Adobe to unveil updated software line

I hope it works just as well as it is described, although with Adobe they thoroughly test the product and we are rarely left with major problems. Can't wait!

Most Apple products do support Flash, just not the iPad, iPhone and iPod touch.

How much?

Adope? Seriously?

I love Adobe products, but they truly price gouge every time they upgrade anything.

Apple doesn't support Flash on some of it's mobile products ... ?

Imagine what would happen if Adobe stopped supporting *all* Apple products (No more industry leading applications, no or limited access to a huge collection of web content). Trust that is it Apple who are playing games with their customers and other industry leaders, and the games they play are dangerous ones.

I know it was already posted, but really- do a spell check... "Adope"

Gouging...especially for those of us who are CS4 owners. I already checked out the Adobe website to see what it was going to cost to upgrade. Since most people didn't upgrade to CS4 like I did, those folks get a big price break. The upgrade to CS5 from CS3 is about $800. For those of us who forked over about $600 or so for the upgrade from CS3 to CS4, the upgrade to CS5 is a whopping $600...sort of feel like I got screwed by Adobe for being willing to upgrade to CS4.

And, if you upgraded to CS4 in the last 30 days, the CS5 is apparently going to be a free upgrade.

Hey Adobe...great way to treat your loyal customers.

I just saw the CS5 presentation and apart from a few bells and whistles, I don't see the point. CS3 is serving me well. Guess I'll wait for CS6 and see what happens with Flash and Dreamweaver vs Apple

John Sutter needs to spell check prior to posting, as well as re-edit the article to specify that_some_Apple products don't support flash rather than a general "because Apple products don't support it".

In regards to Adobe releasing the new version, that's superb but I just upgraded to CS4 last year so my licensing budget won't see an upgrade for some time.

@J Green – Adobe would never be able to stop "supporting" Apple products. They would end their own business. Apple not supporting Flash technology is in favor to Apple seeing/believing their chosen path of HTML5 will be the successor. Agree or disagree, it's the way they're conducting business. Adobe needs to stop getting moody about it like an ex girlfriend, and find a new way to stay market relevant in terms of HTML5 v Flash.

Flash is quickly becoming useless for development. So many other programs that do it better and cheaper.

The Adobe Apple feud seems like it is heating up

http://www.sency.com/adobe-apple.htm

Get someone to edit the article, someone who isn't a moron.

That said, I do feel a little screwed by Adobe on the pricing. I have CS4 Design Premium. I want to upgrade to the Master Suite. Great. But why do I have to pay the same as someone who has CS2 Design STANDARD?

It looks like the Apple vesus Adobe slugfest is now fully underway. Apple's change in app development regs (just announced a couple of days ago) forbids the creation of iPhone / iPad applications using such non-standard tools as Flash.

Meanwhile, Adobe in its big online CS5 introduction today tells viewers that they can now create Flash-based apps for the iPhone and the iPad.

While Flash is popular on the web, it is a crashy, resource-hungry method of creating content and it opens the floodgates for apps that completely ignore the standard interface.If Apple were to let developers program in Flash, it would be just like the anything-goes days on the PC in the early 1990's when people would create Windows applications that completely ignored interface guidelines. You never knew what an identical button or menu item would do from one application to another. It was a huge mess and if it were not for Microsoft putting its foot down, using a PC would have been confusing and hair-pulling experience that would have had millions of people searching for a better computing platform.

The level of determination and the massive investments of Apple and Adobe in their conflicting technologies will surely have a big impact. Who knows what that impact will be, but the two companies need to work this out. Can Adobe come up with a tool that translates Flash code into a more standard format? Let's hope so.

Adobe: Killing the graphic design and graphic artist trades by turning simple people into crappy designers. Thanks Adobe! And with a NEW upgrade every six months, no one can really keep up.

lol@Adope

When someone uses language that implies a definite fact without stating it outright, they're using weasel words. If you're writing a news story, and want to insert your own opinion, you simply attribute the opinion to some unnamed person or group. Such as "somewhat":

"somewhat in jeopardy because Apple products don't support it."

I just wanted to comment that I find this type of reporting to be misleading and it smacks of an agenda to me. The job of the media is to report on popular opinion; not create it.

How do I get a job covering technology for CNN? I know how to spell check and proof read-something John Sutter is seems unable to do. I also know that Apple does support Flash on all their hardware except their mobile devices (iphone, touch, and ipad). It's very disappointing to see such poor quality journalism from CNN.

@Mauro

>>I just saw the CS5 presentation and apart from a few bells and whistles, >>I don't see the point.

I've read that Adope (lol) CS5 will utilize expanded ram better. If it does the speed increases could be quite nice.

Will Adobe make their new suite AFFORDABLE for their largest client base: starving artists?

Apple's share of the smartphone market in the U.S. stands around 25% while RIM's Blackberry enjoys a 42% share. Apple drops to 14% outside the U.S., while RIM drops to 21%. Nokia enjoys 40% of the world smartphone market.

In the world PC market, Appple sits at less than 10% penetration, and stands in 5'th place. This market is owned by Windows, which enjoys 90% market penetration. Windows 7 alone has better PC market penetration than does all of Apple.

I seriously doubt Jobs' bitterness toward Adobe, and Apple's decision to not support Flash will spell doom for Adobe or Flash. Apple will lose sales to people who aren't lovestruck fanbois. If its users grow tired of holes in pages where Flash should be, Apple may be compelled to deal with it. Apple's market share is just not big enough to dictate terms. Jobs is just too big for his breeches.

$699. guess I won't get it

@ allhaileris
Marketshare from other hansetmakers are bloated. Apple makes ONE phone... 1 phone. Everyone seems to overlook that fact. Others have a gazillion different phones. It's not surprising they have a bigger marketshare. Apple's marketshare is impressive considering they make ONE phone.

Windows will always have a larger marketshare because it is an OS shared by pretty much all PC makers. OS X is a Mac only system. If Apple licensed OS X to everyone, then... they may even surpass Windows marketshare. But then again, we'll never know coz Apple will never license OS X.

This article was probably written by the same guy who "reviewed" the Starcraft 2 Beta and chided it for not being fully completed.

"How do I get a job covering technology for CNN? I know how to spell check and proof read-something John Sutter is seems unable to do."

John Sutter IS SEEMS?

Sorry buddy! I had to point this out when you were so harsh.

@ John F: "...if it were not for Microsoft putting its foot down, using a PC would have been confusing and hair-pulling experience that would have had millions of people searching for a better computing platform..."

Wait, are you trying to imply that it *isn't*??? LOL!!!

Flash? Somewhat in jeopardy? What in the WORLD are you talking about? It's still the most popular multimedia format on the web, whether Apple likes it or not. Stop predicting doom and gloom when there is still no evidence it isn't going to continue making Adobe millions.

Isn't it funny, these updates don't seem to be make better designers but rather more designer wannabe's. The graphic design/multimedia community is being littered with a mix of individuals who thinks aesthetics is a disease and or have with zero creative vision all so Adobe can sell bells and whistles. A really good graphic designer can probably accomplish most of what they need with CS2, but hey every one wants a new version of everything. But think about how the whole graphic design/multimedia mindset is being greatly defined by one company and the message its seems to be sending. Buy me and you'd become a graphic designer. I wonder when someone will create such a program for doctors.

Who or what is "Adope" in the second sentence. Put a space in there and you have your answer!

Mac does not support Flash for it's iPhones or iPad. THEY DO support HTML5 which will do away with the need for Flash on web sites. This has been publicized A LOT, but not when it comes to articles like this.

Touch-driven devices (like the iPhone/iPad/iPod), cannot support Flash as there is no cursor. The Flash scripting model assumes a cursor and mouse buttons – think about all rollover actions in Flash apps, and context-sensitive menus.
None of those events are present in real touch devices, so no Flash.

Living in Brazil I look forward to the fact that CS5 will be able to highlight and remove such things as power lines.
I will soon be able to see my new country without the view being obstructed by powerlines.
Thank you ADOBE.

I will stick with CS4, it works fine for me, I love it, and I learn more about it each day...I will never fork over THAT MUCH CASH just to make some things that you can ALREADY do on CS4 a little bit easier.

Its things like this that started Pirating and Torrents.

It's nice to see them put out something. They have waited so long to make Flash available for the new Android OS on mobile phones. Oh....I forgot this new Suite makes them more money! Go figure.

What about something basic like 64 bit technology, they have not developed a good Flash Player...they have not shown support for computers who have this type of tech on their computers...etc...

Apart from Dreamweaver and After Effects, The new CS5 version of Photoshop extended is awesome, especially the Content Awareness tool, the best photoshop version yet !

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I love adobe's new subscription based services! I'm also a fan of Photoshop! Adobe turned out a great product.