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June 11, 2008

Breaking News: Tornado slams into Boy Scout Camp

Posted: 11:30 PM ET

From CNN Meteorologist Chad Myers:

Tornadoes touched down tonight in 4 states MN, IA, NE and KS.  So far, 35 separates reports of tornado damage have been reported.  The most serious touched down north of Little Sioux, Iowa.  A boy scout camp was hit as 93 boy scouts and 25 leaders took cover from the storm.  Officials say 30-40 were injured and 4 were killed.  This was a large tornado hidden in the rain.  Warnings were issued for the storm in time, but the camp is in a very rural area. Storms will continue throughout the night.

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Franko   June 12th, 2008 5:41 am ET

I was a Boy Scout, and the Scout leader was responsible for all.
But how to prepare for such a catastrophe ?


S Callahan   June 12th, 2008 8:28 pm ET

I'm so sorry for the families that lost their loved ones..1Thess.4:13,14
For those that survived, may God's grace be upon you for a speedy healing. Know that those of us who pray in this nation, are praying for you and many others in crisis right now. For those that have allowed fear to take over them..always remember Let nothing disturb you, let nothing frighten you, everything passes away except God. God alone is sufficent.


William Ricks   June 13th, 2008 1:57 am ET

This is happeing because of global warming the media can play it down if they want but this is definetly the reason why the weather has been the way it is and each year it will continue to get worse and worse but you dont have to take my word for it what do i know. I will say this when it does get worse and reat assured it will i will say this I TOLD YOU SO


John   June 13th, 2008 3:49 pm ET

Global warming? Thats the most ignorant thing ive ever heard. Global warming causing tornado's that kill 4 scouts? Next people will be blaiming forclosures on global warming...give me a break. I hate to break it to you, but global warming is a natural process of the earth. Believe it or not...this isnt the first time its happened and it wont be the last. Even if the earth didnt heat up because of greenhouse gases you still get the same result in the end...ice age.

This was nothing more than a freak accident caused by bad weather and being in the wrong place at the right time. The end.


Darren Gates, TUFaT.com   June 13th, 2008 4:54 pm ET

This message is for "S Callahan"... praying to an invisible, imaginary deity will get you nowhere. Posts like yours are what motivate parents to pray for their diabetic children instead of seeking medical attention. Or praying for rain instead of looking for ways to conserve water. And so on.

Praying for a non-existent deity to help is the same as doing nothing at all. What we need to do is invest in science. Better tornado warning systems, better meteorology, better predictive methods will prevent catastrophes like this one. Deluding ourselves with mythology will not.


s callahan   June 13th, 2008 5:32 pm ET

I tend to agree with John..this is really nature at it's worst...at least in regard to the tornadoes and flooding...but the China earthquake I hold other thoughts on.....


s callahan   June 14th, 2008 12:04 am ET

Darren, not meant to offend you..just as you hold your views i hold mine. And i don't agree with you on the thought that prayer like mine encourages parents not to seek medical care...in my faith we fully utilize medical care....respect science (with some disagreement but understanding as no one realy has all the knowlege)....That prayer was for comfort and for lots of people it is. This 'deity' you speak of for me is VERY REAL and exists ..alive and well. There is no reason science and religion can't coincide together....it has for years....many scientists will agree (and some have much more logical arguments for faith than some of the greatest theologians). Keep it simple, Ask the meterologist's in Iowa right now why they are so perplexed with the flooding...they may give you a view you'd be surprised by.
Happy Day to you.


MB   June 14th, 2008 12:23 am ET

I know that the Boy Scouts refuse to allow gays and atheists to join their ranks. I wonder if there was a closet gay or atheist there, and this was God's way of striking him down.


Franko   June 14th, 2008 2:12 am ET

"This is happening because of global warming"

Actually, only slight surface cooling, however the Stratosphere has cooled more. The difference of temperatures is greater. Therefore, more power to the weather heat engine. http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/gatemaster99/stratosphere.png

ScoutMasters teach "be prepared".
Was an oversight to neglect this danger.


Christian   June 22nd, 2008 3:58 am ET

I wonder if the guys here saying that global warming does not cause more tornados are scientists. Here is one of many articles (this one from NASA) predicting that Global Warming Will Bring Violent Storms And Tornadoes: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070830105911.htm


Steve Beckman   June 23rd, 2008 2:18 pm ET

This just crushed me. Those brave scouts handled the situation like real troopers. http://www.cbdistro.com and http://www.lawlorscustom.com are two fine organizations our there with fundraisers for the families. Cbdistro's will run through August 2008. They could really use the help in getting the word out.


Franko   June 24th, 2008 12:33 am ET

"global warming does not cause more tornados are scientists"

Stratosphere (high) cools while the Troposphere (low) warms. Heat engine efficiency is (T2-T1). Greater the difference, more power. Convection proportional to T^4, So small rise in surface T can result in violent correction

Per Freeman Dyson, meaningless to talk about global average surface temperature, since insufficient stations. (Weather is a local effect)

NASA climate reputation; "I would answer that it is a big scale organized crime." They supressed Ferenc Miskolczi, who provided more accurate theory.


Al Whiteing   August 21st, 2008 10:10 pm ET

To MB. How dare you say that. Yes we keep those kind out to protect our boys. But to say this was God's punishment is as stupid as you seem to be. Those boys that died were decent Scouts, and the ones that survived are heros. Our Town's (Dunlap) EMTs that responded were impressed by the triage these boys did for each other, and when a path was cleared to get to these boys, they had the injured ready to go – worst cases first, etc. Two boys dug the Park Ranger, wife, and baby from their collaspe house. Maybe you are the kind we need to keep out.


Al Whiteing   August 21st, 2008 10:18 pm ET

To the rest of you. I know for fact that the Scout Leaders did not neglect this storm. These boys had drills the day before for such an event. Who knew it would come so soon. Before anyone starts pointing fingers, search the news for the truth. It was out there. I am an Asst. Scoutmaster of Troop 50 of this District, so I know what they went thru.


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