prophet (PBUH) is strictly forbidden, just by the fact that we believe it is a form of idol worship. Now, yes, you might not have to believe the same way I do, but since it is considered extremely disrespectful, noone should be given the right to just harass it like this. If you're saying that a lot of Muslims have hatred fuelled inside them, well then some only gain hatred ONLY BECAUSE of these idotic people who decide to mock our religion by creating a "draw Mohammad Day" which would actually encourage this evil act. If these people continue to do that, what more they expect. Yes, some people are threatening to kill, and they may either be right or wrong. However, I choose to just simply protest, because this person is just spreading hatred, fuelling hatred, and creating hatred just because of this action. We Muslims do not have to be violent, and some just continue to kill innocents, which is obviously wrong. However, this DOES NOT mean that we Muslims stay back, and let these people just continue to create hatred, and then blame it on Muslims themselves.


Steve Johnson   May 20th, 2010 6:50 pm ET

Also, think of it this way, which is more offensive to Islam: terrorists killing in the name of the religion daily or someone drawing a cartoon? Well, based on the reactions of the Muslim world drawing a picture of their prophet is a horrible sin, but if someone kills in the name of Islam, it's okay. Yes, terrorism is okay, but drawing is bad. There's the lesson kids!


Why are you offended if you aren't Muslim?   May 20th, 2010 6:51 pm ET

If you aren't Muslim, how the hell does this offend you? Do any of you even know why it's against their religion to show pictures of him? It's so people won't idolize the pictures, rather than the gods. It's not offensive to draw a picture, so shut up and get a clean pair of underwear.


AC   May 20th, 2010 6:54 pm ET

apologized for what? drawing is banned internationally now?
Shoould we take down all our holy drawings in places of worship?
As you can see, her point was made, and the outcome predictable.

I will respect anyone that respects me regardless of religion color etc. and know a few Muslims, unfortunately every one in this country should be looked at closely, as I can assure you that the negative thinking towards the west and our ways is much more than 0.00001%
please remember, we are still at war.

This can and will only be nipped in the bud when they (Muslims) if the majority are peaceful, take it upon themselves to eradicate this way of thinking and perception that is created by none other than their own...and sorry, I just don't see enough action at all by the majority of governments/regimes/dictators in that region, unless pressured by the US and given aid to some extent of course


Steve Johnson   May 20th, 2010 6:55 pm ET

Did you all here about the new facebook group with 100,000 members called "We are Muslim and against Bin Laden and all those terrorists who kill in the name of Islam"? Oh that's right, you probably haven't because it doesn't exist!


Alethia   May 20th, 2010 6:55 pm ET

Steve, you're a real card...if I ever saw one.

You're "helping" innocent Muslims! Give me a break, buddy. If I believe that one, are going to tell me another one?

And don't tell me what "I probably think." I believe in freedom of expression too. But we depend upon civility and tolerance to temper it.

I was brought up to respect other people who are different from me. And that is what makes the good 'ole USA beautiful. Period.


MJ   May 20th, 2010 6:55 pm ET

Muslim response should be derived from lessons learned of Muhammad (P.b.u.h) life.
In the early days of his prophecy Muhammad left Mecca to a small valley town surrounded by high mountains seeking protection from Mecca’s continuous prosecution. He arrived in town and asked for the leader’s if he can live temporarily among them. His request was dined and he was asked to leave immediately to avoid angering Mecca leaders. As he was leaving the leaders watched as teens and kids throw stone and hit Muhammad with sticks. Muhammad sat under a tree outside the town bleeding and in pain. He left his hands to the havens and prayed to Allah it was one of the most emotional prayer known and concluded by saying (O Allah if that was not a sign of your anger on me then I don’t care) . Allah immediately sent the angel Gabriel and one more angel and asked Muhammad if he wish they close the mountains on the town.
Muhammad answer was I pray to Allah to spare this town and its people and to deliver Muslims (believers) from their offspring.
I pray the same for the people drawing the pictures for they do not know.


Sultan Ameer   May 20th, 2010 6:58 pm ET

In Islam there are a handful of people who support extremism, everyone else just want peace with everyone but after this facebook controversy it looks like Americans are not terrorists but they are not peace lovers too as they claim to be.


Mohammed   May 20th, 2010 7:07 pm ET

As all people can see "Alethia" and "saima" are our very loyal little doggies. They do everything to please its' master. Now go and do your thing so you can have 72 virgins.


AC   May 20th, 2010 7:08 pm ET

It's called tolerance alethia, something my faith preaches but seems to be missing in others.


Urooj Ali   May 20th, 2010 7:09 pm ET

If you guys believe its ANGER, sorry to dissaappoint you, its not!!! On the contrary,its just dissappointment in Americans , who claim that they are the most educated, most sophisticated and most peaceful people on the face of this earth,the super power of the world, are actually just the opposite. Sorry but behaving the way we are behaving we are also stooping low!!! I again say that ISLAM DOES NOT PREACH TERRORISM and one day truth will come out in the open!!! insha Allaah(IF ALLAAH wills). And before pointing fingers at Islam and Mohammad (peace be upon him), first find the truth. Did you guys ever pay attention everyone on this page who is defending Islam, they are not defening the acts of terrorism done by the so called muslims.... so please open you minds and hearts and think!!!


Alethia   May 20th, 2010 7:11 pm ET

Dan:

You are really a "hero" speaking in such an abusive manner to that Muslim lady, Saima.

Congratulations, "hero"!


Steve   May 20th, 2010 7:13 pm ET

I love how religion brings everyone together.


AC   May 20th, 2010 7:16 pm ET

isn't it wonderful when there are death threats for drawing a picture with a crayon?


Dan   May 20th, 2010 7:17 pm ET

freedom:

i just drew a picture of your father and mohammed 69ing. Guess who was on top?


Paul Ronco   May 20th, 2010 7:17 pm ET

Someone please tell me what all the "censorship" controversy is about. Last time I checked, neither the states' governments nor the federal government has lifted a finger to keep anyone from drawing Muhammad.


Alethia   May 20th, 2010 7:20 pm ET

Urooj Ali:

Me and my fellow Americans have had so much abundance for so many years and so much freedom that we have become jaded. We have forgotten how to relate to our neighbors in a humane fashion.

I won't exclude myself from the fact that we Americans have become spoiled. I don't know what it is going to take to bring us to a better state. So I'm feeling so sorry that innocent Muslims have been hurt...

AC: Your religion is I'm sure very tolerant, but your hatred is showing through.


chaos   May 20th, 2010 7:22 pm ET

In my religion, it is illegal to use social networking sites or to speak on sundays. Perhaps everyone should repsect my religious beleifs by not speaking on sundays or using social networking sites....right? Or is my religion not counted because there are only a few people practicing my religion. Freedom trumps religion. If we are not free, there is no point to having religion.


AC   May 20th, 2010 7:23 pm ET

urooj, so you are waiting for Allah to make everything right instead of you and your brothers taking action yourself now in setting things right?....This must be the problem. See, we do hold value in this life as well as the afterlife, not just the afterlife


Dan   May 20th, 2010 7:29 pm ET

alethia:

i wasnt abusive. all i said was that muslims should handle the muslim extremist. dont leave your dirty work for the rest of the world.
and that virgins/women are not property or cattle(sorry hindus).

why dont you be a "hero" and stand up to the extremist or are you a coward hiding behind words.
protest the murder of innocents as much as you do a picture.
which is more important to you??


AC   May 20th, 2010 7:33 pm ET

We have forgotten how to relate to our neighbors??????
We are the most generous nation on this earth and get spat at, or worse yet, blown up for it...maybe it is time we take care of our own first. and please, its is not hatred in any way....more like frustration because I am sick and tired of it. And if it were something in our country going on, damn sure something would be done about it.


Omar   May 20th, 2010 7:36 pm ET

They are representing this story wrong. CNN is missing the point. It is not done for the purpose trying to flout religious beliefs. It is done because in a free country we should not have to be afraid of being beheaded or stoned to death for speaking our minds our thoughts or our opinions. No one is above criticism and least of all those who threaten violence. Go to you tube and watch my videos on free speech. I live in a free country and I am not afraid. oblufire


AC   May 20th, 2010 7:37 pm ET

Amen Omar....exactly!!!!!!


david   May 20th, 2010 7:43 pm ET

lets see, they kill 3000 on 9/11, they try to kill as many in the USA as they can. they hate us and our ways. hell yes I am going to insult them, I'm going to try everything i can to GET them. Sometimes I wish I wasn't a good hearted person, maybe I would go do the same to them that they do to us. we are at war and they remind us everday!


Urooj Ali   May 20th, 2010 7:45 pm ET

Ok guys i have to get dinner for my family. Good luck with your blame game!!! That was all this was for me!!!! And everyone, take a chill pill and enjoy!!!!!
Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!! Chow!!!!!!!!!!!!! And SALAM(PEACE)!!!!!!!


Sweattle   May 20th, 2010 7:49 pm ET

As an American I can say that I understand the paranoid people that think this all about freedom of speech. As an intelligent American I can say that the freedom to be stupid and ignorant is alive and well in the US. Any rationally thinking person would accept a law stating it is illegal to burn the US flag. The flag of any country should not be burnt and The Muslim prophet means a lot more to Muslims than a flag means to most Americans. The good that has come out of this whole debacle is that many Muslims are speaking out and saying to just ignore it. CNN should cover that story, and not show the Muslim few that want to execute facebookers.


Alethia   May 20th, 2010 7:50 pm ET

AC: I'm not talking necessarily about Muslims abroad. That fact is, some of my/your neighbors (fellow Americans) could be Muslims.

I'm a Christian, but some of my neighbors are Jewish, Hindu, Muslims and Buddhists. But I consider them neighbors and fellow Americans.

I do agree with that we should take care of our own first. Definitely.

I guess I was a little harsh by saying you had any hatred. I'm sorry.

Yes, the world seems upside-down lately. I know. Can't blame you.

I'm born and raised in the USA and do feel we have become a little spoiled by too much abundance. Perhaps we need to conserve more and pay attention to things close to home more, as you said.

But I feel we need to know eachother, despite our various religions, a little better. I wouldn't mind going to a mosque or a temple or a synagogue once in a while just to connect and join with my neighbors of different religions. I wish they would invite me...


Dan   May 20th, 2010 7:54 pm ET

to all muslims:

my point is that muslims should speak out and take action against the extremist. until you do that you will not get the respect you wish.
the extremist do far more harm to your religion than a drawing. prioritize!
it was not until this FB controversy came up that you spoke out to clarify the teachings of your religion. i encourage all muslims to educate the rest of us about your religion. we only hear from muslims that want to kill us. what would you think if this was all you knew of islam...."death to america".


Alethia   May 20th, 2010 8:01 pm ET

OK, Dan, I was a little harsh on you too. I apologize.

I do agree with you. I'd be interested to learn something constructive about the Muslim religion too. Maybe there ought to be a "Invite Your Neighbor to Your Church/Mosque/Temple/Synagogue Day"...


Dan   May 20th, 2010 8:03 pm ET

muslims dont wait for the rest of the world to take care of your dirty work.
deal with your extremist and we wont have to...
you wont like it if we have to do it for you


Mohammed   May 20th, 2010 8:04 pm ET

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Dan   May 20th, 2010 8:14 pm ET

and with that ladies and gentlemen, i bid you farewell.

whether you draw a picture or blow someone up... we all have to go eat dinner with our families. I hope everyone on here will reflect upon what is important in life and what isnt. at the end of the day everyone just wants to make life easier and better for their loved ones.

"forgive them father for they know not what they do"
JC


Alethia   May 20th, 2010 8:20 pm ET

But Dan, it goes without saying that I am against terrorists who call themselves Muslim.

I am for defending innocent people. Who's suffering the most from terrorism nowadays? Innocent Muslim people from other Muslims who are terrorists.

You should bring yourself up to date on the hundreds of innocent people in Pakistan, for instance, that have been killed and maimed by suicide bombers and their ilk.

Those people are fighting the terrorists like hell. Just check out the media on this. These Muslims ARE taking care of their own "dirty work" as you put it. And it's tragic for them, but they are doing it.


MarcB   May 20th, 2010 8:24 pm ET

Limitations on freedom of speech should never be drawn around religion unless the followers of the religion or group are threatening violence.

The draw mohammed thing is probably in bad taste, but the only reason it is being done is because there are those that do not want to be limited by such an archaic 'rule'.


Dan   May 20th, 2010 8:26 pm ET

there are a billion good muslims. your people should be able to handle the 1% that are extremist. i am glad to hear so many muslims renounce the extremist.
i will pray for anyone fighting terrorism.


Manny   May 20th, 2010 8:29 pm ET

There are so many issues that require our undivided attention, for example, the big oils spill in the Gulf coast, people dying of hunger in all parts of the world, poverty in the richest countries and people devote all this precious time on this ridiculous predicament. But the source of all is Religion. A man made, monopolized way to control the mazes , and at the end of the day is the root of all evil of judgment against one another and violence, contradicting itself since the beginning of time. Rise to the times people because the man made religion is not the answer to our problems. How many more atrocities will be made in the name of religion, another inquisition or maybe a modern crusade, what about a black Friday and get all the non believers. I guess history will be the only one to tell.


Riz   May 20th, 2010 8:37 pm ET

Pakistan and Some states of India had blocked the screening of Da Vinci code as it was hurting the sentiments of the christian minority there,,,,,,for people who say if jokes are always made about Jesus,
who makes them? ......Muslims cannot as a muslim will not be a muslim anymore if he insults the great Prophet Jesus or Moses etc...
Freedom of expression is good but it should have limits......if you neighbour makes fun of your family publically....is that his right or is he being mean?


Siferm   May 20th, 2010 8:37 pm ET

People should just respect others religion or belief, just as people would respect others who are offended with Your Momma jokes or remarks.


Bushpig61   May 20th, 2010 9:06 pm ET

To hell with the pole, how about adult movies? Maybe one where she bangs Mohammad himself!


Peace   May 20th, 2010 9:07 pm ET

First of ALL I am very much disappointed by the Speech of the Admiinistrator of the FaceBook... After Closely Analysis of his Speech i found that he said "When these feelings, or any content reported to us becomes an attack on anyone, including Muslim people, it will be removed and further action may be taken against the person responsible,"
My Humble Request to him is that Closely Look First the Page & then Make such Statement. It doesnt hurted the feelings of Muslims but it has hurted the feeling of those soul who Respect PROPHET.. If hurting someone's Feeling is your Religion then I am Really Sorry i have pity for u.
ISLAM is the Religion of Humanity that's why you havent seen even a one person who follows truly ISLAM can make fun of other Religion..
No NEVER !!

RESPECT OTHERS RELIGION SO THAT YOUR RELIGION GETS RESPECTED !!


Peace   May 20th, 2010 9:14 pm ET

if i make fun of your mom or dad or your family member... Do u like it ??
if its answer is yes then you dont love your mom,dad & family...!


jermainee   May 20th, 2010 9:16 pm ET

IT WAS FUN.. MY MUHAMAMED HAD BOMBS FOR TEETH, AND CARRIED A AK 47 with VIRGINS ON IT!


jermainee   May 20th, 2010 9:17 pm ET

lol @ peace

mom and dad arent blowing random people up though


scott   May 20th, 2010 9:26 pm ET

Who the hell needs religion anyway? Especially one like Islam. Crude, dark ages BS.


Peace   May 20th, 2010 9:34 pm ET

@Jermainee
Think Before You Speak..... coz it ultimately goes to ur mother & father And they are gona feel Asham After having you as a child coz u r making fun of them.... ho ho ho...

@ Scott
Who the Hell needs the person like you in the earth though who dont knw how to Respect others ?? :P
before understanding ISLAM ppl used to give such kind of statements bt after having knowledge of it they stop Analysing others & start Analysing themselves....


Talgrath   May 20th, 2010 9:40 pm ET

If we were drawing Jesus or Buddha or any other religious figure in a crude or humorous manner, nobody would care; but because it's Mohammed it's offensive? South Park, for example, depicted Buddha doing cocaine and had Jesus get beaten up by the devil in a boxing match; but when they try to depict Mohammed giving an ice tea to someone it's disrespectful?

Look, I don't hate muslims but I will not have my right to Free Speech silenced by being "politically correct" or because someone threatened me. My stupid drawings of Mohammed harm no one in any way, shape or form. I drew Mohammed, I will draw him if I want to in any way I want to because if your beliefs say it is wrong then that is your problem, not mine. To those who are offended, you chose your religious beliefs, just like I chose mine; if your beliefs are incompatible with a free, open and honest society then you are free to move to somewhere else where your particular beliefs are protected or enforced by law.


Peace   May 20th, 2010 9:44 pm ET

The intense is somewht hurting the ppl's Feeling... is that wht your religion teach you ?? hurting the feeling is the Symbol of Cruelty & nt the Freedom of Speech.... First understand your Own Religion & then talk about others...


Syed Saifur Rahman   May 20th, 2010 9:52 pm ET

Making fun of any religion must be stopped


Maurice   May 20th, 2010 9:56 pm ET

This whole issue brings to the light the fact the Muslims respect all of the prophets, including Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him). What most people don't realize is that it is a sin for a Muslim to speak ill of any of the prophets. Several years ago, the movie The Last Temptation of Christ came out in the US. Muslims were also outraged at the story line. In Islam, it is a sin to slander or draw an image of any of the prophets. If Christianity had the same respect for the prophets, then we would not have these issues. Freedom of speech is a wonderful idea, but it has its limits. If we were to live in a society with no limits, then complete chaos would ensue. All non-Muslims should try and understand that Islam respects all prophets including, Jesus, Abraham, David, Joseph, Solomon, Mohammed, Job, and so on.


TKM777   May 20th, 2010 9:59 pm ET

I personally wouldn't do it, but I will fight for the freedom of people to do so.


BlackNinja   May 20th, 2010 10:12 pm ET

I find the group in general immature, but hey thats what you get from insecure people but then i find it more immature that others actually respond to it and are making a big deal. Seriously everything is made fun of these days. Other religions to so Islam is not the only one. Certain muslim are making too much of a big deal of it. This is giving Islam a bad name and increase the people's stereotypes as them as bombers and extremists. The group intention was probably to make people cause a big deal. To the muslim that are offended this is what the creator intend and your giving it to him/her like its free candy. You could of stop this earlier people did not react with the group.

Another thing is to consider is drawing the prophet is a rule of Islam not everyone in the world is Islam therefore we who arent dont have to follow the rules of Islam but we should respect is like everyother religion too. I believe all of this insecurity will go away once every religion stops believe its the better one and accepts other religions because religions are like people on a greater scale.


Talgrath   May 20th, 2010 10:24 pm ET

@Maurice That's lovely that Islam respects all of these "prophets", the fact of the matter is that I don't need to have respect for any of those prophets. This is America, I can make fun of who I want when I want how I want and you can't do anything (legally) to stop me other than to bring (legal) consequences such as not associating with me.

The fact of the matter is that freedom of expression is coming for the entire world, with the dawn of the internet age it will quickly become impossible for freedom of expression to be restricted or otherwise halted; muslims will need to get thicker skins and learn to ignore mockeries of the "prophets" if they expect to keep up with the modern world. Freedom is here, the "anarchy" you speak of is alive and well, and it's coming to every corner of this globe; if you're afraid or your offended, I'm sorry but you'll just have to get used to it.


AC   May 20th, 2010 10:35 pm ET

Maurice, complete chaos? you mean like in the middle east where muslim is blowing up muslim and all else? if Christians respected their prophets, we would have none of these issues? what issues, I do not recall any radical group since the crusades. The issue that threatens this world is within the Muslim religion whom are preaching evil and gaining a following. Please wite to the respective countries in that region to finally stand up to it. Ban radicalism, they are much more threatning than a drawing.


WeirdMN   May 20th, 2010 10:38 pm ET

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TeXWiller   May 20th, 2010 10:40 pm ET

The whole of the human race seem to be divided in those who want to control others and those who don't. The controlling individuals communicate insecurity, fear and weakness of faith towards others and so doing create counter reactions from those who choose not to be controlled.
The desire for control can be seen within all major religions in the various behaviours of the individuals. There has to be some genetic explanation behind this mess. Eradicating the feature might cause a decrease of survivability of the whole population, however. I guess we just have to learn to tolerate each other the hard way, meaning through education and cultural (and therefore religious) change.
In Europe, a relative religious tolerance was created through decades of wars and centuries of mutual persecution. The tolerance was created through the suffering of millions. How can the Muslim world go through the process of learning if the obvious way has been blocked by the requirements of civility by the international community? A new, more peaceful way has to be found.


Aditya   May 20th, 2010 10:42 pm ET

Now let's create another group targeting another communities beliefs and all start to fight. Why do you need to attack other peoples belief to express your freedom.The facebook spokesperson is a stupid.


BadWolf   May 20th, 2010 10:44 pm ET

I am proud to have been in the FB group. Believe what you like but don't use faith of any sort as a weapon against the rest of us. Frankly, I don't care if you paint yourself blue and dance in the moonlight as long you don't try to force your beliefs on others.
The point was that people need to stand up against the oppression of freedom wherever it lies. Respect for other religions is a laudable goal but travel across the globe and see how that works out for you.


Love Your Fellow Human Beings   May 20th, 2010 10:47 pm ET

I am amazed at the level of interest on this topic. It is really interesting to see so many comments posted on a topic as simple as a Facebook page. The good that will come out of this I hope will be a better understanding of who Mohammed (pbuh) really was and what his contributions were to all of humanity since he was a prophet for all mankind, not just Muslims. Perhaps you should find out why Michael H. Hart ranked him as the most influential person in history or why over 1.2 billion people follow his teachings throughout the world.

We are all human beings who have to live on this planet together – no matter what our personal beliefs may be. If we really get to know each other, we will find out that we are 99% similar. The 1% difference may be due to our culture, our upbringing, our beliefs, and our environment. That difference is what makes our lives interesting but we should not allow it to divide us.


Franko   May 20th, 2010 10:49 pm ET

   Modern day Prophet Mohammed Obama,
the latest reincarnation, has called a Jihad on the Climate.

 The message is distorted,
Because He cannot figure out how to interface an iPad with a Xbox.


Alethia   May 20th, 2010 10:50 pm ET

You are a brute and a bully, Talgrath. And it's your selfishness and arrogance which is sickening.

I'm a Christian who respects all religions and those who have no religion at all. But what I don't respect is barbarity.

So you may make fun of who you want, when you want and how you want, but people like me will never letup reminding people like you how ugly your behavior is.

And it's people like me who is standing today with innocent Muslims...


AC   May 20th, 2010 10:51 pm ET

Drawing a picture of a prophet is an attack on ones beliefs? hardly so. Flying two 747's into the twin towers, now that is an attack on ones way of life. Please get your perspectives straight.


Noble9   May 20th, 2010 10:56 pm ET

No more walking on eggshells worrying about (*gasp*) upsetting the muslims. Comedy Central was too cowardly - it took a grassroots movement to stand up to their bs intimidation tactics.


Alethia   May 20th, 2010 11:05 pm ET

@AC:
Why are you assuming innocent Muslims don't condemn the 911 attacks? They have and they do.

There were quite a number of Muslims killed in the Twin Towers also. One particular instance was that the entire restaurent crew of Windows-on-the World was wiped out. Most of them were Muslims originally from Bangladesh. How sad for all people that day...


Alethia   May 20th, 2010 11:11 pm ET

Yea, Noble9. This so-called "grassroots movement" sounds more like the "Brownshirts" to me...


River   May 20th, 2010 11:12 pm ET

what the heck ? The page against is working but the page for drawing is not ? Who is censoring this stuff ? Facebook ?


Patrick   May 20th, 2010 11:16 pm ET

They took the group down for the 2nd time. The first time they claimed it was a "technical problem."

What is it this time? Cowardice? Censorship? No thanks Facebook. This is America and well I dont need you if you dont need to respect our first and most important right.


AC   May 20th, 2010 11:20 pm ET

alethia, no disrespect and I understand completely that most Muslims are good muslims, I really believe it is true, but to be honest, no, I have not heard any Muslim outright condone the attacks and all other attacks that happen on a daily basis. I am talking about high profile leaders and clerics...not a peep. There is no clear understanding of how most really feel when they see americans being killed on a daily basis trying to rid of the very people they supposedly condone in tainting there religion. Should we just leave them alone to grow and attack us again? not an option. Why are we doing this while not a country in that region (besides pakistan because of pressure) is standing up to this with an army of their own? It is well known there are training camps and schools in Iraq (until the invasion), Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and I'm sure Siria, and Iran as well

Now let us for a second turn the tables around, if it were the opposite (which would never happen) but if it were, Wouldn't there have been some high profile person in the west condoning a group of Crusaders? publicly? for millions to see? I will never forget the images in NY of the Muslim community by me out in the streets cheering as the towers fell.


Aqib   May 20th, 2010 11:26 pm ET

It is obvious whoever did this, the sole purpose was to challenge the Muslims and say:

"We can draw pictures of your prophet, and you can't stop us.."

I know there should be freedom of speech and expression, but people in the western world should have the brains to use it, which many (not everyone) don't.

The issue of drawing Prophet Muhammad (sallal laho alaihi wasallam) is an extremely sensitive issue in Islam and non-Muslims are aware of that. They know it enrages the Muslim community across the globe and this is the only reason why they did it.

We should have respect for all religions and be sensible enough to openly express opinions on issues that might hurt others.

And then once you do all this, why would you not expect a Muslim to come and tell you that "I'll kill you infidels.."


Aqib   May 20th, 2010 11:32 pm ET

@AC

Killing thousands of innocent Muslims in Iraq for oil is also an attack and so many others in drone attacks across the globe..

This can go on forever. Grow up and stop the blame game.


femanon   May 20th, 2010 11:36 pm ET

I love you /b/ <3


AC   May 20th, 2010 11:38 pm ET

to add, why does no Islamic country in the region publicly condone the existance of Hamas, Hezbolah? Pure terrorist regimes. let's face it, they have been attacking so called infidels for thousands of years, ... this is nothing new, so why hasn't anyone in that region had the gall to stop it in all this time? Because there is enough of the population, especially high ranking members, that are not willing to stop it. That can be the only explanation. Our Christain forfathers stood up and fought a revolution against superior forces to create our nation, not perfect, but the closest there is out there, and won because we rebeled against supression because of a willingness in what we believed was right . I think the Muslim population needs to do the same if they want respect. Respect is earned and ones perception lies heavily in their actions, even if it is a few wrondoers that represent a majority.....the daily pictures paint a thousand words, and the inaction to rid of it from their very own, speaks even louder.


Alethia   May 20th, 2010 11:48 pm ET

@AC: Thank you for your thoughtful comments. Well, AC, you have provided some food for thought.
Please understand, I am a Christian American who is rather immunized against telling other countries/religions what to do. I can barely manage dealing with problems in my own country and religion.

I'll go out on a limb and hope on won't offend anyone. But what I say is with love and understanding for my Muslim brothers and sisters.There is one area where I would like to comment about life in the Muslim World vis a vis your points made, AC. And that is the proper education of the Muslim clergy.

I'm sure there are many eminent clergypersons existing within the Muslim clergy. But there are, I understand, several who are not properly trained to impart the deeper meanings of that religion to the general public. There is where it's crucial because people look up to clergy everywhere to speak out on moral issues of the day and need them to interpret with skill the nuances thsat do exist in any holy book and in this case, The Quran. I have read the Quran itself and am quite impressed with its wisdom and beauty. But it needs intelligent interpretation.

I have a great respect for Islam as I do of other religions: Hinduism, Judaism, Sikhism, Jainism, Buddhism etc.

There seems to be a greater need within the Muslim world to have a better educated clergy to deal with the complex issues in an increasingly complex world...


AC   May 20th, 2010 11:49 pm ET

Aqib, do you honestly think we want to be there? Do you honestly think we are killing innocent people on purpose? as ex-military, this could not be further from the truth. if it were for the oil, why don't we just take it over for good. Of course we want stability in an oil rich nation that we "buy' from, but it's not just about the oil at all. Stop watching your al jazeer network that is feeding the negative propoganda against the entire western world.


Sultan Ameer   May 20th, 2010 11:53 pm ET

And Americans wonder why Faisal Shehzad become a terrorist.


Franko   May 20th, 2010 11:54 pm ET

  
  
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Anthonymst   May 20th, 2010 11:56 pm ET

@peace : you talk a lot about respect and to respect your prohpet. Does it ever occur to you that cow is highly revered in Hinduism? And you people are slitting hindus highly regarded figure and stuffing yourself up with its flesh. Until you can refrain from eating beef, stop begging for respect.


AC   May 20th, 2010 11:56 pm ET

sultan, please enlighten us? it obviously does not take much.


Comment   May 20th, 2010 11:59 pm ET

A mentally sick person's idea to create this page. Really a shame for that person. She should consult a good Psychiatrist as soon possible.


Alethia   May 21st, 2010 12:02 am ET

But, AC, not your comments, but can you honestly blame innocent Muslims here for thinking many Americans want to purposely kill them? I mean some of these comments are absolutely vicious! Mean!
Unkind!

Many of these unkind comments people will take as respresenting our country, America. How sad I am about this that innocent Muslims have been insulted and hurt.


Stop Stupidity   May 21st, 2010 12:06 am ET

Here is my pic:
@ Hey, dude. I am Mohammed! The islamic guy
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Alethia   May 21st, 2010 12:08 am ET

And AC, you mentioned you were a Christian. Well so am I and how can Christians justify being intentionally mean to innocent people? Tell me. We are taught to be kind even to our enemies, and innocent Muslims are our friends. They are not our enemies.

For me, the worst sin is arrogance, and there so much of it going around here today...


Aqib   May 21st, 2010 12:08 am ET

@AC

I don't watch al jazeer, I'm a Canadian Muslim and I heard it on American media.

..and there is so much rumour that Bush government did the whole 9/11 themselves for staging wars in Middle East and Afghanistan to gain strategic positions.

I don't say that, people here in NA do.

Nevertheless, even NATO soldiers over the years have repeatedly said what is being done in all those countries is baseless. Let's accept the truth. We in the West always play games.


Jibran Nadeem   May 21st, 2010 12:09 am ET

81000 vs 96000!!!
Its amazing how facebook is getting away with offending the majority of people in the name of 'free speech'. One simple question for the facebook rep: how would he feel if someone posted some offensive material about his family or even himself on the internet?
I am a Muslim. I have all the respect in the world for all religions. And our religion teaches to respect other religions as well; even if their beliefs don't meet our own.
Knowing how offensive it is for Muslims to draw pictures of Prophets and still going with it even against so many protests just show how blaspehmous these people can be. Its very sad to know that the concept of 'free speech' is being used to offend such a large portion of the world's population.
And they still do not expect any retaliation from the Muslim community?


Franko   May 21st, 2010 12:11 am ET

Mohammed will rise from the dead,
and in the final battle, defeat the money changers


Mark C   May 21st, 2010 12:20 am ET

*** I am a Muslim. I have all the respect in the world for all religions. And our religion teaches to respect other religions as well; even if their beliefs don't meet our own. Knowing how offensive it is for Muslims to draw pictures of Prophets and still going with it even against so many protests just show how blaspehmous these people can be. ***

Uh, actually, only you consider it blastphemy, Einstein.

*** Its very sad to know that the concept of 'free speech' is being used to offend such a large portion of the world's population. ***

Yes, very sad when the concept of free speech is used to defend free speech.

** And they still do not expect any retaliation from the Muslim community? ***

No, we expect you'll probably attempt to retaliate in the typical Muslim way: by strapping bombs on a woman, child or halfwit, or attempting murder in some other way.


Mark C   May 21st, 2010 12:26 am ET

*** And then once you do all this, why would you not expect a Muslim to come and tell you that "I'll kill you infidels.." ***

Oh, I'd definitely expect it. Because killing people merely for ideas they have or how they express them is exactly the sort of people you are. Thank you for making my point.


Freedom of Speech or shamelessness   May 21st, 2010 12:31 am ET

I just have one question for all the supporters of freedom of speech (especially those who dont believe on any religion).

If about 80,000 people gather outside their homes and start abusing their family including their youngest girls and eldest females (mothers, sisters, wives, daughters) in the sickest and the dirtiest possible way, will it be accepted by them as freedom of speech.
What if their sub-ordinates in the office daily greets them with a question of what colored bra / undies their mother / daughter / wive is wearing today (will it be freedom of speech?).


Mark C   May 21st, 2010 12:34 am ET

Here's some freedom of speech for you "Freedom of shamelessess": Mohammad sucked off his camel nightly. Don't like me saying it? Too bad.


Franko   May 21st, 2010 12:39 am ET

Distracted by drawings, while the plot to reduce world population is hatched
Worry about the Malthusian worshipers of the Bohemian Grove Moloch Owl


pushma   May 21st, 2010 12:40 am ET

What a stupid thing to be done on facebook.... it is a fun, family and friends reunion site, no idea why facebook is getting into these kind of controversies,
bad that Pakistan govt. had banned facebook/youtube, depriving the Pakistanis their right to protest against this rubbish.... but very bad is that facebook management is still playing dumb......
let us not fight over issues which should not be a part of our lives...My point of view about religion and politics is very simple, these two discussions are very very personal, we should not drag them to common life, facebook should remove such links, as this is not a part of their policy, n let us get togather like before....
peace for the world is my motto


HF   May 21st, 2010 12:43 am ET

I am tired of religion freaks from middle east telling people how to think and they tell us where to get off, take your religion and crap and move out of our countries if you don't like the rules otherwise, .......... bite it!!


Mark C   May 21st, 2010 12:48 am ET

What the assorted Muslim imbeciles here and on FB can't seem to figure out is that no page would have been made if Muslims hadn't attempted to murder a political cartoonist for producing some pretty mild cartoons. This is not an isolated incident. Salmon Rushdie was forced to live in hiding for many years for producing a master work of literature. And Theo Van Gogh was actually murdered for producing a film critical of Islamic treatment of women.

When you people show as much outrage about violence and murder as you do over what you consider to be taboo, maybe we'll listen to you. Until then, you seem to have mistaken us for people who give a rat's as$ about your feelings.


phil   May 21st, 2010 12:49 am ET

Thanks to your these actions some one JUST like you in another part of the world might think that it is with in his rights to kill the next passing by American soldier to avenge your action. He will be with in his rights on that land to do so like you are here. All that will happen is a mother will lose her kid thanks to idiots like you.
All you did was proved the point of ppl trying to incite that you are against their religion.


AC   May 21st, 2010 12:53 am ET

Actually, I am Roman Catholic to be precise, but duty to my country will always be first, and my country is currently at war due to unprovoked attacks that climaxed on 9/11. At the moment I cannot forgive until I see a willingness in eraticating the poisoned atmosphere of a few that want to threaten our very existance on earth. Religion is what I was taught to fall back upon, it is always there, but in no way should it be at the forefront of every second in ones existance and decision making....as you can see, that is very dangerous.... and that is what I believe. It leads to irrational thinking, misinterpretation, and not making the best decision...this is where we differ. I am a realist and I also believe in modern technology, humanity, and science. Did you ever come to ask yourseves why there is so much negativity as you can see throughout this blog instead of asking the majority of the responders why? Are you truly surprised? Well then one needs to get there heads out of the clouds and see what is going on down here once in a while, and do some good in making things right instead of worrying about a drawing contest that may or may not have been intentional...freedom will always trump a closed mind. If Muhammed was truly upset, then they will have to answer to him in the after life...not answer to any of you. You want to make a point of something, then try to condone terrorism every chance you get if you are of muslim faith especially, speak out against regimes that turn a blind eye to it while thousands die. Ask yourself why we americans are so upset with Islam at the moment...if you put the quran down and dig deep, you will find the answer.


Puzzled   May 21st, 2010 12:54 am ET

So, let me get this straight....... I am not living in your country. I do not believe in your religion. You do not rule my country. You have no religious or temporal authority over me....so..If i drew a picture of Buddha, Changing Woman, Moses, Vishnu, Jesus, or Watonka, with Muhammad in a respectful way.........You would send over assassins for me and have murder committed............. WHY?????
Truthfully, this is the essence of barbarism! It seems to me you have come to idolize this man too much. The irony is you have fallen into the very pit you have sought to avoid. How much can you venerate G*d when so much focus is on his prophet? How much caring, love, or respect can you offer the people of other faiths with this obsession?
The dirogatory pictures that were drawn were NOT the right way to go about this. Let us start drawing pictures with the prophet sharing a meal or some other respectful way. We are a people of large hearts, and it is true that you gain more with honey than vinegar.
However; I must say that it is indeed arrogant and presumptuous to dictate to people in other countries that do not believe in your faith how they may live. If Facebook's content offends you, then no one is forcing you to stay on it. Just close the door quietly as you leave, thank you!


AC   May 21st, 2010 1:12 am ET

Phil, with all due respect if something as small as a drawing contest is more important in protecting ones faith across international borders on the world wide web than the image of suicide bombers and a large enough radical populace that wants nothing to do with you but play soccer with your head in the street, I'm afraid you are trying to convince the wrong side as to why that is. There should be no reason to kill anyone for something said...they are only words, I believe and live by righteous actions. Comments like you wonder "why we kill the infidels" just shows how close minded, insecure, and medieval one is when they are upset by trying to impose that closed mindedness to free societies with threats....these colors don't run (Red, White, Blue) I will say this again, one needs to inherit tolerance, without tolerance, you are seeing what people become.


Natecar   May 21st, 2010 1:13 am ET

All religions have much in their basic beliefs that are blasphemous to MANY other religions and, in fact, a majority of the people in the world.
One of the great advances of modern civilization has been to accept that you do not need to enforce blasphemy in this life. Your god will take care of that in the afterlife, so let it go for now.
The only reason you would NEED to enforce your religion's views of blasphemy on others would be if you doubted your god's ability to enforce them in the afterlife.

Freedom of speech means accepting someone else's ability to express their ideas, even if it is that which you would work your entire life against. If you can't do that, you don't believe in freedom of speech.


mikkitoto   May 21st, 2010 1:16 am ET

Our world is going through so many crisis's at the moment, and we are creating more opportunities for creating a horrible atmosphere around us..... shame on us, Facebook should remove these cartoons immeditately and an official apology is also very much due... with a commitment that there will not be a next time like this again in future .... ever


mikkitoto   May 21st, 2010 1:23 am ET

@ natecar, freedom of speech doesnot mean that you are humiliation someones religion, or in other words , freedom of speech doesn't base on humiliation or disrespect......accepting ideas is differnt from being disrespectful.... so review ur statement


kevin   May 21st, 2010 1:26 am ET

The muslums can sit and squake all they want but if the big guy is upset over this then he would have taken control. I bet he has a sense of humour and is laughing at both sides.


jahanzeb   May 21st, 2010 1:26 am ET

This is totally wrong this is not freedom of speech. They just want to hurt muslims by drawning (NAUZBILLAH) our respectable PROPHET MUHAMMAD(PBUH). No religion teaches such kind of actions are your religion teaches you to hurt others on such a mass level but they showed their angerness against Islam. facebook also showed baisness & muslim will not use FB again Islam is the most peacefull religion. i know those who di this will face have very hurtfull end.


AC   May 21st, 2010 1:30 am ET

I would agree to this commitment if every Muslim is committed to writing the foreign countries for whom they represent in doing all they can to stop radical terrorism, then having heads of state and clergy denouncing it as well every time there is an occurence, if you are truly upset as to how you are perceived by the rest of the world, do something positive instead of telling me what is right or wrong in your eyes..... I am still waiting for an official apology for 9/11 as well.


Alethia   May 21st, 2010 1:34 am ET

@AC:
Did you ever think that our soldiers' lives in Afghanistan, Iraq and elsewhere in the Middle East/South Asia depend on our being civil with innocent Muslim brothers and sisters? They are at war against the terrorists too. (BTW, I'm not criticizing YOUR posts)
American soldiers depend heavily on the cooperation of innocent civilians who happen to be Muslim. We are trying to help them set-up a better life for their people. Those very civilians are losing their lives also in daily fights with the terrorists.

We should go out of our way to have a civilized exchange with Muslims about the cartoon and other issues. Which is not the case with some of these barbaric diatribes against Muslims.

@Puzzled: Even if I disagree with your opinion, I DO agree with you that the conversation could be conducted in a more caring and gentle way...Thank you.


Tired   May 21st, 2010 1:40 am ET

God,or what ever you want to call me, to the world. You do not know my mind and religions are not the answer.
Do Good not evil. Help others, and kill no one!


AC   May 21st, 2010 1:42 am ET

You want me to believe islam is the most peaceful religion....prove it. No other religion at the moment has as big a radical population. Clergy needs to get their act together in teaching the proper text so we all can hear the proper interpretation Tear down schools that preach hatred and violence, inprison those that misinterpret the quaran and put your swords to their heads.


Alethia   May 21st, 2010 1:47 am ET

Well AC, it would be nice if some innocent Muslim would apologize for those twisted Muslims who perpetrated 911, yes.

It would also be nice if some innocent American would apologize for the invasion of Iraq under the false pretense of WMD.

I can do that. I'm American. So I apologize for the twisted American adminstration who invaded Iraq under false pretenses...


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garamasala   May 21st, 2010 1:51 am ET

The modern day crsade against muslims continues against This serves no purpose other than to incite hate and provoke violence. It shows malicious intent on behalf of those who organized this andlack of respect of other peoples customs andbeliefs. Freedom has its limits. Freedom to insult other peoples religion should not be tolerated.


Natecar   May 21st, 2010 1:55 am ET

@mikkitoto: Freedom of speech means EXACTLY that.

Freedom Of Speech

It does not mean censored speech so others aren't offended by your stupidity or ignorance. Ignorance and stupidity are also protected rights.
I fear what you want is freedom of acceptable speech (based on your view of acceptable).
I would suggest that even you can understand why letting someone else be the judge of whether speech is allowable or not is contrary to the notion of freedom. If you don't believe me, then imagine me being the judge of your speech. Would that make you feel 'free'?

Just because I can say something offensive doesn't mean I have to. However, as soon as you try to stop someone else from saying that offensive thing because you just don't like it, you are censoring speech for content. That is wrong.


AC   May 21st, 2010 1:59 am ET

Alethia, unfortunately...I, and many, feel it is a doomed policy. We will always be a civil people and no other country has people that are as caring and passionate in seeing good prevail for all as we are. But there is only so much you can do as the people have to open up and want this as well, and as obvious as it seems to us, I just don't see it happening in this case because of the extreme cultural differences and past history. We have to give these radicals as hard a blow as we can while their so that it will take years for them to become what they were. I am an optimist, but old ways are very hard to change. Winning their hearts and minds needs to start with their own people in leadership and clergy, not a foreign security force. I know our boys are doing the best they can, but I really do feel for them as the news is not good in regards to winning them over. No leader is stepping up to the plate in regards to helping us do this as far as I can see. Civilians just don't want to talk, and the training of any local military is lethargic at best. Unfortunately, a closed society accustomed to very old customs, intimidation, and corruption wins the day in that region as it has for milennia.


Chanceflight   May 21st, 2010 2:01 am ET

Freedom of expression is acceptable, but at the same time you must learn to respect others beliefs and religions. Muslim's really aren't asking for much from cartoonists. They just don't want their prophet drawn, ESPECIALLY when its all in objective and disturbing forms.


Alethia   May 21st, 2010 2:06 am ET

@Natecar: Mikkimoto seems to be talking about honor and dignity...of human beings.

These things don't seem to be exhibited in your posts...


OurRightsAndWhatsRight   May 21st, 2010 2:06 am ET

I am not a Muslim but I am an American and I do enjoy the freedoms that this country affords me.

I would like to point out that just because you are within your rights does not mean that you are right.

If this behavior is so hurtful to others then why exhibit it just to prove a point? Sure, it is within your rights but can you honestly say it is right?

Lets face it, with one billion Muslims there is no way all Muslims are terrorists. If that were the case then things would be a lot worse.


JP   May 21st, 2010 2:13 am ET

We don't respect people's beliefs. We respect people. So long as people around the world cloak evil deeds in religious dogma, we should not respect them. When Muslims stop treating women as property and anyone who disagrees with them as canon fodder then maybe free thinking people will respect them. Calling your beliefs "religion" doesn't make them respectable and doesn't make them inviolate. When you believe in limiting the rights of others and killing them when they offend you then you should not and will not be respected.

We have to stop thinking that religion must be respected. It gives the label too much power. When people give away 14 year old girls as rewards for loyalty or stone a woman to death for speaking out in public or deny girls an education it is NOT respectable. It is a power trip by demented individuals using the label religion to feel justified in whatever they do. It is the responsibility of rational people to STOP respecting something that calls itself religion when its followers don't respect basic human rights.

You do not have the right to not be offended. You can earn respect by refusing to take offense.


kiran   May 21st, 2010 2:20 am ET

i think this was a very shamful thing no one has right to offend anybodies religious beliefs. facebook should stop all this . hurting someones emotions is not a freedom of speech.


Alethia   May 21st, 2010 2:20 am ET

@AC: I hope it's OK to say this, but I feel your pain. I'm with you and God is with you and with all people...Don't lose faith.

Faith is everything whether one is Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Hindu or no religion at all. I can say the word Faith in a couple different languages: Iman(Arabic), Vishwas(Sanskrit) etc.

AC, maybe as Americans we should let other countries take care of themselves a little more. I am not an isolationist, but why do we have to be in every other country in the world?

A little more concentration on our domestic needs is something we should consider. A little less worrying about who else is invading who overseas...America needs to rethink its role in the world...


AC   May 21st, 2010 2:22 am ET

I agree, this whole FB thing was not well thought out, if it were to provoke a reaction, it surely has...but I will leave you with this. If this many muslims can cry out against a drawing contest of their prophet offending them, why can't we get that same voice crying out aginst those that are tainting the image of their very religion? As we can see, if it is something dear to you, you will bark back. so where is that same enthusiasm in countering something else that should be dear to you????

it just makes us in the west wonder..............

Good night, and may peace and harmony prevail for the sake of us all


jen   May 21st, 2010 2:38 am ET

are u all retarded? theres a difference between freedom of speech and deliberately wanting to insult a certain group of people for the fun of it. the thing with some people is that they have their head so far up their ass that they feel like they can do whatever they want and say whatever they want and then say "freedom of speech". Its only 'freedom' when you know how to use it, there are certain boundaries, I'm so sick of having to hear about how stupid some people are. There are two sides to every story, so maybe, before you get too hyped up about blaming muslims for everything going on in your life, you should probably realize that there are other muslims around the world who are as sick of these extremists as you are. Don't generalize, read facts, check out more than one source for every event, this is so pathetic. some people just need to stop being so retarded


Alethia   May 21st, 2010 2:43 am ET

I'm saying goodnight to all, too. They say that out of bad comes good...This awful FB venture was very wrenching ideed and I'm so sorry. I'll ask my Muslim brothers and sisters to please forgive those comments which were unduly hurtful. Remember, please, those of us who have stood with you, and accept the challenge of those resonable comments which constructively engaged you.

I am a Christian who has read The Holy Quran. It never ceases to cause me to get goosebumps whenever I read in the Invocation opening:
"In the Name of God, the Most Merciful, the Most Beneficent..."


rocking   May 21st, 2010 2:46 am ET

Not sure what hateful people here get from spewing hatred. There are 1.6b muslims out there, including 7m in the US, and it's the fastest growing religion in the world. So you don't agree with Islam or its prophet, go ahead and draw cartoons and tick people off. Then what? Sleep better at night knowing you've contributed to humanity? I say go and feed some poor people instead.


VegasRage   May 21st, 2010 2:50 am ET

I don't think I'll let a faith I don't follow tell me what I can and can't do in a country that has a separation of church and state. I for one am grateful for this. Now if I ever go to Pakistan, I'll respect their customs and laws. But I won't bow to death threats by people who think they can control my actions, they are clearly mistaken.


Justice   May 21st, 2010 2:57 am ET

Newton's law: " There is a reaction to every action with equal and opposite force."

If this is a time tested reality (TRUTH) then why are the hatred- spreaders surprized at the reaction of the affected comunity.

I think that justice is supreme than freedom (unlimited) & justice starts from ones ownself by controlling ones actions which may affect other fellow beings.


usman   May 21st, 2010 3:05 am ET

just stop! no auguments.


Bharath   May 21st, 2010 3:07 am ET

This is a cheap trick by Facebook to counter "QUIT FACEBOOK DAY" May 31st. In the name of freedom of speech you are hurting the feelings of Muslims. I am sure nobody would dare start a page of "Holocaust Denying" or "Hailing Hitler". Why, there are laws created in many countries against that. Now where is the freedom of speech?


Ben   May 21st, 2010 3:09 am ET

this a stupid move done by those who have created this group and hosted this event.
this is against others religion.
I will see what will happen if "Draw Jesus Day" is organized. then all the christians will be upset and then they will know how others feel.
I will be waiting for that moment.


LouieD   May 21st, 2010 3:12 am ET

"Let's put together "Draw Jesus taking it in the @$$" Day! It's a celebration of free speech!"

Whether or not you agree with EDMD, hopefully everyone realizes how stupid this particular comment is. Nobody suggested drawing anything obscene about Mohammed. Those who did, did so of their own accord.

If you're so against posting anything obscene or inciteful about religious figures, why even use this comment as a (bad) example?


awesomeness   May 21st, 2010 3:25 am ET

I once saw a cool drawing of 911 with pigs falling out of the building, it was very inspiring. I think we should also have a draw 911 day on facebook – how awesomely cool would that be?


Omar   May 21st, 2010 3:25 am ET

What you are all forgetting is this is not about the religion. This is about the people who believe it and then push that belief to censor us. Who cares about Islam but muslims. Who cares about christianity but christians. I live in a free country and therefor can express myself in anyway I want. You do not have the right to take away my freedoms because of your religion. oblufire at you tube look me up. I support the freedoms I have. I don't back away from people trying to take them away for their personal beliefs. And blasphamy is only that if I believe in your religion.


hasnain   May 21st, 2010 3:56 am ET

Asalam o laikum
Brothers & SISTER
MAY GOD bless u all with a peace full thought .
we muslims belive in one GOD and all the prophets sent by him as he told us in Quran Majeed .
So our humanity is incomplete untill we belive in all prophets and all books sent by the GOD ALLAH.
and we also Do not like to Draw the cartoons of JESUS .becoz he was last Prophets sent before MUHAMMAD (S.A.W)
Muslims Belive dat there is no existance of any pictures of any PROPHET.dats y making there imaginative pictures is a big sin.
and GOD ALLAH did not like this.
Doing These things will just make a a lover of PROPHET angry.
Becoz it Hurts his belife.


Sharif Chowdhury   May 21st, 2010 3:59 am ET

insulting Muslims in the name of freedom of speech is an insult !
but again Muslims should understand that those extremists radicals started this nonsense.


meela dhala   May 21st, 2010 4:01 am ET

to freedomoride,

yes you can deny whatever you want. people can deny holocaust if they want, you can deny jesus if you want....
but celebrating and making fun is different...
what if there is an annual celebration day on holocaust? would that be freedom of speech? i guess everything should be allowed.


Ali   May 21st, 2010 4:04 am ET

Islam is peaceful religion and it contains all the excellent ways which is for the betterment of humans and humanity. Our Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) conveyed us all that ways. The last sermon of our Holy Prophet is such a good example .. some of the sayings from the last sermeon of Our Holy Prophet (PBUH) are:
O’ Ye people! Allah says, O’
people We created you from one male and one female and made you into
tribes and nations, so as to be known to one another. Verily in the sight
of Allah, the most honoured amongst you is the one who is most
God-fearing. There is no superiority for an Arab over a non-Arab and for a
non-Arab over an Arab, nor for the white over the black nor for the black
over the white except in God-conciousness.
O’ people! Verily you have got certain rights over your women and your
women have certain rights over you. It is your right upon them to honour
their conjugal rights, and not to commit acts of impropriety, which if
they do, you are authorised by Allah to separate them from your beds amd
chastise them, but not severely, and if they refrain, then clothe and feed
them properly.
Behold! It is not permissible for a woman to give anything from the wealth
of her husband to anyone but with his consent.

Treat the women kindly, since they are your helpers and not in a position
to manage their affairs themselves. Fear Allah concerning women, for
verily you have taken them on the security of Allah and have made their
persons lawful unto you by words of Allah.

All depts must be repaid, all borrowed property must be returned, gifts
should be reciprocated and a surety must make good the loss to the assured.

Beware! No one committing a crime is responsible for it but himself.
Neither the child is responsible for the crime of his father, nor the
father is responsible for the crime of his child.

Nothing of his brother is lawful for a Muslim except what he himself gives
willingly. So do not wrong yourselves.


Naina   May 21st, 2010 4:10 am ET

We should respect the beliefs of others as no religion allows and teaches such kind of acts which hurts the others feelings/ beliefs .

Is this Free of Speech – freeedom or called terorrism the prople who brings these kinds of concept in the society should be treated as terorriest of the society.

We all from all over the world condemn this.


Franko   May 21st, 2010 4:29 am ET

CNN is censoring - first spaces - then alt 255, the null character
          °O But not yet O °   
    What characters are not religiously obscene ?


Aydin   May 21st, 2010 4:30 am ET

I am an atheist and anti-theist, as coined by Christopher Hitchens, and I am offended by religion. That's right, religion offends me, so please remove all your churches, mosques etc. from my sight. Stop using my tax money to give tax breaks and subsidies to religious groups. Until you have done all this, don't expect me to stop drawing Mohammed, or stop "taking the lord's name in vain," and don't expect me to respect any other ridiculous objection you have to my freedom of expression.

This is offensive to Muslims? That's great, go cry me a river, and then grow up a little bit. Many things in life are offensive, get used to it.

I am Turkish.


Nick   May 21st, 2010 5:10 am ET

We're exercising "Freedom of Speech" and they're exercising "Freedom of Religion" I think its fair enough!


RevolutionUnknown   May 21st, 2010 5:19 am ET

This is absolutely ridiculous. The content over the public domain has to be moderated by all means. And the things that are offensive to certain group of people or not is absolutely relative. One group might consider its religion sacred and bantering or mocking of it by someone would be considered offensive. Likewise for certain group their rituals and traditions are sacred and satirical comments on them would be considered beligerent. We have to understand and realize the domain that is Holy to certain groups of people and abstain from playing over that. This way we could hurt humanity less under the umbrella of so called "Freedom of Speech" which was meant to work the other way round.


Muhammad Naser ul Allah   May 21st, 2010 5:27 am ET

Go to hell u all christians.
i think that they have known muslims are on the right path and christians are astray because they have no confirmation about their own religion and barking about our precious PROPHET MUHAMMAD [S.A.W]on the other hand some i read some muslims comments and it is very click my mind that they are non muslim because muslims can not compromise on their PROPHET and RELIGION.
YOu are asking that muslims are killing your peoples it is not true because i think you are fully forgetting what's going on the muslims countries{Pahalistian,chachnia ,serbia,kashmir,Iraq,Afghanistan,Sudan and many more] yes you are right muslims are attacking on you in these countries,BUT tell me one thing why your army are in these countries what's they do the muslims countries.i think that i would to tell about your history that what says the HITLER.He said that
" i left some jewish and christians that the next generation knew that why i killed them"
IF you know more your history you contact me or write your questions on http://www.formspring.me/HeartedMuslim i will answered you there.


Bala Sardin   May 21st, 2010 5:38 am ET

If they want to draw, let them. Their ignorance is digging them a trench bigger than their wisdom can get them out of. When one throws a stone into the crowd, only one thing can happen: You get showered with stones, flee for your life, or pee in your pants in fear of what is to come. Like I said, only one thing can happen. good luck artists :-)


Puzzled   May 21st, 2010 5:42 am ET

We should be more civil; although killing people over cartoons is definitely Not civil, and the smell of the burning bodies for days during 911 is not anything I will ever forget. So you will pardon me if I am disinclined to acquiesce to your request. That means: NO, I will not be Obeying a Religion I Do Not Practice in My Own Country. Read my lips, this is a FREE country. That said, I do not believe in insulting religious people. I actually would be more likely to draw some of them being together peacefully.
Do you realize the more "do it our way or we'll kill you " comes frothing out of your mouths, the more you belie the peaceful religion babble that you spout. Plus it really does not sound convincing after the"Kill and Lie to Infidels" passages in your book.
When you spout off about killing others it is then your own soul is revealed and it is hypocrisy I see. Now where did I put my pen.... paint...crayons... chalk... Great job of convincing me how benign all that absolute "we are the master religion stuff "is !!!!


Saud   May 21st, 2010 5:46 am ET

We must respect each other and respect religions too. I started hating facebook since the day i have seen such a group. They should have blocked it the same moment it was created. It is a big "propaganda", I am sure that they have achieved whatever they wanted to. I must say all christians/jewish/Muslims are not same. But there are some people who destroy the whole idea and brings hatred among all of us.

We should think in a way that, FIRST WE ARE HUMANS, then we are muslims, christians and jewish. Playing with somebody's religion is like playing with his/her feelings. We all learned it in our school " DO RESPECT HAVE RESPECT", Fight or war is not really a solution to these problems. Freedom of speech should also have some limits and one should not cross the limits.

I wish and pray that we all human live and respect each other.


Imran Usman   May 21st, 2010 5:52 am ET

All i know is: its not Christians that has waged war against Islam. and by saying anything against Christianity it self is prohibited by Islam and our Prophet PBUH. As that being said, any disrespect against Islam and our prophet will not be tolerated. Fully agree with the ban, and will never ever use facebook for anything ever again. Thank you Pakistani Government for once doing the right thing.


summerseale   May 21st, 2010 6:01 am ET

So many comments saying that Freedom of Speech should be limited.

Fine! I agree!

Let's start with limiting the freedom of speech of people who posted that. From now on, you can no longer say or write anything that says that Freedom of Speech must be limited. And when you've accepted that, then the rest of us may listen to you again.

Or, if you're unlucky, we may decide to take away a lot more of your Freedom of Speech.

I'm certain you'll understand.


Tahir   May 21st, 2010 6:02 am ET

Ah .. Freedom of speech .. freedom of expression.. and finally freedom of action. right?

If we are all yelling for freedom of speech then why the heck we point out someone's freedom of action... i mean .. a thief can go an and steal anything from your store.. you dont do anything.. right? why .. because its freedom.. he is free to do whatever he can .. atleast he is not hurting anyone, right?
or take it the other way..
someone's come in and start drawing your nude pictures.. or your parents nude pictures dipicting as if they are actually 'doing' each other ...and then they post it all outside your home .. doesnt matter right? since they have freedom of expression and they can humiliate or abuse your parents by any means .. you should keep quite .. and smile and keep on watching . keep doing .. wow ... amazing stuff!

I am really amazed by the standards of freedom of speech and freedom of expression and freedom of action .. so i believe, i would be right to say that Hitler's killing of thousands of jews was correct, it was his freedom of action .we SHOULD NOT raise voice against these killings.... someone blowing the twin tours on 9/11 was right .. it was their freedom of action .. right.... RIGHT?

Go On Friends .. You have your freedom and everyone one else have their own !!!!

May God Bless Us All With The Right Track, Amen


Qindeel Shujaat   May 21st, 2010 6:09 am ET

Irrespective of what the content is, if it hurts people feelings and emotions.... it should be immediately removed. It is facebook administration who must be blamed.

Very sad. We make simple things very complicated.


Asif   May 21st, 2010 6:15 am ET

While i was in US, i used to hear some FM radio channels. They used to make fun of Jesus Christ. What else do you expect from such people. However, I must say that American in general are generous people, but radicalism exists everywhere, every country, every religion, because nothing is radical but your own mind.

I am all for the right to free speech, but not such kind of.


SALAM   May 21st, 2010 6:22 am ET

We speak about freedom of speech....
In d US, It is a crime 2 speak about the holocaust...
where's d freedom of speech
In countries of d world, It is wrong 2 proclaim oneself as the president or prime minister without due procedures....
I'm free 2 say whatever I wan't, don't I

The concept of freedom of speech is accepted by Islam, but d LAWS OF ALLAH AND SHARIAH, serve as the guiding pronciples in exercising such rights

We Muslims LOVE MUHAMMAD and we see it as wrong 2 depict someone none of us in this age has seen....

SO facebook users respect THAT


summerseale   May 21st, 2010 6:31 am ET

"Irrespective of what the content is, if it hurts people feelings and emotions.... it should be immediately removed. It is facebook administration who must be blamed."

I agree! Your post offends me. Let's remove it forcibly. You also offend me. You should be removed as well.


summerseale   May 21st, 2010 6:40 am ET

Belief in God offends me. Anyone posting their belief in God should have their posts removed – irrespective of "religion". It's not really "religion" anyway. It is called "delusion", and it isn't a good thing. I think all people defending Mohammed, or Jesus, or Moses, or Krisna, should have their posts removed because it offends my senses of rationality, logic, and reason.


DC   May 21st, 2010 6:41 am ET

I believe that threatening peoples lives because they draw pictures of Mohammed is nuts. I also think is just as crazy to aggravate an already tense situation by deliberately provoking the Muslim world.

While I do not understand it, I will respect their beliefs and refrain from drawing pictures they find offensive. At the same time I will defend the rights of someone else to do so as it is a matter of free expression.


summerseale   May 21st, 2010 6:45 am ET

SALAM: "In d US, It is a crime 2 speak about the holocaust..."

You're an idiot. First of all, learn how to spell. And second of all, it isn't a crime to "speak about the holocaust" in America. It's not even a crime to deny it ever happened.

You FAIL on every single count in your "statement" above. You lose. Goodbye.


summerseale   May 21st, 2010 6:53 am ET

"While I do not understand it, I will respect their beliefs and refrain from drawing pictures they find offensive."

I don't respect their beliefs. I think their beliefs are idiotic. They are unscientific and they don't respect me. Why should I respect anything which is so idiotic as that? I don't respect any religion's beliefs. I understand their history, their context, but I'm not living in the bronze age, thank you. I'm living in a scientific world which has given so much more to humanity than religion ever has.

It's time to stop respecting morons and their moronic beliefs.


bluetooth   May 21st, 2010 6:57 am ET

im really2 dissappointed with this event on FB...but as muslim we will not organize or thinking about doing anything agains Jesus...because Jesus also our phophet...but not GOD...we muslim respect every each religion...and im a malaysian...we are mutiracial country...more than 5 religion,race,tradition..but we unite as one because we respect each others...but why not world?? why must have hatred in their self?? i think there is no religion ask their follower to do bad thing...but why this happen?? think where the mistake is...


jermaine   May 21st, 2010 6:59 am ET

@ peace no they won't be ashame... they will be proud that I am telling the truth!

@_@
| | | | |

^^O look muhammed agrees


Asif   May 21st, 2010 7:03 am ET

for Summerseale...

You will never be respected unless you learn to respect others. Secondly, you do not know muslim history, context but you are ignorant enough to think that you do.

If science has given this humanity to you, than my friend, you didnt get anything from nature.

Like they say..."You dont get if you dont get it"


summerseale   May 21st, 2010 7:15 am ET

@Asif

You're wrong. I do know Muslim history. I know the history of all the major religions. I've read the koran several times, I've read the bible and the new testament, and the book of mormon and the gitas, thank you. They're all idiotic. Your books have given nothing to us. Nothing. They have given no medicine, no understanding of the age of the universe, no understanding of evolution or the atomic theory – nothing at all. It's mind boggling that you cling to these dated myths which could only have been fabricated by bronze aged nomads in the desert or swamps when they knew nothing at all about the world and the universe around them.

And I do respect others if they are rational people. If they aren't rational people, or they think I have to somehow submit to them or their invisible man in the sky, then no...I don't respect them at all. You take that kind of respect and you can shove it.


Mobeen   May 21st, 2010 7:33 am ET

Is there not enough hatred in the world today ? why cannot we humans, who God says is His best creation learn to live in peace ? what joy are we getting by expressing our freedom of speech, while 1.25 billion fellow human beings suffer emotional pain. I strongly believe that in pursuit of our rights we have totally forgotten whats right.

This attempt of expression of freedom is nothing but fanning hate amongst fellow human beings. And we claim to be educated !!


Muhammad Lover   May 21st, 2010 7:37 am ET

How dare this group expresses their dissatisfaction towards other belief without taking any sensitivity and civilisation to do such act...
This group must bear in mind that everybody in this world have the own rights and freedom to uphold the truth...
This group will wait and see what they are going to be paid during THE PUNISHMENT DAY...
GOD KNOWS THE BEST


summerseale   May 21st, 2010 7:42 am ET

@Mobeen They're suffering emotional pain because they believe in nonsense. If they didn't believe in nonsense and were rational people about life in general, they wouldn't be suffering emotional pain. It's their own fault.

@Muhammad Lover There is no god. You're living a delusion. Snap out of it. Get up off of your knees. Get a spine. Stop submitting to invisible deities in the sky.


Asif   May 21st, 2010 7:43 am ET

to Summerseale:

Haha,, there u go. I think u should better first take some hypertension pill. Its mind boggling to you, not to me.

Anyways, I dont know which country you belong to and you know what.... I dont really care. :) But i do know that one can only take things as much as ones mind allows. And all of us knows that various size of minds exist within humans. Some are big enough to grasp so many things... and some are.....what shud i say.... tiny.....


Yalah   May 21st, 2010 7:50 am ET

Yalah! Yalah! Yalah!

We are a peaceful religion. KILL all infidels


Asif   May 21st, 2010 7:52 am ET

anyways,

Sorry if anyone is hurt because of what i wrote. Facebook allowed it because they knew they will become more and more popular. All of us muslims, we dont like it. And we dont use facebook anymore.


Muhammad Drawer   May 21st, 2010 7:58 am ET

I Drew Muhammad. Why? "Let us not become so tolerant, that we tolerate intolerance." I understand normal Muslims were offended, and to them I'm sorry. I'm offended when I see nasty caricatures of Jesus.

However, I will not be bullied. I will defend the right of others to not be intimidated into silence. Shout, scream, and protest all you want. Make it illegal in your countries, like Holocaust defaming is in Germany. Exercise *your* free speech.

When people are killed by Mujahideen, repeatedly have to dodge assassination attempts (Kurt Westergaard), or has their home burned (Lars Vilks) then I can no longer be tolerant.

Let us not become so tolerant, that we tolerate intolerance.


kommmie   May 21st, 2010 8:09 am ET

Just because of certain black sheep in Muslim community doesnt mean you can judge all of them. i hate bin ladin to death for what he did.and besides he doesnt deserve to be called a Muslim for his terrorist attack.
Islam is a religion of peace.is it really the religions fault itself if its followers chose not to abide by it ?.
i myself is a Muslim and i do have many American friends here in Pakistan who are Jews and Christians . we respect each others point of view and beliefs.
and one more thing i still love America and Americans and I am no one to judge them for what certain Americans did in Iraq and Afghanistan.


Bharath   May 21st, 2010 8:13 am ET

This is a cheap trick by Facebook to counter "QUIT FACEBOOK DAY" May 31st. In the name of freedom of speech you are hurting the feelings of Muslims.

I am sure nobody would dare start a page of "Holocaust Denying" or "Hailing Hitler". Why, there are laws created in many countries against that. Now where is the freedom of speech?


jane doe   May 21st, 2010 8:13 am ET

"Well Mr. Freedom, try to tell a Jew he has a long nose, and see what you will be callled. Anti-semitic, Jew hater, anti-Israel, Get the hell out of America (as if America is Israel!!). So you still think freedom or die?"

This is true just like if you tell a black person he has big lips, a nappy fro, and make fun of ebonics. Just like if you go up to an Arab man and tell him he is a terrorist. Just like if you go up to an asian guy and make fun of his slanty eyes.
You will be called racist in these cases just like in the case you mentioned you would be called anti-semetic. Why?
Because it is. DUH. Making fun of Mo doesn't make you a racist any more than making fun of Jese.
Just because I choose not to make nasty comments to Jews, blacks, asians, or arabs doesn't mean I don't have the right to. Your comment just shows your weird obsession with Jews,
Anti-semitism is frowned on, just like racism towards other groups are. It's not illegal


jose   May 21st, 2010 8:16 am ET

The truth is i do believe we ought to respect other people's religion. I think that deliberately flouting Muslim custom is disrespectful and I'll not do it, and at the same time I expect Muslims to respect my customs.
thanks


baig   May 21st, 2010 8:17 am ET

freedom of speech...??... Can people in the west make deny or make cartoons/ fun of the Holocaust?


jane doe   May 21st, 2010 8:18 am ET

Actually Bharath
Muslims did start 2 dozen pages exactly like the ones you mentioned. I countered them with pages making fun of genocide against Muslims and praising Miloseiv. Here is a reality check genius: making fun of mass murder is not the same as drawing Mo.
My page was deleted because of Muslim complaints and I expect the HItler ones will be too.
Get over your obsession with Jews.
Facebook does not allow the KKK to have a page either. Get over yourself


Responder   May 21st, 2010 8:19 am ET

Asif: "All of us muslims, we dont like it. And we dont use facebook anymore."

Good, it may save some bandwidth. Now I can access Facebook faster.


Sue   May 21st, 2010 8:24 am ET

To all muslims who think this is a terrible abomination of "your peaceful Islam", where are you when your kin bomb and kill innocents ? Why no hue and cry then ? No protest pages ? No open reactions of disgust ? Such double standards rob you of your right to protest.

Oh and I read this again and again.....if the article is correct, Muslims are not just against the physical depiction of their god, they are against the depiction of ALL gods !! Well, who are you to tell me how to depict MY god ?? If I want to idol-worship, I will. This shows that you can only demand respect, but have none for others. For the record, I'm an atheist, so I don't care about religion either way. I do, however, care about my rights.


chris annele   May 21st, 2010 8:24 am ET

freedom of speech:
what if muslim started supporting the idea of holocaust?
what if there is a annual celebration day for holocaust?
what if hilter is considered hero, and great political, an inspirational figure?
what if cartoons are made depicting hitler, humiliating jews?

You already do these things except the 2nd. And perhaps we need to start going all these 4 things to you? Has it ever occured to you that Non-Muslims have the same right to support genoicide on Muslims? We have the same right to have an annual celebration on all the Muslims who are murdered? Get real... all these things could be done against Muslims too. Has that never occured to you?


Gloria M   May 21st, 2010 8:28 am ET

"freedom of speech...??... Can people in the west make deny or make cartoons/ fun of the Holocaust?"

As much as making fun of slavery, Native American genocide, Bosnian ethnic cleansing.
Can I draw cartoons making fun of murdering Muslims where you live?

If you suggest that making fun of Jews is the only taboo I suggest you make some cartoons about black people being lynched and show it to your black friends


kommmie   May 21st, 2010 8:29 am ET

the west who call themselves liberal are in fact extremely extremists. they think mocking other religions, making nude and disgusting pictures of their prophet is something funny. ok, what if someone makes pictures of holocaust, making fun of jews, and praising hilter? that's also freedom of speech. so why do you cry then?
for you holocaust is big thing, for us our religion is a big thing. things like these only create differences, and promotes hate. there are some 3-6 million christens in pakistan, no one here defames jesus, or pope


Muhammad Drawer   May 21st, 2010 8:30 am ET

To answer your questions. Yes you can, and there are, pages that deny the Holocaust on FB. You can also make any amount of cartoons "Hailing Hitler". Just don't expect to be taken seriously, or as acceptable. In neither case will you be killed for it.


kommmie   May 21st, 2010 8:31 am ET

On 11 November 2005, the Austrian police in the southern state of Styria, acting under a 1989 warrant, arrested David Irving, (a historian who claimed the Holocaust was exaggerated). Four days later, he was charged by state prosecutors with the speech crime of "trivialising the Holocaust". His application for bail was ...denied on the grounds that he would flee or repeat the offence. He remained in jail awaiting trial. On 20 February 2006 Irving pleaded guilty to the charge of "trivialising, grossly playing down and denying the Holocaust".


kommmie   May 21st, 2010 8:32 am ET

Dear Muslims...

Its will be waste of time to argue with these people who have never been educated even on their own religion and now talking about Islam. Its is there strategy to take anger out of us. These are the people who abuse their own religion and their own prophets how can you expect them to Respect ours. We know what our Prophet is to us and we can tell them in a more better way rather than just giving explanations here.

Just pray that may Allah show them the right path


Asif   May 21st, 2010 8:33 am ET

To responder:

"Good, it may save some bandwidth. Now I can access Facebook faster."

yeah right.....use facebook and do what?? Spend your valuable time in something of no worth??? Only if you could use a little of this time for yourself. Comon, drain your mind and refill it with something cause worthy.


Saud   May 21st, 2010 8:34 am ET

People, whoever is talking against Muslims, Please study ISLAM not MUSLIMS!!!!! You will definitely figure out what Islam teaches and where muslims are standing!

Muslims are not perfect and are not following Islam properly as it should be.


demonfeed   May 21st, 2010 8:35 am ET

I say we have draw mohammed CENTURY. What happens when you do something the Islamists don't like? Death threats. Well, how about the next time they throw a death threat at us, we kill 200 of them? That sounds more than fair.


Hu   May 21st, 2010 8:39 am ET

Ever notice Muslims respond to everything my lamenting whether it is considered freedom of speech to encourage genocide against Jews?

I don't see them asking if it is okay to make fun of killing Muslims. Or encouaraging genocide against Muslims. Maybe we should do both these things since Muslims wont shut up about not enough encouraging genocide allowed. "Let's make fun of genocide against Jews Day"


Muhammad Drawer   May 21st, 2010 8:40 am ET

@Kommie. Yup, and if you read my original post "Make it illegal in your countries, like Holocaust defaming is in Germany." Austria also has this law. It isn't Illegal in most other western countries such as the US, England, Italy, and the Nordic countries.


Hu   May 21st, 2010 8:40 am ET

My last comment got cut off.
Instead of having "Let's make fun of genocide against Jews Day"
We should have "Let's make fun of genocide against Muslims Day"


Muhammad Drawer   May 21st, 2010 8:41 am ET

Oh, and in your example: He wasn't Killed for it.


Mary H   May 21st, 2010 8:45 am ET

Since Muslims are obsessed with the right to make fun of killing Jews, may I ask- do I have the right to praise and encourage genocide against Muslims in any Islamic country.

And to whoever posted that stuff about David Irving. It's not my business what the laws are in Austria. I don't agree with it.. but I agree with the laws about stoning women for adlultry even less


Asif   May 21st, 2010 8:47 am ET

All,

Lets live a peaceful life togather as a human first. This is what islam teaches. And whoever is following any religion or not following any, its their right because a child is born with no choice of selecting any religion, he is born just as a human being.

Its no ones mistake if he/she follows or doesnt follow a religion. if they are not good with humans, then its their mistake.


Mary H   May 21st, 2010 8:47 am ET

All Muslims do is complain about the lack of making fun of killing Jews. They never complain that making fun of or questioning slavery of lynching is sort of taboo and not done. Why doesn't this bother them to?


ken   May 21st, 2010 8:49 am ET

"Mohammed"

.......|||||||||||||||
......OOOOOO
...O .................O
...O ...O.....O...O
...O........T.......O
.....O....\__/...O
.........OOOO

Islam brought this on themselves.
If they had left us alone I would not have drawn this.


Texas Mom   May 21st, 2010 8:49 am ET

Dissapointed I didn't see my first post on here :( Wish people could have read it. Came straight from God and the Heart so I can't type it agian. Sorry if you missed it.


Asif   May 21st, 2010 8:58 am ET

Again to All,

Its our own mistake as muslims. Why use such websites? If we must use such websites, than we must have to have tolerance.

If we dont have tolerance (like in this case which is absolutely bad thing to happen), DONT USE IT. You cant stop everyone, so stop yourself.


Usman   May 21st, 2010 8:58 am ET

So.. let me get this straight.... if freedom of speech is the intention over here... then nobody will fuss if someone opens up a "Do you really believe Holocaust ever took place?" page of facebook???


Youssif A   May 21st, 2010 9:02 am ET

@Papagino you are not funny this is the second biggest riligion in the world you are making fun of a couple billion people and if you think that muslims dont respect jesus u need to shut up and stop because jesus is a prophet in islam as well and moses and ibrahim they are all prophets in islam and we muslims dont make fun of him we also think its wrong to show a picture of muhhamad (saaws) because no one knows what he looks like same resone u dont see muslims making a picture of jesus its beacuse we respect christianity as well as juddism and u dont see everyone making remarks like yours probably because ur still a child


Mahtab Hussain Soomro   May 21st, 2010 9:07 am ET

stop stupidity... Mohammad PBUH is Prophet of God.. y u non muslims jealous with Mohammad PBUH. this total universe is created by God coz of Mohammad PBUH. y all non muslims can know that what is Mohammad PBUH at the last day of the world QAYAMAT. just u stupid wait for that day... this is not far coming like fast bull... Alaaaaaaaas you r all stupid that u destroyed u r life after the last day.. u shall all be in hell... its God Promise.... just wait my dear... non muslims...

then we shall ask that how r u feeling now....


TG   May 21st, 2010 9:09 am ET

I believe it was draw Muhammad ALI day. You know, just like the Elvis stamp: do you want the skinny ALI or the fat ALI.......


Muhammad Drawer   May 21st, 2010 9:11 am ET

@ Usman. No Nobody will because there's already those pages: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=128416746883

We tolerate them. We think they're wackos, but we tolerate them too. What we won't tolerate is them killing, or them being killed, for those beliefs.


TG   May 21st, 2010 9:13 am ET

I didn't draw a picture of Mohammad, but I have some pictures we took together when we were at Disney..... Is that OK?


ilyas babar awan   May 21st, 2010 9:20 am ET

Nothing is importanat than our Holy Prophet Hazrat Muhammad Mustafa Sallah o alaihi wa'aalehi wassalam. I was a regular user of Facebook. i had a large number of friends from all over the world. i am a poet , so i had the contacts with many writers around the world. But nothing is important that the honor of my beloved Prophet Hazrat Muhammad Mustafa Sallah o alaihi wa'aalehi wassalam. I would not use FACEBOOK even the page is removed. I am very dissopointed with the administration of Facebook. I would love to sacrifice millions of lives for the honor of Holy Prophet Hazrat Muhammad Mustafa Sallah o alaihi wa'aalehi wassalam, as it is an integral part of our belief. I am proud of being Muslim. We dont tease others , we respect all the religions, we respect all the prophets.
Regards;
Ilyas babar awan
micropoet@gmail.com


Bharath   May 21st, 2010 9:24 am ET

This is a cheap trick by Facebook to counter "QUIT FACEBOOK DAY" May 31st.
Facebook is already strugling over its PRIVACY POLICY by its decision to sell users information to whoever they like and they have started this diabolical PR campaign to move the attention of USERS from the PRIVACY ISSUE.

In the name of freedom of speech you are hurting the feelings of Muslims.

I am sure nobody would dare start a page of "Holocaust Denying" or "Hailing Hitler". Why, there are laws created in many countries against that. Now, where is the freedom of speech?

FACEBOOK WILL GO DOWN THE SAME WAY AS MYSPACE DID.

************ QUIT FACEBOOK DAY MAY 31st ******************


reason   May 21st, 2010 9:24 am ET

Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha etc. It's nice to have imaginary friends once we let go of them maybe we will be able to live in peace.


Usman   May 21st, 2010 9:25 am ET

@Muhammad Drawer....
So you mean i can come to Europe or America and promote a hypothetical opinion (on a public forum) that holocaust never took place?... (Although I dont have such views).... and nothing will happen??... Religions are not intolerant.... people are!!!! Dont blame Islam.... blame the people who portray it in the wrong way.... I am a muslim... i know more about my religion than a non-muslim.... likewise...i dont claim to know more about other religions than the ones who actually follow it...just go through the comments posted on this page...u will see muslims overreacting.... but u will also see people with an anti-islam agenda....


Usman   May 21st, 2010 9:28 am ET

the message should be..."Love for All...and hatred for none"....


sal   May 21st, 2010 9:29 am ET

Kommmie ... you are right couldn't agree more, the one who can't respect their religion, can't respect ours .


Muhammad Drawer   May 21st, 2010 9:30 am ET

@Ilyas "I would love to sacrifice millions of lives for the honor of Holy Prophet Hazrat Muhammad" and "We dont tease others , we respect all the religions," are mutually elusive as there won't be any others if you kill them.

This is the point of the Protest.


JF   May 21st, 2010 9:31 am ET

I didn't draw him, but I posted a copy of the South Park depiction of him (from 2001) on my Facebook page, cause that's my right. If you want to cut my head off because you don't agree with me, who is really the one of peace?

Deal with it Islam, there are statues, portraits, paintings, murals, as well as billions of peoples ideas of the guy, who probably never existed anyway since you don't allow images to be shown, much like you don't like for women to show themselves yet they are beautiful. But you are too stupid to realize that if I can make myself respect another person's romantic interest and not try to take her away from you, then good luck being frustrated with your own byzantine religious formulas.


Adil   May 21st, 2010 9:33 am ET

Only one thing to ask all the CHRISTIANS and the JEWS here. IS THIS WHAT JESUS and MOSSES TAUGHT YOU? You people live in a morally disintegrated society of naked (free) people. Jesus and Mosses himself disowned you so God had to send the final messenger Muhammad (Peace be upon him), the most praiseworthy. He won't disown you. Even on the Day of Resurrection he will ask God to forgive you. He said "I have not been sent to curse people, but as a mercy to all mankind." People do your research and get your facts right!!


ilyas babar awan   May 21st, 2010 9:37 am ET

i read some where in the upper comments that christians wont mind the drawing of Jesus, but for their kind information, for Muslims all prophets are important and respecful . we dont draw even Christ. Its against our belief.
regards;
ilyas babar awan
islamabad
pakistan
micropoet@gmail.com


Texas Mom   May 21st, 2010 9:48 am ET

TO: ADIL
Talk about somebody doing there research and getting there facts straight. First of all JESUS is Gods ONLY son! I don't know why everyone is saying Jesus and Moses (one S not 2) but Moses just wrote the ten commandments that GOD himself told him to write and what to write. NEWAYS lets leave moses out cause he is not a God of any sort only GOD the one true GOd and Jesus his son. And everyone needs to stop calling allah god cause he is not a God there is only one GOd. I am sorry to break that to everyone and I am not pushing my beliefs like some people I am just stating the TRUTH.


ilyas babar awan   May 21st, 2010 9:50 am ET

@ Dawar..
dear i coud not get you, would u mind to eleborate a little...?


Khan   May 21st, 2010 9:52 am ET

I am only writting for the people who want to understand and have and ability to understand what I am saying... There is a BIG Dfference between Freedom of speech and DISRESPECTING ones you Respect the most and love the most.

I have a question: If there is a a page on facebook where anyone can make cartoons or funny pictures, ncluding all kinds of disrespecting pictures of YOUR FATHER OR MOTHER OR YOUR PROFESSOR?

WILL YOU STILL CALL IT FREEDM OF SPEECH. ITS THE START OF "FITNA" OR "FASAD" (MEANING TO SPREAD HATRED)

MAY ALLAH BLESS THE HEARTS AND MINDS TO UNDERSTAND.


ilyas babar awan   May 21st, 2010 9:56 am ET

to :Texas Mom
you are telling the truth.:)
iznt it amazing that your and our God is same....we dnt negate but u negate...our God is the the God of Adam , Moses, Noha , Abraham, Christ and Muhammad S.W.A.
this is an historical fact.


Bill NY   May 21st, 2010 9:57 am ET

I keep seeing a lot of posts that say Islam is a religion of peace, but I have not seen one shred of evidence to support this. I have yet to see all the "good Muslims" publicly denounce or help to stop terrorists. The only thing I see from Muslims is insensitivity with acts like building a mosque two blocks from ground zero where three thousand people were murdered by Muslims. You are either part of the solution or part of the problem. Until I see Mulims in this country doing something to prove otherwise they are part of the problem. This is supposed to be a country where we all respect the rights of others. followers of Islam could care less about the rights of the so called "infidels". If you think I'm wrong, please prove me to be wrong.


Muhammed Drawer too   May 21st, 2010 10:00 am ET

Murder is the Ultimate disrespect and Negation. When you call for murder you do worse than potentially blasphemy.


Ahmed   May 21st, 2010 10:02 am ET

@ Texas Mom
You believe that JESUS is God's son, but we muslims believe that Jesus and Mosses both are God's messenger and at the same time both are very respectable to us. The teachings of both messengers are same like our beloved Prophet Muhammad PBUH. No religion in this world teach to hurt other religion.


RWESTUPID   May 21st, 2010 10:02 am ET

ALL religions are hypocritical and rely on the ignorance of believers.
The only way to highlight this fact is to ridicule them. South Park has taken them all on and shown us how to laugh at their stupidity. I applaud Facebook for "draw moe day" and hope that someday the human race will evolve past all this religion nonsense.


Bharath   May 21st, 2010 10:06 am ET

This is a cheap trick by Facebook to counter "QUIT FACEBOOK DAY" May 31st.
Facebook is already strugling over its PRIVACY POLICY by its decision to sell users information to whoever they like and they have started this diabolical PR campaign to move the attention of USERS from the PRIVACY ISSUE.

In the name of freedom of speech you are hurting the feelings of Muslims.

I am sure nobody would dare start a page of "Holocaust Denying" or "Hailing Hitler". Why, there are laws created in many countries against that. Now, where is the freedom of speech?

FACEBOOK WILL GO DOWN THE SAME WAY AS MYSPACE DID.

************ QUIT FACEBOOK DAY MAY 31st ******************


J. Firsowitz   May 21st, 2010 10:07 am ET

So I assume Facebook will be perfectly fine with the creation of a "Everybody Draw the Holocaust Day" group too, right? Let's go ahead and test "freedom of speech" hypocrisy. The Europeans have made it illegal to question the Holocaust so clearly the whole "we're drawing Mohammed cartoons for the sake of free speech" argument is hogwash. It's hate speech, plain and simple, just like anti-semetic Nazi cartoons.


Alethia   May 21st, 2010 10:07 am ET

@Texas Mom:

I am a Christian also who has respect for all other religions, Islam included. I respect people who choose to have no religion.

Allah is the Arabic word for God used by all Muslims. Christians in the Middle East and South Asia use the word Allah for God. We in the English speaking world use the word God. And, for example, Spanish speaking people use the word Dios for God.

The 3 Abrahamic religions, Judaism, Christianity and Islam believe in one continuous, omnipresent God, though they have differing names for Him. Some call Him Yahweh, Jehovah, Allah, or God.

We, as Christians, believe Jesus Christ as the son of God. Jews And Muslims don't believe that part of Christian theology. Jews are still awaiting their Messiah, Muslims hold Jesus as a Holy Prophet on par with Mohammed, Moses, David, Jonah, etc.

Our three religions are intertwined...


Susan   May 21st, 2010 10:10 am ET

C.S. Lewis famous saying from "Mere Christianity" speaks to the whole concept of other religions "respecting Jesus": "A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic – on the level with a man who says he is a poached egg – or he would be the devil of hell. You must take your choice. Either this was, and is, the Son of God, or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us."


Ahmed   May 21st, 2010 10:16 am ET

@ Bill NY
If muslims are terrorist then what would u say about all this happening in IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN, PAKISTAN, PALESTINE. what would you say regarding the carpet bombing and drone attacks on families including senior citizens, children, womens ...


Alethia   May 21st, 2010 10:23 am ET

@ Khan:

God forbid it if this is a start to a "fitna", or separation, as you suugested. I would pray that this is the start of an "anjuman" or coalescing together, (I think it's right term from South Asia, is it?) of all people of goodwill.

I have condemned some of my fellow Americans for their barbaric behavior on this site.

Please note that there have been several Christians and Jews here coming to the defense of innocent Muslims.

I can only humbly pray that our example will show that there is a solidarity among Christians, Muslims and Jews and others (I noticed a person of Hindu orgin coming to Muslims' defense) who believe in tolerance and brotherhood/sisterhood of all people...


andre   May 21st, 2010 10:29 am ET

Religion was created to help and control people. It gave them
a bunch of rules to observe and try to keep the peace instead
of slaughtering each other. But with the good came the bad. Its
easy to make money off religion..its easy to direct individuals to
a cause using religion...And now today we have many different
religions, and each one of them has a savior...and its followers
truly believe their saviors is the one and his/her rules are the only
one that should be followed.
I dont put down any religion cause they do save a lot of people that
cannot think by themselves, but the answer should be the same for
all....Peace and Love......and not murder and threats.
Now, we wait to see how the Facebook event will unfold.


Sammuel   May 21st, 2010 10:35 am ET

All say this to all fellow americans that have have an issue with taking things a bit too far..
Freedom of speech? Freedom to offend? Freedom to instigate? Freedom to provoke?

It's funny how you all can hide your bigotry behind something like "Free speech". You guys are no better than the KKK and hitler. Your bigotry is just as obvious as both the klan and hitler...

You claim that you have freedom of speech and yet you generalize that ALL muslims need to be treated the same. I find it funny how you guys are all barking now, like you have in the past. Yet when something happens you end up crying "WHY US?? WHAT DID WE DO TO YOU!"

You understand first of all how things can escalate, they don't just escalate out of no where, yet you don't seem to care what the consequences are. Things happen, people do things for a laugh. People that cause trouble or hurt on others like they have in the past, it's not like they didn't get any warnings.. Yet when you still offend people like the bully the US has become.. One day someone is going to draw back when you've backed them into the corner and you keep harrassing them, you're going to get punched in the face. It's logical and it's realistic.


Puzzled   May 21st, 2010 10:36 am ET

So Ilyas; what about all those infidel instructions that book of yours has, HYPOCRITE ALERT! What about the threats of violence to millions for your prophet's honor,HYPOCRITE ALERT!! This is all about YOU .......YOUR hurt feelings.
Meanwhile; bunches of people think the ones who are drawing are an annoyance and think you are showing them the heart of your religion and are more disgusted by your homicidal bigotry.


Adil   May 21st, 2010 10:38 am ET

THE ISSUE HERE IS SIMPLE: Good Muslims, Christians and Jews V/S the Bad Muslims, Christians and Jews. Goodness will take over the evil that includes incitement of hatred in the form of "freedom of speech." The good guys in the end, with the help of God, will fix the followers of Satan, the Chief Deceiver, who encourages mischief-mongers to Just Do It :-)


Texas Mom   May 21st, 2010 10:38 am ET

Ok I see what yall are saying. I apparently need to follow up a little more on my other religions. As far as them being intertwined I dont' really know about that. I don't feel that religion is a bad thing like everyone is saying. What if you do die and face judgement and you never believed. Isn't it better to believe and be let down then to not believe and be let down? Thank you guys for your clarification on what the Muslim religion does believe. I did not know that Allah was God in there language and for that I am sorry if I got it confused or messed up. Thanks for the clarification. I will be studying it in the future though to see if we really do believe the same or not. Thanks


Franko   May 21st, 2010 10:40 am ET

        
 ▀ The Prophet with a good Prediction Record is Gerald Celente ▀
      ▀ War is Coming - Head for the Hills  ▀


Sunil   May 21st, 2010 10:40 am ET

Seriously,
Please people.. Lets get the minimum cense.. Dont get ingnorance...
PEACE AND LOVE... DONT BE FANATIC.. THINK.. USE UR CONCIENCE... RESPECT EACHOTHER FREEDOM.


xris   May 21st, 2010 10:43 am ET

GOD HATES ISLAM. GOD LOVES MUSLIMS. GOD HATES RELIGION – GOD LOVES PEOPLE.

POOR DEAD MUHAMED WHO DID NOT EVEN LIVE TO SEE FACEBOOK AND OBAMA. CRAZY PEOPLE who fight for the dead and hate the living.

Draw a picture of Jesus for He is the hope of the world.


Alethia   May 21st, 2010 10:43 am ET

Amen, Adil !


nashad   May 21st, 2010 10:52 am ET

If facebook and the group love peace then they should have asked to world to draw some other saint's sketch. At this time when muslims are anyway accuse west of being anti-muslim this was not the best idea. What else it could have sparked other than controversy; and it did – big time. It might go out of control. Then will you blame FB ? or whom


Nick   May 21st, 2010 10:58 am ET

Is saying the "F" word Free speech? why do we censor that?


Alethia   May 21st, 2010 10:59 am ET

I am an American Christian and have several friends from India (majority Hindu) and Pakistan (majority Muslim). It has been said that Hindus and Muslims don't get along well.

Well:
It is a very moving experience for me to see several people here who are apparently Hindu coming to the defense of innocent Muslims. I'm really happy...

God, in any form one believes in, does create miracles and reconciliations...


farhan   May 21st, 2010 10:59 am ET

People dont understand especially the west............its not the freedom of speech.........you cant do silly things under the lame excuse of "freedom of speech"............making fun of a specific religion especially ISLAM is becoming a habit of them day by day........bcoz these people cant bear the only true religion of the world.........so making fun of PROPHET(P.B.U.H) will give him no harm but whoever does it he will surely burn in hell......only wait for the time to come


Muhammad Drawer   May 21st, 2010 11:01 am ET

In a quick search I found no less than three FB groups that were anti Holocaust. That argument is invalid.

This is about free speech. You cannot have free speech without the freedom to offend. If you're offended, appropriate responses are: Legislate, Demonstrate, Counter-Demonstrate, Blog, Boycott, etc.

Not Murder.

Christian Example: When the extremist group Westboro Baptist Church demonstrates, the counter demonstration included a Biker gang who kept revving up their Harleys so that the Extremists couldn't be heard. They didn't kill them, but peacefully let them know that they won't tolerate the Intolerant. Where is the Muslim analogy?


farhan   May 21st, 2010 11:02 am ET

if u want to make groups than show them the real picture of Israel & America that what they are doing under the name of War on Terror....show them their real face


Bharath   May 21st, 2010 11:02 am ET

This is a cheap trick by Facebook to counter "QUIT FACEBOOK DAY" May 31st.
Facebook is already strugling over its PRIVACY POLICY by its decision to sell users information to whoever they like and they have started this diabolical PR campaign to move the attention of USERS from the PRIVACY ISSUE.

In the name of freedom of speech you are hurting the feelings of Muslims.

I am sure nobody would dare start a page of "Holocaust Denying" or "Hailing Hitler". Why, there are laws created in many countries against that. Now, where is the freedom of speech?

FACEBOOK WILL GO DOWN THE SAME WAY AS MYSPACE DID.

************ QUIT FACEBOOK DAY MAY 31st ******************
---------------------------–
************ QUIT FACEBOOK DAY MAY 31st ******************


bill   May 21st, 2010 11:06 am ET

I want to see one of Mohammed getting boned by a pig. For the most part that is what I think of muslims anyway.


Alethia   May 21st, 2010 11:09 am ET

Bill, you are an idiot...and boring also.


Franko   May 21st, 2010 11:12 am ET

  
  Buddhists, Christians, and Mohammedans are Humans
       Add Obamadans to the list ?


Frank Pendle   May 21st, 2010 11:16 am ET

as far as I'm concerned, "Draw Mohammed Day" is lke "Draw Jesus Day", "Draw Zeus Day" or "Draw Ahura Mazda Day". or "Draw Superman Day", for that matter.

all of these are just fairy tales, no matter how many people believe in them. and even if they aren't,

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

Muslims have the right to say that I can't draw Mohammed, and I have the right to draw him or anything else.


Puzzled   May 21st, 2010 11:16 am ET

By the way, all you condemning the people on Facebook should be made aware that the best way to get children to do something is to Forbid It! I would not be surprised if the drawings become a popular rebellion theme. Sort of like Kilroy Was Here. If I remember correctly; that one was rather persistent .
I would highly recommend that the people who are annoyed with the drawings should tone down their threats and prosthelytizing or it may have the effect of fanning the flames. After all people who live here and are acclimated to this culture have insight into the way society works here. Unless you want young people to take it as a dare...........


GCHouston   May 21st, 2010 11:18 am ET

Being offended is a choice.


IamABannana   May 21st, 2010 11:19 am ET

All religion is a disgrace to mankind.

Islamics kill people.
Christians do too.
In fact, like everyother religion, Christians have killed OVER 22 MILLION people for their imaginary God.

Don't be such a hypocrite Christians.
All religion does is provoke war, and get people killed.
It all needs to be abolished.

God isn't real.
Mohammed isn't real.
Jesus isn't real.
None of it is real.

There is absolutely NO proof.


bill   May 21st, 2010 11:21 am ET

Thank you but I am far from boring.....as for the idiot part well that is still up in the air. How can you defend the most violent religion in the world and pass on a great chance to make fun of them in public. tha tha tha thats all folks........


PW   May 21st, 2010 11:25 am ET

In a world with complete and uncensored freedom of speech as so many people have fought and died for, no one is sacred. Get over yourselves.


Alethia   May 21st, 2010 11:27 am ET

For those bigots out there who stereotype Muslims, let me give you a reminder that some our most accomplished Americans are Muslim:

Dr. Mehmet Oz – physician
Mohammed Ali – boxer
Neil Armstrong – first astronaut on the moon
Iman – fashion model
Kareem Abdul Jabbar- basketball player
Ice Cube-rapper
Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan – highly decorated soldier killed in Iraq
Zalmay Khalilzad-former American ambassador to the UN
Malcolm X- civil rights leader
Fareed Zacharia-head of Newsweek
Rima Fakih-miss USA 2010


Cherryl   May 21st, 2010 11:27 am ET

To "sadaat sethi" If you are going to comment on and American site, learn the language and take spelling in school or get off out site.


AJ   May 21st, 2010 11:28 am ET

@Mike "A lot of you suburb kids in Nowhereville.......etc"
Since I'm from Iraq and Muslim, I would like to personally give my opinion on this. That is one of the most funny comments I have ever read hahahahah. Mike, I'm sorry to inform you that in my religion the first rule is that women have to ride on the goat pens. It's just like baptism in Christianity, in Islam you make the woman ride on the goat pen and that's how she becomes a Muslim.You are such a smart guy and that's one of the reasons I believe that encouraged you to leave your high pay job and go serve in Iraq.


AJ   May 21st, 2010 11:29 am ET

Like seriously who cares about religion.. what a waste of life! muslims need to get a life if anything.. they are just too sensitive


Jennifer   May 21st, 2010 11:30 am ET

Freedom of Speech is a right for the American people and what little we believe in. It's main application is in the political arena...something we, the American people clearly don;t know much of. Whether the teachings of the Muslim world are of your liking or not, it is not tasteful to mock it. As much as none of us care much for Jesus, we would throw a fit if the Muslim world portrayed him upside down, and burned him. Stop being bullies.


Ryan   May 21st, 2010 11:31 am ET

Freedom of speech PERIOD!.. Islam get a life!


Molly   May 21st, 2010 11:38 am ET

I truly don't understand how so many people can be so ignorant about Islam. Where in the Quran can you point out that it says to beat your women or to bomb people who do not believe? Islam is not a violent religion, there are just some people who take it to the extreme. The Wahabists interpret their own meaning of the Quran and use it to kill people. They "modernize" the book in whatever way they see fit – NOT how it was written. Does that mean you blame EVERYONE for it? When the Christian Crusades were happening, did Christians who were not extreme try to stop it? The point is not about not drawing the Prophet (peace be upon him), but not making fun of him! If you take someone seriously and you believe in what they say, why would you make fun of them?
The point of the facebook page may have started about free speech, but it ended with hatred and mockery. I can't believe, as Americans, people can be so small minded and so culturally ignorant. Seriously? Telling people to learn our language or "get off out site"? Go to another country and speak to them in their language, see how good you are. You people are children, and your world view does not stretch farther than your neighborhood. Maybe if you talked to people from other countries, you'd realize that people of the Muslim faith are GOOD people and they are required to give back to the poor and help each other out.
I bet many of you believe women are "forced" to wear the hijab, too, right? Ask a woman wearing a Hijab if she wants to take it off, if she feels forced to wear it. She will proudly say she chooses to wear it and it is her decision, no one elses.

Please do America a favor and actually learn about the religion before you use a few extremists as the example for all!


DurkaDurkaJihad   May 21st, 2010 11:41 am ET

This facebook movement is about standing up to tyranny. There is no other religion out there that fuels fear like Islam. If you do not submit! OFF WITH YOUR HEAD! If you do not obey! OFF WITH YOUR HEAD! What!? You draw a picture of our most holy pedophile!? OFF WITH YOUR HEADS OMG BLOW MYSELF UP IN HATE AAAAH LEE LEE LEE LEE LEE!!!


rose   May 21st, 2010 11:43 am ET

To encourage people to draw the prophet Mohammed is immature. Of course I'm against killing someone for doing this but, come on people, why taunt Muslims and act like a bunch of bratty school kids? Grow up and show respect for others.


me   May 21st, 2010 11:44 am ET

Freedom of speech .can you call black ..... nigerrrrrrrrrroooooo


Jenn   May 21st, 2010 11:45 am ET

I'm curious as to how many people even noticed the page on fb. The first I heard of it was on the news and then forgot about it. When the South Park issue hit, I didn't blink an eye because it's South Park. They razz everyone. Come on... you're going to take seriously a program that had an episode centered around how many times they could say 's***'?

I'm an American, I'm a Christian, and I honestly just don't notice half of this anymore because it's the norm. Does that make it ok? I don't know. Understand that when disagreements arise, people will take personal offense. Since (especially in America) we don't all believe the same thing, things will get said and people will be offended. You deal with it and yeah, you learn to appreciate free speech.

Is the page offensive? I don't know because I don't really care. What I do care about is sadaat swearing on the comments board even as he claims we're being offensive. I think Gary said it best in that I don't ascribe to that belief set, so why do I have to follow it? Granted, going out of your way to offend someone is rude, but like I said, welcome to America. Someone else here made the comment about Americans, that we instigate on purpose. Yes, yes we do. And...?

I'm proud of my freedom of speech, even if it means that it protects the KKK and the Tea-partiers. Because it also protects me. So say on extremists of any religion – you're protected as am I. But honestly, I just can't bring myself to care about the ridicule. Here... how about the other cheek now?


Laszlo Bense   May 21st, 2010 11:49 am ET

I think there are several misunderstandings.
Censorship is a human act and against freedom. Not God of any religion but humans made censorship.

Freedom of speech is OK but only in a polite way.
this is not known, recognized by subintelligent journalists, politicians.
It is permitted to say that anyone is criminal if it is true, but it must be stated in a correct, polite way. otherwise we are criminal.

The case with the religion, faith is another matter. No one has seen any God to do something hostile against anyone. It is an improper irradiation of an opinion from a person or a group of individuals to their God. It is respectles to state anything wrong from ones faith.

May I remind you that the jews in extermination camps the II World War concluded that God is guilty to let them perish. It was not a statement in an impolite, slandering way; but after that they prayed for forgiveness for their conclusion. This behavior is to be learned.

Show the respect to everyone equally.
Therefore I consider the challenge of facebook to draw Mohammed against the faith of millions, improper, unpolite, subintelligent and arrogant. Israel destructed in an inhuman way children and women in Gaza, but no one depicted Jahve as a war criminal. Should one try? Would the jews be happy by this offence? No. and they were right in this matter.
Sincerely

LB


Crusader Mike   May 21st, 2010 11:50 am ET

@Molly

Do more research on what it means to be a Christian. The crusade was sponsored by the Pope and his Catholic Empire. A crusade for land, wealth and power. It had nothing to do with Christ. Oh yeah one more thing, I am also saying Catholics are not Christians. They (the Pope and his posse of Cardinals) hide behind the cross for their own gains of mesmerizing the ignorant and obtaining more wealth and power. While pope and eucarist worship is always encouraged. OR they hail Mary and pray to 'her' for intercession. While Christ said that no one comes to the Father but through him. He and the Father are ONE. So stop praying to Mary, she was a blessed lady, but nothing more. Not a deity just a special lady. Follow Christ if you want to be a Christian.

Jesus promotes peace, read up on his teachings.


Bharath   May 21st, 2010 12:00 pm ET

This is a cheap trick by Facebook to counter "QUIT FACEBOOK DAY" May 31st.
Facebook is already strugling over its PRIVACY POLICY by its decision to sell users information to whoever they like and they have started this diabolical PR campaign to move the attention of USERS from the PRIVACY ISSUE.

In the name of freedom of speech you are hurting the feelings of Muslims.

I am sure nobody would dare start a page of "Holocaust Denying" or "Hailing Hitler". Why, there are laws created in many countries against that. Now, where is the freedom of speech?

FACEBOOK WILL GO DOWN THE SAME WAY AS MYSPACE DID.

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Texas Mom   May 21st, 2010 12:03 pm ET

Bharath
Can you please stop posting the same thing over and over?


ali   May 21st, 2010 12:07 pm ET

i would like to say that American people talk about civilization every time and they say that we are civilize people .so i want to ask that is this a civilize action to make a fun of muslim,s prophet(s a w).


Nadeem   May 21st, 2010 12:08 pm ET

well – As the christianity, Islam and Jewsim is concerns, All of these religions has the same routs.. Our belives are differnet, Our prophets are differnt. The Problems rises at the point, We respect (Being Muslim) Christ, Moses and all the other prophets, But our ultimate and last prophet is Holy Prophet Muhammad PBUH.

We can not make fun of other prophets too as it is also the part of our belive to have faith on the other prophets too. But propblem is this some of the other religions don't respect our Prophet. And try to make fun of Him... Well freedom of speech is not the way that you make fun of some other or try to HURT the feelings of the other religions.

Freedom of Speech is somthing that is related to the way where you see the things that are impacting your rights, or anywhere you are getting influenced by something. So speak to your right with proper argument. making fun or Hurting other feelings can never be termed as the FREEDOM OF SPEECH. This is a simple conspiracy to make people voilated and create the atmosphere of voilence and hate.

As the cartoon Making is concern: Our religion does not allow to make cartoons or statues of anything even God. So as per our religion it is really like worshiping IDOLS... As we have been given proper practices to perform our religious worship. While Some of the other religions has made this practice to make pictures and stuff of the prophets, so they thing it may not impact us. But it make impact on us. So We request and always ask for favour to avoid this behavior as it is a direct attack to our believes, feelings and all the stuff...

I know Muslim has been notoroius in the world due to some So called Muslim – "We dont consider him a Muslim who even kill a single innocent life". But it is not to take like this to consider all Muslim on the same eye... every Society and relegion has the good and bad people. But it shouldn't be like to voilate other rules, feelings and respect. Thanks and please take this comment positively. We should respect all the other religions thats the way other will respect ours...


Miles   May 21st, 2010 12:09 pm ET

@farhan "so making fun of PROPHET(P.B.U.H) will give him no harm but whoever does it he will surely burn in hell......only wait for the time to come" – Dude, go hug your father, learn to love people, and find a better faith.


Miles   May 21st, 2010 12:11 pm ET

@IamABanana
"God isn't real.
Mohammed isn't real.
Jesus isn't real.
None of it is real. "

All this from a guy named IamABanana. Perfect.


Not sure what to say   May 21st, 2010 12:12 pm ET

OK, I am not Muslim and do not believe a drawing a picture can create idol worship, so why would I not be able to do it again? I thought that this was suppose to be about personal religious beliefs. If I do not believe it, I will not worship it regardless if I see a picture of it. If you believe that seeing a picture will lead to you coveting that picture and idolizing it, then do not look at the picture. It's pretty simple really.


Nadeem   May 21st, 2010 12:12 pm ET

@Miles – Good Miles.... But we should make people aware of this stuff why we hate this.


Eye Opener   May 21st, 2010 12:13 pm ET

AMERICAN FREEDOM OF SPEECH and EXPRESSION ELABORATED:

1) Freedom from God, enslavement of Satan
2) Get wasted
3) Get naked
4) Get laid
5) Cheat on spouse
6) Abuse parents
7) Ridicule Jesus, Muhammad and Mosses
and the mother of it all:
8) Don't judge HAHAHA

English and Australians have much more values for sure!!!


Muhammad Naser ul Allah   May 21st, 2010 12:13 pm ET

i think that they have known muslims are on the right path and christians are astray because they have no confirmation about their own religion and barking about our precious PROPHET MUHAMMAD [S.A.W]on the other hand some i read some muslims comments and it is very click my mind that they are non muslim because muslims can not compromise on their PROPHET and RELIGION.
YOu are asking that muslims are killing your peoples it is not true because i think you are fully forgetting what's going on the muslims countries{Pahalistian,chachnia ,serbia,kashmir,Iraq,Afghanistan,Sudan and many more] yes you are right muslims are attacking on you in these countries,BUT tell me one thing why your army are in these countries what's they do the muslims countries.i think that i would to tell about your history that what says the HITLER.He said that
" i left some jewish and christians that the next generation knew that why i killed them"
IF you know more your history you contact me or write your questions on http://www.formspring.me/HeartedMuslim i will answered you there.I am waiting.


Molly   May 21st, 2010 12:15 pm ET

@Crusader Mike Jesus promoted peace the same way Muhammad (PBUH) did. I am discussing why people are saying it is a religion that promotes killing and destruction when it does not. Seach for "Mary in the Qur'an" and you'll see that Mary is mentioned in the Quran more than even the New Testament.


Khaled Is An Idiot   May 21st, 2010 12:15 pm ET

Hey, Khaled Bebo: you're an idiot. Christians don't worship idols. I assume you are refering to Icons in your ignorant ramblings. If you managed to get educated in other religions (including Christianity) from source other than that pedophile founder of your religion, you'd understand the purpose icons. Don't comment on a religion you clearly don't understand.


ad   May 21st, 2010 12:16 pm ET

i can only say that the third world war is right on the corner.


Brenda   May 21st, 2010 12:19 pm ET

So called Christians have been killing people in the name of God since about 300 years after Christ died. Every war fought has brought out the clergy endorsing the slaughter of millions. Have you forgotten the inquisition, the crusades, the genocide of millions of Jews in Germany where every so called Christian religion save one, went along with Hitler.
Yet Jesus Christ said his followers would lay down their swords and follow in his footsteps. Have any of you read his words lately.
DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU


Miles   May 21st, 2010 12:22 pm ET

@Alethia – IceCube ???? HA!! You can keep him! So interesting you tout him as an "accomplished muslim" when he is someone who has been criticized for writing music promoting violence against police. Freedom of speech seems to be ok with Muslims as long as it's About killing people. Go figure.


D   May 21st, 2010 12:26 pm ET

With a wimpy remark like their spokesman gave, betcha Facebook caves and removes the page...anyone want to wager?


Not sure what to say   May 21st, 2010 12:27 pm ET

So in Buddhism they create beautiful works of art of....get this, Buddha! They are one of, if not THE most peaceful religions in the world. No one idolizes the statues, they idolize the belief.


Miles   May 21st, 2010 12:29 pm ET

@D – they wont. That would be very uncharacteristic of the CEO to do that. It'll stay. I'll bet you a nickle.


Jay   May 21st, 2010 12:36 pm ET

If I want to bash Islam,it's my right so screw you ya frickin muslims. You can't fly planes into our buldings killing innocent, UNARMED people and expect anything less than for me to say "Go to hell!"


Jesus Christ   May 21st, 2010 12:38 pm ET

I wonder why Christians skip the part in the bible where Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is so clearly prophesized. Google or Youtube Yusuf Estes, a former priest and he'll explain!


john   May 21st, 2010 12:39 pm ET

jasonk you are an idoit


Not   May 21st, 2010 12:39 pm ET

why you such people leave that topic, this give you any benefit from interfering the religion which you people don't know,


bill   May 21st, 2010 12:44 pm ET

The Muslim religion has no place in America history until 2001 when you dropped our towers hit the Pentagon and tore up a field. That is when you all finally became part of American history. This Country was founded one nation under GOD not one nation under whatever you choose. So stay in your caves and hide for all I care. To me that will always be the Muslim religion. They do these acts in the name of Mo..............dont even have enough respect for it to spell the full name


Equality   May 21st, 2010 12:47 pm ET

What's with people drawing what they think he looks like? People draw Jesus and other religious icons. Ever heard of a group besides muslims killing people for drawing their god? I can understand the crude ones meant to be offensive, but the ones that depict a person/Muhammad (PBUH) should be fine right? If the guy (that noone has ever seen or even knows what looks like) promotes peace, why are there so many death threats. Either follow him or don't. Make up your mind. And as far as things go, i could post a pic of myself and say that I am Muhammad. How would anyone know the difference?


abdul aziz khan   May 21st, 2010 12:49 pm ET

Bismillah
We Muslims believe that its wrong to draw picture of PROPHETS. nobody has a right to draw picture of any PROPHET MUHAMMAD, JESUS, MOOSA, IBRAHIM. we will fight if any body dares to draw picture of any of the PROPHET. i feel ashame of all nations chritianity, jews that they are not capable to raise voise against this act. we muslim belive in all PROPHETS.
this is all raised by bloody jews, who wants to raise this beutiful slogan of Right o Expression. what happen to them when holocast is discussed with all its truth.
I invite every human in this world to embrace ISLAM for their SALVATION. this activity is to check the remaining potential of MUSLIMS around the world. Pakistan a dependent, weak country has banned these then what US and antiIslam elements think about the whole muslim nation
ALLAH O AKBAR